Synergistic Healthcare and More:

Observations from a Frontline Doctor

April 30, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Dr.  Gordon Donaldson

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 4/30/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand In the Gap Today. And as I announced on this Monday program when I presented the latest information on what is now an officially confirmed and longstanding practice, generally known as chem trails or chemical trails, this practice is also officially described in legislative terms or legal terms and technical settings as geoengineering or weather mitigation or as I shared in Monday’s program, the more accurate description of man playing God with the weather, which is really what it is. Well then Dr. Lee Vliet of Truth for Health Foundation, who was my guest on Monday, then she provided some confirming additional information from an historical and medical perspective on that issue as to the grave impacts on the health of people of this practice, which was begun after World War II by the CIA and Department of Defense, as was said on the program as an effort to effectively weaponize the weather for military purposes.

But it’s long been gaslighted as we know, described as they would say, oh, it’s just a conspiracy theory. Yet now in 24 states, which we mentioned all of them on that program, legislation is now pending to outlaw this experimental and truly devastating practice that is being done not only by our government, but other governments of the world as well, and really being pursued hotly as we speak in England or the UK. My program today, as I mentioned then will not be on this subject specifically, but still on the subject of health. But today from a frontline doc, my own personal physician, Dr. Gordon Donaldson, who was with me last in February of this year on the theme of revisiting the Covid experience. And you can go and you can pick up that program, you can find it in our archives, and if you did not catch it, you will want to do it.

We’ll refer to it briefly today, but a lot of information in that program. Well today is an update in my series on news from the frontline that I’m calling it in this case from a frontline independent God-fearing, and I’m going to say Hippocratic Oath keeping frontline doc who quite accurately reflects the other similar minded family physicians across the country who I’m going to tell you without them, we would truly be in a third rate nation when it comes to healthcare. Now that being said, the title I’ve chosen to frame today’s program is this Synergistic Healthcare and More Observations from a Frontline Doc. And with that, Dr. Gordon Donaldson, you’re sitting right here beside me in the studio, not often to guests are they here, but it’s great to have you back again.

Gordon Donaldson:

Well, Sam, it is great to be back here with you and with your listening audience,

Sam Rohrer:

Gordon, in the segment today, I’d like to get a current update from you on what you and of the frontline docs are actually seeing in regard to patient health. Now, in the next segment after this, want to get your input on what you are experiencing in regard to challenges facing you and other proper healthcare docs in regard to patient care. And then in segments three and four, we’ll get into this matter of synergistic versus the other healthcare, and we’ll describe that and why that’s a real issue. And I think all of you listening may stay tuned because you will find this to be extraordinarily relevant, let’s put it that way. Okay, Gordon, when you were with me in February, you said then that patient illness and that for which you were doing, I’m going to say the predominant, I think I remember a 70% number or whatever, you can confirm that, but amount of treatment you were having to direct and deal with your patients as a direct result of the covid shot and specifically spike protein and the detrimental effects of inflammation that it was creating. Now that’s what I believe you said back then. With that in mind, is that still the case? Is that what you are still seeing? And if not, what are you seeing other significant observations that you can make about patient health?

Gordon Donaldson:

Well, yes, absolutely. And for the sake of not just beating a dead horse, it is directly related to the spike protein in the form of those who got the shot, they’re producing the spike protein, and those who did not get the shot are being exposed to the spike protein that is being shed by those who did get the shot. But yes, patients continue to be sicker more frequently for extended periods of time. The illnesses require more aggressive treatment and pharmaceuticals. There’s a decrease in the overall quality of people’s health Constantly that I hear, oh, fatigue, brain fog, lack of energy, these would all point to a mitochondrial dysfunction, which are the engines for ourselves and spike protein attacks, that there’s a significant increase in autoimmune diseases that points to the body attacking itself. I hear regularly from patients and just yesterday, people who they know being diagnosed with cancer and when it’s diagnosed, it’s already metastatic or spread to other parts of the body.

And the major area that I see a lot is autonomic dysfunction. And Sam and I were just talking about this as before, and that is, it’s a dysfunction in the nervous system that we don’t have a control over. And so patients with palpitations, heart rhythm issues that can be life-threatening, numbness and extremities, vertigo, dizziness, bowel, irritability, vision problems. And to kind of go back interestingly to what Sam talked about with Dr. Lee lead and what’s in our environment, and then also last week with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny with the vaccines, and that is there is only one difference between the chemicals that we put in our environment and that which is put into our bodies and that is its intended use, whereas that which is put into the environment does not have to reach the scrutiny that which is put into our bodies does. But does it still have the same detrimental effects? Absolutely, it can. And so that’s really important to understand that what is out there and how it is framed, which we’re going to get into as we go along here. Okay, Gordon,

Sam Rohrer:

People, sick, sick, longer, more extreme cases, all that kind of thing. In reality, some of the things that you mentioned there, brain fog and that kind of thing that people have fatigue. It’s not that people have never been fatigued. So what you’re dealing with right now, is it really truly new and different or perhaps are we just looking at it more carefully?

Gordon Donaldson:

Well, no, it is absolutely new and different and it’s at a different level. That’s the other thing where people, yeah, you don’t have a good night’s sleep, so yeah, the next day you’re going to be fatigued, you’re going to have a little more brain fog. But in this situation, it’s a constant. That’s kind of the difference of how what we’re seeing is patients complain, I just feel this way all the time. And so that I believe was intended because where does it end up more treatment from?

Sam Rohrer:

Wow. And we’re going to talk about that. More treatment, more dependency, sicker generally people less independent, more dependent. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. Our theme today is this synergistic healthcare. We’re going to define that in segment three. And next I’m going to talk with my special guest, my own personal physician, Dr. Gordon Donaldson, on what he and other frontline docs are experiencing as the greatest challenges to them as good docs helping sick patients. If you’re just joining us today, welcome aboard. This is a health focused program, and I don’t generally do this where I have a recurring theme. On Monday, we dealt with a health issue. If you just joined us, go back and listen to the program on chem trails. We call it chemical trails, weather modification. Dealt with that because that is now out there fully cannot be denied. But that’s the first time I dealt with that issue on this program a week ago, Dr.

Sherry Tenpenny, we dealt with the issue of vaccines because that’s out there and it has always been around, well, not always because vaccines haven’t always been around, but since the point they have been, that is an issue we dealt with that you’re going to want to get both of those programs if you miss them because it will help significantly in understanding areas that confront us regularly, but for which we generally are not provided the truth. Today, the theme is synergistic healthcare and more observations from a frontline doc. That frontline doc who’s sitting here beside me is Dr. Gordon Donaldson. He’s with me in the studio today. He’s been with me before and done other programs. And so with that being said, we’re moving from what he’s identifying as the greatest contributors to patient health or affecting patient health. Talk about that last segment. Now we’re going to talk about the matter of challenges to him and all healthcare providers who are independent and are patient focused.

Let’s put it that way. Now, literally for decades, since the early days of, I’m going to say Hillary care because I experienced that first one, I was in the Pennsylvania House, this has been around for a long time. It’s been incremental. It’s been like a cancer really in the attempt to take over healthcare. But the move then went to an increased federal government role, began way back in healthcare. It expanded incrementally, really expanded under Obamacare. And then the role, as we know became even bigger and more obvious in maybe some of the do things that are being uncovered. But the role of big pharma, big government, big insurance, and along with it, bigger corruption, or let me say bigger corruption started and all these things became bigger perhaps, but it’s only increased now what few people know. But what’s been shared on this program by my guest today, Dr. Gordon Donaldson, and then for instance, like Twila Braze of Citizens Council for Health Freedom, who’s with me regularly and other superb guest, is that there is a concerted drive to squash independent physicians, independent clinics where doctors own them, not hospitals or great big consortiums, independent pharmacies.

And literally to force everyone into my word, a bribed and corrupted system where they are dependent on somebody big down the road who thinks they know more. Now, just a couple of days ago, a local pharmacy in our area, an independent pharmacist, well-liked, huge customer base, closed his doors in his independent pharmacy. Why? Well, because of weaponized practices of insurance companies who are continuing to reduce their reimbursements and payments to providers like him, literally forcing them the independence to close their doors. Alright, now Gordon, I just cite this example of which you are aware, but this independent pharmacist, but this is happening across the board. You’re being impacted. I’d like you to share to what degree are challenges like this and others, what challenge is put up that way? Are you facing as an independent family physician and by so doing as you speak, I know you’re speaking on behalf of independent physicians all across the country.

Gordon Donaldson:

Absolutely. And it’s kind of funny that you say that in a sense, sometimes it isn’t funny, but as I was staying independent, my old residency director, when I would see him at a meeting or something, he would say, well, how’s the dinosaur doing? And that’s the way we feel out here we’re the dinosaurs. But hopefully making a little bit of a comeback because of the environment. But to get to your question, and I do not say this as sour grapes, but it is the reality of our world in the independent world. And that is, as you said, we are being squeezed and it is mostly by the insurance industry through reimbursement reduction. And in doing that, they make more profit. But really the big driver is Medicare. Medicare, all the independent insurance companies operate off of what Medicare does. So it comes out of government.

So since 2001, our reimbursement from Medicare is down almost 30%. And this year alone, we’re squeezed at 2.85% if something doesn’t change. So in my practice, I try to work up a patient as much as I can to diagnose a problem. If I believe the patient needs to have a certain study done, it can become a major exercise in jumping through hoops to get it approved. And the insurance companies make it extremely difficult. They’ll inappropriately deny it, even though there is legitimate reason to get it. They’ll force the patient to go through lengthy series of other treatments like medicines, physical therapy, chiropractic or other modalities before they will even consider approving a study. The insurance companies use other third party for-profit companies to do their approval process. And so the employees, when you call them, and our nurses can sit for hours on the phone just to talk to somebody and they’re just following an algorithm on a screen. And when it comes to getting appointments with the specialist, it can be even worse where the average wait time to get in with a doctor can be months. So usually one has to get in with a mid-level provider first. Now don’t get me wrong, I work with mid-level providers and they are good, but the specialists don’t have any real incentive. Can I ask you just to find that when you say a mid-level provider,

Sam Rohrer:

What is that?

Gordon Donaldson:

So basically you’re talking about two people. You’re talking about nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Those are your main mid-level providers.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay,

Gordon Donaldson:

Yeah,

Sam Rohrer:

Go ahead. I’m sorry.

Gordon Donaldson:

So then the specialists don’t really have an incentive to care for the state or the patient. I mean if a patient’s in severe pain, well we’ll see you next month or whatever, and in the meantime, the family practitioner or whoever the primary care is left holding the bag until they can get in to see the specialist. And so it becomes a very frustrating situation for patients and for the doctors who want their patients to be cared for in an appropriate way. So it’s not that specialists are bad, we need them to do things that we can’t do in a primary care office. But the other thing it becomes frustrating also is because of the insurance industry and how they are limiting, forcing us to jump through hoops, it has caused me with certain insurances, I actually have to send the patient to a specialist in order for them because the specialist usually, once they’re in with the specialist, they have a little better inroad to getting whatever needs to be done. And when it’s appropriate, the specialists get it, but we on a primary care level can’t get it done.

Sam Rohrer:

But Gordon, isn’t it still the case that for a patient to be diagnosed and gotten into the system of treatment, they’ve got to go through somebody like you, a family physician to do the initial and then they’re passed off to somebody else down the road, right? I mean you’re still the one that must do the evaluation and come up and certify that indeed this person is sick and is deemed worthy of some kind of additional treatment, right?

Gordon Donaldson:

Absolutely. And so the problem is we’re getting back into a situation where the primary care is basically becoming a referral.

Sam Rohrer:

Ah, that’s not where I want to go. See, that is critical because now the insurance industry, they’re basically using you as the gatekeeper but not allowing you to do what you as a family physician should do or the patient expects to have done.

Gordon Donaldson:

Exactly. And for me, because I’ve been around in this as we would say rodeo for long enough that I feel very comfortable in being able to work with patients if I know what the underlying problem is. And as we get into the third and fourth segment, that’s where synergistic care versus the siloed care makes a big difference because I can do things or I can direct a patient if I know what’s going on, but the problem is if I can’t get to that bottom line source of where the issue is, then it becomes more problematic and I’m forced to push them off to the specialist, which then again, what does that do? Drives up income for the healthcare conglomerates because they do more studies. And anytime when a patient is sent off to the specialist, I guarantee you they will have more studies done than ever because for example, a patient who hits the emergency room, it is amazing how a patient can go in there for a urinary tract infection. They said they were a little lightheaded. Well, and they could have been because of their infection and they get worked up with a CAT scan, a heart monitor, a cardiac ultrasound, all kinds of blood work. When the reality was that dizziness was simply, if you think of the patient as a whole, it was simply a result of their urinary tract infection. That’s all that really needed to be treated.

Sam Rohrer:

So boy, we’re too close end of the break here to get into another big direction, but the result of this is because of these hoops that you’re talking about and the effort to continually to shrink your reimbursement. Don’t you think these guys know that you’re being squeezed and the care ultimately is being compromised? Yes, they do.

Gordon Donaldson:

And it will come as we address it in the following segment. This goes back to way, way back with the Rockefellers and how they actually intended siloed care to be the way to go because they could make more money on it.

Sam Rohrer:

Here we go again, follow the money, ladies and gentlemen, and think about this. Think about this. All of this is happening because Medicare is now setting the standard for prices in healthcare and Medicare is coming out of the government, it’s socialized medicine. Oh, you need to say, wow, isn’t that something? Yeah, the government’s not even supposed to be involved in medicine according to constitution. That’s not their job. It’s the states and the local, the physician and the patient, which is what we talk about a lot. Stay with us. We’ll come back and talk about synergistic healthcare. What in the world is that? Well, Dr. Gordon Donaldson, it’s great to have you in the studio today and be able to actually look you right in the eye. So when you look me in the eye, your obvious is probably diagnosing me as well. But you look well to me.

So anyway, well, I’m not the doctor, but as we move from what you were just talking about, the challenges that are facing frontline docs, you said primarily, but not exclusively insurance companies who are adjusting rates downward ever more and forcing independent providers of all type out of business, but primarily coming from government, Medicare setting the standard, and then all of this collaboration that really develops between big pharma, big government, big insurance and big this and big that. And whenever it’s big, big, big like that, it always means little patient, little freedom and constrained physicians. In this case, it’s just the way it works out now that’s his comment. But let’s move on to this matter of synergistic healthcare. You made a comment, you just referenced Rockefeller, most people think Rockefeller oil and gas and all of that kind of thing, but we’ll pick up on that.

Stay with us ladies and gentlemen, you’ll get that. But in a discussion with you, Gordon, just the other day, you referenced a term describing an overall approach, I’m going to say to the provision of healthcare, and you used the word synergistic, synergistic healthcare, and you contrasted this when we were discussing to another approach to healthcare, which I know literally every one of our listeners, you will understand this and that is siloed or tunneled healthcare. So you get the idea. I think understanding these two approaches is critical. Let’s get into that right now. What do you mean by synergistic healthcare? And of course compare, contrast that to siloed or tunneled healthcare.

Gordon Donaldson:

So basically as we go into that, as you and I also, let’s talk definition, what is synergism? Synergism is when you take multiple things and they work together for a betterment or a better outcome or a better treatment. And so to this, when it comes to talking about it here with healthcare synergism is when we look at how the different parts of a whole body work together for the betterment of that individual. That’s very scriptural. We talk about it, the body of Christ, you can’t work individually. And so that’s the holistic approach. You have to look at the big picture. You have to look at how things work in tandem with one another to make things better. Siloing on the other side is when we compartmentalize the body parts or we put them into a different bucket, each part is put in a different bucket or as Sam mentioned, it’s tunneled.

And that’s the specialized approach. That’s what specialization does. And that’s when we send a patient off and the average patient now has between three and five specialists that they are seeing. So it can be if they have arthritis or rheumatologist, if they have a heart issue, it’s a cardiologist. If they have a lung issue, it’s a pulmonologist. If they have diabetes or thyroid, it’s an endocrinologist. So all these specialists, but every time that happens when you go to a specialist, they don’t sit down in a team meeting and talk about the patient as a whole. And so when they’re compartmentalized, then it is easier to do more studies. Each time you send them to a specialist, they do more studies, new, more blood work, more, and then they get into the pharmacy and this. So going back to, so this goes back to how the medical education was set up.

And the real turning point in that was in 1909 with the Flexner report, the Flexner report came out and said this is how medical education should go down. And interestingly enough, the Flexner report was written by Rockefeller’s attorney and it was first put into place at Johns Hopkins Medical School. And that’s where they really developed the multispecialty residencies and things like that. Because what they understood was if you take it away from the holistic and the broad approach to treating someone, then they came up with the term, well, that’s alternative medicine or that’s pseudoscience medicine. And by doing so, they knew that if more prescriptions were written by the specialists, well they made more money because the pharmaceutical industry comes out of the oil industry. And that was Rockefeller’s big thing. It was also a way to alienate those so that it drove patients away from somebody who was a quote snake oil salesman or practicing snake oil medicine and getting away from that.

So our major medical schools even today still operate on those principles from that report to the extent that for example, Harvard, Stanford and other prestigious medical schools are funded up to 80% by the pharmaceutical industry. Another major problem is that we spend 96% of our biomedical research on medical drugs and devices that can comprise only 13% of the total healthcare costs and only 4% on the remaining 87% of healthcare costs to deal with chronic diseases to make our population healthier and deliver efficient healthcare. So there’s a simple reason that now we have this medical industrial complex and anything that’s associated with an industrial complex that simply means it’s all about the money and profit bottom line. And so it’s to maximize the profits to return to the investors when they won’t get that if studying the things that promote healthy diets and lifestyles. So when a new drug gets approved, and this was done in Germany, they looked at drugs approved between 2011 and 2017, only one in four was materially better than the previous available less expensive ones, which were the very true ones that I use a lot of.

And we go back, we talk about repurposed drugs and that’s a huge thing, but that’s what gets poo-pooed by the pharmaceutical industry and gets put down like ivermectin, like hydroxychloroquine. And so in spite of that, all the money being spent in the US on healthcare, which is more than twice as much as any other industrialized country, we are less healthy with more chronic illnesses and a shorter life expectancy. The turning point was 2014 and that’s when in the United States life expectancy started going down and it did not continue to increase as it was before. So basically from a synergistic holistic approach is to get back to the primary goal of healthcare, which is to maintain and improve individual and population health most effectively and efficiently. Upton St. Clair quote, which is one of my favorites, he said, it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it. And I believe that’s where many good intention healthcare providers are because the heart of man is motivated by money.

Sam Rohrer:

Gordon, it makes me think of things where if you have specialties only as you’re talking about and generally, I mean if I’m going to have a heart operation, I would prefer to go to a heart surgeon rather as we’re talking about a taxidermist, right? Absolutely. So the concept of having a specialty, you’re not saying specialists are not good. Put that in perspective. Specialists are necessary. But how does a specialist appropriately fit within the synergistic whole person approach of medical treatment?

Gordon Donaldson:

Oh, I go back. So basically my whole approach to medicine is, and again I got into this whole prevention, preventing inflammation in the cardiovascular system, going back to the Bible, the life is in the blood. But what it is, is we are not focused on prevention. We could actually turn our system around and we need to turn it around where we need more primary care physicians who look at the whole person. And if we were focused on prevention and we were focused on chronic disease mitigation, we would not need near as many specialists. My whole goal with my practice when I have my patients who are in there with cardiovascular health is I don’t want them to ever need to go have a procedure done on their heart. And I don’t want them to have dementia, I don’t want them to have diabetes. I don’t want them to have a situation where they need bypass surgery or they need a stent or anything like that.

Because again, it’s all about prevention, but that goes back to the whole heart of it of what medicine is really all about. And that is to improve an individual and a population health most effectively and efficiently. And we can do it again without the drugs. And I can kind of lead into that for the next segment with five main things that we need to do. And if we maintain these things, we can mitigate chronic disease dramatically and that’s what we need to do. Now, am I going to say it’s the easy way out? No, it’s not. But anything that as I was taught by my grandparents and others, my parents, nothing that is of value comes easy.

Sam Rohrer:

It isn’t not the truth. And with that, I bring this right after the break, ladies and gentlemen, you think about this, there is in life we can either pursue symptoms all the time and try to deal with consequences downstream. Or you go back and you say, alright, where does this start from? And you go back to the root problem. That’s what Dr. Gordon Donaldson is talking about. Go to the problem and you can prevent an awful lot of downstream things or you can say, Hey, I can deal better with and keep this person sicker and make more money if I just deal with the symptoms. You know what I mean? Yes, indeed. We’re going to give some examples of how this all works out. Next segment. Okay. Our theme today has been synergistic healthcare and more observations from a frontline doc. That frontline doc is my own friend, frankly.

And I’ll tell you, my family physician, Dr. Gordon Donaldson with me a number of times, but it’s been very, very helpful for me. When I spent my time in the legislature years ago, I did a lot of work on the matters of health and healthcare and the provision of that from a legislative perspective. And then I personally had health needs. All of you listening to me right now all have health needs. Then God gave my wife Ruth Ann and I six children. And so we got involved in their health. And so we’re all in that boat. And so our experience with health is personal, it’s experiential, and there are a lot of things from different perspectives that come at it. But one thing we know for sure is that it is harder and harder to find a good provider of healthcare. We all know that it’s harder and harder to work with.

Insurance companies won’t approve things, drag it out. You try to make an appointment. It may be three or four months out before you get an appointment. I mean we’re all hearing that, right? Well, okay, we’re getting a little bit to the heart of it because none of that is accidental, those delays, those things that we are experiencing. And if we’re not careful, what is taking place is that those who are committed to their Hippocratic oath of do no harm, those who are true God-fearing individuals who know that it is always better to work within the construct of how God has made us as a human being and understanding our immune system and how we work and the whole body. And as Gordon you just shared a little bit ago, the whole concept that in a Christian sense we know that the foot works with the head, you have to work the whole body together or you don’t have a functioning entity.

And I’m afraid that’s where we’re heading, not having a functional entity of called healthcare. But I think the illustration, ladies and gentlemen are there. But Gordon, in this segment, I’d like to in this issue trying to describe synergistic healthcare, treating the whole body not just in pieces, a foot doctor and the head doctor and the toe doctor. But you have a physician as you or a family physician who looks at the whole body, looks in their eyes, and you listen to the voice and you put these pieces together because that’s how we function. Okay, give an example here and now give an example of treating a patient synergistically from a diagnostic perspective.

Gordon Donaldson:

Sam, you said it well in the sense that when you have the patient there, number one, and unfortunately the way healthcare is set up right now, when the average time with the physician is eight to 10 minutes, you have to take the time and get to know the patient. If we don’t do that, I can be sitting with the patient. So from a synergistic point of view, I can be sitting with the patient and we’re discussing things and getting to know them. And then in our conversation it’s like, well, this is going on in my life. Well, there was the light bulb as to why, the real reason that they were there. Now, if I hadn’t spent the time and getting to know the patient, that would’ve never ever happened. So we need an absolute radical change in our approach to healthcare because the direction we’re going is unsustainable.

It is absolutely unsustainable. It is growing faster than our GDP, the healthcare cost. And the other thing that we have to understand is that we and every single one of you out there and myself here, we innately have a desire to live life to the fullest. God has put that in us. There is not a single patient I have who wants to live life in a sixth state. It is out the outside evil people who want to make money on keeping us sick. That’s really where it comes down to. So we have to understand that you kind of need to take your health into your own hands to a degree. So getting to and putting together a good baseline to present to the physician. Now the problem is again, the time to do that. And so trying to find, and as Sam said, trying to find good physicians who focus on that synergism of the body systems, excuse me, to reduce inflammation and reverse chronic disease is becoming more and more and we’re being driven to the other side because they want us out of that picture because we aren’t the ones that we try to have our patients work with everything outside of the pharmaceutical.

So when a patient comes to me, it’s number one. And number two, lifestyle one, lifestyle two. Number three, I go to the natural supplement. And then if we need to work with some of the pharmaceuticals, well we do it in the absolute lowest amount possible. So they’re not going to make money off of my practice. And that’s a problem. So we have to actually take it into our own hands to do our research, avoid the quick easy fix with the pharmaceutical products and work on the more difficult habits of the whole foods diet and exercise. So here’s an interesting thing. If we did five main things as an individual, here they are maintain a healthy weight of A BMI below 25, have a fasting blood sugar below 100, a blood pressure around one 20 over 80 in the morning. We exercise 30 minutes five days a week, and even just walking 7,000 steps a day and we ate seven helpings of our vegetables and fruits every day.

We would reduce our chronic disease burden in this country by 50 to 60%. And in some chronic disease, we totally mitigate them altogether, eradicate them. So we have to use our common sense and critical thinking. So again, supplements that we want to work with, supplements that work together to boost our health, like your vitamin C, vitamin D three B complex, K two, trace metals like zinc and selenium and magnesium and the anti-inflammatories like curcumin, melatonin, and resveratrol. It’s kind of interesting because we have to have the courage to step out from the majority. And I know that there’s a great quote from Booker t Washington that I absolutely love, and he said, A lie doesn’t become truth wrong, doesn’t become right, and evil doesn’t become good just because it is accepted by the majority. But then again, I go back to that as well, Jesus quote in Matthew seven, 13 and 14, enter by the narrow gate for why does the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction.

And there are many who go in by it because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life. And there are few who find it. So we really do have to take, and sometimes it is the harder approach. The problem is that we just have to take it up as a Christian that we need that discipline. That’s what it’s all about. We are here and we are called to maintain our bodies as best we can within the confines. Now I understand I was talking Tim as we came in here, and that is we are living in a toxic soup. It’s coming from the skies, it’s coming from the ground, it’s coming in our food. We cannot avoid it. But if we can mitigate it and we can counteract on that with the simple things, that is what we need to do.

Sam Rohrer:

Give me that list again. We’re just about the end of the program.

Gordon Donaldson:

So a healthy weight of A BMI below 25, fasting blood sugar below a hundred and blood pressure around one 20 over 80 in the morning, exercising 30 minutes five days a week. And we eat our vegetables and fruits, whole foods from our ground.

Sam Rohrer:

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