In the Balance: Global Elections and Human Rights

In the Balance: Global Elections and Human Rights

July 12, 2024

Host: Dr. Isaac Crockett

Co-host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Shaheryar Gill

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 7/12/24. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Isaac Crockett:   Hello, I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and joining me today is the Honorable Sam Rohr, the president of the American Pastors Network and regular host of this program Staying in the Gap Today, and we want to talk today about what is going on. There’s a lot really, as you could say in the balance as we look at global elections and human rights. We have a special guest with us today, but we want to talk about this year 2024. We had a program about more elections this year than maybe any other year. I think the majority of the world having some kind of election this year or the officers are just newly elected this year. And so we just had a big round of European elections we want to talk about and we want to look at things that are going on internationally with Benjamin Netanyahu and other things, and to help us do some of this is Shaheryar Gill. He’s an attorney. He’s senior counsel at the American Center for Law and Justice. We often just refer to them by his ACL J. He oversees their Virginia Beach office and he leads their international legal team. He also is involved with ECLJ, the European Center for Law and Justice, and he’s in charge of their affiliate office in Pakistan helping a lot of persecuted Christians. So Shari, thank you. You’re very, very busy, but thank you for making time to be with us again on the program today.

Shaheryar Gill:   Thank you for having me.

Isaac Crockett:   Well, Shari, there’s so many things we’d love to get into with you today. I don’t know how much we can get accomplished. We want to look at some of what you’re doing at the United Nations and even in the Hague that’s over in the Netherlands, the International Criminal court, and some different cases especially. We’ve heard a lot about Benjamin Netanyahu and you’re involved with that. But first, you’ve been on a couple of times talking about some of the persecuted Christians that you represent and could you give us an update? I know when you were first on, you talked about a young man who was falsely accused of blasphemy, sentenced to death. He’s on death row, and then the last time you were on, you told us about a factory owner who ended up being killed by a mob falsely accused. Could you maybe update us on those situations if there’s anything new ongoing there?

Shaheryar Gill:   Yes, absolutely Isaac. We filed a petition for ACY in the high court in Lahore, in Pakistan, Lahore, and we asked the court to basically hear our appeal because he was sentenced to death in November, 2022. It has been about two years now since we filed the appeal at the high court. So we petitioned the court to expedite the hearing. We have filed a complaint at the UN United Nations, which they have a group at the United Nations that deals with arbitrary detention applications. So we filed an application with them and the group basically decided in our favor and they held that that Zai was in fact held arbitrarily and he did not commit a crime. He was simply exercising his right to speak. So that order has been issued and I’m sure that the authorities in Pakistan have been informed of that. So after that decision was issued, there was one hearing that was announced by the high court to hear the appeal.

Shaheryar Gill:   We were at the appeal at the court, but a lot of times what happens in Pakistan is that there are several cases on the docket and the court couldn’t get toad’s case that day. Now since then, the case is again pending. We’re trying to basically ask the court to hear the appeal. So that’s what’s going on with Shazad. The other interesting thing, or I should say very sad result that has happened in the Nazi MACIs case, the gentleman over 70-year-old man who was killed by a mob over an allegation of blasphemy, the police arrested over 70 people in that case for attacking his home, killing him, and destroying his shoe factory. But the judge of the anti-terrorism court has granted bail now to every single one of them despite all the evidence available. We were recently retained by the family to prosecute these criminals. We went to the court to basically contest their bail.

Shaheryar Gill:   There were three groups of people who had filed different petitions and all three bails petitions were actually granted at the court. We could clearly see that the judge was biased. The questions he asked were not even relevant, they were not according to the law. He wanted to know out of the 200 300 people, mob who, which defendant inflicted which injury, which is not really even required by the law, and even despite the fact that we had or the prosecution of police has video recordings of these people eyewitnesses accounts of them being involved in the commission of the crime, but still the judge disregarded all that evidence and granted them bail. I am just finished today preparing an appeal. We are filing the appeal in all three orders tomorrow, which would be tonight in the us. So we should be hearing something about a court scheduling argument on that appeal and hopefully, hopefully, and I would ask the listeners to pray for it, to give the judge wisdom and basically pray for integrity for the judge to decide the case on the merits.

Sam Rohrer:       Then, Shaheryar, not too much time left in this segment, but I think just because it was so interesting and there may be people listening now, did not listen to this program when we talked about this early on, and that’s this question. You’re operating in a Islamic dominated country. You are appealing the harm done to a right now we’re saying a Christian, on what basis are you able to actually appeal in a court there where it’s logical to hope, even pray for that a judge would respond according to what we would say would be biblically defined to justice?

Shaheryar Gill:   Sam, that’s a great question. The thing is that in the higher courts in Pakistan, there is a sentiment that the higher courts do look at the cases on the basis of the merits. So the trial courts are usually intimidated by the mobs, and every now and then you find a judge who is biased. But generally speaking, we have not come across a lot of biased judges in cases of this kind. Now blasphemy cases are where a person is actually accused of blasphemy and he faces trial. Again, trial courts are very open to convicting those people, but the higher courts, when you get to them, it’s there is an expectation of justice. And because the case, the law in Pakistan is very similar to the US law is based on common law. We are able to understand and argue on the basis of the law. The law is law exists on the books. It allows us to appeal. The law says if the judge had decided the case against the weight of evidence, we have the right to appeal. So because he decided case against the weight of evidence, we have argued basically these points that presenting all that evidence, the judge hopefully will see that the judge, the previous judge had decided the case unjustly.

Isaac Crockett:   Well, Shaheryar, we are praying for you and your team. There’s so many moving pieces going on and we want to talk about that a little bit more when we come back, how you’re working even in Geneva, Switzerland and the Hagen Netherlands and you in New York City. This is a whole international thing going on here, trying to stand up for what is right and what is just, and it goes beyond just the persecuted Christians goes to other things as well. We’re going to talk about more of this right here on Stand in the Gap today. Well welcome back to our program. I’m Isaac Crockett and Sam Rohr and I are talking with our friend attorney Shaheryar Gill, a human rights attorney at the ACLJ and Shaheryar, one of your coworkers, the founder of the ACLJ Jay Sekulow, was just talking in a recent email that he sent out.

Isaac Crockett:   He said, Israel is on fire. He goes on in that email to say that the UN and even some groups in America are using what he calls Lawfare against Netanyahu and against Israel. He says, the UN has declared legal war on Israel and just shockingly blamed Israel for everything. It essentially proclaimed that Hamas brutal abduction, rape and slaughter of innocent civilians was justified and reasonable that Israel had it coming it’s evil. He goes on and talks about some of the things Biden has done. He says, it’s outrageous and your A CLJ is aggressively fighting back. We just sent a critical demand letter to respond to the UN’s law fair against Israel, and right now we’re filing a major federal lawsuit against Biden. He’s talking about prosecution of Netanyahu, but in another email that was sent by Jay’s son, Jordan Sekulow, another one of your friends and coworkers, they talk about the young man that you were just talking about, Shazad, and they talk about how the justice system in Pakistan taking so much time to get into these things. And so he says, our legal team on the ground in Pakistan has appealed. And he says, now we’ve just filed a critical written submission to the UN on his behalf. So I want to talk to you about some of these situations. Could you start with maybe just talking about what you are doing in the in cases of Christian persecution like that of Shazad, what recourse you have maybe via the UN to try to get some help in finding justice sooner rather than later over there?

Shaheryar Gill:   Right. So Isaac, what happens is, apart from dealing with these cases, for example in Pakistan, in the Pakistani courts, the UN has a mechanism where we can file petitions or complaints about these cases on behalf of our clients to have the UN really communicate with the governments to provide justice. And regarding ize, that’s not the only thing that we do at the UN. We file at least 40 reports every year with the United Nations on different countries under different mechanisms, detailing human rights conditions in those countries and really making recommendations to the UN that could be communicated to each country’s government. So right now, actually we are submitting about 14 reports this week that will be presented to the UN on regarding different countries situation of human rights. And one of the reports happens to be Iran where as you know, the Iranian government, how they limit the exercise of religious freedom of Christians, especially Christian convers.

Shaheryar Gill:   So that’s one aspect of our work at the United Nations to engage with different bodies regarding human rights situation in different countries. You also mentioned about the Israeli war and what’s going on at the un. There’s a commission of inquiry at the UN that deals with issues related to Israel and occupied the so-called occupied Palestinian Territories. So this commission, I’ve met the commissioners at the UN and they are simply biased people who blame Israel for every single thing and their most recent report, the commission has basically said that what happened on October 7th not should be looked at in light of what Israel has done in the occupied territories about Israeli occupation, about the rights they have violated. So basically what they’re saying is that Hamas has justified Hamas, whatever they did was as a result of what Israel was doing. That’s just very, that’s beyond ridiculous.

Shaheryar Gill:   It’s an antisemitic statement. And we filed the A CLJ filed a response that to the commission of inquiry at the United Nations. So that’s part of one aspect of our work. The other aspect is what’s going on at the International Criminal Court, and as you might remember in May of this year, the prosecutor of the ICC asked the pretrial chamber of the ICC to issue arrest warrants against Prime Minister Netanyahu and their defense minister Galland among three Hamas leaders, and he has accused all of them of committing war crimes. And we have previously argued that the ICC does not have jurisdiction over Israel or its nationals because Israel is not a party to the treaty that created the ICC. The treaty is called the Rome statute, and there’s a fundamental principle of international law that parties states that are not parties to a treaty are not bound by the treaty.

Shaheryar Gill:   So it’s kind of like general normal contracts. If you and I have a contract, it’s only applicable between the two of us. It cannot be applied to Sam. So same kind of logic here that Israel, United States, Pakistan, India, Russia, they’re not parties to the Rome statute and therefore the ICC does not have jurisdiction. But in this situation, the court back in 2021, the prosecutor of the ICC asked the court to consider Palestine a state for the strict purposes of the Rome statute only. And that’s sort of a fictitious kind of argument where you’re saying, yeah, yeah, we understand it’s not a state, but let’s consider it a state for these purposes. The court agreed with the prosecutor and the court said, yes, we have territorial jurisdiction. Now, one of the things that the court did not look at was the Oslo Accords agreements between Israeli and Palestinian leaders that were concluded in 1993 and 95.

Shaheryar Gill:   So under the Oslo Accords, Israel did not grant jurisdiction over Israeli nationals to Palestinian authority. And that’s the issue before the court. Right now, the United Kingdom’s government recently filed an application before the court asking the court that question needs to be answered now because the court had basically said that in the past order that when the prosecutor applies for arrest warrants, that’s when we will look at this jurisdictional question. So the court has now opened the door for organizations like the ECLJ to file written submissions about that question. So we filed an application similar to the one that UK filed with the ICC, asking the court to allow us to basically submit an amicus brief answering that question. And again, basically a prior agreement which is Oslo accord between the leaders of Israel and Palestinians, that trumps the issue of jurisdiction. The Palestinians cannot delegate jurisdiction to the ICC because they do not have the jurisdiction in the first place. And that’s the court question. Now the court has to deal with, in order to really even say that, okay, now we actually do have jurisdiction over Israeli nationals,

Sam Rohrer:       Shaheryar, that’s excellent and that’s a greater review. There’s not much time left. But I do want to ask this question. A lot of people are listening and we understand the world understands that the ICC International Criminal Court have issued this condemnation of Netanyahu and Gallant in particular. Alright, now here’s the question. Do they have the ability as a method of enforcement, I mean do these individuals, Netanyahu and Gallant, are they actually in fear of somebody arresting them if they go to someplace in the world? Or is this whole thing right now paper threat?

Shaheryar Gill:   Sam? I think that’s a great question that many people are asking. Now, the ICC does not have any enforcement mechanism. So there’s no international police that the ICC has to go apprehend a person who is accused of committing any crime. So what happens is in the ICC’s case, state parties have an obligation to arrest somebody and hand him over to the ICC. So for example, if tya who were to travel to a country that is a party to the Rome statute, that country has the authority, or at least that country can make a choice to do so. And I would assume that Netanyahu is not going to be traveling to any of those countries in the near future. That’s one thing. The other countries, again, the prosecutors simply recommends or suggests requests other countries who are not party to the Rome statute to basically cooperate.

Shaheryar Gill:   So it’s based, it’s really dependent on individual countries to enforce, but they don’t have to parties that are the states that are party to the statute, there’s an oblig legal obligation, but still that’s a process that the Rome statute itself deals with. But in practical terms, I don’t see how those arrests could be made. And there’s a real threat to, of course there’s a threat. Of course, any state can act on its own because they’re sovereign states and they can abide by the ICCS ruling, but they don’t have to. And again, these individuals don’t have to travel to those countries and Israel is obviously not handing them over to the ICC.

Isaac Crockett:   Wow. It’s just so many tangled pieces there and I’m so thankful for what you’re trying to do in unraveling those. Thank you so much, Shaheryar, for being on with us. Again, we just have final seconds here, but point us to your website where people can follow this and get more information.

Shaheryar Gill:   Right, so it’s aclj.org. We have blogs on almost about everything that we have discussed. We update them irregularly and provide updated information on all of our cases. People can go to aclj.org to find more information

Isaac Crockett:   On there. You’ll find Shaheryar has written a lot of good articles. Our friend Ben Ney has written articles on things going on here in America. Jordan and Jay Selo write a lot of things. So lots of good information there@aclj.org. Shaheryar, thank you so much for the great work you’re doing. We’re praying for you and thanks for being on with us today. When we come back, I want to ask Sam some questions about recent international elections. We’ll be right back on Stand in the Gap today. Welcome back to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and I’m joined by the Honorable Sam Rohr, the regular host of this program, the President of the American Pastors Network. And our program today, we’ve called it in the Balance and we’re looking internationally at global elections and human rights. And we just got done talking with human rights lawyer for the ACLJ Shaheryar Gill.

Isaac Crockett:   And not only did he give us some amazing updates on things that are going on in persecuted countries with several families that we’ve been hearing about from him and praying for, we also found out that almost every week on an average of almost every week, he and his group are filing petitions with the UN all over the world in Iran and other countries where they’re persecuting Christians. But then Sam, maybe you could kind of give a quick recap of what is going on with Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel and what Shaheryar was saying they are doing in defense of truth and righteousness in this situation with the international courts, international criminal courts.

Sam Rohrer:       Well, Isaac, I think, I mean it was great. It was really good. That’s the first time that I’ve heard someone who’s actually in that space, that legal space, A CLJ being probably the only one that I’m aware of that are, and it’s partially because of Shari’s knowledge, for instance, of Pakistan from where he’s from, where he’s operating as we were talking on just last segment. And in the previous program, the difference of understanding, for instance, the operative law, Sharia law, Islamic law on the lower level as he talked about in Pakistan, but then being aware that on the higher court level there, because they were once a UK dominated country, there is a structure of what we’d call common law under which it looks more like Western laws defined by justice as we would understand it and our listeners would understand it today and appealing to that.

Sam Rohrer:       Now, if he were in for instance, say Iran, probably Turkey too, I assume there would be no basis for him to make the kind of appeal he is doing on behalf of persecuted Christians because there is not any entity within those countries which are 100% dominated by Sharia as an example to appeal to now what he described as going before the United Nations, he described one entity as a subcommittee of the United Nations and then he talked about the International criminal court ICC, and that was the interaction of that group that stepped up in trying to indict Netanyahu and some of his team.

Sam Rohrer:       But as he said there in the case of the United Nations perspective, those entities, those people, the ICC and particularly that other subgroup of the un, they’re people who don’t really have any authority. They’re kind of taken that, and so they’re issuing this indictment against Netanyahu. And that’s why I ask him the question. Alright, well that’s one thing to say you’re guilty and you ought to be thrown in jail. And it’s another thing to say, well then who are your policemen? Do you have anybody who can actually go out and arrest? And that was that question. So it’s a very interesting thing, Isaac, that the whole concept of law and justice, if it is not defined biblically, it will be defined some other way. You go to China under communism, their definition of justice is whatever the timer at the top says under Sharia, it’s what under the Quran says and whatever they want to do under Western law, generally the United States, it’s been basically under the 10 Commandments what God said. And so that’s why there are gigantic distinctions between the definition of justice, the approach to protecting somebody’s rights because that’s not all interpreted to the same way. So in any regard, giving you a long answer, but it really is important and I hope that our listeners are somewhat better informed and understanding and praying for folks like Shaheryar and others at ACLJ who understand these distinctives and are willing and able to creatively go and help to defend those who are truly innocent.

Isaac Crockett:   And I’m so thankful that the Holy Spirit is working in Christians to do this, to be salt and light and in these legal minds and internationally that are doing that. But it was interesting because you asked, you said that the IC is more or less a kangaroo court, but you asked can they enforce it? And the thing is, depending on what country, if Netanyahu would go to another country, that country could use this kind of fake court as an excuse to arrest him it sounds like. And that brings us up to these recent elections we’ve been watching. We’ve been talking about this this year. 2024 is the year of elections. Sam, if we look at it, I think we could honestly say that over half of the world’s nations or population is having an election, a big national election or will or had one at the end of 2023 that went into effect in 2024. And it’s so important. Elections have consequences and it’s so important to see the right officials that stand for biblical justice. Anyways, Sam, could you talk to us, there’s been just a whole wave of elections going on in Europe. A lot of people thought it was going to go more conservative, more kind of right wing. Could you talk to us about what has happened there and then can we apply some of that and how it might impact America?

Sam Rohrer:       Yeah, absolutely. Let me go first to Iran, just very quick. That was a country when we talked last, that was a country where that president had gone down a helicopter crash. If people remember that was not a scheduled election. They had to make a new election. Who got elected? Brown was just a guy. The Ayatollah taps, he was elected unquote. But all of those seemed to be there in the Middle East that know what’s going on the ground saying there’s no way under that setting that that’s who those people elected because it’s just not the way it’s going to go because the power to determine is at the top with the ayatollah. It’s not with the people. Even though they go through a mock election similar now. So you’ve got a bad guy there, you’ve got a bad guy, this new president of Iran, very bad.

Sam Rohrer:       He’s going to be very bad against Israel and everything surrounding that. Alright, now let’s move to Europe. When we talked about last time there were two elections, major elections in Europe, one was in France and one was in the UK. It was only about a week ago. The UK election was on July 4th, our July 4th, and the other was on this last Sunday, July 7th in France. In both cases, Isaac and the press, the media, the American press and others from all different perspectives were all saying, wow, the world is turning, the globalists are out, the bad boys are out, the people are rising. And it looked like lap pen, very conservative there in France was going to win. And actually and their equivalent to our primary, she did win by a significant amount. So people were beginning to say, ah, we finally won. Europe is swinging back to what used to be freedom and going to throw off the shackles of the European Union and all that kind of thing.

Sam Rohrer:       Well now we said on this side of it, the UK election was totally unexpected. It would totally different Labor Party now headed by new prime minister there here Starmer. He is a pure globalist 412 seats, the conservative party, the next one, a hundred twenty one over Double Pier Starmer was asked a question if he could define the difference between male and female effectively. And he said, you really can’t define a woman because the way they’re born, not necessarily who they are. That’s where the guy’s coming from. He is a completely totally woke guy. When he was around earlier in the parliament under Covid, he was pushing hard that the UK lock up every individual in the UK who did not want to take the shot, the Covid shot as an example. He was also asked a question there that if there was a decision that would come before him where it was the UK Parliament took one position and the World Economic Forum, the Davos group were to take another position, where would he go?

Sam Rohrer:       And he said, well, the group, the Davos, they know more. I would go that way. So he is completely identified with the globalist 100%. And it’s totally different than what everybody thought in France the same way, thought Lappen was going to win. In fact, not only did not win, she came in bottom of the stack. So now in France what you have is you have a collection of Left Green Alliance made up of communists, Antifa, radical Islamists. They are in control and they have joined in with Macron who was a student of the World Economic Forum people. He is one of their individuals and they are now in control. So France is not turning around. But I’m going to say in both cases it appears there were problems that occurred in France as an example. All of the countryside, all of France except for Paris, voted heavily for Lapin.

Sam Rohrer:       Paris did not. Now there’s question as to how was it fraud, what was involved? But one thing for sure is the controlled media, the globalists, the deep state folks that are the problem here as they are over there prevailed even though it appeared that it was going to be completely one-sided based on what the average person said. And Isaac, and I’m just going to roll that over and say what are the implications here in America? Well, people should not count their chickens before they’re hatched. And what appears to be is not necessarily how it will end up being because at this point the evil are in control all just like they are at the United Nations and the international CC Court and these things that we just saw here. So I took a long time, but it was a big deal. What just

Isaac Crockett:   Happened? It’s a very big deal. Thank you for that explanation and we want to be praying about that. We have another break to hear from our partners and we’re going to come back and finish this up, wrap this up. But we are on the edge, so to speak, in the balance lies human rights, freedoms, liberty, and in the So-called international elections, a lot to talk about. We’ll be right back. Welcome back to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett, my co-host, the Honorable Sam Rohrer is the regular host of this program. And today we’ve been talking about in the balance global elections and human rights. And we heard from a human rights lawyer, a good friend of ours from the ACL J, and he works with the ECLJ, the European Center for Law and Justice. And that was attorney Shaheryar Gill. And he walked us through some very interesting things in which he exposed a lot of corruption and anti-Christian sentiment, not just in Muslim nations, but even at the un.

Isaac Crockett:   And then he walked us through some of the corruption going on at the International Criminal Court and other parts of the UN and what they’re doing at the ECLJ and the A CLJ to try to take a stand as salt and light as long as we have that ability, as long as we have that option. But Sam, as we heard from him, and as we heard even from you, we see more and more this one world government showing up stronger and stronger with their corruption. And so I would love for you to talk to maybe well all of us as Christians, those with a biblical worldview, but maybe especially pastors and church leaders. Why Sam? It’s so important that we look at these events. Number one, that we know the truth about it, like what we heard straight from Shaheryar  today. I learned things that I didn’t know, but we need to know the truth. But how we look at that through the lens of a biblical worldview, could you just talk to especially the church leaders, but really all of us as Christians, why it really matters that we look at these events with that biblical worldview.

Sam Rohrer:       Isaac, I can, and there’s so much that we could say, we talk about it regularly, but I’m going to go right to biblical worldview right here. And that is this, the reality is there are things happening in this world all over. The reality is lawlessness. Lawlessness is on the increase. The reality is the persecution of Christians is on the increase around the world. The reality is Israel and the Jewish people and the rise of antisemitism is ever before us. The reality is, even in our own nation here, for the longest time, perhaps the most Christian nation in the world are sitting here today, having said killing babies is fine marriage. No, not man and woman, no, it can be whatever male and female as God said. No, no, it’s whatever you want it to be. Alright, so now we sit here. The reality is that truth is no longer underpinning our system of justice in this nation.

Sam Rohrer:       And it hasn’t for a long time, which is why innocent people can today sit in jail. And those who are truly guilty, of which there are many, and I don’t need to go down through the litany, that’s well known do, are not prosecuted. Why is that? Well, because truth, first of all, God has been jettisoned and therefore truth can be up to the person, the judge, the legislator, the president, and then you get all these things that will happen now, alright? That is the reality of where we are. Well, how does one look at that? Well, you look at that from the, we call a leftist perspective. They’d say, well, it’s the appropriate thing because when you are in power and you have the authority, if you’re strong enough to determine and whatever, you have the right to make up what’s right. Okay? Those who understand biblical worldview would say, well wait a minute.

Sam Rohrer:       No, it’s not up to us. You go back and you say, what does God say? How does he define truth? How does he define marriage? How does he define life? How does he define good and bad? Alright, my point being is this, there are things that are happening that everybody can see. There are two ways of looking at it. The one like I just described, a biblical worldview says, what does the Bible say about all these things? And then what does the Bible say we should do in regard to all these things? Well, the Bible tells us that in these days, since Israel’s back in the land that we’re in the latter years, that’s the marker. Alright, so now we there. What does the Bible say? Well, in these days there would be a turning away from the God of heaven. False prophets would increase heresy.

Sam Rohrer:       Among those in the church would be on the increase, there would be a move towards, has to be a global government because the antichrist will come up out of a global government. So these things will be happening. So we look at these things that are happening with a digital currency so that there can be tracking. We look at these things in the rise of the United Nation, the World Health Organization, to basically tell everybody, this is what we’re going to do. And if the gut nations of the world don’t give them the authority, they take it. That’s what we’ve been talking about with the World Health Organization, the United Nations coming back in September. And what they’re doing, the ICC we talked about with Shaheryar, and we see this collective effort to oppose that which is of God, God’s people, Jesus Christ and the nation of Israel, the chosen of God, which is what Psalm chapter two verse three talks about.

Sam Rohrer:       So I think Isaac, when we understand it from God’s perspective, it allows those who know the truth, who fear God or are committed to keeping his commandments to not be caught up in the confusion and the deception that the world is falling into. We know that because the Bible says that. But instead to see these things, to connect the dots when they occur and to become more fortified in our courage, in our commitment to pursuing the truth, speaking out the truth of God’s word, being more concerned than ever about the souls of men that are hanging in the balance and doing like we’re doing right now. Putting out truth on things that are there and real and praying that the Holy Spirit of God takes the truth and helps those who are listening to know how to respond. So I rambled a little bit, but there was such a big question, Isaac, but we have a choice. Biblical worldview. Look out the way God says or reject God and then listen to the globalists and the controlled media who are all wanting to take us, not towards God, but totally away from him.

Isaac Crockett:   Well, Sam, I don’t think that was rambling at all. That’s very helpful and it’s such a helpful reminder. We don’t get scared and give up. We turn to Christ when we see this happening, we look up, we get ready for him. We look at our own lives, we look inward at ourselves and say, what am I doing to be a part of this kingdom of God? Because that’s what it’s all about. It’s about God’s kingdom. Luke 19, Jesus gives a parable and he tells us to occupy until he comes. And so I love what Shaheryar is doing in filing these different things and doing what he still can do to use his talents and his background and his abilities and his experiences to be salt and light. And every one of us, we have opportunities as long as we have breath, the Lord gives us opportunities to praise him and to show his work to others. And Sam, I love that we got to be looking at it from that biblical viewpoint and seeing that God is at work and seeing his providence and his fulfilling of prophecy and all these things. Well, we’re almost to the end of the program, Sam. I would love to have you maybe mention how we can be praying. We do have elections coming up in our nation. We do have elected officials, how we could be praying about that and for those officials. And then I think there’s time, hopefully you could also close us in prayer.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, I’ll try to do this very quickly. How should we pray? Ladies and gentlemen, if you’re listening, how should we pray? Well, there are things that for which we are commanded to pray always, regardless of what we live in around the world, pray for those in positions of authority that we can live a quiet and peaceable life. That’s what we do. That those who have the ability to make law and or in face and enforce law or policy, understand that they’re going to give an account to God one day and that they make their decisions based on that. Now, in reality, in these days in which we live, there are very few, hardly any who have the fear of God. But we need to pray for that. Nonetheless, we need to pray that those who know the truth, if you’re listening to me right now, you probably know the truth, that we would be more committed than ever to fearing God and keeping His commandments. In other words, doing God’s will, God’s way according to the commandments of God, so that God himself can bless our actions. That’s what it is. And Isaac, I’m sorry we’re running out of time, but ladies and gentlemen, I think you know where we’re talking here. Make it this choice to do it God’s way.

Isaac Crockett:   Thank you Sam. And on behalf of everybody here at our team, our producer Tim Schneider, my co-host, Sam Rohr, our guest today, Shariar Gill and all the other behind the scenes people, I’m Isaac Crockett, thanking you for listening and asking you to pray for us here and to take an opportunity to stand in the gap for truth wherever you are today.