This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program originally airing on June 29, 2023.  To listen to the program, please click HERE.

Sam Rohrer:       Well, hello and welcome to our monthly creation and apologetics update here on Stand In the Gap Today. And if you’re like me, you’re no doubt observing the news generally, or specifically perhaps you’ve caught some of these recent congressional whistleblower testimonies on the congressional website and what they’ve been talking about on UFOs, right? You recognize that. You may conclude, if you’ve watched any, that there is an increase in the amount of media coverage being given to the broader theme of UFOs and alien life. It’s been happening for a number of years, picked up here recently, I think. But with what appears to be an increased presentation of some would say previously suppressed data, the showcasing of various people’s observations and thoughts, the increasing focus of movies and TV series has been really for a long time, but all built around the extraterrestrial.

Anything which makes inroads into cultural, political, and a governmental discussion, I believe makes it to the level where it becomes important for Christians and those committed to the truth to carefully consider, at least to be aware of what is going on. And that’s what I’d like to do today on this program with returning guest Rob Webb, writer, speaker, and co-host of Answers News for Answers in Genesis. But Rob previously worked with NASA and NASA aerospace engineering area with a concentration in astrodynamics and satellite navigation, where he focused much of his time there in guidance, navigation, and the control department. And as such was in that area where he was involved in a number of different interplanetary programs.

And I think because of that, Rob’s got a disciplinary approach and experiential knowledge on this whole subject, which makes him a good guest here today as we talk about what is happening in this area of UFOs and alien life. Now, we’re going to consider today, for instance, some things like why there seems to be such an interest in the developing this discussion in this area, including frankly among many churchgoers. And another one was what those who believe in the authority of scripture should think about this increasing phenomenon. And then we’re going to conclude with how best to respond to it and anchor our thinking. So the title I’ve chosen for today’s program is this Responding Biblically to the Increasing Alien Narrative. And with that introduction, let me welcome in right now, Rob Webb, writer, speaker, and co-host of Answers News for Answers in Genesis. Rob, thanks for being back today.

Rob Webb:          Yeah, thanks for having me again.

Sam Rohrer:       Rob, in the next segment, in the next segment we’re going to get into the why, that part of it, why there is such an interest in so many people seeming to seek out other life or life forms. Whether it’s intelligent life or that they want to be able to converse with, or some cases just some evidence of the potential for some kind of sustenance of life somewhere out in the galaxy. But for now, if we could, let’s define, let’s start by doing this, define what is generally meant by alien or alien life form or extraterrestrial or any similar term that might be used to describe some type of life other than human life. What would you say?

Rob Webb:          Yeah, so typically today when people say aliens, they’re not talking about people from another country like Canadians or Mexicans. Usually what they mean is extraterrestrial. That’s usually what they mean. They mean other advanced civilizations out there somewhere in the galaxy or the universe without there colonizing all these other worlds. That’s typically what they mean. Obviously, you were kind of mentioning before, it’s a very hot topic in our culture today. It’s been really pushed, especially by Hollywood with all the TV shows, the movies, Star Trek, Star Wars, you name it, even X-Files TV series, the famous model. The truth is out there. But it’s not just sci-fi either.

I mean, there’s a lot of secular scientists. I was in the NASA industry for about 10 years and almost the entire industry, I mean they are just obsessed with this question. They’re desperately searching for life out there in outer space. There’s even a field called astrobiology, which cracks me up. It’s the only college science degree. You can even get a master’s and a PhD at some colleges with no actual evidence or data. We haven’t found any life out there yet. You can still get a degree in astrobiology. Plus, I mean, you just think about all the projects out there, like SETI for example, the search for extra threshold intelligence, very popular over the years where essentially they’re constantly scanning the heavens with these powerful radio telescopes, trying to listen for these signals from any intelligent aliens. And in fact, I mean, there’s millions upon millions of dollars being poured into this for the research and even with all the programs. And so-

Sam Rohrer:       Okay, Rob, okay, let me just step in on this. So what you’re saying in the next segment, I want you to go further into that why so much is being done because you’re already demonstrating when you spend millions and billions of dollars, there’s some motivation. So we’ll talk about that. But you defined it basically anything that’s not human, some other area in the galaxy that they’re talking about here. But from an Answers in Genesis’ perspective, APN perspective here, Stand in the Gap Radio and TV, we both, all of us emphasize the reality of a person’s worldview when it comes to approaching all of life. But here’s my question that starts up. From a person’s observational perspective or even a scientist exploratory perspective, I’d like to hear from you how understanding and applying a God’s word centered worldview should direct how a person approaches such things as aliens or UFOs or frankly anything perhaps that sits outside the regularly observable. How should that be fundamentally directing how we approach those things that we just don’t really know?

Rob Webb:          Yeah, so I mean it’s clear as Christians, we have to make sure we’re always examining all ideas in light of scripture. Take every thought cap through the obedience of Christ, make sure that we’re always building all of our thinking on God’s word. Of course, the Bible doesn’t talk directly about aliens, so you won’t be able to find a chapter in there, talks directly about it. And of course, Genesis 1 doesn’t mention the day of creation in which life on other planets were created. On the contrary, actually the Bible says that God designed the earth as very unique for us to inhabit, which is very contrary to what the evolutionary world he says.

And just a real quick 30-second answer here, if you were to just look at it theologically as well, the whole concept of aliens just really doesn’t work. You think about the redemption of mankind, who was Jesus? What did He do on this earth? He came down as the God man. He was fully God, he was fully man. He wasn’t the God Wookie or the God Klingon or anything like that. So obviously these intelligent aliens, they can’t be redeemed from the curse. Going back to Genesis 3, so you always think about is this planet’s salvation applicable to extra thresholds, human-like alien races? Do they have a soul? Where are they going when they die? Even Romans 8 makes it clear that all of creation suffers not just mankind. So in other words, if aliens did exist, they would still suffer under the bondage of corruption, yet they cannot be saved because they’re not descendants of Adam. So you see a lot of theological problems even with just the whole idea of having aliens out there.

Sam Rohrer:       In fact, it does, and that’s great. You did a great job in just a few seconds there, Rob. But ladies and gentlemen, we’re talking about a subject we’re all hearing about, UFOs, alien life. All right, how do we address that? What do we know? What don’t we know? And fundamentally, how should a biblical worldview focus on the authority of scripture, help to drive and shape how we even approach this? And that’s what Rob gave there in that last segment. When we come back, we’re going to delve into this area, but why is there such a desire, it seems to prove that alien life exists or exists somewhere?


Sam Rohrer:       Well, if you’re just joining us today, my special guest is Rob Webb from Answers in Genesis. And we’re talking today about a topic that if you’re listening to the spot there in the middle, we’re just referring to it and that says this, UFOs unidentified flying objects. And often with that, the concept of aliens or alien lives.

So we’re trying to deal with that because we need to understand how to address what appears to be a developing phenomenon in our modern culture. So in an article I found written about a month ago, a secular author was published in The New York Times. The title of it was, “NASA Panel says data problems make explaining UFOs difficult.” Okay, now that was the title. Here’s the writer just a little bit from what he said. He’s saying, “A Pentagon official, speaking at a recent meeting, said the Defense Department is examining more than 800 cases from the past 27 years. But only two to 5% of those incidences are considered truly unexplained.”

It goes on to say, “People are and always will be interested in space aliens. But these unexplained incidents are not extraterrestrial visitations. They are mostly drones, balloons, and trash blowing in the winds. I’m going to say there is no conclusive evidence suggesting an extraterrestrial origin for, he used the word UAPs, standing for unidentified anomalous phenomena, according to Nadia Drake, a panel member and science journalist.” Now that’s just a little piece from that. Rob, let me get in a little bit further on that. I just quoted from that recent New York Times article to demonstrate a couple of things. For instance, one, there are hundreds of reported sightings of UFOs with a, in most cases, supposed associated alien life form as confirmed by the Pentagon. That’s one thing, it’s there.

Secondly, there are many more people who have over the years reported seeing things that would fall into the category of something in the air that was not identified, and they remained convinced that it had to be connected to some non-human life form. That is another evidence of that out there. But for most even in those cases, those sightings would be at the end of the day humanly explainable. Yet as the Pentagon says, even for them there remains two to 5% of something that they cannot define. Therefore, it’s enough to keep the door open for a continuing intrigue.

But I also share the article because if the world and the American public, Rob, have learned anything over the past three years in our nation, around the world, it’s that we live in an age of complete deception where truth has literally fallen in the streets and disinformation, when the government or government agencies make declarative statements about anything, most thinking people have gotten to the point where they hear what they say, reject what they say, take nearly the opposite and are generally more accurate. So we’re in that climate.

So Rob, with that disclaimer I just put into there, it makes the consideration of what we hear a bit more challenging perhaps. So would you share with our audience now a little of the why. And you started to go there in the last segment. Why are average people, not just those in the centers of research somewhere, but the average people in our modern culture today, they’re so personally prone to seek evidence of some alien life either around us or somewhere in the universe? Because there is seemingly an appetite for that. Why?

Rob Webb:          Yeah, just to kind of build off of what I said in the last segment, I mean there’s millions upon millions of dollars of research being poured into this. And it’s not just the second community, even Christians nowadays I get approached almost on a weekly basis here at the Christian Museum of Christians who are now buying into this idea of extraterrestrial alien life out there. And like we’ve talked about, it’s really now the biblical idea that I think Christians should be holding onto. And really it’s rooted in the evolutionary kind of worldview that says the earth is nothing special, nothing but a pale blue dot. So they’re constantly searching for any kind of evidence because they believe that if life spontaneously, by unguided processes, was arose here on earth and it had to evolve elsewhere upon the countless number of other planets and solar systems that are out there.

That’s why they’re constantly looking for those earth-like kind of planets because of all the media attention and popularity, they’re always claiming that they have. But again, I think if we just take a step back and look at the big picture here, why are people always interested? Why is there so much hype in this alien idea? Well, because really I think a lot of people, they were, like the Bible says, I mean, every single person is just desperate to find hope. They’re searching for something bigger and beyond themselves. They have that fear of death. They’re always looking for a way to find that real purpose, right? Because in the evolution worldview, it says if life evolved by unguided processes, there’s really no hope or purpose. When you die, that’s it. You’re done.

Many desire to learn a lot of the mysteries of the universe, and a lot of the people today they think maybe these advanced aliens might have such knowledge. Fundamental questions, like why are we here? What’s the meaning of life? And so on. So people think maybe these aliens have these highly advanced medical knowledge that could cure diseases or pain and suffering, or maybe these aliens even know the secrets of life and death itself, the secret to eternal life. And I mean, if you just take a step back and look at it, it sounds familiar. It sounds like a secular replacement for God in his word. So really this belief in aliens is actually a very religious belief. It’s a religious belief that takes people away from God and His word.

And that’s something I say all the time is if you do encounter someone who’s buying into it, it’s a perfect segue into the gospel. You could say, “Hey look, there is someone out there, it’s God. And He created us to have a relationship with us, to have fellowship with us. And it’s God’s word that gives us the secrets to eternal life, John 3:16.” And so I always say the truth is not out there. The truth is in there in the Bible, which says Jesus is the truth, John 14:6.

Sam Rohrer:       I think that’s very good because you went right to the heart of it. Within the heart of every person, who am I? Why am I here? Where am I going? That is it. And the scripture gives it to us clearly, but if somebody doesn’t want to go there, they’re going to look for it somewhere else. So that perspective personally I think makes really good sense. And probably our listeners would say, “Yep, yeah, I can understand that.” Let me ask you another, this is a professional perspective. What you gave was more of the personal average person, but from a scientific perspective, you even said when you were with NASA that seemed like you were around people who were driven to be spending their time and their lives trying to find something way out there. So here’s my question from a scientific perspective, why is so much of “science” bent on trying to find some evidence of human life? And when did that start?

Rob Webb:          Yeah, I mean, ultimately what it comes down to is people are always trying to explain our origins. They’re trying to explain the past without God, without reference to God. They’re using the shifting sands of man’s opinion. And so they’re always basing themselves in terms of that world. That’s something we say all the time here at our ministry, you can’t approach the evidence in an unbiased fashion. Everyone has a worldview in how you interpret it. And from the evolutionary worldview, they believe if there are lots of worlds out there that are billions of years old, that should exist. All of these technologically superior civilizations out there colonizing the galaxies.

Yet through scientific investigations, the more and more we learn about the universe with all of these NASA missions like the James Webb Space Telescope for example, we’re looking out and we’re observing all of these exo planets. We’re observing all of these solar system, and we’re finding that all these observations are supporting the biblical worldview and actually it’s showing that the earth is really unique in the universe, which is contrary to what the evolutionary worldview believes, which the evolutionist would start off by saying the universe must be packed with life all over the cosmos. And so that’s why the late Enrico Fermi, who was a prominent atomic scientist, he asked the famous question, where is everybody? It’s commonly known as the Fermi paradox.

And all of a sudden they’re looking out and they should be finding life everywhere, and they’re not finding that. And so this is becoming a paradox revolution, but expected with biblical creation. We looked everywhere, and all we find are rocks and [inaudible 00:17:12] matter. There’s even trying to listen for radio signals from aliens and not one signal that we’ve detected so far is coming from an alien. And so every single NASA mission gets past all the fluff. They’re always their mission. They’re always trying to find alien life. That’s their ultimate goal because they want to justify their own evolutionary assumptions.

Sam Rohrer:       You answered somewhat my question and that is this. From a historical perspective, it’s probably tough to go back, but until Darwinism and evolutionary thought came out and made its way publicly into the culture and put somewhat of a “legitimate platform” there for considering the origins of life from some source other than God. Before that, this pursuit of looking for life elsewhere, that probably didn’t exist, did it?

Rob Webb:          Yeah, for most of church history, if you look at it, that wasn’t even a thing. It really wasn’t until we started to go into the heliocentric model, that’s when all of a sudden people started thinking maybe there are worlds out there, other worlds like us. And if there are other worlds out there, maybe there’s aliens on those worlds. And so for most of history, this was not even a thing on people’s minds.

Sam Rohrer:       And ladies and gentlemen, we’re about at the end here of the segment. So again, it’s worldview. If you start with God, then where you go after that fits within a God-shaped, biblically-shaped view. But if you throw God out of the picture, then you work forever trying to get everything to fit and make sense of it. But ultimately it never does make sense because it can’t make sense. That make sense? Put it that way, but sometimes what appears to be complex is frankly rather simple. When we come back, we’re going to go into the area and basically ask the question, well does alien life, does it actually exist? Does a UFO really exist? Can you find any proof of it anywhere, in any way? At the end of the day, does it make any difference?


Sam Rohrer:       Well, when it comes to the associated issues of unidentified flying objects, UFOs, and their sightings and the possible associated non-human life forms, these two generally walk together. I’m going to put it this way, these two frequently walk together, though they are not expressly linked. For example, when it comes to the existence of unidentified flying objects. Okay, summary considerations have generally fallen into one of three categories as I’ve studied this in researched this whole area, most you would find boiling down into this. Number one, they are real. Number two, they are not real and a hoax. Or three, they are simply demonic. All right?

Now since the significant congressional whistleblower testimony by UFOs that’s been occurring in Washington in the last weeks, there’s a fourth category that’s now on the table. And it’s that narrative projected by all of those that have been stepping forth as whistleblowers. And that fourth one is this, some UFOs are real, but they are humanly designed, but possibly with demonic assistance. All right, now there may be some other variations of that, but that fourth one’s on the table that lo and behold, some of these things are real, but they are identifiable, they’re not demonic, they’re actually manmade.

And you’ll find things coming out further in the weeks ahead, I am sure on that. But I will tell you, I will attempt to deal with some of these issues in a future program, not today. But when it comes to alien life, however, there are similar potential responses which we’re going to talk about here next. Rob, let’s go into this. Feel free to offer any additional comments on any of those four categories identified that is shared right now regarding the consideration of the existence of UFOs. However, what I’d like to specifically for you to focus on is this, is there any evidence at all for alien life, either on earth or non-human life forms somewhere in the universe? You’ve already touched on a lot of that, but let’s go to the heart of this issue, any proof whatsoever? And from your perspective, does it really make any difference at all or is this just a debate in nonsense?

Rob Webb:          Yeah, I mean, I think you covered it pretty well with those categories, and I think we have to at least say all of those categories are at least possible except for the, of course, the one that says that they’re from other alien worlds or extraterrestrial. So as we’ve already discussed in the last segment, alien life is just not a biblical concept. But real quick, I want to just define what UFO really means because I think a lot of people in our culture today, when they say UFO, they really mean flying saucers or alien spacecrafts. But the term UFO, all it means is just unidentified flying object, that’s it. Which means every single person has at one stage of their life seeing something in the sky that they did not recognize, which all of a sudden if you don’t recognize it in the sky, then it becomes a UFO, it’s unidentified.

And of course, the objective should always be to identify what it is to become what’s called an IFO. Once it becomes an IFO, then it’s identified, an identify flying object. So like Ken Ham says all the time, yes, I believe in UFOs, just not the ones piloted by wookies and aliens and Klingons and all that. But obviously in our culture today, people are always looking for that natural explanation for sightings of all of these unknown flying objects that we just can’t see or quite understand. But the problem is people will take that and they’ll take it a step further, they’ll make a huge leap in logic, and they’ll basically imply that if you can’t explain it, then somehow that proves it’s an alien spacecraft.

But such reasoning is actually very illogical. It’s called affirming the consequent fallacy. It’s like saying all polar bears are white. I’m white, therefore I’m a polar bear. So obviously it’s very unrealistic to try to interpret these undocumented second, third, fourth hand stories of no actual evidence. But of course, there’s no doubt some people are sincerely seeing things in the sky that they don’t understand. But that’s natural because most people, we don’t really make a study or a habit of studying objects in the site. A lot of us, we’re not pilots, we’re not involved with designing aircraft. So a lot of the times we’re just not familiar with these things.

And of course, from a biblical worldview, we’d expect to occasionally see things that are not easily explained given our finite minds. So we just always have to make sure that we’re always basing ourselves and realizing that it’s really a worldview issue that if you believe in aliens, if you believe we’ve been visited by aliens, and that’s exactly what you’re going to see. We talked about in the last one, evidence doesn’t speak for itself. You have to interpret all evidence through worldview. So if you already have a worldview that believes in aliens, that’s what you’re going to see.

Whereas someone who doesn’t believe in aliens, they’re going to look for more of a naturalistic explanation, whether it’s manmade, because there’s a lot of things like satellites, military aircraft, even Chinese balloons that we see in the air. We don’t really understand a lot of the natural phenomenon, too. I mean, there’s things like bull lightning and sun dogs and all sorts of things that people just don’t quite understand. So they draw that conclusion because of what they don’t understand.


Sam Rohrer:       All right, now people are listening and they’re saying, all right, so I’m going to go that to that other area because when we look to Scripture, Rob, and I want to get some comment on here, Scripture expressly says that there is human life. We know that. And there is animal life as we know it. And of course, all that’s confirmed in the Genesis account of creation. Yet we also know that there is also a spirit world in which angelic powers operate. I mean frankly, even Satan himself dwelt and took the form of a serpent in the garden. Demons are a life form that are real, but we cannot see them. Just like the example of the wind, we can’t see the wind, but we obviously can see the effects of the wind. So I’m thinking through scripture, Jesus regularly cast out demons. You didn’t see them. They were in people. They took control of people’s bodies.

In one case, Jesus was requested by the demons in the wild man in the cemeteries, if people recall, and they requested of Jesus that He send them into the herd of swine. So now these demons are actually in dwelling pigs, animal life. So there is a spiritual dimension, Rob, that we’ve got to mention in this regard because it’s extraordinarily real and sometimes these things manifest themselves in a human body, the body of an animal. But scripture augments this type of life as well and refers to that there is a battle going on in the heavenlies. There’s spiritual wickedness in high places. So these are some facts that we know from scripture.

So I need to go and ask you now with that further dimension, so to speak, as we talk about this, what’s your perspective, in that of Answers in Genesis, perhaps relative to this reality and context of our emphasis today, aliens, the increasing desired seems for many people to seek evidence of non-human life and to communicate with it. Knowing that in fact, it does exist there, even taking the form sometimes of an animal or a human body as we know from scripture. So factor some of that into it and whether or not that could factor into our understanding of UFOs and alien life.

Rob Webb:          Yes. So just building off of what I said in the last one, I think majority of the UFOs that are out there are just misidentified. They are likely either manmade or natural phenomenon, but there are that small percentage of ones that I believe truly are unexplained. And one of the things that we say all the time here as well is we live in a culture that’s very inundated in this materialistic, naturalistic type of thinking where anytime we see something, we have to have a natural explanation for it. Whereas the Bible says otherwise, right? The Bible says that there is a spiritual realm and we are in a spiritual battle constantly. Ephesians 6 makes it clear to put on the whole armor of God, and we don’t wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against forces of evil and the heavenly places.

So that’s a very real reality that we have to least be aware of. And of course, within this context, like we were saying in the last segment, belief in aliens is really an attack on biblical authority, leaving people away from God to this other religious belief, sort of like a secular replacement for God, for people trying to find the answers to life. But also at the same time, I think a lot of these encounters are all such a straight… They are demonic, they are spiritual forces that God warns us against very clearly in his word. For example, like in Deuteronomy, he says not to conjure up, not to speak with the dead, don’t call up the dead, don’t participate with sorcery or spiritism and all those different things and witchcraft. And obviously they’re an abomination, they’re detestable to the Lord.

And what happens a lot of the times is with these cases, they are just straight occultism and God’s very clear. He told the Israelites and He tells us as well not to go there. That when you’re seeing a lot of these cases, what you’re seeing is you’re actually seeing… They’re trying to make communication with something and something’s talking back to them. Just a real quick reference, if people want to know more about that, a really good resource is Alien Intrusion written by Dr. Gary Bates. He does it from a biblical worldview. And one of the main things he tries to say as well as myself, if you know anyone that’s maybe struggling with these type of beliefs or encounters with any…

Like they’re having any of these alien encounter experiences. As a church, we need to make sure that we’re ready to answer those questions. Because if you’re an elder, if you’re a pastor, you have someone in your congregation comes to you, make sure you have the answer for that so that they don’t go out and looking for the answer from a secular world, but from an anti-God culture. Make sure that you’re there ready to give an answer.

Sam Rohrer:       And that’s excellent, Rob, and thank you for doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, I would affirm that fully in these days when there are so many false communications and deception that reigns, we must be very, very, very, very careful as believers, as pastors, and churches and others that don’t just shove this to the side, treat it seriously, treat it biblically. When we come back, we’re going to summarize all of this now with some thoughts relative to responding biblically to this alien narrative.


Sam Rohrer:       Well, as we get into our final segment here today on a theme which we try to do regularly on this program, take issues, headline news that are of well, trending or dominant perspective in the media, and link them and bring them together and consider them from a biblical worldview in some cases, depending on its application, a constitutional perspective. Well, today is one of those days when we consider the extraordinary rise in discussion and focus of attention on those things called UFOs, alien life. And so we’ve tried to deal with them, Rob Webb, from Answers in Genesis. And they have their website. You can find their answers in, information on this and a range of subject matter.

But as we do, and as we’ve shared on this program, your starting point will determine your ending point. And if you begin from a perspective of fear of God and that God created and God is, then you’re going to end up in one place. If you throw that out, then you’re going to end up in another place. And end of the day, people are spending millions, billions of dollars trying to go and prove something that God’s already established and settled from the beginning. He is. He created, period, end of discussion. He’s beginning and it is the end. That’s what scripture says. So at its heart, that’s a lot of what’s behind what we’re talking about, but people love to talk about the things that they don’t know or the interesting aspects of it and all of that.

So we’re going to try and wrap some of this up here right now with some points or some method, a procedure to kind of walk through to help order our thinking. Because the rise of discussion surrounding these things we’re talking about, the paranormal, I haven’t used those words, but it’s in that kind of a category. There’s things that you can’t get your hands around. The spirit world, we have talked about some of that. The increasing attention that we see being given to the themes of UFOs and alien life, the media domination, the Hollywood for a long time, all of those things, it is a perfect opportunity, and I’m going to suggest, if not a moment of urgency to consider the fundamental question, how should a wise person, a Christian, how should they biblically respond to the alien and the UFO narrative?

All right, so Rob, we’re at that logical part. We’ve presented the problem, we’ve talked about some of the cause and all of that. Now let’s come to some solution. I’d like you, if you could, from a Christian apologist view to identify some guidelines, some simple things or fundamental biblical principles that a careful person can observe and to put into practice regarding this topic we’ve engaged today. Because God does not want his people to be confused. He wants us to be ordered in our thinking. So all right, you’ve got the task, go.

Rob Webb:          Amen. Like you said, we serve a God of order, not the God of chaos. And I would just encourage anyone that’s listening, if you’d like to know more about this topic or any other topic regarding creation or evolution or the biblical authority questions of our day, jump onto our website, You can research all the different articles. We have a lot of different books out there, as well as there’s a pocket guide that was written by Dr. Danny Faulkner, our resident astronomer. It’s called UFOs and ETs, a Biblical and Cultural Exploration of Aliens. Danny does a great job of talking about why all the interest in UFOs, how do we explain it from biblical worldview, what does the Bible say about it? As well as Dr. Jason Lisle, he’s written a short book on it called Are ETs and UFOs Real? So obviously we can’t cover everything in a short one hour segment.

So if you guys would like to know more about that from a biblical worldview, I highly encourage you guys to jump onto our website or our bookstore, you can order that. But ultimately, I think it’s Christians especially, we’re not to be deceived by worldly philosophy. We’re to base all of our thinking on God’s word. And like I was saying in the last one, more and more people, more and more Christians at the Christian Museum and the Ark encounter that I’ve encountering, there’s so many more Christians that are starting to really buy into this possibility that maybe there are aliens or extraterrestrials out there. And I would just really urge caution really just back away from that, look at it from a biblical point of view. Like we talked about, a lot of the theological problems that aliens do exist, as well as the scientific problem, too.

I mean, if you just look at what we’ve discovered scientifically, the evidence is not there for alien life. But if you do have someone in your church that’s maybe struggling with this, I highly encourage you take this opportunity to really reach out to them. It’s also a great segue to the gospel too, and just talking about how God’s word answers a lot of the questions that people are always looking for in terms of ET and aliens. Again, those fundamental questions, why are we here? What are we doing? Where do we go when we die? Because ultimately, a lot of these alien beliefs, they just reinforce belief in evolution to the leading people away from their creator.

And of course, like we were talking about the last second as well as Christians, we’re to stay away from any of the occult practices that are out there. Don’t participate in any of these practices of trying to reach out to these alien beings. A lot of the times you see a lot of these groups that are out there trying to establish communication with these aliens. And more times, not sadly, something does respond back to them, and it’s not something that they were expecting. And of course, like we talked about, God warns very clearly we are not to participate in those type of practices. We’re to stay away from it really to put on the armor of God, like Ephesians 6 says, so we can defend against all of the darts from the enemy.

Sam Rohrer:       And Rob, that’s excellent and I appreciate that very much., you can find in information there. And ladies and gentlemen, I’ve been thinking about this as well, and you probably are, too, we’re listening to the program. I just put together a few points, which I’ll share in the last couple minutes. It’s not different than Rob. It’s a little, just a different perspective. I perhaps, but build these two together. First point, saying what Rob said, start with God’s word. God’s word is truth. It’s all authority. Secondly, believe truly that God created all things in six days. And all that’s essential for God’s plan for man is contained in God’s word. We don’t need to look for any other truth.

Third, God’s plan of redemption, His plan for mankind is complete. It provides the reason for life, the meaning in life and the only assurance for eternal life. You don’t need to go anywhere else. Four, be more concerned with the study and the memorization and the application of and the obedience to the word of God repeatedly as God word says, rather than studying and pursuing those things, which God does not prioritize for us, such as like we talked about today. Maybe interesting, but it’s no priority established by God. Spend time studying God’s word and memorizing it and putting it into practice.

Number five, resist the temptation to always be learning something new. Whereas 2 Timothy 4:3 says, “People having itching ears would come a time.” Always got to find something new. Those who get caught up in this kind of a pursuit seems to me to fall into that kind of a category. And then the last thing is understand that a true believer is to be driven by the Holy Spirit, and that will be controlled by Him, the Spirit, or we’re going to be deceived by seducing spirits, doctrines of demons and heresies and led by false prophets.

Deception. 1 Timothy 4:1 talks about that even Matthew 24. Jesus said, “Deception, mark it because it’s going to be occurring.” So those are some of my thoughts as we conclude this program today. Isn’t it good as God’s people, those of us who know the Lord, to know that everything we need He’s given to us? He is the truth and it never changes. So when you hear all this other stuff that seems intriguing, stick it to the side generally. Stay focused on God’s word and he’ll take us through it.

Rob Webb from Answers in Genesis, thank you so much for being with me today. A great subject, certainly relevant, and I trust, ladies and gentlemen, helpful to you in a practical sense in how to deal with these kinds of things. Not limited to UFOs and alien life, but of which this is something dominating our thinking today. So God bless you. Thanks for being with us today. Have a great evening and we’ll see you back in 24 hours.