Trump Threatens Iran: An Idle Threat or a Prophetic Warning?
April 3, 2025
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Co-host: Pastor Matt Recker
Guest: Bill Koenig
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 4/2/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to the special Thursday edition of Stand In the Gap. Today as today special guest, white House correspondent and author of the really tremendous book we’ve talked much about on this program in the past called Eye to Eye, facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel. That’s the name of the book. And my guest is also founder of the Middle East and Israel focused website watch.org. He joins me today and that is Bill Koenig and so glad to have him on board with us. He’s going to be joined also here today with co-host Pastor Matt Recker, who is the pastor of Heritage Baptist Church in Manhattan, New York City. Now, the tide I’ve chosen for today’s program is this Trump threatens Iran, an idol threat or a prophetic warning. Now in segment three, we’re actually going to go to the Middle East Israel and the war against the Hootie now underway, and we’re going to get an update from Bill Koenig on the Trump threat, which everybody, if you’re listening, you probably are well aware of that It’s out there everywhere.
It’s a big deal, that threat to Iran to bomb them into oblivion. In segment two, we’re going to start with the White House and the White House correspondence perspective, Bill’s perspective on what’s coming out of this White House regarding policies and the process of policy making. And in segment four, the final segment we’re going to conclude by going to Jerusalem, great place to end up here and specifically the Temple Mount, and get the latest information from Bill on increasing rumors about efforts to soon begin, perhaps a rebuilding of the third temple that according to biblical prophecy, is present during the coming seven year tribulation or as described by the prophet Jeremiah in Jeremiah 37, the time of Jacob’s Trouble. That’s the same as the seven year tribulation. Now, with that as a backdrop to today’s program, let me invite in just right now, Bill Koenig, a White House correspondent student, a Biblical prophecy and founder of the website, which I would encourage you to go to visit watch.org. Bill, welcome to the program.
Bill Koenig:
Thank you, Sam, always a pleasure to be with you.
Sam Rohrer:
Well, it’s great to have you back and Bill, you’ve been traveling literally around the world, around the country, and so we have a lot to go over today. Your perspective over time makes you really unique in many ways, a positively unique, let’s put it that way, positively, unique. So let’s get right into that. A little bit of personal information here in this first segment, after being a White House journalist or correspondent for over 25 years or so, you stepped away for other duties, but you’ve now rejoined, I think the invited Press Corps to become a White House correspondent again under the Trump White House. Now, here’s a question for you as a correspondent, can you kind of compare contrast to the Trump administrations, for instance, their relationship to the press as we may see in the White House briefings and that type of thing, as compared to the Biden administration or even past administrations, just to compare contrast?
Bill Koenig:
Well, that’s a great question, Sam. I think having been at the White House for both Bush, both Obama and Trump’s first term, anybody that’s conservative president is going to take their shots. President Trump in the first term took it to a whole different level where he gave the shots back and no one would do that, but he did. And he also, 85, 90% of the previous media is very pro democrat, pro liberal, very secular, and it’s pretty much directed and influence many, many press conference and briefings over the years. I think what’s interesting now is President Trump is opening the door to influencers, streamers, podcasters that have large followings, and we’re one of those that have a large following and giving us, I had a hard pass for all those years, which is one of the top pass and have that again, it’s been renewed and I’m very excited about that because you’re going to get a lot different perspective, even to the point that they’re considering rearranging the seating in the White House press or in the West Wing, which has usually been in the hands of the White House Correspondence Association, and it’s always the major media that has the best seats.
The other thing is the Biden administration, I think they got rid of 400 hard passes. The conservatives were not welcome. Some of the restrictions during Covid were ridiculous, and I didn’t attend a single briefing in those four years, which I could have as a visitor, but now that I have a hard pass, I can go to all these events. So I think the big difference is, and I’ll put it this way too, Sam, president Trump’s done more personal press availabilities in a couple months in office, and Biden didn’t four years, it’s amazing. So what we’re having now as a president at his desk in the Oval Office addressing the media three, four days a week, and then his press secretary does one or two briefings a week. It’s very interesting to see this. And at the same time, he is very appreciative of the conservative media, which is better represented now than previously.
Matt Recker:
Yeah, I find it very interesting. They also have a new media, each of the press briefings bring someone in to ask the first question. So there’s a lot of changes there. So it’s very interesting. So you’ve written a book Eye to Eye that Sam referenced, bill, and it sounds like an amazing book as you’ve talked about it on this program various times. Now I understand you’re writing a sequel and you’ve just maybe concluded that. Would you just share the essence of the original Eye to Eye documentary and then what will the sequel be about? Why did you write it and what is the when of it?
Bill Koenig:
Well, the original Eye to Eye, I noticed that every time that we would apply pressure in Israel, divide their covenant land, we’d have these enormous catastrophes in America the same day or within 24 hours. And I have in Eye to Eye, which is in its third printing, we have 126 record setting events, largest hurricanes, largest tornado outbreaks, two of the largest terrorism events, and one major earthquake when Bill Clinton was with Hoffa Sada, Syria in Geneva, just you can feel a collective fury or fire. You could just feel it in atmospheric when the international community is talking about a two state plan, a two state plan, or attempting to put an Arab state in the biblical heartland of Israel, which is Judea and Samaria, and my sequel or volume two will be about Trump’s four years. His first four years in office, he went from having the highest approval rating or very high approval rating and with great favor up until the January 28th, 2020 when he came forward with his peace plan.
And from that point to the election, it was one problem after another campaign problems, it was Covid vote by mail, conceptually fraud by mail. And so when he had the favor before January 28th and after January 28th, lost that favor. And then Abraham Accords. A quick note here, the Abraham Accords are signed on September 15th, 2020, and it’s a deal between the Emirates of Bahrain, Israel and the United States. It’s an Abraham Accord deal, and within a few hours, hurricane Sally slammed into the Southern Gulf Coast, Sally in Hebrew is Sarah. So in other words, hurricane Sarah slammed in right after the Abraham Accords were signed.
Sam Rohrer:
Well, Bill, we’re looking forward to that book Eye to Eye again, where that exactly sits and where we can find it. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us today. Stay with us. We’re going to be back. Bill Koenig, White House correspondent is my guest, Matt Recker co-host Pastor Matt Reckers with me today. And we’re going to go to the White House and talk with Bill about perspectives about the President’s policies. Well, if you’re just tuning in right now at the beginning of our program, you only missed our first segment, but you did miss introduction to our guest, Bill Koenig, white House correspondent president and founder of World Watch Daily, and author of the book Eye to Eye with a sequel coming out, which focuses on pretty much the four years of Donald Trump and things related, it’s all related to Israel, but that’s where if you’re just tuning in, you got that part of it and a little bit of a discussion with him about changes that he’s seen in the White House under this new administration.
Now, my theme today is this, Trump threatens Iran an idle threat or a prophetic warning because that threat has been issued. Now let’s get into it here, bill, let’s move into this section with your commentary on the general, I’m determined this way, the Trump process, the How he conducts business. Obviously we talked in that last segment about being more open in the media setting and different people being invited in, talk about seating even being changed or going to be changed and the president himself being there. These are significant things, but I’m going to go process and policies that we’ve been able to witness the past 60 days or so now under the Biden administration, weakness and corruption, this is what we’ve talked about in our program a lot, and I think most people would agree, but under the Biden administration weakness and corruption was the imp prima.
It seemed to invite and encourage enemy nation aggression against the United States and Israel. And I think people again agreed with that. Now, under Donald Trump, I’m going to say his brashness and bold warnings and threats of either military action, like we’re going to take Greenland or whatever it may be, or tariffs just happened yesterday, liberation day and economic sanctions against our enemies and even our allies like in Europe, seems my opinion, to be causing our enemies to perhaps galvanize their coalitions, which were forming under Biden, perhaps galvanizing them against us, maybe even more even like we’re seeing in Europe with the European Union coming out with a plan against the United States. Pretty amazing. So here’s my question. Some people Bill are justifying the President’s approach as simply, well, it’s a part of his well-known art of the deal, a approach to negotiation. Others say he is increasingly acting out of desperation, but in either case, it seems that there is a level of confusion and lawlessness, which we saw under Biden clearly maybe just being replaced with some uncertainty, but in a context of confidence where there’s threats and warnings and then all of that kind of thing.
So question here is this, do you see the Trump approach of threats and demands as being an accurate opinion and achieving the stated goals of peace and economic greatness? Or perhaps is it actually fueling angst and anger by foreign leaders against the United States leading to the exact opposite?
Bill Koenig:
Yeah, let me hit two areas here. Let’s hit the Iran, well actually hit this Qatar hostage negotiations with Israel and Hamas, and then I can hit Iran and then also Russia, Ukraine. So I’ll try to summarize it best I can. Sam, what we saw was a tremendous amount of pressure exerted on Israel to agree to that hostage deal with Hamas. President Trump had told everybody that if a deal was not cut with Hamas and Israel by the time of his inauguration specifically focusing on a moss, that there would be held to pay. So his chief Middle East envoy, Steve Whitcoff was in Qatar. Qatar is the one that bought Steve Whitcoff $625 million building in Manhattan when it was underwater using a real estate term. And then he came to Israel on Shabbat and told Netanyahu, yes, you are meeting in Shabbat. We’re going to negotiate this deal right now.
What was interesting in an eye to eye event as he was in Qatar, a polar vortex spread to America, 95% of America was under a deep freeze on the day of inauguration, which is, excuse me, 24 hours after Witkoff left his cutting a hostage deal between the Israel and Hamas and President Trump canceled the outdoor inauguration, which is very interesting on Iran. The Houthis, he is telling Iran that if there’s going to be continued rockets flying out of Yemen affecting Red Sea travel and traffic and US interest in the Red Sea such as our ships and Israel, that Iran’s going to be responsible for every bit of it. So there has been some active aggressive firing of weapons into Yemen. And also we have B two bombers at Diego Garcia, which is a US UK island in the Indian Ocean. So that’s a warning. A quick note here, we’re watching Erdogan and Syria very closely.
That is becoming more and more problematic. And then let’s jump over to Ukraine. Russian negotiations, we’ve never had a head of state as far as I know, get in an argument with the president of the United States right there in the Oval Office about the deal, about a deal with Russian Ukraine. And then he immediately went back to the EU and they rallied around him. And so some of the EU leaders, fellow members of NATO have been not very positive towards President Trump. And then the other day he was going to have a phone call with Putin and Putin kept them waiting for an hour. They eventually had a call and then right after their so-called successful call, Russia started firing some rockets and bombs into Ukraine. So you can kind of see what’s happening here. One quick note, Steve Witkoff said that he believed that president had an intimidation factor the Middle East and people were going to comply to that. We’re not seeing that
Matt Recker:
At this point. Wow, very interesting. Bill, the world’s on fire. Well, let’s bring things back home for a moment. Of course, Elon Musk has created a lot of controversy and intrigue and his influence with Doge, but now rumors coming out yesterday that Musk might be leaving Doge. So I have two questions. First, what can you say about the short and the long-term impacts that Musk’s role will have in the efforts of Doge on the federal government? And second, can you comment on just the internal attitude, the buzz within the White House and Congress toward the actions of Musk and the efforts of Doge? Is it fear, admiration, jealousy, or something
Bill Koenig:
Else? Well, man, I think that it was definitely needed. Doge was definitely needed. And some of the things they’re uncovering a couple trillion, two, three, $4 trillion. I think it was three or 4 trillion that was being sent. Many places with no tracking, with wasted spending. In many departments right now you’ve got about an 8% of the federal workers in Washington actually go into the office. Some people think there’s maybe is 20 or 30% of the federal workers don’t even work but get paid. So there is a lot of corruption and waste that’s being uncovered. And a lot of the irritation has been from the Democratic party because things are being uncovered and they had their hands in a lot of this and lack of oversight. And also the Republicans should have been stronger in a greater accountability to government. They’ve been voting on these larger and larger and larger federal budgets too. So there’s a responsibility for them. We’re getting less blowback from the Republicans, but it hits some raw nerves. And then what our majority leftist media in doing is finding one person or a family or a few people that are being impacted by these changes and making a big deal out of it.
The other thing is it is super aggressive. I think we have to be careful with our worker visas. 40% of our agricultural workers come with worker visas and some people are having crops spoiled in their fields because we can’t get to workers quick enough. And there’s some very talented gifted immigrants. It could be of help, but everything is frozen right now and a lot of disruption. So that’s a concern. There’s just some things that need to be worked out. I understand May 1st Musk is leaving. I think he’s got a pretty good team in place. I don’t know who’s going to oversee it after that, but that’s the rumor right now, Matt, that he’s going to be leaving in May 1st, that a lot of the work will have been, at least on the surface, accomplished and done. So this is a very contentious issue as we watch in the newspapers on a daily basis.
Sam Rohrer:
And Bill just a little bit left here in this break yesterday there was some negative reaction in the US Senate with four Republicans actually joining Democrats in voting against effectively the president and tariffs as it regards Canada. What is the working attitude of the Senate versus the House as an example relative to the president and his policies?
Bill Koenig:
Well, that was interesting because it had to do with Canadian tariffs. And I respect Rand Paul. He takes tough lines sometimes, don’t always agree with him, but at least a guy has courage to stand up. His concern was that we have never in history constitutionally had one person such as a president that can arbitrarily put tariffs on all these countries. And I think there needs to be more scrutiny. I know it’s been unfair playing field, but we’ve lost four or 5 trillion in market capitalization. A lot of people’s 401K’s are affected. So I appreciate that boldness in that one statement. We have to have more debate over that,
Sam Rohrer:
And I think that’s a great point. Anyways, we’re out of time here at Ladies and gentlemen. Stay with us a lot further. We could go down that road on tariffs, congressional actions that actually granted to happen and all these kind of things. But anyways, brief comment on policies out of the White House. The next segment, stay with us. We’re going to go to the Middle East and camp there a little bit more as we talk more specifically about Iran. We’re midway through the program right now, and again, if you’re just joining us, which is often the case in a radio program, you might be in your car, you might be in the kitchen. I know people are listening to this program as it’s played throughout the day. Tomorrow this program will actually be played in Africa since we’ve now been covering there across the nation of Kenya and to some of its neighboring countries.
They’ll hear it tomorrow. So regardless of when you’re joining us right now, thanks for being a part here. Our theme today is this, Trump threatens Iran, an ILE threat or a prophetic warning. And I’m actually going to ask my special guest today, bill Koenig White House correspondent. That specific question in just a moment, but when it comes to the Middle East and a foreign policy of which Bill in the last segment gave some commentary, some very good commentary, Donald Trump, without a doubt has evidenced a support for Israel like no other president in my opinion. And while he said that if he had been president instead of Joe Biden, there would be no war in Ukraine, no war in the Middle East and no imminent war by China against Taiwan. We have nonetheless, even more war and rumors of war. His off repeated comments prior to the November election that on day one those wars would be resolved, have really proven that peace in these days is harder to achieve and even more elusive when demanded.
Now, those are my words, my editorial comments on it, but I think we are not at the precipice of peace, but greater war now built the president’s threat to the Houthis, and you talked about that a little bit to utterly annihilate them. I think that was the actual language, very strong. And then to engage them in a long-term bombing campaign that is underway and that’s been stated and that’s been restated. The president’s threat to Iran, and you referenced it last segment to bomb them into submission more or less like has never been seen before. Those were the president’s words, has frankly been rebuffed by Iran’s ayatollah. Today. On your website, people can actually find the exact article, your website watch.org, which I would encourage all of you listening to go to. It’s a great place to get information about truthful information about Israel and the Middle East and things connected to that.
You can sign up there, it’s all there, watch.org. But anyway, it’s right on your website, bill. You have the article where Russia officially warned yesterday against any US strike on Iran’s nuclear sites, which is what the President threatened to do, saying that it would be catastrophic. It would also appear that our president, in my opinion, has rather locked himself into a major military strike against Iran because he stated so many times and they have said, we’re not going to go along with you. It almost seems like it’s imminent. They’ve locked themselves in. And they just yesterday came out and said they needed to make an immediate preemptive strike Iran did against the United States. So you’ve got Russia warning the US implying that they’re in alliance with Iran. It’s assumed that China may also honor their alliance with Iran. So there’s a lot going on. Here’s my question. In your opinion, is Trump’s threat to Iran an idle threat or perhaps a prophetic warning?
Bill Koenig:
Well, you made a good point. Is he committing himself? He was one that when he says something, he wants to back it, he wants to follow through. That was part of the pressure. I mentioned that Israel was facing with the Israel Hamas hostage deal. He said, as I said, all hell will break loose if we don’t have a deal done by inauguration. So there was extraordinary pressure put on Israel because of that. I think what’s happening here, Sam, I think we’re definitely, or the president’s definitely moving into a position to be even more aggressive. The word now is he’s going to be in Saudi Arabia and also meeting with Jelani, the leader of Syria in mid-May. So that’s kind of interesting. And at the same time too, he’s giving, he gave Khomeini an opportunity to negotiate directly on the nukes nuclear weapons. He refused to, they want to negotiate through the group that they’ve continued to manipulate the P five plus one, the Europeans plus the United States.
They’ve been doing that for a long time. And I think the P five is a security council main members plus plus Germany. And so of course, Iran’s masterful negotiators, they’re going to do everything they can, but Trump is fed up with it. I had some friends that spent some time with Prime Minister Netanyahu a couple of weeks ago. They were discussing the NRB plan or the resolution was being sent to President Trump to encourage him to back sovereignty over Jude today and Samaria. But my friend said that Prime Minister Netanyahu is very focused right now on Iran and the situation of Gaza, and that’s getting most of his attention. So is the United States and Israel coordinating possible eventual strike on Iran? Very possible. And I continue to look at Jeremiah 49 35 through 39. It talks about Elam, which is modern day run being devastated and the gospel spreading throughout the country, which is one of the greatest countries for Yeshua now in the world. I mean, there’s so much with the gospel being spread there. So that’s a long answer to your question, Sam, but I do think the posturing is going on by President Trump. The fact we have bombers being sent to Diego Garcia, B two bombers, he’s showing strength. It’s kind of interesting timing, the fact that he’ll be in Saudi Arabia meeting with these Arab countries in leaders in mid-May. So we’ll be watching this very carefully. It’s a very interesting story to follow.
Matt Recker:
It sure is Bill, and it’s difficult for the average American to keep up and into unravel all of these conflicts. I mean, in just the last couple of days, Turkey has threatened to take over the Syrian air bases, and then Israel has bombed Syria, the Syrian airfields to prevent Turkey from getting a greater stronghold there. Meanwhile, Israel has also bombed Beirut Lebanon, and then they’ve restarted military attacks in the Gaza strips. So how do you foresee, especially the desires and the responses of Turkey’s President Erdogan in factoring into an expanded military engagement by Israel and the United States in the Middle East? Now,
Bill Koenig:
That’s the other thing I’m watching Matt very closely is Erdogan’s moves during the Arab Spring. He was a big back of the Muslim Brotherhood. They got thrown out of power in Egypt. We kind of slowed down some of his plans by governor or general El sissy. Assad is out of the country now in Syria. Ani has a relationship with Turkey. It’s pretty close. Turkey continues to house Hamas leaders that have been basically told to leave Qatar. So a friend of ours that I follow also in Israel said that Israeli security forces estimate that a military conflict between Israel and Turkey on Syrian Seoul is only soil, is only a matter of time due to the conflicting interest of the two countries that you just mentioned. And these continued bombings within Syria by Israel Erdogan trying to take over the airfield, which also puts that one Kurdish arm. PKK at risk has helped the United States defeat ISIS. I mean, you put this on a chess board. There’s just so many pieces right now that could play out. But I do think long answer to the question is that something soon could be happening with Israel in Turkey. And President Trump talked to Erdogan the other day, even talked about giving him some, I think it was F seventeens, F fifteens, and then F 30 fives. And obviously that didn’t go over very well with the pro-Israel Republican Party in Washington.
Sam Rohrer:
There are so many movements on the chess board in the last couple of minutes of the program. Let’s go back to the Gaza again. Everyone remembers the president making very, very clear statement. We’re going to take over the Gaza, we’re going to develop a Middle East Riviera. And there were many people who said, oh, what a fantastic thing. This has got to be good for Israel. Now I’ve been reading things, in fact, that may have gone just the opposite in that it’s actually made the Arab neighbors actually increased their hatred towards Israel because they say, see? See, all they want is more land. What are your thoughts? And again, there’s a Prophetical component I think that runs through this.
Bill Koenig:
No doubt, Sam. I’ll never forget the day of being at the White House in February, and it’s the press conference with President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu and Trump talked about taking over Gaza toward the end of the press conference. And when it was over, I was sitting with friends of mine in the Israeli press and they came over to me and said, did I hear that right? Trump talked about taking over Gaza. I said, well, that’s what I heard too. At first we thought it was very clever and strategic and kind of typical art of the deal. Come up with something that’s just so out of the box so crazy. It kind of leads to the beginning of negotiations at a higher level than you would’ve been if you hadn’t come up with something that was so enormous or outrageous. Unfortunately, this has rallied the troops in the Arab world and Syrian president or Syrian leader. Now, Ani said recently at the Arab League meeting that Israel is being blamed for attempting to take over more land. Didn’t even mention Trump in the United States. Israel’s getting the blame for attempting to take more land with the United States covering,
Sam Rohrer:
Which brings in the prophetical component piece, doesn’t it? Ladies and gentlemen? Israel becomes a heavy burden, a troublesome, but no matter what you do, the focus and the hatred of the world will increase against Israel that we know. Alright, now with that being in mind, we’re going to go to Jerusalem and we’re going to talk about what may be happening, at least a continuing discussion relative to the Trump Temple Mount. And could we actually see in our days here the rebuilding of a temple? Well, as we go into our final segment, thanks for being with us today. And again, always a reminder to all of you. We appreciate you so very much. If you weren’t where you are, we couldn’t be where we are. It’s a two-way street on Radio One us here trying to present the truth. But it requires those of you across the country, literally around the world now to hear.
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Yes. A recently confirmed location we’re told of the Ark of the Covenant. And Jewish religious leaders who are pushing for a rebuilt third temple are all indicators of a very close proximity to the tribulation period, because that’s when all these things are brought together. Bill, what can you share about any of the reported discussions which have recently occurred between Israeli leadership on any level, there’s religious, there’s a civil, that kind of thing, but them and Donald Trump, is there anything that you know of comment on that? Because Summer saying that that is there, but all leading towards a way that perhaps Donald Trump as a friend of Israel could help facilitate the movement towards the rebuilding of a third temple. Is this just hopeful speculation or a potential reality?
Bill Koenig:
Well, couple weeks ago, actually right around mid-February, so a little bit more than a couple weeks, a rabbi Tooley wise with Israel 365 and another Knesset member met with Paula White. This is public. And one of the things they discussed was the third temple, and they discussed some of their thinking and biblical heart for this and asked that the white Paula White and her team would supply some of this to President Trump for his support or consideration. So I don’t have all the details, but it was addressed. There’s been a couple other articles about the fact that it has been addressed of trying to get the United States support for a future third temple. There’s been discussion in Israel with the Prime Minister on this. And also, I’ll just throw this out too, is during Rabbi Thule’s visit there at the White House, he also discussed sovereignty, presidential sovereignty or President Trump approving the sovereignty for Judea and Samaria for Israel.
And it’s not there. It was just mentioned as something that’s also of great interest. And the NRB at the National Religious Broadcasters Convention in late February, we did sign a resolution calling for President Trump to acknowledge Israel’s sovereign right to Judea and Samaria. So I thought that was significant. It’s been a lot of conversation. I mean the NRB was behind it. International Christian Embassy, Jerusalem, Israel Allies Caucus, which is the Jewish group, are all calling for that. But as I shared earlier in the program, the main focus for Israel and even the United States right now is Iran and Gaza. This is something for the future, but it was interesting timing.
Matt Recker:
Yes. And Sam mentioned that there was a recently confirmed location for the arc of the Covenant, which surely gets the attention of Christians. And there are these recently declassified reports where the CIA had developed some technology called remote viewing, which I think is through a psychic, which I find sort of interesting. But they have confirmed through some of this technology, a possible location for a preserved arc of the covenant under the Temple Mount. So Bill, can you please comment on this claim and why the discussion of this is significant?
Bill Koenig:
That is a location, Matt. One reason for that, I had a friend from the United States was very close friend of a medical doctor from Tel Aviv who was very close to Ariel Sharon. And there was an archeological group that was in there in 2003 or oh four, I think that’s when it was. And they said they saw it and the Palestinians caught wind that they had located something. And my friend here in the States says, oh, they saw the arc of the covenant and they actually closed off the Palestinians closed off that area immediately. So I thought that was very interesting. Very credible guy here, a top medical doctor in Tel Aviv and a very close friend of Ariel, Sharon. They all were aware of this. So I thought that was incredibly credible information at that particular time. So I believe that’s where it is.
Sam Rohrer:
And interesting. Bill, we got about two minutes left before we close. In light of all of these things, these things are converging, it seems all around. How do you, as a student of biblical prophecy, you’ve been in the civil sector, you’re a journalist, you’re a friend of Israel, all of these things, how are you in your own mind addressing and responding to all of these things that we’re just talking about here today?
Bill Koenig:
Well, like when you and I have our conversation, Sam, you and I watch the news, we watch the patterns, and we also have the Bible there to kind of give us our prophetic biblical roadmap. So when you start talking about Iran, Russia, Turkey, Syria, what’s happening in Gaza, and then you start talking about a red heifer, a third temple, and the Ark of the Covenant. These are prophetically, biblically significant times. And American presidents have had a significant prophetic role, even all the way back to Woodrow Wilson at the time of the San Remo agreement in the 1920 period all the way to the President. So our presidents, despite that land, is not to be divided or created an Arab state in Judean, Samaria. We, our presidents have had a very significant prophetic role and now we have a president named President Trump. And you and I have talked about Trump or trumpet. All of these things are very interesting to us, Watchmen, as we try to continue to connect the dots and watch these biblical patterns.
Sam Rohrer:
And Bill perfect timing, you are in fact a really good journalist and commentator. Thank you so much. You’re right on time. watch.org. Ladies and gentlemen, his website where a lot of the articles that are referred to in the program today are there. Bill keeps them current, they’re all there. You can read them, you can see where they’re from. Anything related to Israel of importance to the Middle East, you can find there watch.org. I encourage you to go there as a source for this focus information. Alright, Bill Koenig White House correspondent, thank you so much for being with us today. And Matt Recker, thanks for being co-host today, you pastor up there in Manhattan, New York City. Praise the Lord for that. And ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us today. Again, pray for us this week. Consider giving to us and take this program and pass it along to a friend. A great way.
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