Biden Irresponsibly Triggers Possible World War

Nov. 20, 2024

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: J.R. McGee

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 11/20/24. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:       Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand in the Gap. Today. If you were listening to me on Monday, I had no voice at all. Today I have a little bit, still not better, but it’s working its way there. So if you’ve been praying for me, thank you. And if not, please do. I would appreciate it. But anyway, due to the increasing potential of World War triggered by the Biden approval of allowing Ukraine to use US attack missiles, which then to be launched deep inside Russia, the world has changed. If you’re looking, it has changed. It is changing fast and with Russia’s very clear stated response, which was known before that approval was ever given, there are a lot of things on the table known and a lot yet unknown. But as a result of this, I’ve asked JR McGee friend of this program, military information warfare expert and counter-terrorism specialist.

Sam Rohrer:       He’s been a trainer of Navy Seals and Delta Forces operators for a long time. Ask him to join me today to address what we know about this quickly developing circumstance which has hotspots certainly in Europe but elsewhere now. In addition with reports that Bibi Netanyahu was also hospitalized with health problems and we know that ended up not to be the case. But nonetheless, that was out there two ago, an Iranian leader, Ayatollah Khomeini potentially in a coma. And the US having elected Donald Trump, as we know as our 47th president, but still about 60 days before he gains lawful power, the world sits in a precarious position with major national authority temporarily suspended as in the United States, or questioned perhaps as in regard to Iran. Now, in any event, the potential for dislocations and broader war to ensue are very great in the window of time. To prepare mentally and physically as best as one can is rapidly closing. The title I’ve chosen to frame today’s conversation is this, Biden Irresponsibly Triggers Possible World War. And with that, I welcome into the program right now, JR McGee. JR, thanks for being back with me yet to clear some schedules that you already had planned in order to be with me today. But I’m glad that you were able to do that,

JR McGee:           Sam, it is always a pleasure to be with you and our friends in the listening audience. Thank you for having me.

Sam Rohrer:       Yep, you’re welcome. JR, on Monday’s program I had former White House correspondent, Bill Koenig, and he’s now been recalled as we announced on that program to be an official White House Trump correspondent, not a Trump correspondent, but he’s been invited by the Trump White House to again be a correspondent. And in that regard, we addressed the most current information regarding Joe Biden’s decision to allow Ukraine to directly involve the US in an attack inside Russia, even to Moscow by launching these US attack missiles. Within hours of that Ukraine fired six missiles. Now it seems the dominoes are falling, yet even Congress does not know what Biden agreed to do with Zelensky or allow them to do. In fact, yesterday afternoon, Texas Congressman Self last night, he affirmed that he’s drafted impeachment papers against Biden, but he’s waiting to actually drop them legislatively until after a White House briefing with congressional leaders. The point that he made I thought was important was he said, no one in Congress knows what Biden agreed to allow Ukraine to do. And it appears that whatever Ukraine wants to do directly implicates the United States. That’s a major problem. So here’s my question. JR the lame duck decision of Biden to let Ukraine use US, missiles has turned a lot of heads from a strategic military perspective, what does a move like that mean to you? And if you can comment for what end?

JR McGee:           Well, Sam, it’s a mixed bag. There’s pluses and minuses on this. On the plus side, it’s past time for us to give Ukraine what they need to go deal with this situation if that’s what we’re going to go do. We’ve dealt with the half measures and halfway things trying to achieve parody, which we know never works on the downside. It uses US military hardware that requires US military support to carry out a launch deep into Russia itself, which implicates the United States as a party. Now, Russia has updated their nuclear doctrine to cover that, which says that they’re taking this extremely seriously. So what this does is it escalates the potential for a much wider conflict far above where it was 72 hours ago.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, and with that, because Biden did that, the UK and France, they have a similar, they call storm shadow, it’s similar missile to attack them. They had not given Ukraine the go ahead until we did, but now that we did, they did. And because they did Ukraine as of a short bit ago, have also fired those missiles into Russia. So it’s already broadened just in a couple of days. Comment.

JR McGee:           Well, and here’s the thing. The French missiles are the storm shadows. British missile, the French code name for its scalp. It’s got 155 mile range, which is pretty extensive. They’ve used these into the former Crimea area against the Black Sea headquarters for the Russian Navy and against Russian naval ships to great effect. So these have been used, but not in Russia proper. The attack S has 190 mile range. It’s a supersonic missile. The storm shadow is a Subsonic cruise missile. The attack S is a rocket. 190 miles goes up to 160,000 feet, which is at the edge of space, makes it far more difficult to intercept and deal with. So these rockets, these missiles drastically expand the Ukrainian’s capability of engaging Russia where they’re staging their military hardware and their logistics supplies to support their invasion of Ukraine. It puts a lot of that hardware and a lot of those men in great risk where they were not at risk 72 hours ago. It complicates Russia’s strategy significantly for supporting the invasion of Ukraine and is going to require them to a reposition some of those outside that range and or deal with the source of the attack, which is attack the missile launchers themselves. It drastically updates and increases the complexity of this both for the Russians from a defense point of view, and the Ukrainians from an offensive capability to put Russian assets at risk.

Sam Rohrer:       In jr, I don’t know if you had seen this or not, but a short time ago that information came out of White House personnel that in fact Russia suspected that this was going to happen or was given some kind of a heads up because it appears that they may have moved some of their most important equipment that could be attacked by these vessels. They moved it out of range. So I don’t know, but ladies and gentlemen, there’s a lot going on. There’s somebody strategizing and this strategizing for what’s taking place leads only to a bigger and broader war. And in the next segment we’re going to talk about some of the responses to date. How is Russia likely to respond, has responded, and what about Europe and European nations themselves? Well, the Biden decision to authorize the use of the attack missiles, they cost about a million and a half dollars a piece, by the way, some more than that, but the authorization to use them against Russia was quickly followed as I just mentioned by the UK and France with their equivalent type missiles.

Sam Rohrer:       Since Sunday, Biden has authorized also the use of anti personnel mines by Ukraine against Russia and another 750 million of military aid for Ukraine. There’s a lot of things happening. The implications are many and responses unfolding I think are worth noting. Jr. Let’s start in a second, talk about some responses. Let’s start with Russia. What is Russia’s response to date thus far to what they consider to be a NATO declaration of war against Russia, which now includes directly because the weaponry being used is now identified officially the United States, the UK and France. This thing is growing. What’s Russia’s response?

JR McGee:           Well, the most specific response is Russia updated their nuclear usage doctrine on Sunday. This is a very serious thing. They’ve lowered the bar for when and where their tactical battlefield nuclear devices can be used and Russia has made it very clear that the use of certain systems and technology will be viewed as a direct involvement and a serious escalation by the parties involved. Here’s the direct quote or a very close to direct quote from that upgrade. Aggression from any non-nuclear state with participation from a nuclear state will be considered a joint attack on Russia and an attack on Russian sovereignty. What they’ve done is they’ve legally set the stage to where what we did yesterday meets the criteria for this and allows them to use tactical battlefield nukes without hesitation. Now there’s consequences for doing that, but they’ve set the legal stage to allow them to do that, and we ignored that at our own peril because Putin is not known for bluffing. He’s never had to bluff, he’s always been in control wherever he was, whether it was the KGB, the FSB or as the president of Russia. He’s not known for bluffing and I don’t think he’s bluffing now, Sam.

Sam Rohrer:       And so that is a major thing. Okay, let’s just hold that for a moment then. Let’s go to Europe. Nations, European nations appear to be taking that threat not as a bluff, but as you say, he hasn’t had to threat or to bluff, he means what he says. So they’re taking that threat for the use of tactical nuclear retaliation, which I want you to explain also what exactly that means very seriously. Sweden and Finland as an example, have issued printed citizen warning procedures about how to prepare and what to expect perhaps from a response from Russia. So what can you add to what we see European nations now doing in response to these last couple of days?

JR McGee:           Let me answer your first question first. The tactical battlefield nukes are smaller than the nukes that were used in Hiroshima, and they’re also a much lower half-life. So the radiation’s not nearly as intensive. It doesn’t last nearly as long. They’re designed to kill people but not destroy a lot of infrastructure. They’re very limited in scope, they’re small footprint, but the European nations are taking this so seriously that the nations that you just described and others are now warning their people to take active steps to prepare by acquiring food, water, they’re teaching them what to do to protect against radiation fallout. They’re actively telling their citizens to go do and take these preparations. They wouldn’t do that unless they were very serious about the fact that this is a real threat because this borderline’s on terrifying the population. No government official wants to do that unless it’s absolutely necessary. And to that point, Russia is even doing the same thing. Russia is mass manufacturing mobile radiation shelters that handle up to 50, 53 people for two to three days. They’re designed to shelter their population from radiation and chemical weapons. They’re manufacturing these as fast as possible and they’re actually distributing them out to their locals all over Russia. They wouldn’t do that if they didn’t think that this was a very serious threat.

JR McGee:           The fact that everybody’s getting prepared for this and we’re not taking it seriously concerns me when everybody in the world is in step, but you might not be the one that’s making the march for the parade. It may be us. That’s out of step and I think that’s the case. I really would love to see the United States take this more seriously. I think this was set up to make Trump’s inauguration in first couple of weeks more difficult, but this is going to spin out of control very, very rapidly. Sam,

Sam Rohrer:       I think it has all of the earmarks of that as well, JR. But let’s go to another response here. I’m going to get your comments on. There are other, I’m going to say unnamed responses, one of which this morning as an example actually implicates China. A ship of China was in the Baltic and it was over the undersea internet communication cables, two of which now were cut in the last couple of days. A very serious thing. They’re implicated I think by the Swedes because in their maritime observances, that ship was the only thing that was over the cables. So they’re saying, all right, so anyways, that’s in process right now of evaluation, but what can you share about this evidence of, I’m going to call either unrestricted or hybrid warfare and relative to the cutting of these cables and what it could possibly mean because of possible Russia response or maybe Chinese compliance response. This is growing, but your comments,

JR McGee:           Yeah, this reminds me of one of my grandfather’s comments. Somebody’s preparing to do something to somebody somewhere, and there’s a technique where you get a large commercial ship that drags their anchor, and these ships are very powerful. They’re very large, they’ve got a lot of mass. They can drag that anchor very easily, and anything on the bottom gets tore up by that anchor. They know exactly where these cables are because the Russian submarines have mapped these cables in great detail. So there were two cables cut, one between Finland and Germany, and the other one was cut between Sweden and Lithuania. Now just cutting two cables in and of themselves is not significant from the information flow. But what happens is the more these cables get taken out, the more load is placed on the other cables, and the system very rapidly escalates and cascades into failure, and these cables just don’t get cut.

JR McGee:           This is a very rare occurrence, and for two cables to be cut that close together, that’s very distinctly in the intelligence community. We don’t believe in coincidences, and this is more than coincidental. You combine that with the September 26th, 2022 situation where the Nord Stream gas line was cut. This could be escalating from there. But here’s the deal. Our reliance, especially in the United States on the internet, the web and the digital infrastructure, GPS, banking, transportation, electrical grid, water safety, our supply, everything hinges on our connectivity and our reliance on our digital communications. That is our weakness and that is a very serious weakness, and it’s obvious that our enemies know that and they’re already taking steps to put that at risk.

Sam Rohrer:       Well, and JR, that goes back to months ago since the Russia, Ukraine engagement 2014, where Russian submarines have been watched by US military, been commentary on many different cases about them, as you say, perhaps mapping the big cables between the United States and Europe as an example. But to what extent can you comment here? Most people probably think that our communications, our digital communications, our phones and all that kind of stuff is now happening through satellites. Are you suggesting that really probably the bulk of them are actually under the water in hard cables, not satellites.

JR McGee:           It’s not just the bulk Sam, it’s the vast majority. The fiber optic cables in these undersea cables transmit trillions of digital bytes per second. There’s no satellites in the world that can handle that load for communication throughput. These undersea cables absolutely carry the vast majority of our digital networks and our internet systems and our banking. Everything we do digitally is dependent upon those servers being connected by fiber optic cable. The satellites, they’ve got a capability, but they mostly provide timing and some secure communications transmissions. The vast majority of our communications is done by these cables, and these cables are at risk. Russia has not just mapped the major cables, Sam, they know all the cables.

Sam Rohrer:       And so if in this age, as you say, where communication is key, and we become so dependent that if an outbreak, a World War were to occur, doesn’t it seem to be from a strategic perspective, impossible that some kind of communication attack would not happen?

JR McGee:           It would be the first thing that would be attack Sam. It would be target number one, even before any other targets are attacked, you blind your enemy, then you fix the enemy, then you attack the enemy and then you conquer the enemy. That’s the order in which the battle would go, and our communications and our digital network infrastructure would be Target one.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, ladies and gentlemen, again, laying out what is actually out there happening right now and a lot is happening precipitated by Joe Biden in an exit strategy almost of slash and burn on the way out the world being set on fly. We need to know and come back. We’re going to move now to the Middle East. Well, if you’re just joining us today, I’m doing more of a special program today because of all that’s happening around the world. Our title today is this, Biden Irresponsibly Triggers Possible World War, focusing on that with special guest JR McGee, simply because if you’re looking at any news, this is a part of exactly what’s happening out there and it’s growing significantly with lots of speculation as to why did Biden do this? Why is he involved? Congress is getting involved, they’re trying to schedule a meeting to stay to the President.

Sam Rohrer:       What did you agree with, with Zelensky, with using missiles now to fire into Russia when it was already clear that Russia said, if you do this, we will view it as an act of war. So that’s the point in which we are now sitting a superpower. Russia looked to NATO now to the United States, the UK and France specifically because all of them are public in the use of their military equipment to fire into Russia. They have crossed the line. So now the world is kind of waiting and saying what’s going to happen? Alright, so this is why we’re dealing with this to bring up the latest at this point, and I’m going to move now though to the Middle East because what’s happening in Russia, in Ukraine, and now all of Europe and less than anybody listening think that the United States is immune and that whatever may happen is over.

Sam Rohrer:       There is not at all true because the enemy is here on our ground. So that’s another matter. But let’s go to the Middle East. There are reports, and I said earlier that Netanyahu was hospitalized with a serious health matter that came up about the same time that there was a indication that the Ayatollah of Iran had gone into a coma and that he had actually transferred power to his son. Now, it came out from Israeli news. That was a rumor about Netanyahu because he was actually in the Knesset making a speech meeting with the members of the Knesset at the time that that came out. So obviously it was not true. It was a rumor. The Iranian rebuttal I think appears to be less convincing. But here’s the question I have for you. What more can you share on either one of these reports and from a counter intelligence perspective, when things like this happen, when rumors are placed about leadership changes, transition and power changes, what are they actually designed to accomplish when those kinds of things are strategically placed?

JR McGee:           Well, let me answer that by starting off by saying right now, the world is a precarious situation from a global leadership perspective. You got the United States where one president’s outgoing, another president’s incoming, and the United States from a leadership perspective is not turmoil, but is in transition. Compound that with the fact that Biden is not viewed as being very strong or even capable of making significant decisions. Even when he does, I’m not sure he’s the one making them. That puts a lot of question marks out there. And then you’ve got Netanyahu, who’s attack from all different directions, both externally and internally. And then you’ve got the Ayatollah. We’ve known for years that the Ayatollah has what appears to be kidney cancer. All the indications are that he’s on a dialysis machine, et cetera, et cetera. The news that he went into a coma, he gave a speech two days before that, but that doesn’t mean that that couldn’t occur.

JR McGee:           I think that it’s likely he does have some extremely serious health considerations. I do know that he would like to see his son take over. I’m personally, this is my personal opinion, I’m not sure that his son has the leadership capability nor the reputation to assume power. If he did, I think it would be very transitory, which again makes for an unstable situation. Now, since Iran is so unstable right now from that perspective, it makes a great deal of sense for them to be the one to plant the rumors that Netanyahu is the one you got to be worried about. I view this as bad information, it’s counter propaganda. If I can make you doubt your leader, you won’t pay as much attention to the serious problems I’ve got with my leadership. So this is gamesmanship being played at the very highest level, Sam.

Sam Rohrer:       Okay? And it makes sense to me too. It just basically keeps everybody off balance expectant. Nobody can settle down and put adrenaline to rest. It’s almost like everything stays out there. So, alright, now here’s one. According to the Jewish News Service JNSI was looking at this morning, I found this on watch.org where a friend built Konik White House correspondent post information. Netanyahu has indicated that he, Israel leadership, the Knesset, he all of them, will review Iran options once Trump takes office. Now, to me that signals that a pause in major Israeli military actions toward Iran and supposedly Iran’s proxies, which would be Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis are perhaps on hold that sends a message by saying, we’re going to wait to discuss what we’re going to do for 60 days down the road until after January 20. Alright, now here’s the question of you. What are your thoughts about that from a strategic perspective? At this juncture, they’re kind of waiting on Iran to respond to their last attack, but again, strategically, what does that mean and what do you expect?

JR McGee:           There are several different layers we need to unpack from this. First and foremost, Trump’s made it very clear he wants to see an end to this Middle East conflict as do all of us. But he’s also going to give Israel far more latitude to do what they need to do in order to get the job done right as opposed to Hamstring Israel. The way that the Biden administration has been pursuing that, excuse me, here’s something interesting. The Israelis in all of their activities in Gaza and in Lebanon and Syria, they have found a lot of Russian equipment, a lot more Russian equipment than they expected to find and a lot more sophisticated equipment. The cor anti-tank missile has been around for quite some time and they expected to find a lot of those. The concourses, the nine M1 13 is a much more advanced anti-tank missile that is very effective against Israeli armor that’s been manufactured since 2020.

JR McGee:           They found a lot of those, and that’s a very dangerous weapon. From the Israelis perspective, they have found a lot of very sophisticated, very technologically advanced equipment that they didn’t expect, and they’ve had to reevaluate their entire relationship with Russia because as you know, Israel for several years has tried to maintain very friendly relationships with Russia, and they’ve not viewed them as a threat, but as a potential ally, that is all changing In the intel world. We say at the speed of stink, it’s upending a lot of the diplomacy, the diplomacy perspective, and it’s requiring them to rethink their strategy. Now, Israel’s doing something that I think is very unique. They’ve made a proposal, I don’t know if it’ll pass in the Knesset, but you’ve got to love the Israelis. They’re making a proposal that all these heavy weapons that they’re finding in Hezbollah and Gaza’s possession, they’re saying they want to ship those to Ukraine so that Ukraine can use those to defend themselves against Russia.

JR McGee:           I think that would be a remarkable turn of events and something that would have what I refer to as a delicious irony. But there’s a lot of these, they’re very capable and they would make an impact in the Ukrainian’s ability to defend themselves. So this whole thing about neutrality and relationships in the Middle East, they change daily and they change based on perceived strength, not actual strength sometimes, but perceived strength. And here’s the deal, prophecy tells you that this transition is going to develop into a full blown hostility between Israel and Russia and the alliance that Russia is going to lead against Israel when all this culminates, I see the hand of God in all of this, Sam, every bit of this is being put together in a way that leads it to the culmination of this major alliance being led by Russia against Israel.

JR McGee:           And now we’re being able to see exactly how it’s put together, how it’s coming together, how it’s going to form. Even Turkey is getting involved. I got laughed at several years for saying that Turkey was going to lead the NATO allowance. Turkey’s made it very clear. Now they’re highly hostile against Israel and very desirous to be on Russia’s team. In fact, yesterday Turkey came out and made some pronouncements on how they want to join the Russian aggression against Israel. So Erdogan wants to be a world player on this stage, and he’s using this situation to try to increase his stature. All of these things are coming together. They’re forming very rapidly. And here’s the thing, it’s accelerating. It’s not just keeping up with what’s going on, Sam. These things are accelerating and they’re accelerating in a way that is meaningful. It is strategic. There’s a plan behind it. These things are not happening at random, and they do involve and affect us here in the United States. We’ve got this propensity for saying, why should we worry about what’s happening over there in Israel? Why should we worry about what’s happening in Ukraine? All of these things have a direct impact on our security, our economy, and on our nation’s stability.

Sam Rohrer:       Absolutely, JR and ladies and gentlemen, stay with us When we come back, we’re going to talk more about Israel. We’re going to bring up some other things though that are, well, I guess confirming the adherence and the strength of the alliance of Enemies against Israel. And of course that has impacts on us here in the United States, and we’ll talk about some of those as we wrap up the program here today. We’ll be back in just a moment. Well, as we go into our final segment today, our theme, again, if you just tuned in recently, it’s Biden Irresponsibly Triggers Possible World War And this today, and my special guest, returning guest, JR McGee, I’ve done this as a special program just simply because of all that is unfolding as we speak since over the weekend, Joe Biden reversed policies that they said they would not give permission to Ukraine to actually use US equipment to go deep into Russia.

Sam Rohrer:       Well, after the election of Donald Trump and his comments about wanting to bring peace and an end to that conflict, the administration, Joe Biden, whoever tells him to do what he does, made this change. And since that point, things have really sped up. The UK and France have followed, and their equivalent missiles to our attack missiles have already been used by Ukraine against Russia. That was just a short time ago. So now you have Russia sitting viewing NATO and the United States and the UK and France of having declared war against Russia. And that’s not something that just came up. That’s something that was said long ago by Russia that if you do this, we have no other way to consider this other than you are attacking us directly. Part of the issue, ladies and gentlemen, and JR as I mentioned, even in Congressman Self from Texas, who is pursuing impeachment papers.

Sam Rohrer:       But what he’s really trying to do is get an understanding from the White House on what they told. What whoever told Zelensky he could do is that they don’t know what he has told them. And that is what is most concerning because in essence, a known line has been crossed where in fact, one could say there is a declaration of war, but the President cannot do that. And it’s so odd and dangerous for an outgoing president at this kind of a time to do this kind of thing. There’s no precedent for it, therefore there is the issue. Alright, now I just want to do that as a bit of a summary. That’s why we’re doing this today and wanting to get some comment here from jr. You already commented on this a little bit jr, but with Israel going into Lebanon, they have found a lot of Russian equipment and you’ve given indication, which I had not heard.

Sam Rohrer:       I thought it’d be an amazing thing if they were to ship all of that equipment back up to Ukraine to use against Russia. Wouldn’t that be something? But nonetheless, there is an alignment of nations already alluded to it. Turkey moving from NATO to the east. You’ve got the entire Eastern access now, which is Russia, most likely Ukraine, just a matter of weeks or whatever, they’ll be officially there. You have China, you have Iran, you have the surrogates of Iran, you have North Korea, which has already put 10,000 people on the ground, soldiers on the ground. And now they have just said, I read something where they have said that they’re going to put in a hundred thousand North Korean soldiers. So you’ve got a rapidly expanding thing from an overall perspective, the alignment of nations, biblically, we got to look at this, look back a little bit, look around at where we are, look ahead at what will be, because this kind of change we’re talking about, we’ve talked about for a long time, JR is happening, as you say, very fast.

JR McGee:           The amazing thing for me is the accuracy of the Bible. Ezekiel talked about a lot of this, and we don’t know for certain this is Ezekiel’s war, but we do know that Ezekiel’s war, all of the participants are Shia Islam nations. And that’s who is aligned against Israel today, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen and Sudan and the Houthis are attacking the United States as much as they’re attacking Iran. They continue to attack Saudi Arabia. They’re launching anti-ship missiles at the US Navy commercial ships. All of these things are just building. And you look at these players, Turkey is trying to get involved with this, and I think Turkey absolutely will get involved with this militarily, the very near future. It’s a growing alliance, but it is an anticipated alliance. And I think that if you take a look how these things developed, it really started when Barack Obama drew a red line in the sand on the chemical weapons out of Syria, and he was unable to achieve that. So he asked Russia to come back in and help. And Russia not only came back in, but Russia has rapidly assumed a very dominant role in the Middle East. And they are putting together this alliance, they’re putting together all the players against Israel. And make no mistake, they may be friendly to Israel on the surface, but they’re doing everything in their power to get Israel off the stage behind the scenes.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, now let’s go to this a bit, and you kind of alluded to it, but what appears to be coming together, a North Korea since 10,000. The West says, all right, you put 10,000 Koreans on the ground, then we’re going to have to escalate what we’re doing. So Biden approves the missiles, then North Korea comes back and says, well, we’re going to send a hundred thousand. And Russia says, well, if you do this the West, then we’re going to use tactical nuclear weapons. And then all of a sudden China appears over there in a Baltic, and as you say, may have drug, an anchor or whatever, but communication lines are cut. These coming together of these nations, Iran, Russia, North Korea, and China would appear to be in just a very, very short period of time. It almost seems impossible that it has just happened, that they’ve really had a longer perhaps negotiation going on. And this is just crystallizing it. But just a thoughts on that.

JR McGee:           Well, I think that this has been building for a long time. Some of us have been trying to tell people that this is exactly what was coming. You don’t know the day, you don’t know the time, but you can see the storm clouds gathering and you can tell that it’s going to be a thunderstorm. And you’re looking at all these things. And here’s an interesting thing. Ukraine went into Russia and the Roque region, and they forced Russia to divert a lot of resources into an area Russia didn’t intend to defend. And they’ve been remarkably good at doing that. And here’s an interesting thing. You mentioned 10,000 North Korean soldiers are in Russia now, and the numbers vary between 7,000 and 12,000. I think 10,000 is probably a good estimate. But the interesting part of all this is people are not connecting all the dots. About six months ago, Russia went to North Korea hat in hand and begged for artillery shells and North Korea gave them hundreds of thousands of 155 millimeter artillery shells.

JR McGee:           And that met a critical need because Russia was out of artillery shells. Now, North Korea is sending in troops. These are some powerful IOUs that Russia is putting into place with North Korea. And North Korea is a proxy for China. China’s controlling all of this. So when you look at this, China’s behind the scenes, it’s difficult to see their fingerprints, and that’s by design. But don’t think for a second that China is not ultimately pulling a lot of these strings. And let me put it to you this way, Russia having to go to North Korea for military help, not a good sign for Moscow. This whole thing is building. And let’s take a look back at Israel for a second.

Sam Rohrer:       Okay, we’re just about done Jr wrap it up in 10 seconds.

JR McGee:           Okay? Israel is making some major changes in how they’re prosecuting this war, both in Gaza and Lebanon. And I think you’re going to see that they are going to wait for Trump, but they’re not waiting entirely for Trump. They’re going to do everything that they can as fast as they can because they know they’ve got a limited timeframe to do it.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, ladies and gentlemen, stay tuned. This is the best information that we can give commentary wise at the moment. The scripture ultimately lays out the outcome. Let’s keep our eyes open, trust in the Lord and watch.