Defending Health Freedom: A Health Freedom Update

Oct. 16, 2024

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest(s): Twila Brase

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 10/16/24. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:       Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s our monthly focus on health freedom here in America, the threats and the efforts to defend it as well. My guest today as normal on this focus is Twila Brase. She’s the president and the co-founder of Citizens Council for Health Freedom, their website, CCH freedom.org. But before I get into the program today, I just wanted to express my appreciation for all of you who prayed for me and co-host Dr. Gary Dull as we were away from the microphone, ministering and preaching in the African nation of Kenya last week. Now, we did not make a great deal about this trip in advance, but we were there as lead teachers and preachers at a pastor’s conference where they were just shy of a thousand pastors, a three day event. A lot of other things went on there as well.

Sam Rohrer:       But God blessed in a very great way and I’m going to devote a program or at least a portion to an update on what happened there probably next week. So thank you so much for your prayers. If you were aware and prayed, and if you did not, when we ask that you regularly pray for us, it’s for things like this that come up in the process of open doors that God puts before us. Now, I would put out there, do pray for our Dr. Isaac Crockett as he is away visiting this week and most of next ministering on behalf of a APN in a nation known for its extreme persecution against Christians. And I’ll let that right there, but I hope to give an update on that next week as well. Now with that being said, let me return to our focus today with expert guest Twila Brase. My title today is this Defending Health Freedom. We’re going to give a number of report updates. And with that Twila, thank you for being back with me.

Twila Brase:        Well, it is always good to be with you, Sam, and your listeners. It’s great.

Sam Rohrer:       It’s great to have you always. Now, Twila on today’s program, I’m just going to say for the sake of those listening, there are four areas we’re going to touch on, ladies and gentlemen, where health freedom is specifically under severe attack. These are areas where we’ve discussed here on the program before and even touched on most of these in our last program when Twilight was with me. So Twilight, let’s get started here. The first area concerns patient privacy and how that HIPAA, which people know that to be supposedly a privacy protector put in place by the federal government August 21st, 1996. But the regulations actually going into effect April of 2003, so quite a few years later. But how we’ve talked about, you’ve emphasized that document, those regulations actually do nothing to protect personal health information, but rather it actually is a mechanism to collect it and privacy, it’s a major thing. So when we were together last I guess September 18th of last month, Twila, we mentioned a lawsuit by the hospital association in regard to the set of regulations. Just update us what precipitated that lawsuit? What was the hospital association’s greatest concern and what is the current status of that?

Twila Brase:        So the US Department of Health and Human Services told hospitals that they were violating HIPAA when they were using the kind of tracking tools that Google and Facebook have out. And so then the American Hospital Association sued HHS and basically said, you do the very same thing. What are you doing trying to tell us we can’t do it? And then a judge in Texas ruled that the department was wrong, that the hospitals could use these websites. And so when the listeners are on the hospital websites or doing anything having to do with the hospital, they are collecting data on you. And then they might even be sharing it with other technology companies, social media companies, advertising firms, data brokers, a whole slew of entities who want access to that data including themselves. And like UnitedHealth Group, UnitedHealth Group has its own data division called Optum Insights. And UnitedHealth Group is like the biggest health plan in the world. And their data division one year, I think its revenue was 18.9 billion. And all it does is data.

Sam Rohrer:       Wow, that’s incredible. So that brings it up here. I’d like you to deal with this. We’ve talked about it before and that is this, I know the younger generation really say, well, you know what? They already know everything about me anyway, so no big deal. Nothing’s really happened. What’s the issue? But when somebody gets their finances hacked, their credit card hacked or whatever, some of that comes a little closer to home. But here’s the point. This has happened over a long period of time. I think a lot of people are lulled to sleep and think that, well, you know what? Privacy isn’t that big of an issue. So here, when it comes to personal health information and what we’re talking about, give some examples of why it is so critical that health information be kept private and why it’s so evil that HIPAA, our federal government, pretends to be a friend when in fact it’s a foe.

Twila Brase:        Yes. Well, as every tyrant knows, and we do know that HHS became a tyrant during covid, but they’ve been a tyrant longer than covid. It’s just most people didn’t see it. So as most tyrants know, if you can conduct surveillance on people and get information on people, you can control them. And we at CCHF say this little phrase, he who holds the data makes the rules. That has always been the case. That is why data is valuable. That’s why there are spies that go into different countries to gather data so they know what to do, how to control, where to attack, et cetera. And so this idea that the federal government and Congress have made all of our data available to outsiders for them to either profit off of us by selling the data or profit off of us by putting this data with that data and that data and coming up with an entire profile that says you can’t have the treatment you want and therefore that saves the government money or that saves the health plan money.

Twila Brase:        Those are different ways of profiting off of it, but also to control the doctors just to use that information against you, the patient. Because truth of the matter is the hospitals and the clinics and the health plans are really for the most part aligned against the patient. Now, there are lots and lots and lots of doctors, and we saw that a lot in Covid, right? Just doctors who were following protocols that the hospitals put out there and the health plans and the government demanded and the patients were left to fend for themselves. But there were also really good doctors who either left that whole thing, got ousted from it, lost their ability to be at the hospital. I’ll sit from the hospital loss their credentials because they were good doctors, because they still believe in taking care of the patient. And we need those kind of doctors.

Sam Rohrer:       Yes, we sure do. Twila and ladies and gentlemen, we’ll build out that particular point about what docs who are concerned about being able to be patient focused are doing in third segment. When we come back, we’re going to talk about a real live issue coming up. We’ve talked about it and that is real id. So stay with us and we’ll update on this as some important dates are looming just ahead of us. Well, if you’re just joining us today, Twila Brase is my guest. Those of you regular listeners recognize her name. And this is our monthly focus on health freedom. And we’re going over really four major areas that are impacting health freedom. We talked about one the last segment, HIPAA, and again, we will review some of these in the last segment again. But here’s another one I talked about real id. We’re going to talk about it just a bit of history.

Sam Rohrer:       Put it all in perspective. In 2005, Congress passed what is known as the REAL ID Act. Now ostensibly, fraudulently, ostensibly though it was passed with the intent of what they said, preventing identity fraud. However, it had nothing to do with preventing anything illegal. Instead, it was all about and remains all about furthering the most egregious and unlawful efforts by the federal government to implement a very long feared and unconstitutional national ID card that was confirmed by former Tennessee, US Senator Lamar Alexander, a name that some of you would recognize now linked to global standards, very important to understand real ID is linked to global standards which fall under United Nation standards and part of a globalist effort to impose a system with the capacity to consolidate a means of biometric tracking, which was not much heard of at that point, but certainly is something we see well in the news almost every day.

Sam Rohrer:       And linking that information to other personally identifiable data, the real id, the dates of implementation have been postponed a number of times. So we’re sitting here almost about 10 years since that point. The current implementation date is now set for May 7th of next year, 2025. And what’s different, I think in some respects is that the Departments of Transportation Security, TSA and the US Department of Homeland Security are together urging a no further extension and saying, get this thing done. And they have a whole list of things underneath of that. So Twila, when you and I were together here on this program in September, we talked about this and you and I have encouraged people to go online. Actually you primarily we have, but you’ve taken a lead on it and having people to oppose the real ID implementation. Now, since that time, you’ve done a lot and thankfully many, many people have gone online and voiced their opposition, but our listeners obviously don’t know what the result of that is. Can you tell us what has happened in the last month where things now sit regarding the closing of the comment period, which happened to be yesterday?

Twila Brase:        Yes. Well, thank you so much for telling me back in September, September 18th about the fact that this proposed role was sitting there. And so we had basically three weeks to do something. And so we mobilized every contact that we could reach. We asked them to engage. We even changed the way we talked about real ID to let people know that it was more than they thought it was. It’s a real ID system. It’s not just a card. And so yesterday was the last day of public comments. When we saw this rule on September 18th, there were 63 comments and lots of those were in support of the rule. And as of last, at midnight, there were 31,425 comments, and most of them are all opposed to real id. And I think that they put it out now in the midst of a very heated political election in hopes that none of us would actually even see.

Twila Brase:        And so thanks to you and thanks to God who brought it to your attention, and thanks to everybody who actually commented. So now they’re going to have to address these comments. And you and I both know that even if there were a hundred thousand comments, they could still move forward with it. But my hope is that this is going to ignite something nationwide and all those who know about it, who will tell other people about it, as well as it might give some opportunities, opportunities for litigation, because we ask people to say it was unconstitutional because it is so for the American people to recognize it’s unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable is very important and it is a huge bar for them to actually leap over.

Sam Rohrer:       Yeah, it sure does. And ladies and gentlemen, can I just throw in here, Twila, thank you for your effort. And ladies and gentlemen, when we have guests on particularly recurring themes like Twila, it is because there are good people that God has called to be in certain areas. Health freedom, protective health freedom is one where Twila is. And I know most of you listening really like when she is on because we hear from you. But I’m just want to say that we do this on key themes with credible guests in a partnering type of way. There’s no connection between us except that we agree on approach to issues of which this is one. So thank you to all for those of you who went on, because 30,000 is not a hundred thousand, but there were only 60 when we talked about it a month ago.

Sam Rohrer:       So thank you all. And it’s just a demonstration that when you support us, you are also helping to support these good entities like Twila and Citizens Council for Health Freedom. So I just want to say that and make that point of connection here. Okay, Twila, let’s go here. Again, the real ID people may be aware, most are increasingly aware. You have said in the past that the only reason, and I would agree with you, that probably the only reason that extensions were made on deadline dates were that there was so many people, a third to maybe a half of Americans who didn’t have a real id. So if they would’ve tried to enforce it, it would’ve been chaotic across America. And they’re not wanting to do that. So they’ve been incrementally pushing, pushing, pushing. Do you have any idea how many are still not signed up for that anyway, to know that and why the best hope for freedom from this unconstitutional national ID system is still for people to refuse to get it.

Twila Brase:        Yes. So some people have said, isn’t the over? I’m like, absolutely not. There’s not none. The proposed rule itself says there are 44% of IDs and driver’s license that are not real ID compliance. So they don’t have the star. And they say things like, not for federal identification purposes. They have that kind of thing. They’re the standard licenses. And our hope is to get people to go back. No matter what stage you’re in, you’ve got four years to renew and you have a real ID in your pocket, go renew. Now go replace it if you can do it. There’s only five states that can’t. Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas and Wyoming. They mandate the real id. But all the other states say you can have a standard driver’s license. So those 44%, let’s move it up to 48% and then let’s move it up to 52%. Let us reverse the direction of the statistic.

Twila Brase:        They have said during COVID that they were getting 2.5% compliance per year until covid, and then it dropped down to 0.5% increase and now they’re really worried. So they want to, like I say, they want to force you to, they want you to suffer until you submit. And that’s why this proposed rule said there would be progressive enforcement, progressive consequences. They were even suggesting three strikes. So you can go to the airport three times, they’ll give you a warning on the fourth time, even if you come with your luggage in hand, your children in hand, your tickets in hand, they’ll send you home.

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Twila Brase:        This is the kind of rigorous enforcement to try to do an unconstitutional thing that they are trying to do because they are worried that this will not happen.

Sam Rohrer:       Okay.

Twila Brase:        The interesting thing, oh, go ahead.

Sam Rohrer:       No, no, no, no, that’s fine. I was just going to catch up on that here in the last couple of minutes. You’re building out a little bit, ladies and gentlemen, remember this word, coercion threatening and progressive implementation and progressive consequences. I’d looked at the regulations and what they’re saying. Those are the words I’m telling you. Whenever a government begins to use those words, progressive implementation, progressive consequences, it’s bad news. So at this juncture, the easiest thing to avoid that kind of coercion is to, in this case, don’t get the real id or if you have it, renew it without one. Now that being the case, explain just a little bit more because there are so many things, warnings about this and warnings about that. Most of them are true in this case it is true. But build out a little bit, what are some of the consequences? If real id, if not enough people oppose it, how do you suspect based on your information that it will affect people’s freedom?

Twila Brase:        So the real ID is not just a card, it is a system. So what they’re building here is a real ID system, which they intend to put this real ID credential onto your phone. And in testimony to Congress in December, the Association of American Motor Vehicle Administrators, otherwise known as amba, it’s really the state, the heads of the state DMV departments, they said they’re looking beyond real id. Their intention is to put this credential on your phone and have it accessible by remote so they could remotely reach into your phone and they could disable your real id. They could disable your driver’s license, disable your identification. And the other thing about this is the law says that the Secretary of Homeland Security can unilaterally decide what are the official purposes for which this credential must be produced. And so it says, and any other purposes that the secretary shall decide. So not just commercial flights, right? Any other ammunition renting a car, getting married, you name it.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, ladies and gentlemen, get the idea again, this has been underway for a long time. I fought it aggressively when I was in the Pennsylvania house. Twila is fighting it. We’re pursuing and pushing it now, but it’s because of these reasons we mentioned only a few. When you come back, ship to another area, talk about trust. Doctors, hospitals not trusted, they don’t trust the system. What’s being done about it? We will share some of that information next. Alright? When we started the program talking about HIPAA, which is the regulations that we’ve been told for so long protects our health, our personal health data. But we are saying, and it never has, it’s just the opposite. We talked in the last segment about real id, an effort underway for about 10 years, but now increasingly underway to force everybody to get it. We’ve talked about that.

Sam Rohrer:       I’m going to shift now to doctors in the element of trust and what docs are doing. We just touched on that brief in the previous segment. I want you to think about this, the importance of trust. I’m actually going to do a program on this with somebody just on the issue of trust in the future. But when you think about it, the trust of those in authority is essential for freedom to exist. Think about that. If you can’t trust the police officer, if you can’t trust the judges, if you can’t trust those in Congress, if you can’t trust, alright, well we’re in a real problem right now, a trust deficit, but destroy the trust, you’ll destroy freedom. Sadly, the enemies of freedom of which there are many have been working I think like termites to undercut and destroy trust in everything. And where did they start?

Sam Rohrer:       They started with God. Think about it, and I won’t go into all the detail, but the effort to undermine faith in God as a nation started in earnest in an official capacity. For instance, when prayer in schools was made illegal in say 1962. So this is not something new. And it was further undercut in 1980 when the 10 Commandments were ordered to be unlawful by our supreme Court. They said they were unlawful to be placed in our school classrooms. And they said that the 10 Commandments was a dangerous document to our children. Think about it. So what’s that do to trust? So discredit God, you will destroy truth. Destroy truth, you’ll destroy trust. Destroy trust. You’ll destroy freedom. Alright? Twila, trust in doctors and trust in hospitals is fundamental, I think at least to maintain health freedom. Yet according to the research as you’ve reported, trust in doctors and hospitals has plummeted particularly since covid. When government coerced, as you just said before, coerced the entire health system through bribery and other means to trample established health protocols and actually lie to the American people, putting patients’ interests on the back burner. But here is my question, what does the research actually show? And as you’ve posed, can trust in the healthcare system actually be restored?

Twila Brase:        So the research shows, well first the statistics. So 77% of physicians have now shifted from independent practice into corporate employment. So they’re not working for you. And the government has caused this to happen through Obamacare and consolidation and through the electronic health record mandate, which is an unfunded mandate and it’s huge. I just saw a statistic that sometimes the cost of putting in an electronic health record system is as expensive as building a new hospital. Just think about that. Alright? So a recent study and in the journal of the American Medical Society shows that trust in doctors went from 71.5% in April, 2020, just as Covid was beginning to now in January, or not now, but in January, 2024, it dropped from 71.5% in April, 2020 to 40.1% in January, 2024.

Twila Brase:        And some of the reasons, of course are everything that we know that happened, right? But also just generally poor quality of care. I mean, there’s a lot of times where you can’t even get a nurse, right? Or you can’t get a doctor or whatever. And I think one of the other things is just that people now know that doctors aren’t protecting their privacy and doctors their own political persuasions and they’re not listening to the patients. They’re just doing whatever the protocols say. I think that that’s a dangerous thing for patients and it’s a terrible thing for medical excellence. There’s just something new that came up from a group of doctors. They call themselves doctors for Harris. They did an open letter and they’re demanding that Trump release his medical records.

Twila Brase:        And I think this is all just a political stunt. They want to see what they can do looking through his medical records and they say that Harris has released hers, but she has not. Her doctor of only three and a half years in the White House has put out a letter and said these things like she’s got myopia, she needs contacts, in other words and urticaria, but this is nothing about who she is or how she would be as a president. But this group of doctors are actually asking Trump to get rid of his privacy, his medical record, privacy. And that shouldn’t happen. That’s another reason not to. I’m aware the public doesn’t trust because it’s all become political in the exam room. It’s no longer about the patient.

Sam Rohrer:       Well, it’s what we’ve referenced I think in another segment when you can weaponize the justice system and you can weaponize as it has been, personal, private information such as in the health. That’s what we’re talking about right here. So ladies and gentlemen, you can imagine there may be health data that you all have out there, things that you’re being treated for that you don’t want anybody else to know, for example. Or maybe your health is not as good as what appears to be on the outside. Well, if somebody knows that and you’re speaking too loudly or you’re raising your voice well if somebody can have that information, alright, that is one way that it can be used against you to silence the truth. So you get it. Let’s come back here. On a related matter, the evidence is showing that many doctors who were coerced or incentivized, a lot of those that were forced into the collective practices, most of them last 10 years as you were saying, a massive number of docs went out of independent practice surgeons and other specialties and others.

Sam Rohrer:       And they joined hospitals in most cases. I mean, I knew a lot of these guys locally here in Pennsylvania that I worked with when I was in the Pennsylvania house and they were forced to a position where the government kept reducing their fees, what they would get for surgeries, and they made them poor and dependent and the only hope was to join a hospital. But when they joined the hospital, they survived for a moment, but now they can’t focus on the patient here and hence the trust. What is the status and the docs doing in particular to try and reclaim independence from a system that routinely destroys patient trust?

Twila Brase:        Well, there should be more doctors looking outside and figuring out how to do this so that they can sleep at night and feel like their ethics and their morals haven’t been compromised and they should be able to get paid for what they do. And right now, they’re not even getting paid for what they do. They’re getting paid for providing outsiders with statistics. So most of their time is at the chart and not at the patient. So I am happy to say that there are still people leaving these corporate practices and going into their own practices. There was a physician called Dr. Susan Baum Tel, I can’t remember exactly how it was pronounced, but she left her clinic, which was purchased by Optum, which is a subsidiary of the largest health plan in the country or in the world. And she just said the healthcare system was broken and she needed to be able to feel good and feel like she was able to follow her own ethical code.

Twila Brase:        So this is happening, our wedge of health freedom, our initiative to build a parallel system. We are still working toward that. I’d like to make it go faster, but according to God leads here. But anyway, so we’re more and more practices are going independent, but it is a hard road and a lot of people are just so tied to their insurance. They don’t want to leave it, but their insurance is a bad deal. It’s not actually real insurance and it has lots of prior authorization that tells you no, and you paid all this money, right? It’s not real insurance and it’s not for just insurable events. And if we had that kind of insurance, we would have an affordable insurance policy and then prices would also be affordable at the doctor’s office when you paid them cash because most things would be for cash because most care is cash able as it were. It’s just being inflated by all this paperwork and all these third parties in the middle of it,

Sam Rohrer:       Absolutely Twila. I got about a minute left here. But for those who are listening and they say, well, I’m on insurance, I’m not willing to cut my insurance, but venturing into a relationship with a doc could be a chiropractor, it could be a family doctor, it could be whatever, to bring up that discussion. Even though they have insurance, could they not still try to engage a cash relationship with that doc and just don’t touch the insurance so as to try it out to see how it works before they actually cut their insurance policy?

Twila Brase:        And that would be a great idea. That’s a great way to do it. And even if you never cut your insurance policy, you do want a doctor who’s in your corner who is not a corporate doctor doing the corporate thing. You want a personal doctor doing the personal thing, personalized medicine for you. So you can do that as we try to move this entire system to real insurance. Nobody’s got real insurance today, except those who are in healthcare sharing organizations. They have real coverage. It’s not insurance either, but it works the way real coverage and real insurance should work. And so we need to do that. But you need to try the cash-based practice and see how that works because you want a doctor in your corner when the corporation says no and when the corporate doctor says no and when nobody’s telling you what really needs to be done.

Sam Rohrer:       Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, I think you get the idea. Many of you listening to me probably are already involved or experimenting with paying cash to doctors. It does work. There are a lot of people are doing it and it really does help the doc and it helps you to have a relationship with the doc that we all remember was important. The dollar is important, but the doctor patient relationship is far more important. We’ll be back in just a moment. Well, as we go into our final segment, we want to wrap up a few things here. Twila, that was good to hear you on your spot, ladies and gentlemen. During the breaks you’ll hear that we have oftentimes certain one minute little programs. The one you just heard was one that I do stand in the gap minute. That program’s on a theme. It’s on about 800 stations across the country.

Sam Rohrer:       That was one you heard. You heard. She’s on many programs. And Twila, how appropriate what you just said is to our discussion here today. It’s quite interesting and it was not planned. That’s just the way that God works it out. But let’s shift just to a little bit more now. We’ve raised a number of issues, HIPAA privacy issues, talked about real ID and what’s coming up there and then talked about the matter of trust in hospitals and doctors that are plummeting. And I’m going to suggest, and as you have that it’s driven by federal government policies, which put incentives or coercions in front of our healthcare people to make decisions that are not in the patient’s interest but are driven by money. Bribery, I’m going to call it. It’s an atrocious thing, but the effort to move back the cash is a great way to remedy that.

Sam Rohrer:       But you have on your website a lot of these themes with solutions as we try to give in this particular segment in particular. So let’s go to Medicare now. This is one we haven’t talked about today, but people 65 and older. And as you’re approaching that date, you have to make a decision. You got to become a part of this federal government plan. It doesn’t work well. But nonetheless, you are putting together a guide. I think probably the first of its ever type. I haven’t seen anything like what you’re working on to help people understand Medicare, the good parts, the bad parts, what to do about it and all that kind of thing. What’s the status of this guide? When will it be ready? What kind of questions will it answer?

Twila Brase:        Well, on Tuesday was Medicare annual enrollment, which began. And so people are looking for what they should do differently with what they have. And there are always people enrolling. 10,000 baby boomers every day are eligible for Medicare. So this guide is about to be published next week. We’re expecting to be able to publish it on Monday the 21st of October. It is indeed very unique. Nobody has one like this. It includes 10 Medicare traps to avoid. It has checklists. It has a two page summary for those who just want to breeze through and get the general idea.

Twila Brase:        If you’re a vet, there’s a special area for what to do if you’re a vet and what not to do. There’s just a lot of different things that the guides that I have seen won’t have. And of course, we actually want people to make the best, most educated Medicare decision until we have something better than Medicare for American seniors, which is one thing of course, that our organization is driving to. And we do talk about that in that guide. And we do have a bias, I’ll admit it and I admit it within or those of us who wrote it, it wasn’t just me writing it, but we do have a bias. And that is that people do not choose Medicare Advantage. And if you just look at the news, and most people aren’t, but there are hospitals dropping Medicare Advantage. Medicare Advantage is talking about raising prices now because the government is cutting them out of their bonuses, star ratings are being cut, and that means they won’t get as much money. So now they’re going to probably take away some benefits. But altogether, the whole idea is go into original Medicare, get a supplemental policy so you’re not stuck in the hospital with absolutely nothing to pay your bills if you’re there for a long time. And so we had those kind of recommendations in there as well.

Sam Rohrer:       Okay, I think it’s great you brought up that bias Twila, because you and I share a bias, ladies and gentlemen, you need to know it because it is true. What are we biased for the truth? I am biased in favor of the truth and in case of Twila on these matters, as all of our guests in our specific areas, they’re biased towards the truth, which helps each of us to make the right decisions on issues. Our goal here in the program is not to tell anybody what to think, but we are very, very concerned about providing information to help people know how to think and come to a right conclusion. So I just want to say that bias point was a good point, but we’re biased towards the truth. Now here’s another one. What other sources of information do you have? Because if somebody goes to your site, a lot of our listeners will write me, they don’t have access to internet. So for them it’s maybe difficult. So if you don’t have internet, ladies and gentlemen, you’d like to maybe have a child or a son or a daughter or a grandson or granddaughter to do it for you, but you can get information. But what else is there on your CCH freedom.org site, for instance, about REAL ID perhaps or paying cash or that type of thing we’ve talked about today?

Twila Brase:        Yeah, we’ve got a page having to do with national IDs that includes real id. The latest posts are almost all about real ID today. There will be our media statement about the Trump Harris medical records. We have a helpful handouts section toward the bottom of our homepage@ccfreedom.org. And you can find six helpful handouts in there, including one that you can take with you to prepare at the hospital or at the clinic to protect yourself. Questions that you can ask, how to avoid the intrusive questionnaires, all that sort of thing. On the discharge instructions, that’s what we call them. There’s also seven questions you can ask legislators as we come now close to the election, what is it that you would like to be able to ask and get a good quality answer from them? We give you the kind of answer that they should give you if you’re freedom oriented. So there are a variety of things in that, helpful handouts, and we’ve got HIPAA, everything to know about HIPAA and other areas as well.

Sam Rohrer:       Okay, great. Well, we have about two minutes left here. Is there any other issue here as we bring this program to a close that perhaps has come up that I didn’t build into the program that you would like to mention or emphasize again?

Twila Brase:        Well, I think covid, a lot of people think that covid is over. And I’ve just talked to some people who just got covid and they were really sucked in on it. And we’re looking for ivermectin. I just say keep it know that Covid has a fear and Cleveland site unit, that’s not normal. That was created. It’s not the flu. It’s never been the flu. And for some people it’s going to hurt them to get covid and for others they’re just going to pass through it. But we also have our covid quick reference guide with the early treatment list. And everybody should be prepared. Everybody should have a covid doctor in mind that they’re going to call if something goes awry. And then just they’re finding out new things about covid and how it impacted the body and what’s actually in the vaccines. And don’t take any more vaccines than two according to one doctor who says it really decreases your immunity to all sorts of pathogens, the more shots that you get.

Twila Brase:        And the Cleveland study showed that very same thing. So COVID is not over. We don’t like it to be over, but it’s not. And then masking is starting up again in some hospitals. So we really have to shut down these things that public health is going to try to take over the country and use healthcare to take over the country in these ways. And we all have to be mindful. Encourage your legislators to write bills and laws against public health by H-H-S-C-V-C, world Health Organization, Idaho. There’s a senator in Idaho that’s working on that kind of bill, and you can talk with our legislative person here at CCHF. We are regularly working with state legislators all around the country on bills for health freedom. So if you’ve got a legislator, send them our way. When you get the new legislators, tell them about us. Help us work together to bring freedom back to this country by changing the way that the laws are currently written.

Sam Rohrer:       There you go. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re out of time. Twila, thanks so much for being with me and ladies and gentlemen, we’re all a part of it. We’re all a part of knowing the truth, and we can act appropriately in different ways depending upon where we are. But knowing the truth to make right decisions is something we should all strive to do. Pray for wisdom, always need it, but God will give it to us when we ask. And so pray for wisdom and pray for courage to stand in the gap when that time comes Again, Twila, thanks for being with us. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for being with us as well.