News, Good News, Bad News, and Painful News
Feb. 24, 2025
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Michael Snyder
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 2/24/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand and the Gap Today. A new week here and thanks for joining me today and a special guest today recurring guest, Michael Snyder. You recognize that name? He’s an attorney. He’s an economist, publisher of the economic collapse blog, end of the American Dream and the most important news, and frankly, a whole lot more. And Michael, I’m going to ask you in just a moment to tell me what else I left out of that. Okay? But Michael has a website which is filled with thorough and UpToDate analysis of headline news in short written form. That’s what he does in that setting from which when we get together in this program, we often refer, which we are today. That website is the economic collapse blog.com, so you can get information there. Now for a quick roadmap and look ahead at this week’s program today of course, is Sam Rohrer with me and the title that I’ve chosen for our conversation is This News, good News, bad News, painful News.
Now you get the flavor. We’re going to consider news and underlying news of the day as it’s reflected in a number of articles Michael’s written and posted in the past week or so. Now tomorrow, Dr. Jamie Mitchell is going to be leading his guest, ed Hardesty will be with him and their focus will be PTSD, finding Hope in Christ. I think it’ll be a very helpful program to many who are listening. On Wednesday, Dr. Bill Salas is going to join me for our bimonthly focus on Israel, the Middle East End Bible prophecy. And with everything that is happening in the Middle East, this will be an important and very pertinent program. As always, on Thursday, constitutional attorney, David New will join me again for some theme yet to be determined. We generally wait until we get closer to that day, but always relative to current issues, matters of law, particularly as they pertain to the Constitution and always with some element of American history intertwined on Friday, Dr.
Isaac Crockett will be leading this program with a special guest and special focus on the revelations of USAID, in particularly to its use and misuse by, yes, sad to say, even many religious organizations. So we’re going to deal with that. And so hopefully you’ll make a point to be with me this entire week and tuned in to this standard, the Gap Today program that starts with headline news, but then filters it through the lens of a biblical worldview. Now with that introduction, let me invite in right now. Sam Rohrer. Michael, thank you for being back with me. Your pen has been very active these last many days, so thank you for taking the time to be with me to talk about it.
Michael Snyder:
Oh, it’s a great joy to be with you, Sam. Thank you for having me on today, and we definitely have a lot to talk about.
Sam Rohrer:
We do indeed, Michael. One of the things I like about the articles you write and the conversations that we have on this program and off air as well is because you also are looking at headline news through a biblical worldview perspective. And again, we bring to it all our own personal aspect. You as an attorney and a writer and an economist, but you deal with issues that are real and then highlight the good, which I like, but also raise the areas of concern that are often embedded within them. And I do that as well because most of what we see is laced with truth in some error, and that’s why we’ve got to be careful. Now, one of the recent articles you wrote about complimented the significant exposure of massive fraud and corruption as have been exposed by DOGE. That’s an amazing thing. If the fraud was a few million or even billion dollars, well, it could be imaginable, but when the numbers are going well into the trillions of dollars, it becomes something from my perspective, almost unimaginable.
Now, here’s my question to you. It is of course, necessary and good to expose corruption and fraud to bring justice to the perpetrators. Now, how far we got into this mess though and why nothing was done for decades, that’s another issue for another day. But sadly, Michael, I think these trillions of dollars have become a very important part of what’s fueled our economy for years. And though these are stolen dollars, illegitimately spent, they are nonetheless dollars. So when you take them out, something’s got to happen. Here’s what I would like to ask you. Could you summarize this article and the good that you see and identify your concerns about the potential harmful consequences or should I say the painful consequences of taking trillions of dollars out of the economy?
Michael Snyder:
Yeah, there are definitely two sides to what we’re witnessing, Sam, because on the one hand, for those of us that are conservatives, particularly those that are fiscal conservatives, just many of us just love to see what the Department of Government efficiency is doing where they’re literally taking a meat ax to government waste and fraud and abuse. And many of us, such as myself say, wow, this is a long time coming. We’ve been dreaming of the day when someone would go in and just start going after these wasteful government programs, all this fraudulent money which is just flowing out of our government. And the things that the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk and his team have been discovering, it’s just mind blowing some of the things that have come out. For example, they discovered as they examined the payment system at the US Treasury, that over time $4.7 trillion went through the US Treasury and no one can where it went, it’s basically untraceable because there was supposed to be a code that says, okay, this went for this, this went for that.
But in the case of 4.7 trillion of spending, there was no code. So the monies basically untraceable. They don’t know where it went, they don’t know how it was spent, and that’s just inexcusable for any business, even for us as individuals. If we tried to tell the IRS, okay, IRS, I don’t know, there’s $4,700 floating around. I don’t know what happened to it. I don’t know where it came from. I don’t know where it went. Well, the IRS wouldn’t show us any mercy at all, but of course then the government’s saying, well, 4.7 trillion, we can’t explain. Well, they say, well, that’s just the way that it goes. But the good news is that the Department of Government Efficiency, they worked with the Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve, and now they’re implementing a change, a major improvement in which from now on the field that had been left blank for all these payments, it will be required.
Every payment is going to have to have this tracking code so they can know what happened to the money. And so that is a wonderful thing. And overall, so far, the Department of Government Efficiency, they say they’re telling us that so far 55 billion have been saved for the US taxpayers in terms of contracts that have been canceled. U-S-A-I-D is number one in terms of savings, in terms of contracts canceled. Number two is the Department of Education. And of course in both those agencies, there was so much that was going to DEI and climate change and other leftist policies, contracts that have now been canceled.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, Michael, I’m going to come back. I’m going to ask you another question as a follow-up in the beginning of the next segment. Then ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to go from there. That is one the exposing of the fraud, immense. We don’t know how this all going to turn out yet, but this is one big area still unfolding, but there’s another area the president has entered and that is arranging for peace, but there is war in the wind. Well, welcome back here to Stand in the Gap, and my special guest today been with me many times before, generally about once a month. Michael Snyder, he’s an attorney, an economist, a publisher of economic collapse blog, a number of books. He’s written actually nine that you can get on Amazon. The latest one is entitled Why? And it’s the book that deals more about the overwhelming evidence for the Christian faith.
Michael, I have not read that yet. I look forward to doing that. But all of that is there. You can find some of that on Amazon, his website, the economic collapse blog.com. Alright, Michael, before I go to another article that you recently wrote, dealing with Peace and War, let’s put it that way, I want to go back and have you answer one question as an economist and as a writer, is that because there are billions, 55 billion savings found, but there are trillions as you referenced, of money that have gone out of the Federal Reserve, they have been spent somewhere. These are trillions of dollars I think we’re going to find, and there’s some indication that some of that went across the world. Obviously some of that went back into the system. We know from the past probably impacting Wall Street and stock prices. There’s been a bunch of horrendous corruption that will further come forth.
But here’s the part and a painful part perhaps, but an economy is measured and it’s driven by the expenditure of funds. The socialist types thinks that government spending is the way to go. We as conservatives and free enterprise people say no private sector expenditures and spending is the best way to go, but at the end of the day, money, whether it’s the federal or the private sector, does impact the economy. So now coming to light, are trillions of dollars that have found their way into our economy that they’ll need to be cut out. Will that have and produce any kind of a painful experience perhaps for our taxpayers about which we should be aware? Speak to that. Could you please just briefly,
Michael Snyder:
Yes, and there is a flip side to this. When you include the postal workers, more than 3 million workers are employed directly by the federal government. Now thousands and thousands are being let go. I just heard that 6,000 IRS agents are being let go, which is a good thing in my view. But what’s happening now, you look at the Washington DC area, initial claims for unemployment benefits in DC went up by 36% in just one week, and the number of homes on the market has suddenly doubled. So we’re already seeing huge economic impacts in the DC area from direct government employees. Then an additional more than 7 million workers are employed by private institutions that rely on either government funding or government contracts. They’re starting to lay off workers en mass. In fact, some organizations have shut down completely because they have no more government funding. And then in addition, there are more than 20 million workers that are employed by state and local governments.
A lot of those are paid because of federal grants. Federal money comes in and funds a lot of that bureaucracy. So that gives us a grand total of more than 30 million workers that are employed in bureaucratic jobs in our economy, which is very sad, very unfortunate it needs to change. But at this point, bureaucracy is one of the central pillars of our economy. Whether we like it or not, it’s not a good thing, but that if you start to attack that pillar and that pillar starts to crumble, well, all of a sudden a lot of people don’t have jobs. They don’t have money in their pockets to spend to repair their cars or to go out to a restaurant or to spend at the stores, whatever the case might be. But this is going to have economic, as the flow of money from the government starts to slow down, it’s going to have economic ripple effects that are going to be painful for an extended period of time.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and that’s a good point. We could continue to go on that because those people ultimately are going to need to transition from government jobs, which produce nothing to private sector jobs would actually produce something, but the economy at this moment with shutting retailers and all of that, for at least a period of time, there are no private sector jobs sufficient to pick up all of these federal. So that’s part of the pain that you’re talking about. Over time, it should happen, but for at least a while, there’s going to be an issue there. That’s what you’re saying.
Michael Snyder:
Absolutely. Our economy is not prepared to absorb all these workers that are being let go and just the government funding just for years, it’s just been this party of borrowed money flowing into our economy. Since Barack Obama first entered the White House, we’ve added $26 trillion to the national debt. Now, if you were to go back and take all that spending out from all that time, we would be in a rip roaring depression. Right now, our standard of living would be way below what it is today because our government’s borrowing and spending money as if there is no tomorrow. Now that needs to change, desperately needs to change. We got to get that under control. So the changes that are happening are good, but it’s going to have an impact on our standard of living and our economy and in so many other ways.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, that’s great. Ladies and gen. I think that makes sense the way I lay it out. It’s a great consideration not being talked about, but it’s real. There are just hard economic facts. Put it out there. Let’s shift gears here, Mike, on another recent article that you wrote, you warned about something you’ve written much about for a long time. We’ve discussed it many times on this program, and that is an increasing drumbeat to war. Now, from a prophetical perspective, Christ warning Matthew 24, he says that in the days in which we live, there would be increasing wars and rumors of wars, makes it very pertinent. And in this time, we would also witness a converging and an increasing frequency and velocity of not just wars and rumors of wars, but also pestilence of various types that includes food issues and all of that increasing groaning of the earth as in earthquakes and volcanic action, changing weather.
All of this in the context of incredible deception. Jesus said, be careful. You write about all of these, but there’s another one there I think about according to the book of Daniel. It also talks about these days would be marked by an historic explosion in knowledge and communication of that knowledge such as we’re witnessing today. And I look at that and I say, wow, artificial intelligence certainly plays into that. So bottom line, things are changing all around us. Now, with that being said, the President and his effort to bring peace in Ukraine is literally changing the lay of the land between the United States and Russia, which as of just last week, they normalize their relations with the United States. There’s big things happening there, relations shapes are changing with China. But you combined a number of these things in a recent article. Summarize the reason for writing this article, the points you made in the conclusion, in response that you offered.
Michael Snyder:
Yeah, these are very complex issues, and the reason I’ve been writing about it is try to get people to understand once again, we have the good and we have the bad. The good is President Trump wants to bring peace to Ukraine. He wants that war to end. That is a good thing. We should be cheering peace, which is so ironic because the mainstream media and so many people in Europe are saying, no, no, they don’t like what Trump is doing, but we should want peace if it’s possible. For years, I’ve been saying the Biden administration and Russia should sit down and talk and see if there’s a peaceful way out of this mess. Now, Trump wants to do that. They haven’t negotiated anything yet, but they’re saying, let’s put us on a path to negotiations if they’re possible. And I think that’s a great development now, but what that’s prompted is we’re seeing a meltdown in Europe.
European leaders are going nuts. They’re saying, no, we want to keep fighting the Russians till we win, and now Trump’s abandoning Ukraine. And so in the UK now they’re openly talking about, Hey, we’re going to have to go all out to help Ukraine because Trump’s not going to do it. And they’re even talking about, Hey, we might have to send troops. In fact, there was just a BBC article saying that the British army is ready if they’re called on to be deployed to Ukraine. It’s just madness. And in fact, one very prominent voice, military leader in the UK said, Hey, we’ve got to start conscription. We basically saying, we’ve got to start drafting people to send to Ukraine. It is nuts, but that’s how Europe is responding to this. And of course, we’ve seen this breakdown of relations between the United States and Ukraine now where the Trump administration has sent a contract to Zelensky saying, Hey, if we continue to support you, we want some mineral rights.
We want some economic rights in Ukraine. Then Ukraine didn’t like that at all. And so Trump sent, we just found out, Trump sent us treasury secretary, Scott Besant to talk to Zelinsky about this, and Zelensky wouldn’t meet with them. He Bessant was told, oh, Zelinsky sleeping. He doesn’t have time to meet with you that upset Trump. So then Trump made some negative remarks about Ukraine, and then Zelensky in response said, Trump is living in a disinformation space and started to badmouth Trump. And we all knew that what that was going to do. And then Trump, of course, went on true social and just ripped into Zelensky, called him a dictator and a whole bunch of other things. And so now we have a total breakdown of basically relations between the Trump administration and Zelensky. And that’s going to make it very difficult to negotiate peace with the Russians.
If Ukraine is saying, Hey, we’re not going to go along with anything that Trump says, but then it’s also pushing Europe and that, particularly the British talking about deploying troops in Ukraine. Now, if the British do that, Sam, the Russians have already said, not only are the British troops, of course, if they’re on the front lines, their targets, but British military targets outside of Ukraine will be fair game. Now, imagine what happens if Russian missiles start falling inside British territory, hitting military targets. There’s no way the US will be able to stay out of the conflict then. So in my view, Sam, this has actually pushed us closer to global war, world War iii, whatever you want to call it. So I’m extremely concerned about the instability of what we’re witnessing.
Sam Rohrer:
And Michael, I share that with you because it’s like a sword. It cuts on one side and maybe helps on the other side. But we are in a time, particularly when things become personal as they have between the president and Zelensky, now you have personalities and all that begin to happen. Unexpected events take place, ladies and gentlemen. That’s the point. Change is happening, being forced, being encouraged, being threatened, one hand or the other, but with those kind of things come unexpected events, we come back, we’re going to shift to another item. Well, welcome back ladies and gentlemen. We’re halfway through the program right now, and again, my theme today is news, good news, bad news, painful news. We’re talking about news. All of those things I mentioned are things that we’re surrounded with. And as my special guest today, Michael Snyder, who’s been with me a number of times, we’re looking at some of the more recent articles that he has written and can find them all, and the economic collapse blog.com website.
But Michael, because you focus so much on economic factors, I want to revisit another aspect of what we’ve already been talking about, and that is the exposure of so much fraud. And I ask you at the beginning of the last segment, because there are so many, yes, billions, yes, trillions of dollars that have flowed through the system illegitimately, but they have flowed. They have contributed to our debt, which is 36 trillion, as you said it was, what’d you say? When Obama came in, it was, what’d you say, Michael, about what the debt was when Obama came in? What’d you say?
Michael Snyder:
When Barack Obama first entered the White House, we were about $10 trillion in debt. Now we’re 36 trillion.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, alright, so ladies, you get that. So we have now spent, these monies have been spent. Whatever we save through the findings of Doge will help us going forward. But this money’s already been spent. So we’re already in debt. We owe somebody this 36 trillion, 26 trillion since Obama, and it was known in the past during Obama days. Michael, I remember him saying at that one point, Pentagon said they didn’t know where 2 million at least was. They didn’t know where it was. And I thought, are you kidding me? So money has been lost and unaccounted for a long time. That’s why I say that’s another issue of why in the world nothing was done before. But alright, let’s hope and pray that what is being done now will come to a good conclusion. But here’s the question I want to bring back up at this point. Even though this corrective action taking place for which we have all hoped and prayed, and it appears to be, and I pray that it moves to the point of prosecution where the perpetrators are actually brought to justice.
If that doesn’t happen, then maybe we’re playing some games, but let’s pray that that takes place because that’s where it needs to go. But we’re already in debt. So there are already consequences to a nation and debt. As much as we are doing what’s needing to be done can help going forward. But there’s already the tumor to some degree has already metastasized. I suppose you could say there are consequences, but here would be the question. Now we’re going into social security fraud, big numbers, and everybody knows that. How many people over a hundred are being paid? That kind of thing. And possibilities. Now, the suggestion was made last week by a number of people. The president has weighed in that perhaps even up to a $5,000 citizen reward, more or less for Doge, finding all the fraud be turned back to the people. I look at that and I say, boy, what a fantastic thing. It makes sense. That would be an economic stimulus. It absolutely would. But point being, there are a lot of moving pieces. Alright. What do you see on the home front? Do you see all of these pieces right now moving in such a way that it stabilizes what we now see in front of us?
Michael Snyder:
Well, I think what we’re seeing is a potential destabilization, because you mentioned social security, and this is huge, and this is something that Democrat politicians keep bringing up prominent leaders in the Democratic Party and they keep saying, oh, Trump and Musk, they’re going to take away your social security from you. And then people like us listen to that and say, no, they’re not. They’ve said they’re not going to cut Social Security and Medicare. They’re not going to take away our payments. So that’s a false statement, but in a twisted way, it is actually true for at least some of the constituents of the Democratic party because of the fraud. Because if we stop the fraud that’s coming through Social Security and Medicare, that’s another big one. But if we stop the fraud and to the illegal immigrants, social security. In fact, Elon Musk the other day, he posted a video of a whistleblower, someone that had been working under the Biden administration directly with illegal immigrants, and she’s a whistleblower.
She came out and she said, Hey, we were instructed to ask these people as they were coming into the country, oh, does your head hurt? Does your back hurt? Trying to find any possible justification to put them on Social security disability. They were instructed to issue social security numbers to them and to put them on Social security disability, which would set them up for life, basically receiving thousands of dollars per month for the rest of their lives just as they’re coming into this country. They’re not even US citizens. So someone needs to be held accountable for that. That’s just incredible. And this is something, a video that Elon Musk and others were sharing on Twitter the other day, but that’s just mind blowing to me, just the corruption that we witnessed. But now, okay, this is what is, as the Department of Government efficiency goes in and Trump said, Hey, we’re going to stop any payments.
In fact, he just signed an executive order throughout the whole government payments going to illegal immigrants, we’re going to stop them. Okay, so now we’ve got over time, over the decades we’ve had tens of millions, some say 20 million, some say 30 million. There’s different numbers, but it’s millions upon millions of illegal immigrants which have come into this country illegally. And many of them have been getting money and benefits from the federal government, from government agencies, and now all that’s going to be cut off according to Trump’s executive order. These people are going to be really angry. And that’s not even talking about the fraud of, and I would suggest mainly on the left of people that have been getting payments through these programs, social security, Medicare, other government programs, fraudulently. And of course we’ve by now all seen the numbers that Elon Musk has released approximately, according to the Social security system, there are approximately 20 million social security numbers for Americans that are a hundred years of age or older that are eligible to receive payments. But according to Census Bureau, there’s only about a hundred thousand Americans that are actually a hundred years of age or older. So something doesn’t add up there. So if all these fraudulent payments start getting cut off and all of a sudden people aren’t getting their government checks every month, Sam, people are going to be angry. And it’s almost, in my view, it’s going to be primarily almost totally people on the left that are going to be furious now that their government checks are being cut off.
Sam Rohrer:
In addition to that, I think it was last Thursday, maybe Wednesday night of last week, the president signed that executive order, which you’re talking about that would stop welfare benefits, financial assistance. There are about 20 different programs. I’m looking at earned income, tax credit, student loans, Pell Grants, head Start, public Housing, Medicaid, Medicare, and the list goes on. Most all of that money, Michael runs through the states and the states actually end up handing it out. So the stopping of these funds, and he’s ordered every agency and every department to stop anything that’s flowing through them that goes to somebody that’s not a citizen. I say to that, yay, that needs to be, they should have never had it to begin with, but also it’s going to mean millions and millions of dollars that have been going to the states that they love to take in handout. They also are not going to be able Now, all of that is what you’re saying. And I asked the question, is it stabilizing the home front or as you’re saying in the least in a temporary, there’s a lot of destabilization because these are big changes
Michael Snyder:
For so long, Sam. And even during the first Trump administration, because when Trump first came in his first term, he was just constantly dealing with scandals and impeachments and in crisis after crisis, and then the pandemic came and he didn’t have time to go into these government agencies and get them under control. So even during his first term, but literally for decades, the federal government has been a giant money machine, primarily through these government agencies, run by liberals, run by Democrats, run by leftists, and they kept hiring more leftists under them. So some of these agencies basically became a giant ball of leftists, basically handing out money, signing up people for government programs, feeding money to illegal immigrants. And then during the Biden administration past four years, I mean it just went to the levels we’ve never seen before. Now all of a sudden that money’s cut off for the left.
This is basically a financial Armageddon with their organizations that were swimming in. Money leftist organizations cut off climate change, cut off DEI, groups cut off, illegal immigrants cut off. So we’ve already started seeing, in fact, on President’s Day, there were protests all over the country. We’re seeing protests. People are getting angry because for the left, billions upon, billions upon billions of dollars are at stake and are now being cut off. For those of us that are conservatives, we weren’t getting this money anyway. We weren’t involved in the fraud. It doesn’t make a difference to us. And we just we’re cheering on, yeah, cut the fraud, cut the abuse, we love it. But on the other side, there is so much anger is rising, and I think as this goes on, we’re going to see tremendous civil unrest in this country, Sam?
Sam Rohrer:
Yeah, I think so. Because at least it’s cultivates the ground for that kind of thing, unrestrained by people conforming themselves to God’s law. They will respond that way. So supporting what you are saying. Ladies, stay with us. When we come back, we’re going to shift to one other area I’m calling, shaking ground, shrinking food signs in the skies. Well, welcome back. We’re going to go into our final segment now. Michael, it’s been great to have you aboard today. As always. Again, if you’re just joining us, Michael Snyder is my guest. He’s the composer, writer of the economic collapse blog.com. That’s a website there, but writes on a whole breadth of articles. I just picked several today that were in each of our segments. One, two, and three was built off of an article written in that area. So if you want to go back, you can go back and listen to the program, you’ll see where that came from.
If you go to the website, you can find the actual article. I encourage you to do so. But Michael, there’s another one, and it’s more than we could get on the program here, but there’s another area that I’m entitling in this segment because these are items about which you have written, we’ve spoken in past programs about some of these individually, but there’s the area wars, rumors of wars. I said that when you talked about that. That comes right off of Matthew 24. It’s an area that Lord says to be aware. Deception, yes, economic issues. The Bible speaks all about that. And there are consequences for what you do that’s in blessings for good and consequences negative for those when you go in debt and all those kinds of things. The Bible speaks to all of these and you write about them. So there’s an area that’s also at Matthew 24 talks about pestilence, that’s health related items, but it’s also bugs.
It’s also those kinds of things that eat up crops that comes out of that is hunger. So there’s food associated that with health talks about earthquakes, ground shaking, volcanic action. Then we’ve talked in the past about signs in the skies because Bible does refer to that. So let’s link some of these right now. I’d like you to speak just briefly because you’ve written on all of these and even recently, let’s take this first one about pestilence and food. Update us on the most pertinent occurrences in this arena of pestilence and food because it’s not just eggs. There’s a shortage of, but it’s broader than that. So speak to this issue briefly and then we’ll move on to earthquakes, volcanic activity and so forth.
Michael Snyder:
Most people know that the price of eggs is far higher than it used to be. It’s gone just absurd levels. And some retailers around the country, such as Costco are now rationing. They’re saying, you can only have so many eggs each customer, would there be egg shortage in this country? This is really the worst we’ve ever experienced, but a lot of people out there, they know it’s a bird flu, but they don’t know specifically why. Well, the why is because a new strain, a new strain of H five N one has come along and become dominant. Up until from early 2022 until fairly recently, it was the B 3.13 strain, which was at least somewhat mild, but it had killed, according to the government, more than 153 million poultry have been wiped out in this country since early 2022. But now a new more deadly strain has come along D 1.1, and it’s just been ripping through egg laying farms all over the country.
And that’s why now it’s gotten so much worse with the price of eggs and the egg shortages. But now it’s jumped over into the cattle. It’s been detected in cattle in Nevada and cattle, particularly in California. There’s been lots of cattle dying in California, but now it’s now in Nevada. This new strain, this deadlier new strain has been detected in cattle in Nevada. And that’s alarming, Sam, because the size of the US cattle herd is now the smallest it’s been since 1961. But if you go back to 1961, there are 182 million people living in the United States today. We’ve got 334 million people living in the United States. So we’ve got nearly twice as many people, but the same amount of cattle we had back in 1961. So that’s a concern, especially if this new strain of the bird flu starts spreading widely in cattle. And of course there’s concern about it potentially jumping into humans as well.
The elderly victim that died from the bird flu in Louisiana actually had the D one one strain, the teenager in Canada that almost died of the bird flu. That was also the D one one strain. So it appears that the D one one strain, if it gets into humans, is a lot more severe than the B 3.13 strain when it got into humans, which is mostly causing relatively mild symptoms. So this is something we want to watch closely. And all of a sudden eggs are a huge national issue. In fact, someone recently stole a hundred thousand eggs from the back of a trailer in Pennsylvania, and the police say, we don’t know what happened to it. Somehow they got away with a hundred thousand eggs. No one was able to catch them. I don’t know how they did it. They must’ve been pretty good thieves.
But that’s interesting. Now, another thing you mentioned was signs in the sky. I wanted to quickly mention that this is very interesting, Sam, because we all know October 7th, 2023 war erupted in the Middle East, Hamas terrorists invaded Israel. And following that, we’ve got this very unusual sequence of blood moons on Purim for three years in a row. And now Perim is the festival in the Bible that’s most associated with conflict, particularly it’s you read the book of Esther and the setting is Iran Persia, and it was involved the enemies of Israel trying to wipe the people of Israel completely out. But then Israel got the upper hand. So it’s the one festival in the Bible that was basically birthed out of conflict, birthed out of war. And of course, throughout history, blood moons have been associated with war. So now we have blood moons associated with war with the biblical festival most closely associated with war.
And we’ve got blood moons happening on Perham. It was the second day of Perham last year in 2024, upcoming this year. It’s the first day of Perham. Next month there’s another blood moon, and there’s a blood moon on the first day of Purim in 2026. So a lot of people saying, this is very, very interesting. We were in this season of war, particularly in the Middle East with Israel confronting their enemies. And at the exact same time, we’ve got blood moons three years in a row on this biblical festival, Purim, which is mostly closely associated with war. So Pastor Sam, some people look at that and say, oh, it doesn’t mean anything. Other people look at it and say, well, it looks like it could mean something. But we are certainly in a season of wars and rumors of wars as these things are going on in the heavens.
Sam Rohrer:
And Michael, it’s the convergence of these things since the Lord himself said to watch for the things in this area of deception and increasing reference to wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes and volcanic activity and pestilence, as all of them mentioned, it’s not inappropriate. Matter of fact, it would be not biblically obedient not to consider these things. So I put that out and say, thank you for watching these areas because we’re told to watch these areas not to be concerned about them, ladies and gentlemen. So as that we become paralyzed, no, no, no, because God has not given us a spirit of fear. And God says these things must happen. So don’t be perplexed. But do note that when these things begin to occur in increased, well speed, frequency, velocity, like a woman in childbirth, you’re approaching this time. That’s what Jesus said. So therefore that’s what we need to do. And Michael, thank you for taking it, writing on him. We just don’t have enough time to go anywhere else. But is that website I gave economic collapse blog.com? Is that the right one? Or do you have another site for people to go to?
Michael Snyder:
Yeah, that’s great. Or if people want to get all my research as soon as I publish it, write in their email inbox. You can go to Michael T. Snyder dot substack.com and sign up for the emails. And then my new book you mentioned earlier, Sam, which is all about evidence for the Christian faith, an amazing witnessing tool. If you know someone that’s unsaved, if the hour is late, you want them to be with you. Once you get to heaven, you want to see them saved. Well, my new book is an incredibly powerful witnessing tool. It’s entitled Why You Can find it on amazon.com.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and with that, Michael, we’re at the end of the program. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us today. Again, go to our website, our app, stand in the Gap, or stand in the gap.com website. Pick up this program. You can pick up a transcript to it, read through it, listen to it again, lots of information here, and then visit these websites as well. Let’s keep working and walking forward in the truth.
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