Follow Your Heart? Maybe, Maybe Not!
Nov. 11, 2024
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Dr. Renton Rathbun
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 11/11/24. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.
Sam Rohrer: Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s another full week here of programming. Today’s also Veterans Day. If you did not know, and if you’re expecting delivery from the mail service, you won’t get it today. That’s a national holiday, but it’s today appropriately set aside to honor our veterans and we honor our veterans who have given much that we can be free. I trust that if you have the opportunity, thank a veteran or someone serving today for their dedication, and remember to pray for all of those who wear a uniform or have ever done so we have a lot to be thankful for their sacrifice. I also trust you had a restful and restorative weekend and ready to successfully face another week. A lot of how the week and the days ahead turn out is how we think in our head, right and in our heart.
Sam Rohrer: Which brings me to the point of the emphasis of the program today. Ever hear the phrase follow your heart? I’m sure you have, if you’ve ever watched any Hallmark movies as an example, there’s a common theme that runs through the often generally predictable program theme as it relates to finding romance and love. And that is follow your heart. Just follow your heart. But you ever thought much about that advice? For instance, is it good advice or is it bad advice? Can it sometimes be reliable? Is it never reliable or is it reliable? Depending? What’s it actually mean to follow one’s heart anyway? Just exactly what is a person’s heart? How do you define that? What is a person’s heart and how does one then follow it is one’s heart the final authority and what is right and is one’s heart even worth following?
Sam Rohrer: Well, today on Standing the Gap today, I’ve asked Dr. Renton Rathbun, director of the Center for Biblical Worldview at Bob Jones University and regular speaker for and consultant to BJU Press, the largest producer of K to 12 biblical worldview, integrated textbooks, frankly, in the world. They’re the largest. Ask him to join me again for a consideration of this familiar recommendation. Follow your heart as we attempt to consider this phrase and how God fearing people should consider this familiar recommendation. So the tide I’ve chosen to frame our conversation today is this, follow your heart, maybe, maybe not, but before I bring in Dr. Rathbun, I’d like to give it just a quick preview of the week in advance. Tomorrow, Dr. Jamie Mitchell will be leading with special guests Jayna Hartman with the theme, understand the heart of an Atheist. Interesting. We’re going to go to the heart on that program too. On Wednesday, Twila Brase will join me for the latest on health freedom issues and certainly after the election of this last week, we’ll have some very interesting information to share on Thursday.
Sam Rohrer: Patricia Engler with answers in Genesis will join me. And then on Friday I’ll join Dr. Isaac Crockett for part of the program being Ask Sam Week in review. But we’ll also feature if plans work out a spokesperson from Getty Music to update us on their end of year Christmas related concerts and other things. Please don’t miss a single program this week as together they’ll provide a great overview, I think, of the most important events of the week and all from a biblical worldview perspective. Now that being said, let me bring in right now, Dr. Renton Rathbun, Renton. Thanks for being back with me.
Renton Rathbun: Well, thanks for having me as a veteran myself. I appreciate you reminding us of what we’re celebrating today
Sam Rohrer: And as I said, encourage our people. Thank those veterans around you. Thank you, Renton. I didn’t know that, but thank you for your service and Tim Snyder, I’m looking at him. I haven’t told him yet, but I’m looking through the window. Tim, thank you as well, brother. Anyway, alright, go on here Renton. Before we delve into the many considerations of a person’s heart, let’s define what is meant by a person’s heart. For instance, what distinguishes a person’s heart say from their mind or perhaps their conscience? I’ve often differentiated these three entities in briefest terms, not saying this is the way, but this is how I’ve thought. I’ve said the heart is the seat of the emotions. The mind is the center of the will or the intellect and the conscience is like the moral regulator of both. I don’t know whether you would agree with that or not, but how would you define and illustrate the heart as well as the mind and the conscience or any other part you believe we must include within our conversation today about a person’s heart?
Renton Rathbun: Well, a good way to think about this in our context of the 21st century American is to ask this question, am I my brain or am I a person who uses my brain? That’s usually how I start this conversation with my students when I teach on this to give them an understanding of the way we think about it as Americans who tend to believe we are literally our brain. So I think what’s most difficult for us to grasp today is that we, particularly with the Old Testament, is we tend to take our Greek philosophy minds to try and understand Old Testament verbiage. And what I mean by that is the Greeks have taught us to analyze things and that’s a good thing. Analyzing is wonderful and analyzing. We take things apart in their perspective pieces and try to understand the whole from those parts. The mistake we often make is that we begin to take those pieces that we took apart from the whole and actually see them as independent ideas that stand independently of each other.
Renton Rathbun: Now, all of this is important because we long to do this dissection When it comes to the heart, we want to segment it into pieces and sometimes when the Old Testament is speaking of the heart, sometimes it’s talking, it refers to the mind, sometimes it refers to the emotions. Sometimes in talking about the heart, it refers to the will, and we’ve made these distinctions, mind will affections, which are fine, but when we actually begin to think about this, the heart, we got to think about what Proverbs is saying in Proverbs 4 23, watch over your heart with all diligence from it flows the springs of life. What we find is the heart is the one who is doing the thinking, willing and feeling. In other words, the heart is the person behind these activities. It’s the difference between what something does and what something is. So when we talk about the heart, we’re talking about an is here, this is the person. Now when we do things, we will, that’s a doing. When we do things, we feel, when we do things, we think, but the person behind those activities is the heart. So ultimately the heart is the ultimate you, the unsegmented you. And in understanding how we and all those things put together makes the you who you are and that’s what the heart is, particularly in the Old Testament and I think it’s continued in the new.
Sam Rohrer: Alright, that’s excellent Renton. And that brings us right up to the break, ladies and gentlemen. When we come back I’m going to ask Renton to define from his perspective after I give you just a few quick definitions of what it means from the world’s perspective of following your heart. Now you heard what he just said. This will tie this together and then we’re going to walk into describing in further detail from the world’s perspective what that heart is and then what the Bible says about that much broader understanding of the heart, that person within you. Well, if you’re just joining me here today, our theme is this, follow your heart, maybe, maybe not, and you’ve all heard that phrase. My special guest today is Dr. Renton Rathbun with me generally every month. He is the director of the Center for Biblical Worldview at Bob Jones University and a regular speaker and a consultant to BJU Press and is ideal for this in Renton.
Sam Rohrer: You’ve already laid out a bit of a definition in the last segment, but let me proceed into this concept of not what it means to follow your heart when it comes to the phrase, ladies and gentlemen, follow your heart. It’s clear that it means many things to many people. However, there are certain common definitional words that reoccur. I’m going to share just a minute, a couple of definitions that I just quickly found. Words such as feelings or intuition or emotions. One senses a sense of magnetism, passion, happiness, and fulfillment. However, before I go to what the Bible says, let me just share just briefly a couple of these definitions so you get the idea that that’s not making that up. From the National Institute of Health government website, it says Follow your heart means to let emotions dictate one’s life choices. That’s interesting. Here’s wake up cloud.com.
Sam Rohrer: I’m not vouching for these sources, just that when you Google or you look, these are things that come up. It’s out there. That’s what the world thinks. Wake up cloud.com says to follow that which feels magnetic. Gabriel sves.com says, follow your heart really is about finding happiness and fulfillment by pursuing the things you love and feel passionate about. The Merriam Webster dictionary of today says to do what one would really love to do from a publication called Illumination. It says, listening to your intuition. So now that being the case, however, when a person goes to the Bible and searches for a description of the heart, you’ll find it means more of this, the inner man mind will understanding and it takes on a much deeper, more complex in some ways purpose and function in rent. And that’s what you were just talking about in the last segment.
Sam Rohrer: Now, one writer that I found talking about this idea of the heart said this was a woman who said this. She said, listening to your heart will ensure that you are always on the right path, even if it doesn’t feel like it. She goes on to say, from my personal experience, each time I listened to my heart, it never led me astray and Renton. While I thought that was the most interesting claim from my experience, just listening to my heart without, and this is key without any other input or consideration would have been dangerous indeed. So first, your comments on this woman’s statement and then what does the Bible tell us about the normal condition of the human heart?
Renton Rathbun: What you have described is a perfect example of how our society has come to believe what the heart is. And what they did is they segmented the heart into merely its feelings and then said, that’s all. And so this really stems from a philosopher named Frederick Nietzsche. Probably many of your listeners know of him as the one that said that God is dead. He is the famous atheist philosopher who believed there was no real truth that we could know except what our bodily desires tell us is true that anything outside the body is uncertain, but in the body we can know the truth. And that is why we must, if we’re going to be rational, we must obey what our body tells us and what our body desires. And so obedience to the body is the most rational thing according to Nietzsche that we can do.
Renton Rathbun: Now, as Christians, we would call these things the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. But Nietzsche would call this the body’s truth that must be obeyed. And when our body has these cravings and these affections, what we would call sin, Nietzsche would say, this is our body telling us the truth and following our body’s desires is rational. And when we say no because of something outside the body like the Lord’s commandments, he would say, you are trying to make slaves out of us because following your body makes you actually authentic. And if you’re not going to be your authentic self, you’re going to be something outside of your authentic self because your desires actually according to Nietzsche, define who you are today we would call that your identity. And so when I hear what this woman is saying in her quote, what I hear is the echoes of Nietzsche telling us, obey your desires.
Renton Rathbun: Be happy in the slavery of your sin because that is what will never unquote let you down, which is one of Satan’s greatest lies to the American. Today what we find our heart, actually its condition is today after the fall, all you have to do is read the book of Romans and you will have a great understanding. And so in Romans one 18, it tells us where our heart actually begins. What we find is that God’s wrath is against us. And why is God filled with wrath against us? Well, because we start our thinking already suppressing the truth In unrighteousness, we don’t suppress the truth with ignorance, we don’t suppress it with just not knowing enough. We suppress it with our sin, our hate for God. So since the fall, we inherited Adam’s nature. This means the disposition of his heart is the disposition of our heart and at our core as a person, not just our will, not just our thoughts, not just my emotions, but at the core of who I am, I am a God hater and it would take an act of God for me to have that heart broken and made new, which is what our heart needs.
Sam Rohrer: All right, and that reminds me of Jeremiah 17, nine. The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Ladies and gentlemen, scripture says, who can know it? Brent talks about just exactly what you’re talking about. Now, let me go ahead and broaden this a bit in the scripture, the King James version, 765 times the word heart is used, but it is very broad. As you were starting at the beginning, let me just mention a couple of those. For instance, a lot of adjectives, the heart is in many different shapes, an understanding heart, one kings three, nine, a merry heart, Esther one 10, a faithful heart. Nehemiah nine, eight, A glad heart. Esther five nine, A presumptive heart referring to Haman there in Esther seven, five, A proud heart. I’ll let off the verses just for the sake of time, a prepared heart, a deceived heart, a whole heart, a sorrowful heart, a rejoicing heart, and just many, many more. Now here’s my question. In your words, what do these and so many other adjectives used to describe a person’s heart? Tell you about the heart? How can we understand the heart and how God desires that we come to understand the comprehensive nature of our inner man described as the heart deceitful from the beginning but able to end up being a rejoicing heart or a prepared heart or a whole heart?
Renton Rathbun: What it tells us is that God is not interested in our segmented loyalty. In other words, he does not want us to merely will our obedience to him yet have no affections towards our God, nor does he want us to merely have affections towards him, yet we will not obey him. When God talks about the whole heart and our commitment to him, he’s talking about us in our willing and our affections and our mind and all those things are toward the Lord because we in our person is toward the Lord if I can put it that way. And what we find here is that there is no victimhood allowed with this kind of view of the heart. In other words, it’s not our mind that is the ultimate problem and therefore we just need more clarity so that we will follow God. It’s not our affections that are the ultimate problem and we just need to raise our hands higher when we worship or we are not victims of something that is affecting us.
Renton Rathbun: We are the problem. The sin is not something that stains us, but it comes right from us, from the heart, the mouth speaks. And what we find is that if we are held responsible down to the heart, as the Bible says, our responsibility comes not from just a confusing way of thinking or we have bad thoughts, and if we just didn’t have these bad thoughts, it comes from us as the person and as a person, I have rebelled against the Lord and I have sinned against the Lord. It cannot be regulated to one part of my will or one part of my mind or one part of my affections, but it is me and therefore the fruit of me, my affections, the fruit of me, my thoughts, the fruit of me, my will becomes distorted because I am the problem. And that’s why Romans one 20 tells us that there is no one that has an excuse. We are all without excuse and there is no one in hell today that can point at anything but themselves as to why they are there.
Sam Rohrer: Well ladies and gentlemen, I hope that you’re listening and benefiting from this, that what Dr. Renton Rathman just shared and what we’re talking about is a biblical worldview of this concept of the heart and follow your heart, which is dominating what most people think, but it really at its core stands extraordinarily contrary to what the Bible says. Now we’re going to come back, we’re going to talk about how did God design the heart to be? What is his desire for our heart? And then we’ll end up with how that can happen. Well, knowing the capacity of the human heart in its broadest sense to experience the full range of emotions, I’m going to say the fullest range of emotions which we know we can. Each of us, we know that it seems to make sense that whatever or whoever can control or influence the desires of our heart, of a person’s heart, then would have the ability teams to control the choices and the decisions of that person be that good or evil.
Sam Rohrer: And we know Dr. Renton Rathman mentioned it in the last segment but think about this. We know that there exists these influences that affect us all. One is called the world, the other is the flesh and the other is the devil. And all of those, the world, the flesh and the devil all work to shape and entice our desires and all appealing to what? Well, the lusts of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. Those are all emotive type things to which our eyes and our minds and the emotions of our heart are subject and we have to be careful, the lust of the flesh, all these things we’re talking about. Now, that being the case Renton, in Genesis six five just prior to the flood, the Bible says this, it’s actually the first occurrence of the word heart in scripture it says this, and God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart, interesting mine imagination then the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it seems this heart condition does represent the sin cursed condition of mankind without God of course. And so what you’d explained about in Romans, here’s the question, but how did God create mankind and to this day desires the heart of man to be, it was not created, cursed, it did not. And it was not always as Romans one talks about, so how did God create for what purpose? What was that heart’s condition and what does he desire it to be today?
Renton Rathbun: Well, what you are putting your finger on is exactly one of the main differences between Catholicism and Orthodox Protestantism. So how do Catholics view this? How do Protestants who are conservative Protestants view this? So the Catholic system actually holds that God created Adam already with a propensity to obey his affections rather than his intellect. So it’s a propensity. They called this concupiscence and that is the state that God created Adam. Therefore Adam needed something added to him to curve this propensity back into balance. So it’s not just his affections, but back to his intellect. So God added to Adam a gift of grace to balance this propensity towards his affections and make them equally reliant on his intellect. And the Catholics call this gift of grace, the doum super adom, which is just Latin for it, a super added gift. And this just means that God’s supernaturally added to Adam, this grace that allowed this balance to take place.
Renton Rathbun: Well, as we know, that gift was not enough and Adam fell in Genesis three. But you can also see that also places on them a hedging of responsibility. So how responsible is someone? Is this this a problem he’s just always had since he began? Is it really Adam’s fault that he has this displaced desire? And so you can see why praying people out of hell and purgatory come into play because there’s a hedging of how responsible we are through Adam. But as Protestants we view the Genesis account very differently. First of all, we believe that in Genesis that there is no statement of a super added gift anywhere. What we see is that God created Adam and he was good. Adam was created with his heart’s propensity already toward God. He was not created with a sinful propensity. He was not created with an imbalance that needed balance.
Renton Rathbun: There is no victimhood here. He was created already, fully obligated and fully directed towards God in his heart. And therefore his sin was not an imbalance. It was not where the gift failed Adam nor was it a disproportionate tendency towards the sinful affection. His inmost being turned from God to himself. His heart became utterly wicked as Romans 1 21 teaches his heart no longer honored or thanked God. And that is how we view how God made us. He did make us perfect. It was when we sinned in our hearts, that is where the turn took place. God did not create us with a problem that he had to fix and the fix wasn’t enough. He created us perfectly and sin turned our hearts from him.
Sam Rohrer: All right, that is excellent. Now, there are some things though that can turn our hearts as you’re talking about it. I want you to expand upon this just a little bit as well because as I read the scripture, it talks about certain things shaping the heart. So what can you share about helping our listeners understand that there is a battle underway for our hearts and the choices that we have and that does influence and that does shape our heart? For instance, one example scripture tells us that Solomon against counsel, he didn’t do what was right, but he took many wives and that turned his heart to idols. Alright, so that’s an example. The heart can turn from one position to another. Anything about that? And then next segment we’re going to talk about how people can prepare their heart to go back to God, but talk about those factors that do turn our hearts along the way of life.
Renton Rathbun: Exactly. So without Christ, your heart is turned only one direction, and that is away from God to your father, the devil. And so as Ephesians two puts it, you are dead in your sin. You are not semi lucid in your sin. You’re not just confused in your sin, you’re a dead person. So our real battle begins at salvation because when the Lord saves us and we are given a new heart, if I can put it that way, where we are new beings in Christ, we still have a battle in our heart because the old nature still remains. There’s still the old nature that still has to be killed every day. And so what we see in Ephesians six is there’s a darkness of this world. It is not a general darkness, it’s just not a tendency towards bad things. But this darkness is actually a group of beings who we wrestle with.
Renton Rathbun: So we don’t wrestle with flesh and blood, but we wrestle with principalities and powers, real beings that have a plan that is constantly trying to get us to turn our hearts from the Lord. And that is the goal of these beings. And we call them Satan and his demons. And usually people start thinking someone’s crazy when they start talking about that sort of thing. But that is where our battle is. And Satan has worked his best throughout time and right into our society today to make every piece of entertainment, every piece of information as some kind of idle making thing so that our hearts would turn towards an idol, even makes things that seem good, look like and look so good that we make idols out of it. And so with all these different distractions, all these different idols that Satan is making trying to get us to replace our Christ with those things, our hearts are always in a battle.
Renton Rathbun: And it is why that a lot of the Puritans used to say this, they would look forward to heaven, not because they were excited about the streets of gold, although that’s wonderful and all the spectacular things that we think of when it comes to heaven. What the Puritans would say is that they would look forward to heaven because it would be a place and a time where they no longer had the desire to sin, where sin would no longer have that temptation in their old man as they would put it. And that was what they looked forward to. That was what their desire was, that one day they would not have this battle anymore and they would be able to, as it’s mentioned many times in scripture, have a place of rest where the battle is over and now we get to worship God with pure hearts that are never battled for they are toward God and naturally toward God and made new toward God. And we are excited because that is what we should be looking forward to when it comes to heaven. And so the darkness of this world constantly tries to turn us, but there is that glory in heaven that we look forward to.
Sam Rohrer: Ladies and gentlemen, we talk often about anticipating the Lord’s return, everything about it what Renton just said, there are more than one reason. I don’t just want to be with the Lord, I do personally. I do want to be free of a sin cursed world that is always attacking the mind and the heart and all that we’re talking about today. Now when we come back, we’re going to conclude with some practical comments on how one can prepare their heart as Ezra did, to seek the Lord to have a heart like David did after God. And I’m going to ask Renton this question as well. Is the phrase follow your heart ever reliable? Is it ever reliable? We’ll ask him that question as well and we come back in just a few moments, okay? Ranon, before we get into the practical application here of what can be done to change and to direct our heart as some of the individuals in scripture did, like in Ezra as an example, let me come back and ask you that question. I said on the other side of the break, and that is, this is the phrase, follow your heart. Is that ever reliable? Or I’ll just say this, is it conditionally reliable? Expand upon that if you don’t mind.
Renton Rathbun: Sure. In Psalm 37, 4, it reads this way, delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart. Commit your way to the Lord, trust also in him and he will do it. What we find in Psalm 37, 4 is this condition and response to the condition. So the condition is delighting yourself in the Lord, produces in the Lord A, if I can put it this way, in a very human way of speaking, an obligation where the Lord will give you the desires of your heart. And so if you look at the grammar of this closely, it is not saying that God will give you what you have been desiring, but he will give you what your desires will be. And so he actually delivers desires to your heart and you begin to desire things you may not have ever desired before you begin to long for things you haven’t longed for before because of your delighting in the Lord.
Renton Rathbun: And what’s interesting about that word delight is that it is a word that requires a kind of affection will and mindset towards the Lord that is summed up in this word delight. I mean, when you think about what that word means, you think about when I am watching my child do something that is wonderful or copies me or something that I am that pleases me. And when I see my child do that, I find myself delighting in my child. And that word has so much meaning behind it. It’s not merely affection, it’s certainly affection. It’s not merely my will towards that child, but it is that. And it’s not just my mind focused on my child and enjoying my child, but it is that too. It’s all those things. And do we have that for the Lord? If we have that for the Lord, he gives desires for your heart and you begin to desire new things and following your heart at that point becomes something that is a godly movement of the will for your life.
Sam Rohrer: And that reminds me of an example. Renton, the prophet Nathan King David called him. God had just given Israel peace, victory was now there, the land was at peace. And David, it says, was in his house. And he said, you know what? I’m in my house comfortable, but God has no house and God put the idea of a temple building a place for God to reside. And he talked to Nathan about it and Nathan said to him, go and do all that is in thine heart, for the Lord is with you. So it is possible, but it comes in conjunction with what you’re talking about. It’s clear that the world and the devil as we’ve been talking about, they say, follow me the world and the devil say, follow me. Our flesh says follow my passions, my desires, my feelings. But Jesus says, follow me. Bible says, fear God and keep my commandments.
Sam Rohrer: And through scripture emphasizes a principle that as you’ve said, as a man, think within his heart. So is he. Apostle Paul says, set your affections, your desires, your mind on things above, not on things of the earth. So there’s a lot of choice involved with this. So within these principles and the fact that Ezra and others purposed in their hearts to serve the Lord or prepared their hearts to seek the law, in the case of Ezra, there is a way. There are things that people can do to align and shape their hearts with God’s will. So let’s conclude now, provide some instruction here on how a person who wants to have a heart with God’s desires, not his own fleshly desires, how that can be so that God’s will not his own feelings and selfish desires are what comes out of the heart.
Renton Rathbun: First John two, three through six says this. By this we know that we have come to know him. Speaking of God, if we keep his commandments, the one who says, I have come to know him and does not keep His commandments is a liar. And the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word in him, the love of God has truly been perfected by this. We know that we are in him. The one who says he abides in him ought himself to walk in the same manner as he walked. Now what we see here in these verses is that keeping God’s commandments does not lead to knowing God. But knowing God is understood when someone is keeping his commandments. And so we can recognize people who know God by how they follow his commandments. So what am I getting at? I’m getting at this.
Renton Rathbun: If God has really done a work in your life, if God has really made you new and you are a new creature, if I can put it this way, you have a new heart. You’re a different person now, then the things you desire, and even if I can put it this way, the things you fear will change. You might fear whether or not you are following the Lord, whether or not you’re one of his. Well. Dead people don’t have those fears. Dead people don’t have fear like that at all. They don’t have any fear. So that is something inside us that is pushing us towards a love for God. And when we think about what our love for God really means, if we’re going to be tangible about this, when we talk about holiness, God is talking about his love for himself. The Father loves the son.
Renton Rathbun: The son loves the Father. The Father loves the spirit. The spirit loves the Father. The spirit loves the son. The Son loves the spirit. There is this love that is going on within the trinity and that is at the core of holiness. And anything that disturbs that love is what we call sin. And so do we. Long for our Lord, not in holiness of trying to do acts so that God will approve of us, but in our love for the Lord, do we long to be holy. And so I have been obsessed with this for quite some time now, probably because my own life needs this in. It is are we longing to be holy? Has God put inside of us something that longs to obey his commandments? Not so that we would be approved, but because we have been approved through Christ and we long to be like our God.
Renton Rathbun: So if there is no commitment to holiness this commitment, which means a difference in my habits, a difference in the way I do things all the way up to when I wake up in the morning is my first, do I first speak to the Lord or do I grab my phone? That kind of commitment. Am I committing myself to holiness because of the love I’ve had for my God? Am I daily taking up that cross to follow Christ so that I might be able to pursue this holiness? Because I think that is that key, because holiness God was holy before there was anything created, which means he loved himself long before there was any creation. And imitating God is imitating that love for him. And so how do we do that? We do that with our daily practice of how we follow him towards holiness.
Sam Rohrer: So ladies and gentlemen, do you have a heart that’s after God? Do I have a heart that’s after God? Do our thoughts, do our desires, our emotions, our actions, our deeds? Do they reflect a desire for holiness and to be like Christ and to live out what it means to be the light and salt that God’s intense be, that goes to the meaning of heart. I hope that you consider that as we go into this week.
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