Bibles in Schools: The Present, the Past, and the Possibility

Bibles in Schools: The Present, the Past, and the Possibility

March 13, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest(s): David New, Ryan Walters

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 3/13/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Thursday edition of Stand In the Gap Today. And it’s also our bimonthly emphasis on the Constitution and American history. My recurring guest as normal. A favorite on this program is constitutional attorney David, new author, historian, and public speaker. Well, not today on this program, we’re also honored to have with us for the first two segments I’m going to describe as someone an ardent and passionate individual. He is the Oklahoma State Superintendent of Public Instruction, the Honorable Ryan Walters, now first appointed by then Governor Stitt in 2020 to the position of Secretary of Public Education, Ryan, superintendent Walters ran for and won the elected position of state superintendent of public instruction in 2022. Despite, as you can predict, extreme opposition by many groups including the radical teacher’s union. Now that being said, from his understanding, and I’m reading into this, we’ll talk to him in just a second, but from his understanding of American history, his knowledge of the undeniable impact of a strong Judeo-Christian worldview foundation laid down in the early years of our American experiment in freedom, what William Penn here in my state of Pennsylvania said, and clearly the connected, undeniable impact of God’s word, the Bible in our foundation of our culture and our law and government superintendent Ryan Walters, has embarked on an effort to put Bibles back in the classrooms of Oklahoma’s schools.

And it’s this initiative that caused me to reach out to him today. And I’m so glad that he was able to fit us into his schedule and that he can join David New and I today on this program. The title I’ve chosen to frame our discussion today is this, Bibles in Schools, the Present, the Past, and the Possibility. And we’re going to discuss all of those in the balance of this program. With that Lee, welcome right now to the program, the Honorable Ryan Walters, superintendent of Public Instruction in the great state of Oklahoma. Ryan, thank you for being with us.

Ryan Walters:

Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it.

Sam Rohrer:

You are welcome. Well, you know what, I introduced you and it’s out there. You were appointed by Governor Stits then as Secretary of Education, but then you ran for the publicly elected position of superintendent of public instruction, which you did in 2022. Just out of curiosity, what’s the difference between those two positions?

Ryan Walters:

That’s a great question. We’re one of the stranger states here. There’s only 10 other states that function the way we do. So we’re Secretary of Education role is largely just a policy director for the governor. So there’s not a lot of constitutional authority there. Most of our authority over the education system, the person who runs the agency, the person who sets rules and regulations for the public school system and oversees the public school system is a statewide elected state superintendent. That was where I went from a policy director role. I got tired of watching our state superintendent who was a liberal democrat, just run education system in the ground that I heard from enough parents around the state that I decided to run for that office and won that two years ago. And we’ve been rocking and rolling over here ever since.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, so actually in your state, in my state of commonwealth of Pennsylvania, we’re not set up the way you’re talking about. So you’re one of the 10 states you said. So in your capacity right now, you are actually not just crafting some theoretical policy, you are actually in a position now to be able to make action and put specific things directly into the schools. Is that right?

Ryan Walters:

That’s absolutely right. I mean, we’ve been able to, from day one, we eliminated C-R-T-D-E-I transgenderism from our schools and we’ve gone back to promoting actual the basics, right? Math, reading, writing, arithmetic, history. And when we say history, we mean it. We mean the kids are going to actually read the founding documents, they’re going to actually read the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, and they are going to read the Bible. The Bible was instrumental in American history. It’s the number one most read book in American history, number one most cited book in American history. And so we have placed it back in its historical context so their kids understand history. We are able to implement that in our schools. We’re able to make sure that all of our kids understand American history.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, and that is exciting and obviously most listening to this program would say, yay, yay, amen. What a great thing that is. On the other hand, there are others who say, don’t you dare, and we’ll chat a bit about that. But in the bounce the last couple minutes of this first segment, let me ask you this question because the next segment we’re going to talk to you about specifically what and how you’re going about this initiative. But let’s get back to the inside part of it. Why did you come to the point, why and when perhaps did you decide that placing Bibles back in the public school classrooms was in fact something worthy of such effort?

Ryan Walters:

Great question. So when I started that transition and running for public office, we have 77 counties in Oklahoma. I went to every county, met tens of thousands of Oklahomans. And I heard this time and time again, why is it that our kids don’t understand American history? Why isn’t it that our kids don’t understand American exceptionalism? What made this country great? Why do our kids not understand that there were Judeo Christian values that the country was centered around that helped forge a morality in this country that understood that society functioned yes, because of laws, but just as important if not important because of the morality of people as Franklin and John Adams and Washington all said that yes, this is great, we have set forth a country, but the people have to be a good moral people. Why don’t the kids understand that? And it’s because we took the bible out of schools.

I heard it time and time again. The Bible out of school and prayer out of school have led to the degradation of our society. And you look, and by the way, statistically look since 1962 when the Supreme Court ruled for the Bible and prayer to be out of school, every academic statistic has gotten worse and every behavioral societal issue has gotten worse. Teenage suicide is up, teenage drug use is up. We have literally seen society go downward. We’ve seen academic performance go downward. So that was where we began our initiative to say, absolutely we will bring the Bible back to school and we’ll bring prayer back to school.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, so those are good, practical, historically observable things that you mentioned you as a person. Ryan, was the Bible important in your growing up?

Ryan Walters:

It absolutely was. I mean, my dad’s a preacher, so that was something that was, we read a lot, we looked at a lot. I was very close with my grandfather. He was a navy veteran. We spent a lot of time, he worked with cattle, so I was often out there with him working with the cattle and we had a lot of conversations and he had a very fasting perspective. He joined the Navy was in Korea, Vietnam comes home and he becomes to be a Navy recruiter. So this is seventies. And he talked about to me how different things were beginning to come without prayer, without the Bible in school. And so we really started having these discussions and as I grew up, I began observing. Sure enough, you see a very different society now than we did before. And so that really helped forge my perspective to start digging deeper and deeper. I became a history teacher. So I taught a history courses for 10 years. And you look at history and you go, guys, this wasn’t even controversial to the sixties.

Sam Rohrer:

No it wasn’t. No it wasn’t. Ryan, we’re about out of time. So ladies and gentlemen, you get the idea. My special guest today is Ryan Walters. He is the superintendent of public instruction elected position in the state of Oklahoma. When we come back, we’re going to talk about this initiative of putting Bibles back in the school. What’s it look like? How’s it going to happen? Well, if you’re just joining us today, this is a special emphasis. This is our constitutional and American history focus program. We do this every other Thursday, constitutional, David New and I do this. We are together today, but we are also really pleased to have as a guest here in the first two segments, the honorable Ryan Walters. He is currently serving as the superintendent for the Oklahoma Well public instruction. He was elected in 2022. It’s a position that only about 10 states have in this fashion, but it’s a very, very critical role.

So in that capacity, our theme today, because we’re talking about this, Bibles in schools, the present, we’re going to talk about that now, the past and the possibility, we’re going to talk about that. David and I will in segment three and four, but Superintendent Walters, let me get right into this right now because according to an official release from your office just about a week ago, dated March the sixth, 2025, on your letterhead, you said this in the first paragraph, in a significant move to enrich educational resources, Lee Greenwood, which we’ve had on this program before, God Bless America, Lee Greenwood. Lee Greenwood partners with Ryan Walters, state Superintendent of Public Schools in a nationwide campaign to donate Bibles to classrooms across the state of Oklahoma. This effort brings back foundational texts into the educational system emphasizing their historical and cultural significance. Alright, there’s a lot in there, Ryan, I’m going to switch back and forth, Ryan, superintendent Walters, but exactly what do you envision here?

For instance, with the Bible initiative I’m going to put out here, these are possibilities. For instance, is the goal to prominently display a Bible on, for instance, each teacher’s desk, which used to happen a Bible in the hands of every public school student? Or is it reading a passage every day publicly over the loudspeaker system by the superintendent, which frankly used to happen too, or a required time each week for some instruction from the Bible to the students by the teachers in the classrooms. All of these are possibilities. But what do you envision by your initiative?

Ryan Walters:

First step that we’re going to do is we want the Bible to be present in every classroom. So we got the Bible, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights for our kids to be educated citizens of America, they have to understand those documents and look, the left loses their mind that we’re going to put a Bible in the classroom. But how do you understand American government, American society, without the most red book in American history. So that’s kind of the fight there, number one. Number two, we have embedded the Bible and our standards. So when you teach history courses, we have embedded throughout our history standards, references to the Bible. You can’t understand American history or Western civilization without understanding the Bible’s influence, without understanding the history recorded in the Bible, the stories that have been so instrumental in American history.

And then thirdly, what we have done is ensure that we are going to develop curriculum around that so that can see conceptually how the Bible influenced folks like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln. Nearly every president has mentioned the Bible in their speeches with Bible verses explicitly laid out. So again, it is to make sure, number one, yes, that the Bible is their present displayed. Number two, to make sure that it’s embedded in its historical context throughout the classroom instruction. Then number three, make sure that it is taught in the classroom so the kids understand the influence that it’s had.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, so in that essence, it’s most of what I said. So it’s a very broad implementation, which I think is very, very significant. David, you got a question for honorable Ryan Walters?

David New:

Yes sir. Mr. Superintendent Ryan Walters, it’s an honor to speak to you today. I’m very pleased to see what you’re doing. I support what you’re doing 100%. I believe that you might consider yourself one of the most dangerous men in America right now, and that’s in a good way because what you’re doing is you are directly threatening the secular state, the unbelieving state, and this is very, very important. And of course what you’re doing with the Bible, which is the most powerful book in the world, is absolutely fantastic. The Bible has been in court more than any other book, and it’s the most censored book in the world, in this country, rather. So what you’re doing is important. Ladies and gentlemen, those of you in Oklahoma, please call your house representatives and let them know that you support Superintendent Ryan Walters. It’s a toll free number 805 2 2 85 0 2. If you have opportunity, also call the Oklahoma Senate (405) 524-0126. Superintendent, do you think this case is going to go to the Supreme Court and if it does, will the United States Supreme Court, would the Trump appointees rule in your favor?

Ryan Walters:

Absolutely. Look, I appreciate that question and your comments there. Look, I think that the A CLU radical left wing atheists that continue to sue us every step of the way here are going to push this all the way to the US Supreme Court. And frankly, I can’t wait for a day in court. I think that this Supreme Court with President Trump’s appointed justices, they are originalists, they look back at what the Constitution says, not what some 1970s law professor said that it says not what the 1960s Warren Court says that it says they actually look to the constitution and the history and what the folks who wrote it said about it, and frankly how it was implemented for well over a century after its inception. So when you look at those indicators, when you look at that evidence, it is crystal clear that of course the founders did not want to strike the Bible out of the classroom. Of course, they didn’t want our kids to be in state-sponsored atheist sinners where your kids are told that religion and Christianity and the Bible played no role in American history. Of course the founders would want the Bible there and our kids to be knowledgeable about it.

Sam Rohrer:

And Ryan, lemme just share one thing for all of you listening for your benefit, I served in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives. I never saw so many Bible verses written anywhere that I did on the walls of the Pennsylvania capital, the Bible verses are everywhere, and the ceiling of the Pennsylvania House is the verse. And ye shall know the truth from the New Testament and the truth shall make you free. Then in our Senate there are many verses from the Old Testament on the front wall so that every Senator can look at ’em. And on the back wall there are pictures and verses from the New Testament. So clearly even in reference to creation to future judgment for the future kingdom coming a millennial kingdom that’s all in the front wall to the back wall literally gives the plan of salvation. Ryan, you be interest to know this, but I’ve often told people I like to take ’em on tours.

I could take them on a tour of the Capitol and I could lead them to Jesus from the Senate because the plan of salvation was that clear. So yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is not something that is weird, that is odd. That has never been done before. No, it used to be and people used to take it seriously. Back to you, Ryan. Here’s a question in this regard. This partnership that you’ve been able to establish with Lee Greenwood, in your first paragraph, you emphasize it’s a donation. Is your idea to be able to put Bibles in the classroom completely with private funds or do you envision tax dollars being used?

Ryan Walters:

Well, I’ll say we’ve already used taxpayer taxpayer dollars on this. We bought 500 Bibles and for all of our government classes around the state, how do you teach government without the Bible, the Constitution, declaration of Independence? You have to understand American government. So we did use some funds to do that, to make sure that we’ve got the ball started, that especially when you take a government class, you understand the foundational documents. So that was one of the steps that we took to make sure that our kids had access to these documents. And then step number two is, yeah, when a friend like Lee Greenwood calls you and says, Hey, think I can help you out, and I think we can do this in a way that we can get donations, we’re hearing from people all over the country that want to help. We said, Hey, that’d be great. So that was one of the things that again, I think is absolutely essential that we get the Bible back in every classroom. We are going to continue to look at every possibility and pathway to do that. And so Lee Greenwood, again, incredible patriot there with Oklahoma, with bibles for oklahoma.com, is able to give us this opportunity to do it this way. And so we greatly appreciate that partnership

Sam Rohrer:

And that’s wonderful. We’ve got about a minute left here. What can our listeners do? Obviously people are listening all over the country and a lot of this perhaps is new for them. So yes, certainly we can pray, but is there something specific that our listeners can do in this regard?

Ryan Walters:

Yes, sir. If they go to bibles for oklahoma.com, every Bible purchased there through Lee Greenwood goes directly to our schools. So again, you’re putting a Bible in every classroom in the state by going to that website, Bibles for oklahoma.com. And so again, we greatly appreciate their efforts to help us here. And again, we’re the first state, but to be clear, we think this should happen in every state in the country. So we’re going to be out in front on this. It’ll be the first state to do it here in Oklahoma. But what you’re doing is help provide the supports to make sure Bibles are back in the classrooms. And this is just getting started with where this movement should go.

Sam Rohrer:

The superintendent Ryan Walters, we’re at the end of this program. Thank you so very, very much for being with us today. Thank you for responding to the calling that God put on your heart to initiate this. Certainly when we lift up the word of God, the Lord responds, and boy do we need his response in our country today. So may the Lord bless you and may Oklahoma continue to lead in this regard and set a good pattern for the rest of the country. God bless you, and we’ll get you back on sometime for an update. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for being with us so far on this program. Stay with us when we come back. Constitutional attorney, David New and I are going to now to reflect back. We talked about the present, some good things happening. We’re going to look back a little bit historically, some history here in regard to the role of Bibles in the schools.

And then we’ll go from there into what can happen. Today’s eight, well, we’re right smack in the middle of our program right now. If you perhaps are just joining us, we were just privileged to have the Superintendent of Public Instruction. That’s a title that many states don’t have, but it’s not the same thing as the Secretary of Education in that state. It has actually more authority, greater ability to actually make changes in the school. But as such, Ryan Walters, the superintendent of schools there of public instruction, has embarked upon a program to put the Bible back into every public school room to have it prominently displayed along with the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. That’s an historical approach without a doubt, but to have it there in the room and to also include it as a part of instruction for every child. And I don’t know how that’s going to be done, but clearly it is linked without a doubt.

We know to understanding the Bill of Rights, to understanding the Constitution, to understanding every aspect of our form of government as a republic and all. So that being the case, he was with us and we’re going to shift Now as that is going forward, I want you to be aware that that is taking place. A lot of you listening probably were not even aware that that effort is underway so actively in Oklahoma. But David, that was very interesting to hear, Ryan, I was glad he was able to be on our program, but I thought what we could do now is that his, what he’s doing represents perhaps the most significant actual effort of doing what we’ve talked about for a long time. Our students must have need to have and understanding of God’s word or they can never understand our frame of government, liberty and freedom and all the things we talk about.

So that being the case, let’s look back now, put on your historian, your American history cap a little bit, put it that way. Let’s look back a little bit and pull out some highlights from your knowledge of how the Bible actually played a very specific role in our early American culture. I mean, it could be cultural or religious, political, governmental, educational we’re talking about today. So here’s my question, just go where you want, what role, what examples can you provide of how the Bible, God’s word, Bible reading, Bible reference actually directly impacted the foundation of our culture and early government in America?

David New:

Absolutely. And I must say that superintendent Ryan Walters, I found him to be an extremely impressive individual. I liked what he had to say. Very articulate as you said, Sam, he just really is the right man to go forward with this effort. And ladies and gentlemen, those of you in Oklahoma, please support him. Let your legislatures know. Let your governor know. Let the Secretary of State know how you feel that you like what he’s doing in terms of religion in the public schools, basically religion in the public schools go way back long before the United States ever existed. And then once the United States came into existence legally with the election of George Washington, religion continued right on and there were no changes whatsoever. And the reason is simple in a way, having the Bible and prayer in a public school is basically an extension of a civics lesson.

That’s basically what it is. They’re acting out civics, American civics because this country, without God, there is no America. Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence combined and united heaven and Earth together, when he said the Creator gave us our rights, he is combining literally heaven and earth in that document. And that means to be an American in the fullest sense of the word means belief in God. And one of the great quotes was by President Eisenhower when he appeared on a program called Back to God, a program sponsored by the American Legion. And here’s what he said. Without God, there could be no American form of government nor an American wave. Life recognition of the supreme being is the first, the most basic expression of Americanism, thus the founding father sought. And thus with God’s help, it will continue to be well, David, if you associate America with believing God that much, what about an atheist?

Well, of course an atheist has a rights not to believe in God if that person chooses to do so. But the moment that person chooses to do that, you’re missing out on the very best that America has to offer JFK in his national day of Prayer proclamation dated October 11th, 1962. This is, look what he’s saying. Whereas faith in Almighty God was a dominant power in the lives of our founding fathers, whereas they expressed this faith in prayer. I mean, this is a Democrat saying this in 1962. He’s not challenging the role of religion and the belief of God in the American way of life. So I don’t think there’s any question that religion in the public schools is very normal and very natural. It’s to be expected.

Sam Rohrer:

It’s to be expected. And David, I’m looking through some, well, I’m kind of going back and looking at the very basics of things that we talk about. We’ve used the words education, government, culture, law, justice, parents rights, all of these things that we throw around, we’ve already talked about. It’s talked about all the time our founders understood. And as we talk about so much, you do not have that there is no understanding of government, which means authority, education, parents, individual, the entire concept of how all of that fits together societally only comes from the Bible because it’s basically God’s idea. And that is what, when we talk about Judeo Christian worldview, framing what we have, that’s what we’re talking about. Just take this as an example. In our nation, we have what we’ve talked about, a Judeo-Christian worldview that influenced the shape of what we have. Describe for me a nation or a country that is framed based on, for instance, atheism or some other religion. Compare contrast just briefly,

David New:

The largest, most populous country in the world, red China is legally an atheist nation. And it also has the distinction as one public commentator, I heard say one time to be the largest jail in the world. So if you want to see the difference between a nation that honors God, you would look to red China, you would look to the former Soviet Union, you would look to the Eastern Communist block. You could see how they behave and what their values are. Our nation is based upon a creator who gives human rights. The most dangerous thing about the secular ideology is they do not know where human rights come from. This is a subject they do not discuss because they believe that we exist as a matter of accident, which means whatever rights you’ve got, they only have the authority of an accident according to the secularist.

Sam Rohrer:

That is a very simple but foundational point to make David, because purpose why we are here, where we want to go is all based on our worldview. And from an atheist worldview, a secular worldview you’re talking about, it’s so totally different than here in this nation that which arises from the pages of scripture, the Bible, which is what we’re talking about right now. But those who don’t agree with the Bible fundamentally are not going to agree with any kind of effort that we’re talking about today of putting the Bible back in schools, are they?

David New:

No, but just remember this, A secular state basically tries to take the place of God. What secular states like China, North Korea and the former Soviet Union want is they want the citizens to give all the allegiance and devotion and dedication that would’ve gone to God. They wanted to give to the state. The state replaces God in a secular nation and that is what is happening in the United States of America.

Sam Rohrer:

And David, what you just did there, it brings us up to this break, is that ladies and gentlemen, when we talk about biblical worldview or worldview, that’s what we’re talking about here. Why the Bible? Well, if we follow the Bible, we will have a biblical worldview. And if we do, it flavors everything about how we interpret what is right and wrong and our view of God and the value of life and God’s definition of human sexuality and gender and all of the things come right off of that. You believe in atheism, communism, Islam, different worldview, an entirely different view, an entirely different outworking. So it’s just the way it is. Now when we come back, we’re going to talk a little bit about the challenges perhaps to putting Bibles back in as we go into our final segment. Now, David, let’s look at this. There are challenges.

You ask the question of Superintendent Ryan Walters in the second segment of whether or not he envisioned the current makeup of the US Supreme Court ruling in favor of what they are now doing in Oklahoma. And that is actually requiring the consideration and instruction, the linking of the Bible in addition to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are founding documents. And he answered, he thought that it would, but you went there because the enemies of anything related to God of the Bible or anything that would be of that nature, they’re opposed to it and they’re already opposing. So that’s going to go to the court. So very logical, you ask him that question. But here, let me ask you this. One of the challenges I know that will come up will be often the ones filing these suits will probably bring it up the A CLU types and others, Southern Poverty Law Center people, and those will say, but if that Bible is in that classroom and if there is a thread in the state standards, which the superintendent said was there now in Oklahoma that there will be perhaps atheist students or students sitting in that classroom who say, well, I am offended by that.

Any reference to the Bible, we know that’ll happen. Do you have a response to that?

David New:

Yes, I do. Sam, people who object to the Bible in the public schools and prayer in the public schools argue that you will be offending students if this type of material and activity goes on. Let me just say it very simply. These people are hypocrites. They could care less about offending students because of the Bible or school prayer. They could care less as there are a thousand things that go on in a public school that offend students, all kinds of things. For example, some students do not like seeing the American flag in their classroom because they feel it’s a symbol of racism and militarism. Some students do not like to say the Pledge of allegiance. Even if you take the word God out of the Pledge of allegiance, they are offended to be asked to say the Pledge of allegiance. There are all kinds of things that go on in a public school that upset some students.

One of the purposes of a public education is for students to deal with people who think differently than they do, where institutions like a public school do things that they don’t like and accept it. If we don’t, you’re going to have chaos. Now listen, in the state of California, the month of May is gay pride month. Oh really? Now supposing there’s a student in the public schools of California who believes that homosexuality is a sin, a very grievous sin, an abomination. Do they care about that student’s feelings? Do they care about the psychological pressure on that student who will be given pressure to participate in gay pride month? Do they worry about that student? No, they don’t. They only wish to discriminate against minor or simple religious activity like a short prayer or reading from the Bible. That’s all They are. Complete and total hypocrites, all of these people. If you can tolerate an LGBT agenda in your public schools, you should have no problem objecting to the Bible in the public schools. Okay,

Sam Rohrer:

You brought up a very practical answer. And David, can I go just a little bit further? And as I’m listening to you and thinking about this, that ladies and gentlemen, let me ask you a question. We talk about we have a lot going on in our country right now, fortify the borders, right? Fortify the borders, boundaries the President has by executive order made English our official language. Now you’re looking at it and you say, well, that sounds good, but why is that? Can I suggest that the only way a nation is a nation is because it has three criteria. One, a common border. So that’s why you have to have borders. Otherwise you don’t have a nation. Secondly, a common language. A language binds a people’s together. All nations have a common language. Ours used to be English. It was thrown out. Now that’s back, but that’s a reason.

The third one though is a common view of God religion. So as an Islamic nation, they’re Islamic, communist nation, they’re atheist. So what are we? That’s a problem. America, according to the leftists or whatever you want it to be. Well, you can’t have a nation. So when you have the Bible, a Judeo-Christian worldview, that is the element, one of the three elements that binds you together as a nation. Yes, there will be some who will be offended, but then fine, let them move to Islam, a nation or China if they can get in. So David, I put that out there as a supporting element of what you’re saying. Worldviews, like we say, often it’s not a matter of if. It’s a matter of what one. So in your estimation, as I’m looking at it, is the Bible not just an element of putting together a common worldview, which is essential for a nation to be a nation.

David New:

The Bible, you can build an entire civilization on the Bible. You can build a civilization on the Bible. It is the most powerful book in the world. There’s not even a close second, maybe somewhere around 10 or 15. The Communist manifesto might be on the list just by the sheer number of people who are stupid enough to believe that stuff. The Bible is it. That’s the crown jewel you’ve got that you’ve got America. So we need to get behind Superintendent Ryan Walters, ladies and gentlemen from Oklahoma, let your elected officials know how you’re going to vote at the next election depending on what they do for this man.

Sam Rohrer:

And David, we got one minute left. We often run out of time. I don’t like it when we do that, but I’m going to ask you to pray and close this program in prayer. There’s plenty of things we brought up for which we can pray and must pray, but something of this type will never happen unless the Lord makes it possible. Would you close in prayer, please?

David New:

Dear Father, in the name of Jesus, we approach thy throne of grace. We are so grateful for the work that Ryan Walters is doing for the state of Oklahoma, for the kind of leadership for other schools throughout America. Father, we also thank thee for this ministry stand in the gap for Sam Rohr and the pastor Gary Do, and everybody that works on this ministry team who backed good teachings, honorable teachings from the Bible. Father, forgive us of our sins. Please forgive us of our sins and shortcomings. We ask that you, dear Father, bless America, bless President Trump, and we pray and thank thee in the name of Jesus Christ for these things.

Sam Rohrer:

Amen and amen. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us today. Hopefully this was both informative, edifying, and encouraging and can help us all to direct our prayers, our efforts, our awareness. And may those of us who hold to a biblical worldview in the Bible actually hold it more strongly and live it out. That’s the very, very, very best way. See you back here tomorrow. Now the Lord.