Is it Instability, Transition, or Both?

Is it Instability, Transition, or Both?

July 7, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: J.R. McGee

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 7/07/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand In the Gap Today. And I trust that all of you had a wonderful July 4th weekend because for so many as in those in Guadalupe River region of Texas, the weekend was anything but wonderful. And I know by now that all of you listening to me are likely very well aware of the historic flooding and the significant loss of life, not just of many adults, but so many children who were in attendance, particularly at the Mystic Christian Girls camp there. Lives were changed forever in that event with only the Lord knowing at this point the full purposes and impacts. So as we begin our program today, because everything else that we’re going to talk about today is very important, but it pales for those families and those people involved in that regard. So let’s continue to pray for the families involved.

I hope you are. Some of you may even know folks that are there. Actually my wife’s cousins, some of the children were involved at that camp. They made it to safety. So a lot of us are touched in various ways, but we can pray for them and that even in the midst of this event, that God will be glorified and that people are brought to a recognition of, if nothing else, the brevity of life and the necessity for personal. And this is most important for personal and national repentance and a calling out to God in faith for salvation in Jesus Christ. That should be the walkaway, I believe, for every person who is listening. So with that in place, we’ll try to pray for this at the end of the program. Today, however, is also our monthly focus on national security and geopolitics and prophecy with the current guest, JR McGee, as you all know, he is a military counter-terrorism strategist.

He’s a trainer of some of our finest military guys, seals and delta force personnel and is also founder and CEO of Extreme Leadership Group. If there’s one characteristic that marks the political, the governmental, the financial, the economic and societal landscapes, be they here in America or in Europe or the Middle East, yes, it’s the entire global landscape. I’m saying it would be the characteristic perhaps of instability. And within that instability of course is uncertainty and unpredictability and an increasing level of fear always accompanies that types of things. And with that, there is some aspect of change and it’s this observation that’ll undergird today’s conversation here in Standing the Gap today. The title I’ve chosen to guide our focus here today is this, is It Instability Transition or Both. And with that, JR to the program, we have so much to go over today.

J.R. McGee:

We do Sam, but I would also like to add my condolences and my prayers to the family members and the citizens of the Guadalupe River Valley. Our hearts go out to you and our prayers support you. God doesn’t let anything happen by accident, just know that he has a purpose and a plan for all of this.

Sam Rohrer:

Yeah, thank you JR. We have many listeners that are down in Oklahoma and the Texas area that are touched by this and so appropriate that you share what you share and I do as well. Ladies and gentlemen, all around the world, if you listen to the program, do pray for these people JR. Let me just set it up this way. You and I both know as we’re looking at the world, our own nation, any of these areas I mentioned, when you put it all in perspective through the lens of a biblical worldview, biblical perspective, it takes on a different look than what the world has. And we’re going to do that because we know at the end of the day, change is happening. Change has happened from the fall there in the Garden of Eden, but under God’s economy, the change, the transition, even the instability we’re talking about goes somewhere. And that’s where we’re going to talk about, although we analyze, let’s start here in the Middle East, JR. The world’s attention has been so riveted there these past several weeks. What do you see as the most significant indications of instability in the Middle East and why

J.R. McGee:

Sam? It is very complex and it’s very easy to get distracted by all of the flood of details that are coming in. It’s ironic that floods seem to be dominating the news, both weather floods and floods of information. But if you look at what’s just occurred with Israel and Iran, the bombing damage and the mission success out there was spectacular. From a technical point of view, I find it hard though to call this a victory for five different reasons. One, Iran did not give up the pursuit of nuclear weapons. Iran didn’t promise to stop her pursuit of nuclear technology, and Iran didn’t even promise to stop supporting Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad or the Houthis. And for the record last night and this morning, the Houthis and the Hamas had been trading rockets and bombing attacks between Israel and them. So it’s not peace breaking out everywhere yet.

And fourth, Israel didn’t get a single hostage back as a result of ceasing hostilities with Iran. Now it’s hard to call that a victory. What I would say is that we won the battle, but this is the beginning of a long war and Iran is still extremely dangerous and the Bible clearly tells us Iran is going to emerge from this as a very powerful threat to Israel in the free world in the coming days. Now on the positive side, there’s movement with the Abrahamic accords, the UAE Morocco and Bahrain already signed it looks like Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Oman and Egypt are moving towards signing, but they’re looking for some specific things and I believe this meeting between Netanyahu and Donald Trump today may lay some of the ground work for a ceasefire agreement that will allow some of these other Middle Eastern countries to get on board with that.

That’s change, that’s dramatic change its political change, and I believe that the political dynamic of the Middle East is changing by the moment. It’s interesting to see how the United States president is driving this boat as opposed to what we’ve seen for the past four years where everybody says, oh, there’s nothing we can do. There’s a lot we can do if we just do the right thing in the right area for the right reason. People are looking for leadership, people are hungry for leadership, and whoever supplies that leadership, you’re going to find there’s a lot of people that will get behind that. Sam,

Sam Rohrer:

That is correct. And yes, we know that even as we speak right now, we’re going to talk about ladies and gentlemen a little bit later down in Rio De Janeiro, there’s a meeting the BRICKS nations have meeting. They’re actually also talking about the Middle East. They’re talking about what they want as a solution to bring about peace and it’s totally different, absolutely, totally different than what Israel is pursuing and what the president has said up to this point. But JR that’s just another example. There are a lot of people wanting to bring resolve to these areas of instability, but it doesn’t look like any of them are actually going to achieve it anytime real soon.

J.R. McGee:

I think that because these issues go so deep and they’re religious in nature and they go to the principle values that different people hold, it’s easy to negotiate and compromise on things that are economic or things that don’t matter. People find it very difficult to compromise on things that go to the very core of their belief system.

Sam Rohrer:

There you go. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with it. Our theme today is this, is it instability, transition or both? We’re going to go now to another area of the world, the far east of which China is a major player, instability in the Far East. Well, if you’re just joining us today, JR McGee is my guest again today as we look at things from a global perspective and today we’re focusing on the greater global condition as marked by the characteristic of instability. As you know, if you listen to the program, we try to choose a theme, a title to focus, and to frame our discussions. Because this program’s only an hour long. We don’t have that much time in what we address and highlight. We try to resolve biblically, not let things hang. So it kind of helps us as a roadmap to put together a title and then build things around it.

So when you listen to the program, there is a purpose, there’s a direction that’s behind it and that goes into the planning. I thought I would just throw that out. So the theme today is this, is it instability, transition or both? And by the end of the program, we’ll answer that full question, but what does that word actually mean? Instability? Well, by definition, instability means it’s a lack of stability or lack of purpose as evidenced by changing laws or changing policies, changing plans, that’s instability. Now, in essence, according to the Webster’s 1828 dictionary where I go quite regularly, instability they say is characteristic of weak minds. That’s interesting, isn’t it? Characteristic of weak minds, but with instability, I’m going to say comes insecurity more than often. And from insecurity, meaning by definition, lack of confidence in safety comes instability. Now for the believer, we know that safety is only of the Lord.

Proverbs 2131 says this, the horse is prepared against the day of battle, but safety is of the Lord. So by believer we know that it’s only of the Lord. Safety is insecurity comes from all who place their faith in fleeting wealth and vain promises of political leaders or deceptive promises of the world. And from this insecurity comes the cultivated ground, I’m going to say of instability and change and transition from just simply one condition to another. Now, doesn’t that represent life? It really does. JR, with these observations in mind, let’s move now to another region of the world, the far East, which everyone listening knows is dominated by communist China, which as we’ve discussed many, many times before, is also the nation and ideology, which poses from a human perspective anyways, probably the largest single threat to our nation here. But what do you see as the most significant indications of instability and why is it as it relates to China and its ambitions in that part of the world?

J.R. McGee:

Sam, it’s very interesting, but for people who are looking deep behind the scenes, it’s becoming obvious. Xi Jinping is showing some real signs of losing control of the CCP, which is the communist party of China and his economic control of China. He’s very desperate and determined that he will get Taiwan, and that represents an incredibly high tech manufacturing capability that China desperately needs that they don’t have. China has becoming extremely aggressive in their actions in both the South China Sea and with Taiwan. This is manifested by drastically increased airspace violations, naval encirclement exercises, highly aggressive ballistic missile tests. They’re calling them tests, but they’re shooting ballistic missiles just over the island to hitting the sea just beyond Taiwan, and they’re ramping up some significant cyber warfare attacks against the Taiwanese infrastructure. China’s also drastically increased the US aircraft and naval ship intercepts, and they’re using some incredibly dangerous maneuvers to try to discourage the US from air and sea navigation through the South China Sea.

China, right this moment is very unstable. They’re trying to give the impression and the perspective of power and control, but people who are worried about staying in power almost always try to deflect people’s anger towards an external foe, and in this case the United States and Taiwan, they’re also behind some very serious threats to the United States infrastructure. I’m kind of surprised they haven’t already engaged in this to be honest, but I do believe that Donald Trump has given them some real pause with this attack on Iran and with Trump’s aggressive tone toward NATO, this has really caused Xi Jinping in particular and the CCP in general to sit back and think about what they’re doing because they didn’t expect for the United States to be nearly as definitive and decisive as they have been. But I think that China sees this window of opportunities closing in regards to Taiwan because the United States is providing Taiwan with more missile defense systems, military capabilities, and I believe we’re developing a new emphasis on rebuilding our Navy. In fact, in addition to the big beautiful bill, they’re talking about another bill that they’re going to be putting through Congress called the, I believe they’re calling it the Bill Navy Act. They’re looking at putting $150 billion towards building a lot more naval ships because no matter where we go, the next big war is going to involve the Navy and we’re drastically under-prepared for the Navy. China’s beginning to see this ability to bring Taiwan home slipping away, and this combined with g stating authority makes the coming conflict with Taiwan more likely, not less likely.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, and that’s interesting because let’s go back to this a little bit. We’ve talked about it in other programs JR, but let’s go back to the motivation of China. Every nation has a motivation for us in the United States. I mean it varies. Some of us who know the Lord would like a continuance of this nation as it was once dedicated to God because we, that’s where blessing comes, but frankly, those who run America don’t believe that anymore. So they’re pragmatists. So the rest of the world, China looks at the West and say, you are just concerned about expanding the empire of the West. The West looks to the east and says, well, China just wants to reengage and expand its empire desires of the past as an example. But what do you think really is motivating China? Because obviously they want to control the Far East as an economic area because you put all those countries together, there’s a lot of economic activity. Do they want to diminish the United States or just keep the United States out of their corner of the world? What do you think,

J.R. McGee:

Sam? You have to look back at the strategic history of China. 5,000 years ago, China ruled the world. China had the best technology, they had the best military. They dominated the known world at that time from their perspective, and they believe with all their heart today, it’s their right. They believe that their divine right to dominate the world is given to them, and they believe that everything that they need to be doing is to regain that position. And they honestly believe that they’re just as powerful as the United States, and they believe that the United States is not capable of running the world anymore. We’ve lost the confidence of a lot of countries because of some of the decisions we’ve made, and China honestly believes they could do a better job running the world using their system rather than our system of freedom and democracy. So they see it both as a divine right, they see it as a more economical, more efficient way of running the world.

They believe that if they’re destined to lead and they don’t want United States just to keep in our lane, they want to be the sole dominant superpower in the world. Everything that they’re doing is moving towards that. In fact, I believe that as they make this move on Taiwan, they’re going to ask Russia to attack NATO. There’s a lot of information out there. None of this is classified. I don’t talk about any classified information on this show or any other show in the white world, but in the news media, you can find information that clearly indicates that China’s strategy is to create another two front war because they realize the United States can no longer fight a multi-front two war conflict. We just don’t have the capability anymore.

So if they can get Russia to attack NATO, they can move on Taiwan, and it guarantees them a far better chance of being able to take Taiwan. And here’s why Taiwan is so important to China. It is not just an island, it’s not just the pride of it. Taiwan manufactures more than 90% of all of the high tech chips and electronic circuits that are used to run the electronics on all of our devices, our computers, our cell phones, our TVs, the internet routers, everything pretty much comes from Taiwan. If China can overtake that and control that technology, China then controls all the information and the communications and the electronics for the whole world that gives them the dominant position that they believe that they need to run the world and they will be able to blackmail the rest of the world. If you don’t do what we say, we’ll just turn off your systems. That’s their strategy,

Sam Rohrer:

JR and Jr.

J.R. McGee:

Very good strengths toward achieving that. Yeah,

Sam Rohrer:

And JR that’s interesting because they and the rest of the world views America as trying to control the world through the use of our dollar, which we have, but they know that there are certain things from certain minerals that are necessary or chips as you’re talking about, that we have to have. So if they control that, they can control us, ladies and gentlemen, the leaders of the world without God or only interested in what advances them, greed, covetousness, power control, that is the system of the world, and that’s what we’re seeing unfold. Now when we come back, we’ve gone to the Middle East, gone to the far East, we’re going to go now to the other hotspot that is in Europe, Eastern Europe, Ukraine, Russia, NATO. If you’re just joining us today, JR McGee and I are together and we’re taking a, like we generally do say more of a geopolitical look at the headline news of the day that then have a global impact.

And we always move in and through that, the thread of biblical prophecy because as we say so regularly, if you’ve been a listener for a long time, you remember when Jimmy de Young used to be with us on the program, he passed away. Now obviously, as you know, but he was with us for a long time, but we used to say that was nothing better than taking the newspaper on one hand and the word of God in the other, and we don’t use that phrase all the time, but it’s the idea, the headline news is the newspaper, the biblical worldview is the word of God. You cannot understand and bring into clarity what is happening around us without looking at it through the lens of scripture. Your controlled media, every politician I know of that on a national level that they’re all speaking from the world’s view, and they may have truth from time to time, but by and large, they’re off mark.

They’re not going at the bullseye because the bullseye is God’s word and where God is moving his plan. And so there was just some thoughts to put out there, but that’s why we do what we do. But let’s go back here. Now we’re going to go to the Eastern Europe, but since the fall of the Iron Curtain and the resultant reorganization of the former Soviet Union, this is not just my view, what I’m saying here, the controlled media doesn’t view it this way, but the intelligence entities that came out of that period of time, C-I-A, M-I6 from UK, Mossad from Israel came into being. Then those three work together, they create the west form of intelligence. They all work together. But out of that came the presenting of the specter of Russia as the eternal enemy of Europe and the West. And you’ll see that that’s happened, of course, and of course this matured, I want to say the now proven treasonous actions.

I’m glad to share some people now using that word treasonous because it is of the US national security apparatus when they came up with a fake Russian dossier, remember, and efforts against the current president, remember, that’s all been proven now. Totally false, and it was this entity that did that. Okay? Now from this effort was also born the Ukraine War and the now driving efforts of NATO to move into full scale war mode, which they are in order to counter well counter what? Well, the narrative that Russia is preparing to take over all of Europe. Now whether they are or they’re not, different matter, but that’s the narrative. So what’s it create instability and war and rumors of war. So that exists, whether that’s in the Middle East as we’ve talked about, the far East as we just talked about, or in Europe. Now that is a backdrop, JR, let’s move now to the, again, eastern Europe where the West and Russia are engaging each other in the nation of Ukraine. What do you see there as the most significant indicators of instability and why? Starting with of course now Ukraine and Russia, but it obviously extending clearly into NATO, so take it from there.

J.R. McGee:

Absolutely to give the devil his due. The Russian economy’s better now than it was when Joe Biden threatened to destroy the ruble by putting sanctions into place. So economically, they’ve done quite well, but militarily and with their population, Russia is in big trouble. Putin is clearly fighting what I call a war of attrition in Ukraine. It’s not what he thought he’d be doing. Let’s face it, Putin thought he would be welcomed in open arms in Ukraine and the whole thing would be over in three. Well, that didn’t work out nearly the way he thought it would. Ukraine has done far better than anybody thought possible, and that shouldn’t surprise people who understand the history of Ukraine. I love working with seals and Delta and Secret service. I’ve done that most of my life. I remember those days very fondly, but the Russian equivalent, ISPE Notts and the very best spe Notts troops in Russia, the former Warsaw Pact came from Ukraine.

They are incredible fighters, and when they’re fighting for their homeland, they have been particularly fierce. And you’ve got numbers that go from depending on who you look at and where you get your source of news, they can be very low or very high. There’s a lot of propaganda out there, but the most credible numbers I can find right now from an independent source says that in the last three years, Russia has lost over a million troops, 1,000,020 6,000 more than 250,000 of those killed three quarters of a million wounded. That’s an incredible number of people to lose. In three years. They’ve lost almost 11,000 tanks, 23,000 armored vehicles, 30,000 artillery systems, over 1200 anti-aircraft artillery and rocket systems, 421 airplanes, 340 helicopters. I could keep going. They’ve lost ships, they’ve lost command ships. They’ve even lost the submarine. They’ve lost six, a minimum of six of their strategic bombers that they can’t afford to lose the tutu 22 and the TU 95 are no longer in production. They can’t replace those. These are simply unsustainable, and the Russian people are beginning to openly rebel against this level of slaughter.

Vladimir Putin is in big trouble politically, but to be fair, the Ukrainian losses have been horrendous as well. Not nearly at the same level as Russian, but far more than they are willing to sustain. But the Ukrainians have found a way to maximize drones and technology, and to their credit, they’ve revolutionized the modern battlefield forever. Everybody including the United States is rapidly getting on board this drone boat because we can’t afford to get left behind. But Ukraine cannot sustain these losses and in a war of attrition without the United States and NATO supporting them, I think Ukraine’s going to collapse first. That’s what keeps Putin hanging on.

Now, Putin cannot stop because he’s got virtually nothing to show for these losses so far. He would be overthrown in hours. Sam, if he accepted any settlement, did not include significant territory gains and resources acquired. I honestly believe this is why he’s resisting Trump in these peace talks. He can’t survive without a significant win, and he’s in an incredibly vulnerable position right now. And as we just said, in China, instability and uncertainty makes people desperate and determined, and that’s what we’re seeing with Russia. Now, the NATO alliance has just agreed to increase their spending on the NATO material up to 5% of their budget, 3% on hardware, one and a half to 2% on information, cybersecurity, things of that nature. This is outstanding, but it’s too late. I mean, by the time they put these things into place, I think a lot of this stuff is going to be over and done with.

It takes time to build, design, build, test and field these kinds of systems, but it’s incredible how the world is reacting to Russia and how the world is reacting to China. And you mentioned earlier BRICKS. I want to come back to that for just a second. Not only is China driving BRICKS , but China’s also driving BRICKS to attack the United States dollar. They’re trying to find a way to find a substitute for the American dollar, which would completely destabilize the US economy and collapse it. That’s another way of waging economic warfare on the United States. All of these things are related. They’re all connected, and they’re all going to have a big impact on every one of us here in the United States.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, and JR

J.R. McGee:

And Russia is big.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, now, before we get out of this segment, I want to bring these together. You talked about China. You talked been last about China actually saying perhaps Russia to attack NATO in order to allow distraction for China to do something against Taiwan. This is the part I want to connect here right now, because over the last months, years, particularly last months, the alliance between Russia, Eastern Europe, hotspot, the Middle East, Iran and China, far east, that alliance throw in North Korea for the sake of it actually throw in Turkey perhaps because of the US bombing of Iran, you have an alliance that’s now the coming together that really neither one of them, any of them can afford to let their other partner fall. It almost seems like we’re increasingly seeing a very strong knit unit of four instead of just Russia. You’re talking all of that group and just China, you’re talking all of that group strategically. Comment on that please.

J.R. McGee:

It is an alliance that’s been building for quite some time. I’ve been telling people for a long time now, several years that Turkey was moving out of the NATO alliance, and if you remember, a lot of people laughed at me and discounted that when I spoke of that on the show and other forums. But now we clearly see Turkey has left. They’re only in NATO in name only. But here’s an interesting thing. When Israel and the United States attacked Iran, Russia did not come to Iran’s defense. China did not come to Iran’s defense. Turkey did not come to Iran’s defense. There is some mutual suspicion in all of that. This alliance is clearly being established for political gains, but there’s not the level of trust there yet to have everybody be all in on this. And it’s kind of interesting how it’s all developing. You have to look behind the stories. You got to look behind the scenes and see what’s actually being done more than you look at what’s being said, Sam. It’s very complex and it is happening very quickly,

Sam Rohrer:

But yes, it is, and we’re out of time. Yes it is. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. Could we come back? There’s one other area. We’ve talked about these regional areas of instability. I’m going to take even a bigger picture now, global instability and tried to bring all of these areas together now,

Well, today our focus has been on providing evidence, put it that way, of instability as a leading characteristic leading to the headline news of the day. So we went to the Middle East, we went to the far east with China, gone to Europe with Ukraine and Russia and NATO, and America obviously is involved in the midst of that. We’ve talked a little bit about BRICKS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and their effort to actually create an alternative as they say to the dollar, but it’s actually creating new economic regions of the world to challenge the world order as we have known it to be. But in any event, change and uncertainty and instability is not just regional. As we’ve gone to these regions, it truly is global and it’s more so than I remember in my life and of course the communications that we have now because it makes everything instantaneous.

We know more than what a generation did a year ago. We know it quicker. Matter of fact, JR my guest today and I were just talking before the program about how much information is coming out so quickly that we can’t stay up with it. Even in preparing for this program, things happened in just this morning and it’s changing everything. So you get my point. I don’t know what’s going on and makes most people just say, well, I’m just going to tune it out and just forget about it. That’s not acceptable, by the way. But as I earlier suggested instability, which most always precedes a culture of lawlessness, chaos, and frankly immorality and evil of all types, which by the way is how Jesus describes the end days to be our days. All of these things arise from a sense of insecurity where insecurity arises from a rejection of God and truth and God’s word because I cited from Proverbs 2131, the horses are prepared for the day of battle, but safety is of the Lord. Security is only found in God through salvation and trust in Christ. So even in the midst of all that we’re talking about, those of us who know the Lord should feel as if our feet are firmly grounded. Okay, now, JR moving from the Middle East to the far East to Europe, let’s just talk about now, put some of these things into the global perspective and reach back and touch on some of the things we’ve already talked about. Throw in the new items, please,

J.R. McGee:

Sam. It is. It’s the entire world. We could spend three hours talking about the global instability and we only have a few minutes, but let me just try to touch on what I think are the big three that are driving things right now. Number one, this issue of tariffs is changing the game that the world’s been playing since 1960s. America’s always been seen as the land of extreme wealth and deep pockets. I’d have to tell you, I think we are and continue to be the most generous nation in the history of the world. No one has given more donated, more finance, more or been more proactive and cata, I’m sorry, catastrophic events around the world as Americans have case in point, we’re moving heaven and earth right now to go help these people in Texas, and if this was in any other part of the world, we would be doing the same thing.

We’re so kindhearted. We’re at the point of being easily taken advantage of and taken for granted. The strategy with these tariffs is to go in very high and negotiate down to a rate that both sides can agree on, so that rebalances the financial equation. So far, I think this strategy has resulted in several extraordinary agreements that have drastically reshaped trade between the US. Some of our partners, there’s two exceptions to this so far, and one’s China, the other’s Canada, but I honestly believe Trump’s strategy is going to work in those as well. This whole issue with Europe is under dramatic restructuring, not just the tariffs, but the NATO alliance is being reset this agreement to spend 5% of GDP with the exception of Spain, which I don’t think we’ve heard the last of that yet. It’s huge. The European countries are going to have to change the way they budget.

They’re going to have to change the way they manage. They’re going to have to change the way they lead. Unfortunately, I think some of the European countries are saying they’re going to do this, but they’re not necessarily going to follow through, and I think that’s a shame because these threats are real. The instability this is injecting into not only Western Europe, but how Europe engages with both Russia and other threats around the world. That’s dramatic and it lasts, but certainly not least, the signing of this big beautiful Bill injects instability of its own. It’s going to have some significant instability on units in United States. Almost all of our social constructs are going to be affected by this. The violence by those that are opposed to this is increasing. The battle over the soul and the future for the United States is fully underway. I have to say the right thinks they’ve won with more than just a little justification, but this is simply one battle in a full scale war. It is not over. This situation’s going to becoming increasingly fluid and the opposition always gets a vote and how things turn out as you look through this, Sam, the one thing that’s certain is that there’s no certainty. Nobody is on top. Nobody’s in full control. Everybody’s fighting, and frankly, while we’ve been on the air, there’s been yet another gunman that’s attacked the US border patrol in full tactical gear.

The willingness to turn to violence when somebody disagrees with your political beliefs is stunning to me. I’m used to that in warfare. I’m not used to that in political discourse. It just points to how severe all these changes are, Sam.

Sam Rohrer:

Yes, it does, and we’re about out of time, and I’m going to ask you to pray to close us and pray for those in Texas we talked about earlier, but ladies and gentlemen actually JR give a response, look at the time so we don’t run out. But again, back to this question, instability, transition or both. Quick response to that and then close us in prayer.

J.R. McGee:

We do know that the Bible tells us the United States is not in the future picture. Russia or Iran are going to rise from this stronger and more powerful than ever before. But we also know that Israel is going to be protected by God himself as a student of strategy. I’m amazed at how the seemingly unrelated actions all over the world are directly related and how they’re going to directly affect every man, woman, and child here in the United States. Watching God’s word come to life only excites me. It proves to me that a book that’s been right about everything in the past proving itself to be right about everything today can absolutely be trusted to be right about everything that’s going to be coming to pass. God’s moving in a powerful way, Sam. I don’t think I’ve got the faith it would take to be an atheist in the face of such overwhelming evidence.

Dear heavenly Father, we thank you for who you are. We thank you for being a God of majesty and mercy. We thank you for being a God of providence and protection. We thank you for having a plan. We don’t always understand that plan, Lord. We don’t always know why, but we do always know who. And as long as we focus on the who, the why is not nearly as important. But Lord, I pray particularly for the people and the men and the women in the community in Texas that have undergone such tremendous loss and such devastation. Be with them, be with their families. Give them strength. Give them protection. Give them encouragement. Give them hope, help hold them up, Lord, so that they can see you through all of this, and through this tragedy, people will see how they need you in their lives even more than ever. I hope that we use these things that are happening in the world today to turn our focus towards you and to see your plan of salvation is the only thing that matters. It’s the only thing that’s important. Lord, help us to see you in everything that we do and realize you are the only one that we can turn to for protection, for hope, and for guidance. In Jesus Christ’s name we pray, amen.

Sam Rohrer:

Amen and amen. JR McGee, thank you so much for being with me again today. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us today. I hope that this current headline analysis in light of God’s word and how JR has just prayed, and we’ve talked that in the midst of all of this, that you are grounded, confident, fearing God, and through all things, giving him the glory. And when that is the case, we know exactly how things will only work out, and I pray that that is the wave for.