Ask Sam – Trump’s Mid East Tour

Ask Sam – Trump’s Mid East Tour

May 16, 2025

Host: Dr. Isaac Crockett

Co-host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 5/16/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Isaac Crockett:

Welcome to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and joining me today is the Honorable Sam Rohr, the president of the American Pastors Network and the regular host of this program Stand in the Gap Today. And of course we have behind the scenes our trustee, producer, Tim Schneider. And so for all of them, thank you for tuning in and we want to talk about some things going on right now. One of the most interesting things is our president, president Trump is overseas. He’s in the Middle East, and there’s just a lot going on and so it’s hard to keep up with it. So unfortunately, I don’t think, Sam, that we’re going to have time to ask you all the questions that I have and that you and others, we’ve talked with several folks from our team and other people have been asking me questions. We’ll try to get through some of the questions, but we do want to look at this trip to the Middle East and before we go looking and asking questions to Sam about this on this Ask Sam Friday edition. First I want to listen to this soundbite from a speech that Trump gave in Saudi Arabia just a couple of days ago on this four day tour over to the Middle East. So Tim, could you go ahead and play that clip?

Donald Trump:

In recent years, far too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion that it’s our job to look into the souls of foreign leaders and use US policy to dispense justice for this sins. They loved using our very powerful military, and now it’s really the most powerful it’s ever been. We just are getting a budget approved, $1 trillion highest budget we’ve ever had in history for military, $1 trillion, and we’re getting the greatest missiles, the greatest weapons, and I hate to do it, but you have to do it because we believe in peace through strength. You have to have the strength. Otherwise bad things could happen, but hopefully we’ll never have to use any of those. Weapons seems to be an awfully big waste of money if you’re never going to use them, but hopefully we’ll never have to use them because the destructive power of some of those weapons are like nobody’s seen before. I believe it is God’s job to sit in judgment, my job, to defend America and to promote the fundamental interest of stability, prosperity, and peace. That’s what I really want to do.

Isaac Crockett:

Alright, Sam, let’s just talk about that clip. It’s kind of, I think a good example of the speeches he was giving and you can tell that he’s talking, I would say kind of off the cuff during a lot of these speeches where he goes on about our big beautiful bombs and weapons that we have. We’d hate to have to use these kind of letting people know, but in a nice way. But he says some other very important things strategically there. He says it’s God’s job to sit in judgment. He says basically, we’re not here to judge different ones of you, which I thought was very interesting because many of those people in that room have accusations against them of being responsible for murders or whatever, but he says there is judgment, but that comes from God, but it’s my job to defend America and he brings up America, this America first kind of agenda. And so I’m just curious, Sam, how you see this sort of speech compared to the sort of speeches that we were accustomed to hearing from Biden and Harris in the last White House or even from before the first Trump White House from Barack Obama, president Obama. Just interesting how you would compare their speeches with what we just heard from President Trump.

Sam Rohrer:

Well, Isaac, as a freestanding statement, what you just played in that clip, there’s no comparison between a statement made that way in that setting compared to Joe Biden, Barack Obama on one hand. On the other hand, it does compare. Now, for instance, as an example, Barack Obama, I went back and you can just Google and find it, but a number of places, interviews, national prayer, breakfast, one that I attended years ago when he was there, he made statements like this, Barack Obama did. They said this, I am a Christian. I have a very deep faith. I draw from the Christian faith. I am rooted in the Christian tradition. And then he makes other statements like if you just take that piece of it, you say, wow, that’s pretty good too. That’s significant. So all I can say is that the statement made that you played was very good.

I would’ve made that statement if I would’ve been in that position like that, I would’ve made that statement and I would’ve really believed it because that’s my worldview, biblical worldview. I don’t know exactly if that is the worldview of the President of Barack Obama, Joe Biden. They made statements about God regularly, but one would look at their actions and would say it doesn’t fit. Words are cheap. Even the devil can quote scripture at times, but he doesn’t believe it. So I guess all I’m saying is that people here in there are good statements made. I look, I guess maybe being in office for a long time and having worked with governors and others on a different level, I know that talk is cheap and what you already look for are your policies and your actions and your deeds across the spectrum. Do they support that? Are they consistent? So I take that and I applaud that statement. It was exactly right, but then you got to connect it to, all right, well what else is happening? And kind of put one against you. I mean, that’s really what scripture tells us to do anyways. It’s not just by our words, but it’s by our de. So you got to keep the two always in balance.

Isaac Crockett:

I’d also be curious, especially Fox News and a number of other organizations are showing the grand reception the President Trump is receiving over there in Saudi Arabia and Qatar and these Middle Eastern countries and talking about this beautiful luxury airplane that has recently been donated or they’re trying to give to Trump and just there’s a lot. It would appear to me as I’m watching this, that there is an immense respect for Donald Trump from these Arab leaders. Now compare that to other recent presidents. Of course, Clinton and Bush had a difficult time. We had wars and things going on over there, but let’s take Barack Obama and President Biden and compare them with apparently what we’re seeing in the media from the reception that these leaders are giving Trump first time and now second time in office compared to what he had with his predecessors in Obama and Biden. Do you see a difference in how these countries are treating them?

Sam Rohrer:

I do, and we had a lot of commentary on this. Joe Biden was a weak and affectless leader who was not bound by his words. Barack Obama was a great one at making a statement and then going to the exact opposite because they literally embraced deception as a part of policy. Now Donald Trump comes, his personality is much stronger. He’s bold, he’s visionary, and I think from the perspective of being there in the Middle East and we talk about morning comes back, why that meeting was taking place. He knows big finance, he is successful. And so he comes across in a setting like that with more respect across the board than the other two.

Isaac Crockett:

Very interesting. Well, that really sets this up, Sam, because there’s so much at play in the Middle East right now. I mean, there’s plenty in the news, but I think as you and I talk, we’re going to be able to dig even deeper, not just what we’re seeing politically and economically, but their spiritual cultural transhumanist things going on in the background. Please stay tuned. We’ll be right back to talk about this. Welcome back to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and we’re having an Ask Sam Friday edition talking to the honorable Sam Rohrer about right now, really this whole program, we’re looking at Trump’s Middle East tour, a four or five day tour thing that’s wrapping up with President Trump in some Arab states. I thought it was interesting in talking before we went on air. Our producer, Tim was saying, and many of you know that he’s a retired military, but that he has actually spent, he’d been deployed over to some of these areas that we’re seeing Trump in and Qatar, and actually, I don’t know a lot about the Middle East.

I went to Pakistan last year and I flew the Qatari Airlines and was really impressed by it. And I ended up in Doha, the big city there in Qatar and very impressive. I spent about a day there on my way coming back, trying to get back from Pakistan, extremely impressed at their wealth and just the luxury and things that they have there. And so there’s a lot of pomp and circumstance in these Gulf nations in receiving President Trump. And you were talking about that, Sam, even that they seem to respond very respectfully to the strong man they see in Donald Trump and what he’s done for our country and in the military. But it’s also interesting, there’s some questions being raised with this Middle East trip, and I think Sam, we could probably spend a whole program on this one question I’m leading up to, but I’m just going to have you comment on it a little bit, and then we’re going to dig deeper into Saudi Arabia and things. But here’s President Trumpet in Saudi Arabia, Qatar talking to the new leader of Syria, but he’s not in this Middle East trip going to Israel. He’s not meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu, and there are some people really talking about that. What are your thoughts about this?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, I think again, trips like this from a political perspective, and we’ll talk about just a minute. The purpose for this trip, there is a stated purpose. There is the big picture narrative. It’s the perception of a trip and that is twist, not twisted, but shaped according to how many of different folks may want to shape it. But when you go into an area as volatile and as key as the Middle East by not bringing in Israel or Netanyahu, and as it turns out, not just that there’s not a visit to Israel reel, but the announcement for instance, that was made of getting the release of a prisoner there that Hamas had, that had both an Israeli passport and an American passport, and the president was able to say that he negotiated and got the release of that individual of which Israel knew nothing about.

And the trip to Saudi, which Israel was not a part of, that is not being taken well within Israel, let’s put it that way. And some of the other things that are taking place, and we’ll talk about Syria a little bit later. The decision announcement about Syria kind of factors into a lot of that. It almost as if, well, it’s not as, it’s not my opinions. Leaders are saying it that they know that the president is a friend of Israel and that’s been demonstrated by certain things. On the other hand, they’re not quite sure of the motivation of the President and whether or not the commitment to Israel ongoing will be as strong as they thought it was, which has caused Israel in some cases already to say, we have an obligation to defend ourself. We would hope the United States was with us, but even if they may not be with us, we’re still going to go ahead and do what we’re going to do. Those are the kinds of things that are being discussed right now. So I think it’s significant. I think we’re going to hear more about it in the days ahead.

Isaac Crockett:

I think that’s a good way of putting, I like how you summed that up, but keep that on the radar. I’d encourage if you’re listening and thinking about that, look at this, see what’s going on with Trump. But I like what you said about the purpose and perspectives and things on this, Sam, and let’s dig into that because I’m seeing in the crowds and sprinkled very prominently in the TV footage, really important economic people, billionaires, people like Elon Musk for example, and they’re with Trump in Saudi Arabia and things, and there’s a lot going on. There’s talk right now, even during this visit of Saudi Arabia investing billions, maybe even tens of billions, you might know more about this than I do into artificial intelligence. And some people are saying that that’s kind of the goal right now of Saudi Arabia is to more or less, you could almost say divest from petroleum from the oil trade and really reinvest in AI and becoming the AI center of the world maybe.

And when I started reading some of that and hearing commentators on that, that really made me think, what is going on here? And that’s why I think we have to look at this more than just what we’re seeing on the news, more than just political, the geopolitical more than just the economic. What is the driving force? What is the driving factor? Why is Donald Trump there? Why did he bring all these guys with him? So I’d just be curious, what do you think about this, especially when it comes to the business guys like Musk and others who are really into the AI and this what looks like huge investments by Saudi Arabia and artificial intelligence?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, I think it appears that there were three legs of this, three missional objectives of this visit, and there may be more, but one is technology and that’s why some of the billionaires were there. We’re talking about that a bit more. A second was defense and for a couple different reasons, getting orders from Saudi Arabia, but on the other hand, viewing that as a little bit of an alliance strengthening the US Saudi relationship vis-a-vis Iran as an example. So you’ve got in the middle of this, you’ve got an attempt to divide the Sunnis from the Shia. Iran is Shia, Saudis, Qatar, Arab Emirates, those others are Sunni. So there’s a division there. There’s a little bit of a strategy there. And the third one is finance. So there’s banking and there’s currency. All of these things are economically connected because there’s all money involved with them, but those are parts, technology, defense and finance were the three legs of missional objectives of that trip. Isaac,

Isaac Crockett:

Alright, well, with looking at this from a biblical worldview then going into Saudi Arabia and UAE and Qatar and stuff, you talk a lot about biblical prophecies of the alignment of different nations and biblical principles of who we should be friends with and blessing those who bless Israel and so on. You brought up taking orders from Saudi Arabia. There’s this big arms deal that was being signed or talked about being signed. Possibly there’s discussion with some of these Arab leaders who are present, maybe some pressure it would appear to get them to join in on the Abraham Accords. How do you look at this or how would you recommend we look at this through the lens of a biblical worldview?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, okay, I’m going to go back up on it a little bit. I’ll try to go there as well if I can. I’ll just revisit just briefly part of the objective of the president being there, the tech technology and the banking and finance and defense, the president’s goals have been stated is to ultimately seek $1 trillion worth of investment coming from primarily the three countries of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE United Arab Emirates, a trillion dollars, this piece of it. And part of the visit still continuing and talking to the other two, meaning Qatar and UAE from Saudi Arabia. What did they want? Because Saudi Arabia is not going to put in money without something in return. They’re going to put in 20 billion to AI, but they’re going to put in more than that. Some numbers are up towards of 600 million going into it, but what they’re going to get, they’re also buying 120 billion worth of military equipment, high tech military equipment.

So Saudi Arabia, they wanted technology. They want help in putting US technology, they want US technology, they want US equipment planes, which they have not been sold these things before, and they want US technology and help to construct a major nuclear facility in the desert in Saudi Arabia. Now, this is all a part of the deal making that the president is doing. He’s going to get money and hopefully a trillion dollars you can come back and say, we’re going to do this to advance America. The other hand, what it’s doing is that it is equipping with the very latest of technology, defense equipment, the Saudis, which are still Muslim and they’re Sunni, they’re not Iran, but they’re still not friends of Israel.

So people are looking at it and saying, all right, what’s happening now? All of this, as I’m saying, when you look at all of this Isaac and understand that the billionaires that were also there, which focuses on the economic aspect of it, they include these people. Here’s an example. Elon Musk was there. He’s with Tesla, SpaceX, everybody knows him. Sam Altman, he’s the CEO of open ai, the company behind chat, GPT, Larry Fink, he’s the CEO of BlackRock. It’s a firm managing over 10 trillion in assets most significant on earth. Andy Jassy, CEO of Amazon, Janssen, Wong of Nvidia, Steven Schwartzman of Blackstone to private equity giant. And then Mark Zuckerberg, he’s the meta architect. We can talk more on it, but when you put all of these guys together, Isaac, they take it in a direction of yes, big money, yes, all AI, and it all moves you into an area called transhumanism. I think you mentioned it. And that’s where I believe it connects with the area of a biblical worldview and prophecy, and that’s another part of the story.

Isaac Crockett:

Welcome back to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and on this Friday edition of Standing the Gap, today we’re asking Sam questions about what’s going on in the world in the news in particular, what’s going on over in the Middle East with President Trump making his tours, visiting several of these Arab states and looking into it. What does it really mean? And there’s a lot of questions that we can’t get into all of them, but we want to look at some of the interesting things he has said about the new leader in Syria and some of the things with the meeting he had with him. But before we do, Sam, as we were ending the last segment, you were talking about this whole litany of many of them, very well-known, famous billionaires who have come along on this trip who are meeting with these wealthy Arab leaders and Trump, and a lot of what they’re talking about is artificial intelligence. And you brought up this idea of transhumanism, and we’ve talked about this many times on many different programs on Stand in the Gap, but could you maybe go into that just a little bit further for us before we get into discussing this new leadership in Syria?

Sam Rohrer:

I can, Isaac, and I guess there’s two parts of it. Number one, the aspect that these folks who were there were Silicon Valley people, the Zuckerbergs and Schwartzman and all of them. The connection is AI. That is the interest of Saudi Arabia. That is, and I want to help people to remember that the day after President Trump was sworn into office in January, he held a meeting in the White House. It was the first day right after the swearing in. So by priority and emphasis, it was high on the agenda. The meeting in Saudi Arabia was in fact connected to that meeting because in that meeting he met with three billionaires amongst Sam Altman, Larry Ellison from Oracle, and there was a banker from Japan. But in that meeting, if we recall, the commitment was to $500 billion to build out complete some that’s already underway, but to build out 10 major AI data centers across America, the purpose for which would be to have massive computing by which artificial intelligence centers would collect data from all sources.

And these other guys were involved in some of that collecting of the sources of information from your cell phone, from surveillance cameras, and even they talk about the camera on a police officer’s vest to what is on his dash cam to what’s sitting on cameras across the country at stoplights to all of these things all connected. And they talked about the connecting of all health records with ultimately this AI, these databases being able to compute and house massive information, ultimately replacing doctors in the doctor’s office that you’re a license, your passport, real id, which is now coming to pass under this administration, didn’t stop. It will be fused, all connected and ultimately connected to banking and currency, digitized currency. Your AI has the ability to take and all put all of those together and basically run the world and actually run individuals’ lives. It’s these same people that some were in the White House that have been a part of the discussion that chose to go to Saudi Arabia.

Right now, the United States is the leader in AI. China’s a close second in some cases, China in its application of ai, through all of the tracking and social credit scores of their over a billion people are actually in application more actively directing people’s lives. But the United States is viewed as the number one in ai. China, the close second, and believe it or not, who’s number three, Saudi Arabia. But at the moment, the nation that is the leader in the development of ai, not the implementation of it, but the development of it is United Arab Emirates. So that’s the third country. So this is about technology. It’s very clearly it’s about technology, the transhumanism part of it, or when folks like Elon Musk want to take and put a chip in your brain, and he’s talked about that. He views that as being a common thing and will be happening Nvidia, one of the folks at the Saudi Arabia thing make the chips.

The chips are the things that will go into hands or heads or brains or however for the purpose of actually fusing technology with the human body. And that is the definition of transhumanism. It’s the fusing of a machine with human body. And I’ll just stop here. Those who are promoting this transhumanism, and it goes back to before the covid shot, the individual from the World Economic Forum made it very clear numbers of them talked about the purpose with all of that was to inject things within people that had metallic components to it that would be connected to a system to actually connect the body to technology. They were talking about it. This is further acting out transhumanism. And the bottom line is from their own words, bottom line, they think they’re God and they think they can do better and make people better, then God can.

So that is why we can now they think infuse technology into the brain, into the human body because we can do a job better than God. Actually, Yuval Harari, who is the philosophical guy behind all of this from Israel, a humanist, very anti-God atheist individual, said, let’s be clear people. We have reached a point where we now are God. I believe that’s the heart of it. And I believe at the end of the day, that’s the Prophetical connection from the biblical worldview part. These pieces we’re seeing coming together because ultimately no biblically, they will be a part of the antichrist system that will allow an individual with a system to literally make everybody do his will or they will not buy or sell. This, I believe is what we are watching and we’re watching pieces of it unfold but unfolding very

Isaac Crockett:

Quickly. Well, thank you for that context and explanation because as we watch this, there’s so much more many times than what meets the eye. When we look at the context, when we look at the people involved, not just what they’re saying, but what they’re doing and who’s there. It’s very helpful. One thing I really want to get to is this new leader in Syria. He’s accused of being an operative, a terrorist for Al-Qaeda in his past. His name is Ahmed Al Shara, and he’s also been accused of persecuting Christians. Trump has done some things to seemingly to try to help the nation of Syria. Right now he’s called this leader. He says he has a strong past or like saying a colorful past, but he’s called him a fighter. And even a young attractive guy, he said, what do you make out of the way that Trump has been dealing with this new Syrian leadership?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, from a pragmatic perspective, which we’ve talked about before, our president is driven by pragmatics. He’s a pragmatist. A pragmatist would look at this and would say, well, I can do this and I can do this, and I can ultimately bring it all together at the end. But pragmatism is a setting aside by definition of truth. It’s a problem. This individual, and I’m looking at a picture of him here right now, interestingly enough, he was actually born in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. That’s where he was born, spent a lot of his time in Syria, but he is Sunni Muslim, but he was a part of the revolutionary opposition to the Assad family. He is a terrorist, but he now wears a tie, but he has not changed his ideology. And so many, many folks in Israel are very, very upset at this as an example, as others who know what’s going on.

Because this individual, since he took over in Syria from the Assad family, has killed more Christians and more Alawites  than Assad ever did. Assad actually protected them. This guy is killing them, and he’s in league with Erdogan from Turkey, and Turkey wants the destruction of Israel. And so he’s linked to Erdogan and Turkey, but he’s also a terrorist by heart and by upbringing in every regard. So anyone’s looking at it saying, wait a minute. You think you can trust him? You’re going to work with him president, rather than taking the pressure off of him. It’s almost like taking pressure, lifting the sanctions off of Iran.

Isaac Crockett:

Real quick, Trump said he’s lifting sanctions partly because of Erdogan and Turkey as well as Saudi Arabia encouraging him. What do you think about that?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, of course Erdogan would encourage it because Erdogan wants to take over and he’s basically the main controller, not this guy of Syria. And Erdogan though has some connection to NATO yet, but really he’s not a part of NATO, and he has very stated, very clearly, he’s a supporter of Hamas. He wants to destroy Israel. He’s planning Israel right now is anticipating an engagement militarily with Syria, with Turkey in Syria. So it’s kind of like, all right, this is an enemy. Can we really make a deal and trust the enemy who has sworn to kill us? That’s the mixed question in everything that’s happening out of that. So some may say, well, good for Syria, get them back on their feet. But others say bad for everybody else because Syria is an enemy of all that is free under this guy.

Isaac Crockett:

Well, this trip has certainly raised a lot of questions and as you said, mixed reactions to our president and to what he’s doing as well as what he’s saying, as well as who he’s got with them. Just so many layers right now that we’re going through and we don’t have time to get through all of it. But when we come back from this last break, we do want to wrap things up and close with some solutions to some of this and some final thoughts to part with. So don’t go away. We’ll be right back on Stand in the Gap today. Well, welcome back to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and I’m with the Honorable Sam Rohrer asking him questions. But what we’ve seen going on in the Arab states this week with this four day tour trip that President Donald Trump has taken that he’s finishing up now, Sam, you were saying that there’s been mixed reactions and there’s so many different things going on, and again, pointing out the people who are there and what they’re after and what they’re getting.

It really is, it’s important for us to see that it’s important that you explained it to us so that we can have a better idea of some of what’s going on in some ways behind the scenes and in some ways right in front of our eyes. But even for those who are supportive of President Trump, I think it’s clear that we could still say there have been mixed reactions to this trip and to what has happened, what’s been unfolding on this trip. On the one hand, you have people cheering on what they see as Donald Trump, the ultimate deal maker, the guy who wrote the Art of the Deal, and they’re glad to see that America is being respected on the world stage that we’re projecting strength. But on the other hand, you have, again, even his own supporters who are concerned that maybe he’s getting too cozy with some of these countries, especially as we were just talking about Syria in some ways by that Turkey.

And these are countries including Saudi Arabia and Qatar and different ones that are very, very strict and even persecuting Christians, so especially in Syria. So some are worried about that. And then there are some people worried that Trump, and maybe some are afraid he doesn’t even realize it, but it might be a trap form that he’s enriching himself by going to these places. There’s been talk about this fancy luxury jet that Qatar is offering Trump and things. So just how we, maybe you could sum up, we’ve had the whole program, we’re talking about it, and I feel like we have hours more of questions we could go through, but maybe you could just give a quick summary of your thoughts on this trip as it’s winding up.

Sam Rohrer:

Sure. Isaac, I think this trip should be viewed as a piece on a longer continuum. We look at things, in this case a presidential term, so we think four years or depending, it’s almost say the speed by which the president is operating is really fast because at the end of the day, if something is going to work, it’s going to have to work because you’ve got a midterm election in two years. So we tend to think in terms of elections, two year cycles, four year cycles, but God looks at things totally differently. We’ve talked about on the program with other guests and so forth that our mindset generally as Americans, we look at things differently. If you can’t get it right now, you don’t do it politically. That’s been the way it is for a long time. Ideals principles are not what guide it, it’s the pragmatism of the moment.

It’s what I can get by the next time or by the next moment. Whereas, or countries, for instance, China, they think generationally that’s the way they have always been. I say We will take our time, but they stay on task. The Russians, the Russian Empire of the old days, they think differently, and so they negotiate differently with us. So all those perspectives need to be bear in mind, and I think every wise person should do that. But beyond that, whether you refer to other countries or other leaders now come tomorrow or in the past, in every case. One thing we know biblically, and I rehearse this continually in my mind, we must understand that when it comes to leaders in positions of authority, we think that ends all the politics are the end all. And where a nation right now is the end all. It’s not nations come and go.

That’s what all the prophecy was, was Daniel. God showed him the nations of the world to come. That’s God’s plan. He gave us a little bit of an insight. We know that God raises up leaders and he puts them down. So even though we have an election, and even though things occur the way they are, ultimately it’s God who raises up and as God who puts down. And the other thought is that the Bible tells us that the heart of the king is in the hand of the Lord and like rivers of water, he moves it with whatsoever he will. So God will move the heart of the king. And what’s that mean? It will influence his decisions. What are the King’s decisions? Well, they come as edicts, regulations, laws, policies, the kind of statements, pronouncements that are made by our president when he goes to the Middle East and says, this is what we’re going to do.

Those are pronouncement. But God is moving in the hearts of the Saudis, the Syrian King, Russia, China President Trump. Right now, president Trump is center stage. That’s why God’s doing the United States is center stage right now. That’s of God’s doing. But at the same time, we’re seeing that because of all this taking place, the coalitions of nations are changing. Even our friends right now because of the way things are done just last week, Japan, Philippines, our friends, India more our friend than China’s friend perhaps, but all of them all agreed in regard to the currency. They’re moving away from our dollar. And I’ve said, I’ve heard them in meetings. Their leaders stand and say, you know what? We’re too much. We’re too much under the thumb of America. We’ve got to take care of ourselves. Now they’re our friends, but they are moving away from us because all of the things that we are seeing.

But at the end of the day, it’s the heart of the king that’s in God’s hands. And God is allowing the nations and has been moving the nations for the last many years into an exact alignment of what he says the nations will be in, and the factors that will be in place prior to the Lord’s return at the beginning of the tribulation period, which I think is right at hand for many, many reasons. So that is how I look at these things, and I don’t get overly concerned. Most, a lot of what we hear is not the whole truth anyways. We’re looking at so many deep fake things that are happening that it’s not really the case. I’m looking at what I see, comparing it to scripture and then comparing with other things that are happening and say, I may know the whole truth.

I may not know the whole truth. I may perceive what is accurate. I may not be perceiving, but Lord give me direction into what is taking place. And I’m finding that good believers that I’ve gotten to know all around the world are basically approaching things the same way. And they’re thinking through and talking about the same things frankly, as we did today. That’s where they are too. And I believe that is an indication of the Holy Spirit at work. But at the end of the day, the word of God gives us the standard and the Holy Spirit is still our guide. We need to pray for wisdom at all times.

Isaac Crockett:

Amen. We have about a minute left. I would love to have you close us in prayer, maybe if you have any things we should be praying for to mention before we close the program.

Sam Rohrer:

Well, Isaac, I am just go ahead and close and prayer because I think we need that. Heavenly Father, thank you for the ability and the opportunity to speak all across the country today. Lord, your people are in the very same condition regardless of where they live in the world. Now we’re speaking to mostly believers in America, but we’re also speaking right now to people who are in Africa and in Eastern Europe and other places. So Lord, at all places, those who know you, may we look to your word, may we not be driven by the fear of the age, which is designed to create fear where people trust not in you, but in government or in some politician or in some policy. Lord, you are our trust. Your word gives us what we need. Give us the wisdom we pray, and Jesus’ name, amen.

Isaac Crockett:

Amen. Thank you for that, Sam. And on behalf of everybody here at the team at American Pastors Network and stand in the Gap media, thank you for listening. Thank you for praying for us. We ask that you would continue to pray for APN and for stand in the gap media. And until next time, I hope and pray that you will stand in the gap for truth wherever you are. Thanks so much.