Health Freedom Update: Election Results, Projection, and More
Nov. 13, 2024
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Twila Brase
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 11/13/24. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer: Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand In the Gap Today. And it’s also our monthly focus on health freedom with the president and the co-founder of Citizens Council for Health Freedom Twila Brase. Now as President-elect, Donald Trump continues to make public his choices for cabinet positions, the hope for smaller and more efficient government increases, and the longing for restored individual freedom, which has been such under attack for many years now with a federal government getting out of the citizens’ individual lives, that becomes more possible. But if constitutionally guaranteed freedoms with defined and limited federal and state government are to be restored, you know what I stated there? Government does not give us freedom, but government does and can get their hands off of our freedom that our constitution already grants. That’s why I stated that the way I did. But it’s to be restored.
Sam Rohrer: Freedom that is it will be of necessity include the area of health freedom. And as we’ve discussed on this program, many times in the past, health freedom includes, well it’s a fairly broad area, but decision making for instance about personal health or doctor patient relationships are a part of health, freedom, privacy and health records and their collection and the security of that. That’s a part of it. Healthcare costs certainly a part. And of course you cannot talk about health freedom without talking about the unconstitutional involvement of the federal government in all matters of healthcare and so much more. Well, all of these areas and more are of going to be to focus today hereby Twila myself and what she has done through her organization, citizens Council for Health Freedom since it was actually formed. But we all pray and we hope we’ll talk about it today, areas that possibly, hopefully can be improved upon under a second Trump administration. So today on the program, we’ll discuss what we can about these areas, all of which are important to every person who’s listening to me right now. The title I’ve chosen to frame today’s conversation is simply this Health Freedom Update, Election Results, Projections, and more. So we will tie all these things in there with that. I welcome to the program right now, Twila Brase. Thanks for being back, Twila.
Twila Brase: Well, it’s great to be back and great to be back in the post-election atmosphere.
Sam Rohrer: It is different, isn’t it? Without a doubt. It is different. A lot of things that you have done tie right into this. So I’m not going to get too far off base here at the moment, but health freedom, that’s your issue. A new administration, anytime it comes into being, it’s all about government is all about regulations, making more of them or making less of them or changing some that are there unmake or remake laws and regulations. And anyway, that being the case in a general sense right now, just in a broader general sense, as a result of last week’s election mandate for a second Trump administration, how do you Twila see the areas of health freedom that you’ve been talking about defending for a long time being potentially impacted by a second Trump administration?
Twila Brase: Yes, I think it really depends on who comes on board. I’m watching with interest, who’s at the DOD now because of the whole electronic health record snafu there and is there something that we can do or Kristi Noem at Homeland Security with real id? But it really depends on who comes aboard and what Elon Musk and they do in the new Department of Government efficiency. I mean, what they could find and what they could do might be just amazing. Trump in October, 2019 put out probably his last executive order, which was meant to go into effect on his first day of his second inauguration and that would’ve implemented what was called Schedule F and would’ve allowed the firing of 75% of federal employees. And if you’ve watched what is saying, he said that’s what they’re planning to do. He hasn’t called it Schedule F, he’s just talked about it.
Twila Brase: And this is really important because maybe we would get back to where we belong constitutionally under the non-delegation doctrine where Congress is not allowed through rulemaking to put these bureaucrats in charge of making new rules that have the full force and effective law that happened during FDRs time when he tried to create these agencies that we’ve now got a whole boatload of. Right. And the Supreme Court ruled that under the non-delegation doctrine he could not do this. And then he promised to pack the court and then some Supreme Court justice whose name I can’t remember, decided to change his mind for whatever reason. And so now we have all these agencies, but this is very exciting for what the possibilities might be.
Sam Rohrer: Yeah, it is to me as well. Let’s move on. I don’t know if you’ll better finish it in this segment, but your organization, citizens Council for Health Freedom under your leadership, communicated already to President elect Trump some concerns and suggestions and there you call it, make healthcare great again. He dated at November 7th last week. Lemme just read a part of that because I think it states a lot and then comment as we have time. But you said this, I am requesting a 15 minute from you or with you referring to Donald Trump. I will use my time and my expertise to share key actions. Our organization believes you have the power to take during your first 30 in office to put an end to damaging, immoral and unethical government and corporate intrusion into the private medical decisions of patients and doctors. Alright, that was stated. Great. Twila, what’s the status of this request? An open letter. He said to the president, can you share a few of the issues of importance you cited and some of the corrective actions for whatever time we have? We can drag it over to the next segment if we need to. And have you heard anything back yet?
Twila Brase: Okay, so this is an open letter and we sent it to the press and we heard right away from one DC based news reporter. And so we’ll see what happens with that. But we are looking for every avenue to get to President Trump’s people or to Bobby Kennedy. And in addition to that, I’d like to say that that includes social media. So we’re putting out anybody who has connections that we know of, we’re sending this letter to them. And I will say that somebody put my name in the nominations page of Bobby Kennedy’s nominees for the people. So getting more votes would increase the likelihood that this meeting will take place. And so anybody can go in to the MAHA, it’s MAHA, MAHA, make America healthy again and it’s the nominees for the people page. And they can just search my name and vote, put in a vote so they can also pray to make it happen. But they can also look for this letter on our website, but I want you to know it’s a bit of a tease. So I want to name the disease that’s infected healthcare and then provide seven suggestions including freeing people from Medicare and giving them the right to opt out, which is so essential for health freedom.
Sam Rohrer: Okay, and that’s great because ladies and gentlemen, we are going to talk about an effort, therefore Medicare among a number of other things. Stay with us. In the next segment, we’re going to go into this area of real ID and the campaign that Twila was a part of, we were a part of. We’re going to get an update on what’s happening in that and how the Trump administration, the new one may impact that. If you’re just joining us today, this is our monthly health freedom update. Twila Brase, co-founder and president of Citizens Council for Health Freedom with a website@cchfreedom.org is with me today and post-election, A lot of things are hopeful. Things are in change for sure, without a doubt how they actually work out in all areas and the area that would impact health freedom is yet to be known. But we’re trying to share a few of the things upon which work has been done and how some of those may be impacted by what’s coming up.
Sam Rohrer: But Twila, one of the issues we’ve discussed many times on this program is an issue I fought hard against when I was in the Pennsylvania General Assembly years ago and was actually the issue that first led you and I to meet. And that’s regarding the unconstitutional, the unnecessary, and the dangerous government surveillance tool referred to as real id. Now first, can you provide an update on the success? What came out of the effort to encourage people to go and sign up on the website, their opinions about real id? And we’ll just go there. Where does that sit? What actually happened and has anything happened as a result of people going online?
Twila Brase: Well, thanks to you for letting me know during our conversation in September that you had gotten wind of this. We did a major campaign to everyone and organization we could do in a very short period of time to get public comments. So on September 18th, there were 63 public comments and most of them were in support of imposing real id, extra enforcement. And then by the time we ended it at the deadline on October 15th, we had, so there were 63 comments right on September 18th and on October 15th there were 31,764 comments, most of them against this enhanced enforcement, progressive enforcement initiative of theirs. And so I think that they were planning to sneak this in without any public comment, any real public notification during this heated presidential election. But really due to you and us initiating it, that didn’t happen. So it was a real success in managing to get public comments against this unconstitutional initiative.
Sam Rohrer: And Twila, I want to thank you for that. And ladies and gentlemen, you’re listening. I know because I’ve here for many of you, you enjoy this focus. You enjoy Twila being on the program. I do as well because this area of our life touches all of us. And certainly I agree with you, Twila, without a doubt, the effort was to slide this in the middle of all the other distractions and then they could come out if they’d want to and say, see, everybody’s in favor of it when in reality, no, they really weren’t. And so yeah, 30 some thousand against 67, that’s pretty good. So thank you for the efforts that you have done on that. Now at this juncture, my guess is that nothing is going to be done on that with the new administration coming into effect. You can comment on that, but let’s just walk right into it.
Sam Rohrer: You mentioned Kristi Noem, governor of South Dakota, who Trump has nominated as a Secretary of Homeland Security. Now they deal with this matter of real ID because they oversee the TSA and all of that. Now that being the case, assuming that Kristi Noem is confirmed as Secretary of Homeland Security, what do you know about her and her response to the implementation of real ID as governor of South Dakota, what she has stated and what may be her involvement. So let’s put that way relative to real ID and what it’s scheduled to go into full effect actually next May. So what do you think is going to happen relative to her?
Twila Brase: Okay, so first of all, the deadline, May 7th, TSA and Department of Homeland Security said they’re not moving the deadline from May 7th, 2025, but they’re going to allow two years of progressive enforcement and progressive consequences, including they suggest a three strikes and you’re out, come to the airport three times, they’ll warn you three times and the fourth time they’ll send you home ticket in hand, children in hand, luggage in hand, okay? That’s what was in this proposed rule that people were saying no to. Okay. Now Kristi Noem, if she gets in, it will take some work. I’ll just say that because North Dakota jumped on the real ID wagon a bandwagon really quickly and they have 99% of their state’s licenses are real ID compliant today. Iowa on the other hand is 64. And in the great state of Minnesota where I am located, less than 38%, probably because of our sharp involvement with this issue since Obama advanced it.
Twila Brase: So I think it will take work, I think it will take a campaign. I think it might take us trying to get state legislators in as many states as possible to write a letter to her saying, shut this down, it’s unconstitutional. Pennsylvania legislators and Missouri legislators in 2017 sent a letter to Trump, two separate letters saying this is a usurpation of state’s rights. It’s a violation of the Fourth Amendment’s privacy rights. And telling them to basically shut it down. I don’t think he probably ever saw that letter, but it is time to resurrect a campaign against this. Right now there are 44% of driver’s licenses and identification cards that are not real ID compliant. And we want to take that number to 46 and 48 and 50 and 55%. We need it to go the other direction and I think it will take a campaign and anyone in the state that doesn’t require it, there’s only five states that require it needs to go back and get a different driver’s license. So we can move this in the opposite direction.
Sam Rohrer: Okay. I think that is good one clarification. You referenced what had happened in North Dakota, but Kristi’s from South Dakota, did you mean South Dakota?
Twila Brase: I do. I do mean South Dakota, yes.
Sam Rohrer: Okay, alright. Just wanted to clarify that. Okay. Beyond that, let’s go into what the current strategy is, this phased implementation you referred to as strike three and you’re out. This is a different approach. This has been on the books for a long time. It’s been postponed and postponed and postponed and now it appears May 7th next year that they’re not going to postpone it again for the sake of establishing how, I’m going to say a dictatorial centralized government would try to implement such a thing as this, ID build that out a little bit. What would that three strikes in your route phase implementation look like?
Twila Brase: So first of all, they say that they haven’t extended it, but they really have, they’re just going to do enhance or what they call progressive enforcement and progressive consequences for two more years. And so they really are extending it, but they’re staying, they’re not extending it. So they’re just giving the states and the TSA more leeway to threaten people that they won’t be able to fly, even though constitutionally that’s not correct. And even DHS says there are 16 other licenses you could use or identification cards like a VA medical card or a military card or a passport or a passport card. There are 16 others on the TSA website. And so it’s going to be a, if you look at the rule, they really talk about how this is going to convince people that they need to fall in line. I’m not quoting them now, but that’s what they mean, that they’re going to have to comply.
Twila Brase: I’m just saying you don’t have to comply, get yourself a passport if you’re really worried and then exchange your real ID for a standard driver’s license and let’s shut down this system. It’s a system. This is not just a card, it’s a system. Let’s shut down this system that is setting us up for a social credit system. Now, just imagine if Kamala had gotten elected all the controls and how they could have been imposed through putting this identification number or driver’s license on your phone. And if you think that sounds farfetched, in December, 2023, this organization of motor vehicle administrators testified to Congress in a testimony they called Beyond Real ID beyond. And they said, we look forward to putting it on people’s phones and having real time remote access to it. What does that mean? They could just shut down your ID as soon as they decided you were providing misinformation, you had a traffic ticket, you were doing something outside of climate change controls, whatever it was, you were going to leave your 15 minute city.
Twila Brase: You just think about that. But that’s where they’re going and that’s what they want to do. And so we do need to work with Christine Noam to try to, if that’s who’s really going to be in, to try to shut this down and put pressure on her to realize what this is. And Lamar Alexander in 2005 called it a national id and he meant what he said and it is, and constitutionally, the government has no place issuing all of us real IDs. And like I said, the Missouri and Pennsylvania legislators, they said it in their letters to Trump that this is a use patient of states’ rights. So we have to take it back individually and take it back as states.
Sam Rohrer: And ladies and gentlemen, it is much, much bigger. It is in fact a system. It was always intended to be a much broader system. We’ve talked about it on previous programs. There’s a lot of information that TWI has on her website. But when such a thing as it is is coordinated with your biometrics, which is the heart of it, and it’s linked to international standards of which other globalist countries are already a part, you get the idea. Just think about it. And when you think about it, the results are not good. We don’t want it. So alright, when you come back, we’re going to move to Medicare because Medicare is a big, big impact on health freedom and we’re going to talk about Twila’s Medicare guide now available. All right, Twila, let’s move to Medicare. We’ve spoken much about that when you were with me last several months.
Sam Rohrer: We’ve talked about it and you have shared how you were working on a document. We’ve talked about what Medicare is, what it’s not, how people should better understand what they’re hearing about Medicare because everybody, once they approach that 60 age range, and certainly by age 65, they’re getting stuff in the mail all the time about signing up for Medicare and what it means. And there’s a lot of deception out there. And so we’re going to try and make it a little bit clearer here. But since that time you’ve completed now this document, very well done by the way, and I haven’t read every word in it because it’s lengthy, but lots of good information in it, you’ve entitled it the Medicare How to Guide Empowering Seniors to navigate and Protect their Health Choices. Now, many of you listening to me right now, maybe you’re not of the point where you’re in the age of time where you’re facing Medicare, but if you’re not there yourself, you probably listening to me. You have parents who are in that area or you’re not too far off. So what we’re talking about does apply to you. And if it doesn’t apply at the moment, it does apply to somebody that you do know and yourself. So that being the case, it’s relevant. Twila, would you describe the type of common questions that the guide answers, the type of information that you’ve put within it, and then for sure how people can get it?
Twila Brase: Yes. Happy to do that. We have some questions, sorry. We have information in here that you will not find in any other guide for sure. We have 10 Medicare traps, so a list of 10 Medicare traps and how to avoid them. We have a section that describes the difference between Medicare Advantage and original Medicare. And I’ve had agents tell me that when people come into the office, they think the only thing available is Medicare Advantage. They don’t even know original Medicare exists. We talk about why to avoid Medicare Advantage. We talk about Medigap, what it is and why it’s a really good idea. We have a checklist, we’ve got 12 questions for Medicare agents. We’ve got one of the most comprehensive lists of key terms, including our own extra take on what the term means. And we have a lot of transcribed comments from independent Medicare agents so that everybody doesn’t have to listen to all the videos that I listen to. And they have unique information that you just don’t find anywhere else because they’re in the industry and they see what happens to people and what happens with different types of coverage. So I think, I hope that it is very, very valuable and we have heard really good comments from people already.
Sam Rohrer: Alright, and that is good. Now again, ladies and gentlemen, that website where you can find it is CCH freedom.org. And I would encourage you to do it because it’s the only document resource, put it that way that actually focuses on this issue. Most people don’t even get it about what Medicare is and what it’s not. And so this is helpful. You can get it there. Now, Twila, when I go to your website and I did encourage people to do so when they get there, they will find you have the header marked Medicare and Obamacare, you have them link Medicare and Obamacare. It’s in like one title here. Now, just for the sake of context, would you describe the connection between Medicare and Obamacare and why you grouped these two together?
Twila Brase: Well, they’re not officially connected in any way per se, but they are two large government programs. But we have decided that given how much we’re now doing on the Medicare issue, we are going to split them because we’ve, particularly with Trump in, we’re going to go back to trying to get our executive order, the one we got in October, 2019 to allow people to opt out of Medicare without losing their social security. So this is a newly designed website. We decided to put them together when we first started it. Now we’re going to split it. So it’s not very complicated. But the reality is when we initially did it, it’s like these two are really big programs and we’ll just let people go find the information on both of them in one place.
Sam Rohrer: Well, that’s good. That’s rather innocent sounding. But when I saw them there, my thought was as someone who has been in government and I fought the involvement of the federal government in any aspect of healthcare, if they have no constitutional basis to do so, Obamacare was probably, I’m looking at them saying that’s one of the grandest efforts to take over healthcare and eliminate health freedom. But Medicare is right in there too. That was just an earlier attempt to try to interject the federal government into an area in which they did not belong. So when I looked at them, I thought it’s appropriate that they are linked because they’re two of the same type different problems, but it’s still the same problem. They’re trying to take over individual health freedom choices. That’s what I thought. So maybe you have some comments on that.
Twila Brase: No, that’s absolutely true. And so the people who put in Medicare really envisioned that was the first step into a socialized medical system will take and take all of the elderly and essentially offer them something that they’ll want to have. And then eventually we’ll just encourage all the health plans, which is what Johnson did. He called the major health companies, and they weren’t health plans at the time, but health insurance companies and said, you’ve got to stop offering coverage after age 65 because we’ve got to have this Medicare program be a success. And so really this is kind of age discrimination that they just stopped at age 65. And so that’s how it happened. And Obamacare was meant to sort of steal the rest of the population into a government program. And so this has been moving progressively forward ever since Medicare.
Sam Rohrer: Okay. And that’s the point ladies and gentlemen I wanted to make. And twilight, you’ve restated that. So the overall aspect, socialistic programs formulated, distributed by the federal government, there’s lots of money involved in it. Again, just from an overall perspective on that, what does the government say the federal government say, is why they are involved? And how do these programs be it aspects of Medicare or aspects of Obamacare? How do they most significantly undermine and attack individual health freedom?
Twila Brase: Well, they would say this is to help seniors and this is to help people without adequate income to pay for coverage and care. But the fact of the matter is they’ve taken away the choice. And by putting the government in charge, the government is now the one who’s doing all sorts of terrible financial things within the healthcare sphere and mandate things like they did for Covid when they said all healthcare workers had to be vaccinated. They use Medicare to do that. So healthcare is more expensive. Medical care and coverage are more expensive today because of Medicare. They have been made unaffordable by Medicare and unaffordable by the so-called Affordable Care Act and Obamacare. And so they can make all sorts of lofty claims of wanting to help people, but they’ve really taken care and coverage, made it unaffordable, made it out of the reach, taken control of their doctors, and they’re now actually cutting the amounts of pay that they’re giving to doctors through this program to the point that doctors will be leaving, they will be leaving. And so there are fewer and fewer doctors and hospitals because hospitals are closing left and right. They’re closing particularly in the rural areas because of the government being involved. And so again, taking away access, taking away close access, taking away affordable care, affordable coverage, access to doctors, willingness of doctors to even be
Sam Rohrer: Involved. And I’m going to add to that, Twilight, ladies and gentlemen, from my perspective, what actually happens when the federal government gets involved, most of the departments that are there now, energy education, none of those are federal government. None of those are there by the constitutional authorization. But what happens? Well, they all now demand billions of dollars to run them. And what happens to those billions of dollars? Well, you’ve got lobbyists that all get involved because they want some of that money and the congressmen and senator get involved because now they can go out and say they’re handing out this money and what happens in the process? Exactly. What we’re seeing happening here, frankly, around the world is now this money becomes bribe money. You attach strings to it so that you say you will get this money if you bow and if you do what we tell you to do now, if you don’t, you’re not going to get this.
Sam Rohrer: That’s what happened under Covid. That’s what you just talked about, Twila. But it’s all through the system. The result, ladies and gentlemen, is that the freedom of people on any area from education to energy to health, it’s all the same. People lose their individual choice under the guise by the guise atop that this is in your interest when in fact it’s not in your interest, it’s in their interest that is at the heart. And I throw that into the mix in our discussion here right now, Twila, we don’t have enough time, but just give me one. You had 10 Medicare traps you mentioned are in this guide, just mentioned one or two of them just briefly, just as a title, just so people get the idea.
Twila Brase: Sure. Yeah. So one of them is the Medicare program itself. As I said, you’re forced into it. No choice if you want your social security benefits, the financial penalties for delayed enrollment. We just talked to somebody who’s got the guide and realize, oh, oh, I’m not covered. I’m going to have penalties for life. And you have to know these things and to avoid them.
Sam Rohrer: Okay. Alright. Those are just two ladies and gentlemen. They’re practical. They’re applicable. You can get that guide, CCH freedom.org, medicare guide, the How to guide. Okay, when we come back, we’re going to shift back to election results and what they may mean and talk about what it might mean If you’ve got a Congress, a house, and a Senate that’s in Republican hands and a president that’s favorable, who knows what. We’ll talk about that. Well, as we enter into our final segment, again, thank you first of all, to all of you who are listening, I’ve actually texted a couple of people who are listening in different states. Thank you for being a part of this program today by listening. Thank you for those who take the time to write. Thank you. Also, for those who go even beyond that and decide to partner with us financially, there is so much more that we could do if people were to pray more.
Sam Rohrer: I’m going to put that priority first, the most important, and then financially partner more. There are many things that are there that can be done in this window of time that we have. And the increasing coverage of this program is one of those. God’s put us in a spot that is now through this program. And the other weekend program and the minute program, including the TV as well, is reaching in all 50 states. And as you know have mentioned it before, effective a week ago, this past Monday, November 4th, this program and the minute and the weekend is now being heard across the country of Kenya, parts of Uganda and in Ethiopia. It’s a very and most significant thing, a very what appears to be a very responsive audience. And you wouldn’t think, why would somebody in another country care about what’s happening here in the United States?
Sam Rohrer: Well, frankly, what happens here in the United States impacts them in other countries. And what I have found in my international travels is that many overseas actually know more what’s going on in our country than we do. In past elections, I found that there were more people organized praying in other countries. Africa was one of them for our election, and knew more what was going on as an example than most people here did. So people who desire truth is our audience. If you’re listening, you are among that category. So anyway, I just put that out there. There is so much more that is happening that God is opening up that again, I ask you to pray, ask you to give, and to be aware of these things. And I’ll share more that’s happening in the days ahead here. But that being the case, let’s go back into this in this last segment.
Sam Rohrer: Let’s return, as I said to the election results and do some projections as to what it might mean as we look ahead. I’m not into projections and that kind of stuff. Everybody speculates. I don’t want to speculate. However you work in the political space. I was in office for nearly 20 years. We do both know that when the majority changes, that things change, laws change, the process changes, priorities change. People know that also, which is why they voted the way they did last Tuesday. But that being the case now with a Senate that is Republican hands and a house that produces a climate where a lot more potentially can get done. Now that being said, based on what at the moment, what aspects of a second Trump administration are likely to be positive when it comes to health freedom and what aspects well may be hostile or perhaps unknown as we sit here today?
Twila Brase: Okay, well, I’ll quickly list a few positives, but I want to start with one negative. The Republicans unfortunately really like Medicare Advantage, which is really these corporations, these health plans are the corporate version of socialized medicine. And Medicare Advantage is ripping off the American public and all the American public. And it’s also rationing care to seniors. It’s really taking advantage of the government. And yet this is typically the Republican solution. And in the 2025 project, which I still think is in play, it asks, it suggests making Medicare advantage the default for Medicare. And I don’t even understand. It’s like they don’t understand what this program is, they just think it’s a private health plan, but it isn’t. This is Ted. He’s the one who got these things in place. But when I think of good things, I think we will see no money for Obamacare marketing.
Twila Brase: I think we’ll see an end of extended taxpayer funded premium credits, which will be good for all of us taxpayers. I think that maybe we’ll see an end to the excess payments to Medicare Advantage plans, which would be good. Right now there’s 83 billion more going to these plans who have half the Medicare population than there is going to the other half of the Medicare population. So they’re just making oodles of caboodles of money coming from taxpayers. And then there’s all these overpayments to Medicare Advantage plans. So maybe some of that will stop the freedom to opt out of Medicare and keep your social security benefits. I really, really, really hope for, there’s the Retirement Freedom Act, which we have been. We are the reason why that act exists. And we will be pushing to have it passed only two years. There’s only two years. The Senate is likely to change hands in two years.
Twila Brase: So freedom to get real health insurance will be pushing for that, shutting down real ID enforcement. I think Trump will bring back short-term limited duration coverage, which can last up to three years and be sort of like an intermediary. If you are stuck between work, jobs, whatever, Biden shut it down to three months and Trump had it at three years, I think healthcare sharing will be protected in a way that it probably wouldn’t under a Harris administration. And I have a question. What I’d like to do is I wonder if we can shut down the e-health exchange, which is sharing all of our medical records nationwide, maybe even globally in some cases. And if we can shut down healthcare.gov, there’s no statute for either of these, and this is something they created to make sure that Obamacare would actually work and we could shut it down and it should be shut down. So those are some of the things that I think could potentially happen, but it has to happen in the next two years.
Sam Rohrer: Well, I tell you what, Twila, if I were still in government position, and ladies and gentlemen, to the extent that you can, I’m going to ask you to go where the people can go to give nominations and all that kind of thing. But the rapidity and preciseness of which you answered my question is an indication of the degree that you understand the problems. And for all of them have solutions. And I think that’s a wonderful thing. Where again, did you say that people can go to give a nod whether it is to put your name in, say again, what you think is a good idea for our listeners to do.
Twila Brase: Yeah, so all they have to do is the best way to do this is to Google MAHA nominees. And then when that pops up, they will see a list of people who have been nominated, and it’s called something like nominees for the People. That’s what the page is called, nominees for the people. And so they can just Google that and it’ll pop up and they can just search for my name, just put it in the search function, TWI lab Brase, and it pops up and they can just vote. They do have to register. It’s really quick registration, but they need a registration because they don’t want every Tom, Dick and Harry who wants to goof this up to come on there. So you do have to log in and be able to do this. But it is one way that at least if I couldn’t get nominated, maybe it would let me get in the door for the 15 minute meeting with Trump.
Sam Rohrer: Correct.
Twila Brase: And Bobby,
Sam Rohrer: Yeah. And that’s possibly more likely in reality, perhaps, but who knows? But Maha what?
Twila Brase: It’s not Maha and it’s a longer page. So I’m just saying Google. You can Google Maha. There you go. You can Google nominees for the people, nominees for the people, and it will come up.
Sam Rohrer: Okay. That’s very good. And that brings us right up to the close of the program today. Twila, thanks for being with me. Great information. Look forward to talking with you again in December next month when you’re here again, and we’ll have a whole lot more ladies and gentlemen to update on this broader issue. I know by that point. So thank you all for being with me today here on Stand In the Gap Today. Take this program, go to the website on our app, forward it to a friend. If a friend is a friend, give them good information. You’ll become more of a friend. Pass along this program to them. They will enjoy it. Thanks for being with us. We’ll see you back here tomorrow. Lord willing.
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