This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program originally aired on 2/7/24. To listen to the program, please click HERE.
Sam Rohrer: Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s also our bimonthly Israel, Middle East and Prophecy update program. Now as I mentioned on the Monday program, I’m really thrilled to have joining me today two guests, Bill Koenig, former White House Correspondent and President and Founder of World Watch Daily, and also Albert Veksler, Global Director of the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast. Now, I expected him to be calling in directly from Jerusalem, but he didn’t make it there due to some flight issues. And so he’s on this side of the Atlantic, as I said to him. But both of these gentlemen are with me today.
Now such major events grabbing the world’s attention seems to have for the moment shifted almost entirely to the Middle East. Obviously we’ve got an issue down on our border here, but the broader issues are revolving mostly I think around the Middle East, Israel, right in the crosshairs.
And I’ve been noticing with a certain amount of rapidity increasingly blamed as the cause of the unrest that’s literally sweeping the world. Now obviously that’s not true, but it seems to be something that’s coming up more and more. For the moment, the key actor on the world stage, which from a human perspective holds the key to Israel’s success or failure is our nation, the United States, now led by Joe Biden and the puppet masters behind him.
Now in reality, that places Israel in a very difficult position since from a political and economic perspective at this moment anyway, the United States can either be a savior to Israel or an enabler of frankly the Antichrist agenda itself. And as I consider our time in human history and biblical prophecy, I just can’t help but think that we are witnessing at least a precursor, fulfilling the verses in Zechariah 12:2 and 3 where God declares in verse 2, “Behold, I, God will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about.” Then in verse 3 says, really referring to the end of the tribulation period specifically there in that prophetical passage where it says, “and in that day I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all who burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered against it.”
Well, I think at a day not too distant future, Israel and Jerusalem will present such a problem for the Gentile nations of the world. And under the leadership at that time of the Antichrist himself, he’s going to gather the nations of the world together against the Jews there in Israel, and with the greatest of all hatred and venom ever goal to completely destroy and eliminate once and for all the Jewish people so that the Lord will not return, it won’t happen we know because the Lord will return at that point and he will save a final one-third of all Jews, who then though will call on the name of the Lord. And that’s the prophetical part of what we see unfolding.
But for now, the world’s leaders still vainly think that they can bring about a political peace, and the pressure on Israel is building by the day. And we’ll discuss this status in segment two and how their solution is only going to bring the wrath of God.
But there are other issues like the United States and Iran and the broadening war which threatens the entire world. And we’ll discuss more of that specifically in segment three. And then we’re going to talk about some solutions and upcoming Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast that you’re going to want to know about in the last segment.
Now with that being said, the title I’ve chosen for today’s conversation with Bill Koenig and Albert Veksler is: The world to Israel, “You’re a problem for everyone.” And that’s what it seems like. And with that, I welcome Bill and Albert, and I’m going to rather to save time here. Albert, I’m going to go directly to you. Welcome Albert, and I’d like for you to start us off today by identifying if you could, just briefly, the number one issue of greatest concern from your perspective living in Jerusalem or in the middle of the nation of Israel that’s facing the Jewish people there today, and briefly state why. Then I want to go to Bill, so about two minute answer please.
Albert Veksler: Thank you, Sam, for having me. Well, first of all, I think the biggest problem what we see right now is the hostages in Gaza and the pressure of United States of America over Israel, and of course of many other nations to stop the war against Hamas.
In reality, Israel is in such a position and our politicians are in such a position that whosoever would stop any war, let’s put it like this, to eliminate Hamas, whosoever would not be willing to go through to eliminate Hamas would totally destroy their political career because the nation has come to the point of greatest resolve I’ve seen over the last decades to make an end to this menace because we cannot live with Hamas side-by-side and the two-state solution, assuming that Palestinians would want to have a state side-by-side with Israel is an illusion, delirious illusion.
Sam Rohrer: Okay. All right. That’s excellent. I didn’t know for sure what you were going to say, but consolidated in agreement and unity, and you’re saying from a political perspective and a lot of this stuff, pressure on Israel is purely political, we know, but you’re saying it’s political suicide for a Israeli leader right now to agree to a cessation of activities before Hamas is eliminated. That’s a big deal.
All right, Bill, I’ll go to you. And welcome aboard by the way. I’d like for you looking from the outside now a bit from your perspective, the number one issue of greatest concern, let’s take it just outside Israel but impacting Israel, but within the Middle East right now that involves Israel, the United States, perhaps and the world. What is happening there, the biggest perspective that you would identify?
Bill Koenig: Well, it fits perfectly with what Albert just said, Sam. The bottom line is the work needs to be completed, Hamas needs to be destroyed and eliminated as a terror threat. And unfortunately the United States through Blinken’s fifth trip to Israel, the Middle East, his visit with the Saudis, he’s trying to do everything he can to get this war to stop. And there’s a tremendous amount of pressure on Israel to basically stop before they win the war.
This is a bit similar to what happened in 2006 when Israel’s faced with Hezbollah. Bush and Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State were totally favorable for about fighting, I think it was five or six weeks, allowing Israel to do what they needed to do with the Hezbollah situation. And then the international community led by Bush and Rice came in and said, “Okay, let’s put UN peacekeepers in Israel or on the Israeli border.” And since that time we have 150,000 rockets and 15,000 missiles pointed at Israel.
So the bottom line here, Sam, our concern here in the United States, supporters of Israel is the enormous pressure that’s being exerted in many ways, whether it has to do with military equipment, ammunition, diplomatic and otherwise, and even Biden’s treatment of Netanyahu in an attempt to stop this war before the war is completed.
Sam Rohrer: All right, excellent gentlemen. Thank you Bill. Thank you Albert. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. Our theme today is this: The world to Israel, “You’re a problem for everyone.” And that’s exactly what Israel is hearing. When we come back, I’m going to go into more detail on this two-state, I’m going to call it the two-state non-solution. A lot of political pressure. I’m going to give you some quotes next time. You’ll see just how significant it is, and we’ll build that out with Bill Koenig and Albert Veksler.
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Sam Rohrer: I think one of the greatest challenges facing Israeli leadership, and we talked about some of that in the last segment just briefly, but facing their leadership and the people of Israel right now is the increasing global pressure to accept a Palestinian state. And you heard what Albert Veksler said about that. That’s a no-starter, a non-starter. And a Palestinian state, and ostensibly it’s the area of the Gaza now where the fighting is going on and Judea-Samaria deceptively referred to as the West Bank.
Now for instance, these past 10 days, I’ve been seeing recommendations beginning to increase and come pouring forth from a number of places, and I’ve seen some of these formally recommendations to me almost being housed in terms of threats. There’s almost a desperation that I’m hearing and some of them I’m reading.
Now, here’s a progression. This is Joe Biden. He’s currently taking the lead for our nation, obviously. May 2021 go back a couple of years, but he said this at the White House Press conference when South Korea’s President was there. He said this. He said, “But I’ll tell you what, there is a shift. The shift is,” and then he said, “here’s the thing, we still need a two-state solution. It is the only answer, the only answer.”
So the Biden administration has been there for a long time. That was a couple years ago. Now the pressure’s only increased on Israel and on this theme, since the Hamas attack back in October. Now January 26th, just some days ago, Media Line, a news source out of the Middle East ran an article entitled: As White House pushes for a two-stage solution, gaps between US and Israel could become more visible. All right, you see the tension here in that title.
Now on a February 1st article really just a few days ago, New York Times writer Thomas Friedman, he said this. He’s a friend of Joe Biden, by the way. He said this, calling it the Biden doctrine, “The new Biden doctrine would include boosting US ties with Saudi Arabia alongside a normalization of ties between Riyadh and Jerusalem and maintaining a tough military stance against Iran and its proxies.” Interesting, huh? Went on to say, “and would involve some form of US recognition of a demilitarized Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. If the administration can pull these two together, a Biden doctrine could become the biggest strategic realignment in the region since the 1979 Camp David Treaty.”
So you get the idea of how big this is in their minds right now. Then just yesterday, in Al Bawaba, Middle East News, they said this, “According to NBC, a senior US administration official added that the Biden administration is exploring options to recognize a Palestinian state following the Gaza conflict.” And then, as to Israel’s response, in that same article reports, they report that the US Secretary of State Blinken, now get this because this is where you’re going to see how they’re strategizing, Blinken was at the recent World Economic Forum Davos meeting. He said this there, “Israel will not be able to secure itself without a pathway to a Palestinian state.” You hear that?
Now what he stated there in simple language is this, he’s saying in clear language that the type of strategy that they’re using with Israel is bribes, it’s corruption, it’s an influencing of foreign policy. And they’re basically saying to Israel, “You’re going to do what we tell you to do or we’re going to cut off supplies, we’re going to harm you in some way, but you will do what we say you will do. And in my words, we don’t care what God says.”
All right, Bill, the concept of a two-state solution, you commented on it a little before, it’s existed for a long time. Compared to past efforts, what’s different about the push for it now?
Bill Koenig: Sam, excellent lead up to this question. Very, very detailed, and that’s exactly what’s taking place. I mean right there we’re seeing the Biden administration with Blinken’s efforts to do everything they possibly can. I remember right after October 7th, I think it was about a week after October 7th tragedy there in Israel, Biden says, “This is the time for the two-state plan. Let’s have an Israel-Palestine deal now. And that will just defuse Hamas, that will eliminate the effect or influence that they have,” which is totally absurd.
Also, Thomas Friedman, he was the one that pushed hard on George W. Bush in 2002 and even went to Saudi Arabia to meet with Crown Prince Abdullah and developed the 2002 Arab plan, which is basically their two-state plan.
The international community, there’s a fatigue with these conflicts. And also the international media continues to show the rubble of Gaza and also the international community or international media, it continues to show these protests in country after country, which is part of the overall plan to force Israel into a precarious position of moving toward a two-state plan.
Blinken which is what you’ve shown, Blinken and Biden are going full course press and we’ll see how this plays out. But again, the European Union is right there on the coattails to push in their areas of influence as well.
Sam Rohrer: Absolutely. Okay, Bill, let me go ahead now to the next step ’cause I want to get Albert in here for a comment, but we’ve talked much in the past about it, but your book Eye to Eye and people can find that, watch.org is your website, but Eye to Eye, you document God’s response to every official proclamation by US presidents to divide the land of Israel, which is exactly what this two-state non-solution is all about.
And now about a week ago, the UK announced, one of their officials announced that they were about to formally declare a Palestinian state. I saw that and I thought, “Wow.” And then the Biden administration steps up and now just doing what we’re talking about here.
What concerns does this raise in your mind and connect some dots relative to it because this is not just a political decision. God’s very concerned about what’s unfolding here, isn’t he?
Bill Koenig: Oh, that’s exactly right. Simon, my friend with Revelation TV in the UK contacted me. He said, “We have hurricane force winds that are disrupting our country right now, right after the UK made that position in the Palestinian state.” And what we’re seeing right now, Sam in Los Angeles is historic floods. I mean these are some of the most significant floods in the history. And the Eye to Eye premise is the greater the pressure on Israel to divide their covenant land, the greater the corresponding catastrophes.
And you can feel this collective fury or fire or wrath of the God of Israel when they talk about creating an Arab state in Judea and Samaria, the biblical heartland of Israel. And this continues and that’s what we’re seeing right now as the Biden administration is pressuring Israel, we’re watching these historic floods and weather related events in Los Angeles and that area in Southern California.
Sam Rohrer: And according to the National Weather Service, by the way, Albert one-in-1000 year flood is how they’re terming it. And there’s $10 billion at this point in damage. It’s a big deal.
All right, Albert I’ll now go to you. Within Israel, according to a survey that I saw just yesterday, they say by a majority vote, 51 or so percent Israeli citizens reject a Palestinian state, even if it means a temporary ceasefire and normalized relations with Saudi Arabia, which in those quotes I read is what Blinken and the Biden administration’s trying to do. So that’s involved.
Here’s my question. Do you think those reported survey results are true? Is it that close, like 51%? And again, build out the attitude that you described earlier that’s within Israel toward the war and any solution that’s now on the table.
Albert Veksler: You know Sam, the pressure that we’ve seen come in the form of these polling results and Biden administration saying that Netanyahu didn’t basically deny the possibility of a two-state solution, which afterwards Netanyahu totally denied saying anything like this.
The situation in Israel after October 7 has totally changed and shifted our left wing because the attack on these kibbutz’s and these little towns neighboring the Gaza Strip, basically these people who lived there were the most peace-loving, Arab-loving left wing people. And the left wing, Sam, is more angry even than the right wing.
So the resolve that we have in Israel is unprecedented. I mean, as you said earlier, it’s suicidal for any politician even to think that we would stop because this kind of a surrender, whatever pressure it is, would mean that Israel would accept that we will have to live with this murderous entity next to us who have not repented, no remorse, no change of mind. They say we will continue with October 7’s as long as it takes. And it’s a religious, it’s a religious dimension there that concerns me the most because they think that they will receive a special reward from Allah for killing the Jews and they have a goal of killing all the Jews.
So how in the world can anyone with a sound mind even think that the two-state solution is viable when the second side, I mean the Hamas side or the Palestinian authority side even don’t want anything to do with the two-state solution? I mean, why doesn’t Biden ask Hamas people what they want and then reassess his plans, but obviously he has his own thinking behind it and plans behind it.
Sam Rohrer: Well, he does. And ladies and gentlemen, you get the idea. Man plans and that’s what’s happened. The elites of the world say, “We’ve got our solution.” But they don’t care to find out what God says about it because God’s already determined what’s going to happen and they just plow ahead. And as Albert said, they don’t even talk to Hamas. Hamas already made it clear they don’t want a deal. And Israel doesn’t either. When we come back, we’re going to broaden this discussion to now consider United States and Iran because that’s the broader conflict that’s unfolding around Israel.
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Sam Rohrer: Under the leadership of Joe Biden, our US military interests have endured for over, well, we endured over 150 missile attacks by Iranian-backed proxies in the Middle East over the last month. You know that since October 7, and the US did nothing. And we’ve covered that on other programs specifically, particularly ones I’ve done with JR McGee on that theme.
But now last week in conjunction with the UK, the US has attacked a number of primarily Houthi military sites following the killing of a number of US soldiers. Now with the reports indicating that a posturing against Iran by the United States is tied to political efforts to win back some alignment with Saudi Arabia in exchange for them pressuring Israel to accept the two-state solution, a true political war is underway in my opinion.
Now what I just said right there comes off of one of the quotes I gave in the last segment. The United States offended Saudi Arabia, as you all know. Joe Biden highly offended Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia’s, “I’m going to cut oil.” They did other things and then they went and they did a further alignment with Iran, theoretically their enemy, and snubbed the United States because of the treatment that we gave them. But now because they’re cutting oil and other things, it’s now all of a sudden a big political concern for the Biden administration. So now we got to make amends.
So they’re trying to approach Saudi Arabia, how can we get back on your good side? That’s basically what’s happening. Help us on this two-state solution, and then things, maybe they’ll work out. That’s what they’re trying to do. It’s a political war. And so the entanglement with Iran, I’m just going to conjuncture my opinion is more for political posturing to try to gain some favor with Saudi Arabia than it is to really fix any problem.
There’s one thing that is for sure. The Biden administration and the global elite, what do they want? They want more chaos and war. Why? Because it provides them opportunity to seize more freedom from the average person and advance their own goals, which are quite clearly anything but favorable to Israel and what God’s word said is going to be the case. So there it is. I throw much more thoughts there.
But Bill, from an overall perspective, how would you describe the US and Iranian engagement at the present and add into it? Is it serious or is it more staged drama? Why? And just put your thoughts together on this.
Bill Koenig: It’s more staged, Sam. That’s the bottom line is, I mentioned this every time I’m in an interview, Iran, they’re very smart, very strategic, and they have a plan. They’ve had top nuclear scientists assassinated. They’ve had their head of their military Soleimani taken out in Iraq. They’ve seen one weapon shipment after another destroyed, and they haven’t responded.
They continue to develop their nuclear weapon program. And unfortunately with Biden’s three years in office, they have seen a tremendous amount of oil shipments. Again, I think they’re at a half million barrels a day. I think they’re around a million and a half to 2 million barrels a day. They’ve got, I think $10 billion that’s been transferred. Still trying to identify whether that’s true or not. And 6 billion sitting in Qatar right now that Biden administration was going to pay for five or six hostages to be released.
The other thing is Iran knows that they’re not going to get smacked hard right now because Biden’s worried about the price of oil and the impact that that could have on this 2024 election. Iran has their problems with ISIS, with Taliban, and with some other internal terror groups. So they’d love to see this plan. With that said, they’d love to see a ceasefire agreement immediately because they have a lot of money invested with Hamas. They have a lot of money invested with Hezbollah, and they’re all being positioned.
Fortunately, a lot of Hamas has been dealt with, their war machine, but they position Hezbollah, as well as in the plan of developing a nuclear weapon to eventually destroy the state of Israel. We know biblically it won’t happen. But nonetheless, the Biden administration has been a friend, not an adversary in that US-Iran relationship.
Sam Rohrer: Okay, excellent. That’s a super overview. Now let’s go just one step further, and you kind of have answered it. Israel thus far has avoided a direct attack on Iranian interests, although they were very, very clear that at which point they became nuclear-capable, they would have to do it, US involved with them or not.
Well, a week ago in this program we cover it. The Nuclear Commission actually confirmed that, yeah, Iran does have nuclear ability now. It’s changed. I mean it’s amazing to me how the media has not really covered that. So how do you think the US-Iran-Israel conflict unfolding in the weeks ahead? Is Israel going to do anything about it? Or is United States sufficiently telling them back off?
Bill Koenig: But at the same time, Albert might have a better handle on this than I, but the bottom line is there’s a red line. We don’t know where it is. We know that at some point if Israeli intelligence says it’s time to do something because they’re getting very close to their nuclear weapon, who knows what’s buried underneath the ground there. We’re also looking at Jeremiah 49:34 through 39 as a fulfillment of dealing with Persia, which will likely be Israel.
But with all that said, Sam, I don’t think we know where the red line is right now for Israel. And this is a decision Israel’s going to have to make on their own, not influenced by the Biden administration or anybody else. They’re going to have to make their own decision. Obviously that’s getting close to the red line. We just don’t know where it is at this point.
Sam Rohrer: Okay, that’s great Albert. All right, two comments on that one from internal perspective, is there talk inside Israel about what they should or will or will not do, that red line that Bill talks about? That’s one thing. Comment on that.
And here’s the other thing, because Iran continues to try through its proxies to put pressure on Israel. Part of what the Houthis are doing in the Gulf area there, they have said part of their goal is to tamper with outside supply chains to harm Israel economically.
All right, so comment on that. Is there any discussion about that, any impact thus far seen in Israel and what may the Israeli government do regarding to those two things?
Albert Veksler: Well, number one, Israel and our government has very clearly stated that there are these red lines. Netanyahu has said it very, very clearly, many times in the UN and in other forums. The supply lines, they have not been able to disrupt them. Of course, they have disrupted and made a major chaos in the whole Red Sea area for all the global supply lines, not just for Israel I mean. And that’s the reason why US and England are also attacking Houthis because they need these trade routes to be open.
But coming back to these prophecies, what you mentioned earlier about Iran, and I would also bring Psalm 83. I think Israel will actually come out of this war in a surprisingly more, let’s say, a better position than we had before. I tell you, there is a sense in my heart that something is going to shift in this war as we pray, as people will continue to support Israel. Because I mean there are so many prophetic words if you check it out in Ezekiel, in Isaiah concerning Esau, Edom, Elam. I mean we talk about Saudi Arabia, we talk about Iran, we talk about Jordan of all countries. And I think that there might come a different situation, even similar in a way that we had after the Six-Day War. Although it has been four months war so far.
I sense that there’s going to come a breakthrough. And I really want to encourage our friends that are listening to pray for Israel, for our government, for our soldiers, so that this breakthrough would happen.
Sam Rohrer: And Albert, I’m glad you went there because you referenced the Psalm 83 on this program before. Somebody that I think both of you know, Bill Koenig, I know you know him well is Bill Salus. We’ve talked much about Psalm 83 war, ladies and gentlemen I recall. And Albert’s sense of confidence in what he’s talking about what may happen, I think we all frankly should be aware because according to that passage, it does appear, I don’t know how else one can read it, the Israeli military, which has to be the IDF, is victorious over a battle with what would appear to be the collar nations, the nations right around immediately around Israel.
There is a decisive battle, a war that is fought and won, which does make Israel in fact come out stronger. So in the midst of all of these things that are happening, just one of the reasons why we need biblical wisdom and God’s wisdom. We look at what’s reported. We see what people say. We see what their motivations are. And our world leaders’ motivations right now have nothing to do with what God wants. So, we go to the word of God and say, “What’s the word say about it?” Well, in this case, and it’s got to be right at this time we’re talking about, Israel, God comes to an aid and God uses their military to make a decisive battle. In the end, the end of tribulation period, they can’t help themselves and so God himself comes back and does the win.
And how do we know that? Because the word of God tells us. And it’s just pretty exciting in my opinion to see watch headline news almost unfolding by the day according to what scripture says. When we come back, we’re going to talk about prayer and what to do.
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Sam Rohrer: We’re already at our final segment today. And I hope if you’ve been listening since the beginning, you’ve enjoyed this interplay between Albert Veksler who resides in Israel, been on with me many times and leads the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast, actually has a son who is in the IDF and has commented on that in the past and has a very unique and accurate view from the inside of what’s taking place in Israel and of which a lot is taking place.
And then Bill Koenig, who’s a friend of Albert Veksler and myself, and he’s been on with me many times as well, and as a former White House correspondent for five years, or for a long time, way more than five years, 25 plus, has a unique perspective as he brings together a perspective of biblical prophecy with a political analysis as a former White House correspondent and blends all of these things together.
So gentlemen, thank you so much for being a part in carving this time out of your schedule today. But both of you have mentioned, and I’ve mentioned prayer because prayer is important. So Albert, I want go to you here right now because you, a member of the parliament there in the Knesset, and our friend, our audience knows well, Michelle Bachman. And Bill, you were involved, all of these things involved, helped years ago put together the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast effort, a time of praying with and for government leaders, but focused on Israel.
Now there is one coming up in Jerusalem first. My wife and I have been able to be there a number of times, Albert, a wonderful event. People can go. We’re not going to be able to make this one at the end of May, but speak briefly about what’s coming up in May and then we’re going to go to one coming up just actually in a few weeks.
Albert Veksler: Thank you, Sam. And it’s been really a privilege to see all of these things that have been happening. It’s going to be our eighth Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast May 28 to May 30. I mean it’s a very unique opportunity to come together and to pray for Israel with Israeli government members present. It has been changing history literally.
And I had to just mention another thing in the seemingly dark picture, there are some amazing changes taking place. Sweden, for example, after 60, 70 years of anti-Israel coalitions ruling that country, we have now a government in Sweden who have declared themselves to be friends of Israel. I was privileged to help the Swedish Democrats, Christian Democrats in Sweden party members to go and visit with Israeli government. They met with Prime Minister Netanyahu in August, and there is an opening that has never before been. They are openly talking about not recognizing Palestinian state. They are openly talking about moving the embassy. And on April 4 and 5 we will have a Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast in Stockholm. So it’s just mind-blowing. If you think that the most secular nation in the world has suddenly experienced such a change.
We can talk also about Argentina where Javier Milei is currently in Israel. He has declared that he will move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. And the most important event for us right now in America of course, is the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast in New York during the UN Week, September 15, 16. And here we need a massive coalition of people to come and pray because you don’t need to be a prophet to realize that Israel will face a diplomatic tsunami that will come against us. And so as never before, we will have to bring together all those who love Jerusalem.
The Bible is very clear. Those who love Jerusalem will prosper. That’s what it says. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Those who love you will prosper. And God’s word tells us to put Jerusalem on the list of our highest joys. I mean, loving Jerusalem is something that God actually tells us to do. So that’s why I would invite everybody to come and love Israel and love Jerusalem from closer position. Come to Jerusalem. Despite all of what is happening, Israel needs your support and we would be very happy to see you come. Jerusalemprayerbreakfast.org, all the information is there.
Sam Rohrer: Okay, that is excellent. And again ladies and gentlemen, you’ll hear more on this because for most of you to go to Jerusalem, obviously that is a difficult thing. You can do it. I would encourage you, if you’ve never done it and it’s possible, consider doing it. But this event coming up in New York City, September 15 and 16, during the time of this UN meeting. This is a big deal. And in my opinion, it is going to be a confrontation in the spirit world because you’ve got the heads of darkness with major things that they intend to pass and to discuss and to do. So this is a big deal.
Bill, let me go to you because again, former White House correspondent, you wear a political hat and a biblical hat. How do you see this UN meeting coming up in September and with what we know they’ve said they’re going to do and all of that. And Albert used the word a tsunami of pressure against Israel. I think this two-state solution, if it’s not in place before, there are a lot of things that could come out of this meeting of grave concern to all Christians and Israel. So any thoughts that you may have in regard to that?
Bill Koenig: Well, Sam, if there’s any indicator that something’s going to happen, it’s the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast. The Prayer Breakfast was in Rome. The current prime minister was not the Prime Minister at the time, and she was one of the speakers. I was at the Hague at the time the Netherlands government agreed to a significant reparation to Holocaust survivors families. I was in Brazil with the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast two days before the presidential election in 2022. And I tell you, Sam, something very significant could happen. One, the Prayer Breakfast is going to be there, and number two, it’s all coming to a head.
When you look at what Biden said at the UN in his last UN General Assembly addresses, it’s been about the two-state plan. Lapid was there in 2022, I believe it was. And then we had Hurricane Ian happen at the very time he was there at the UN. So with all that we’ve covered today, Sam, I think this could be one of the most significant US General Assemblies having to do with the state of Israel and its covenant land.
Sam Rohrer: Okay. And I think you are right. And ladies and gentlemen, I just throw this on the table also, just from the standpoint of the UN. When the UN gathers in New York City, our country, there are always significant things that are happening. Do you know this, and I don’t have time to go into it, but just a few days ago, Joe Biden announced an executive order that was governing a couple of individuals, Jewish individuals in the West Bank sanctioning them? He declared a national emergency here in America, declared a national emergency. Again, I can’t get into it, but it’s bizarre. But in it, I read this fact, see if I can find it here. But he is basically in here saying that the interest there of the Palestinians and all of that needs to proceed according to the United Nations and the United States.
And I saw that. Again, I’ll build that out in another program. But there is a lot happening. There’s a lot happening. So we’ll just leave it there. Thank you gentlemen for being with Bill Koenig. Watch.org is his website. And Albert Veksler, jerusalemprayerbreakfast.org. Go to for information there. Go back and listen to this program again and a lot of information here today. Share it with a friend. I think they will very much appreciate you sharing this with them, information today I know you’re not going to get anywhere else.
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