America’s Fatally Faltering Relationship with God

America’s Fatally Faltering Relationship with God

March 21, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Co-host: Matt Recker

Guest: George Barna

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 3/21/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Friday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s our monthly emphasis on culture and values with Dr. George Barna, founder of the original Barna Group, and now director of the Cultural Research Center at Arizona Christian University. And as we do on these monthly programs, we share the latest and the most accurate. I’m going to say I use my terms the most accurate research measuring the condition and the attitudes of American culture and the American church as conducted and analyzed by again, I’m saying I think most would agree, America’s most recognized researcher possessing a true biblical worldview, and that’s an important thing today. Pastor Matt Recker, pastor of Heritage Baptist Church located in Manhattan, New York City is joining me again in the co-host role. The title I’ve chosen to frame today’s conversation with George Barna is America’s fatally Faltering Relationship with God, America’s fatally faltering Relationship with God to Sobering title. The discussion is one you don’t want to miss. With that, Dr. George Barna. George, thanks for being back with us today.

George Barna:

Oh, great to be back with you, Sam. Thanks,

Sam Rohrer:

George. When we were together about a month ago, we discussed the 12 trends based on your 30 years of research which predict what American culture and the American church will look like in 2025 and beyond without some sort of major fundamental heart and soul change toward God. That’s pretty much what we talked about in that program. Your latest two reports which are available ladies and gentlemen@culturalresearchcenter.com, entitled American Worldview Inventory 2025. You have a report one and a report two there, but they build out the projection I think I sense in the January 12 trends report and provide sobering data which we want to have you describe today. So here, let’s go first in report number one, you’ve entitled it this way. Most Americans believe in a supreme being but not the God of the Bible report. Number two, you entitled Americans minimize the role of God in their life. Both are similar, but they’re different. First question, can I ask you in this first segment, define and describe the what or the bottom line takeaway of these two reports and how they kind of build one on top of the other?

George Barna:

Well sure, the whole idea here, Sam, is to look at the data related to people’s views about God and understand that essentially what’s happened is that Americans have divorced God. I mean, when you look at a passage of scripture, let’s say like Romans 12, two, and that says, don’t imitate the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. If we’re going to do that, if we’re going to take that to heart, we’ve got to confirm God’s existence. We’ve got to acknowledge his authority and his sovereignty and essentially invite him to have his way with us. But instead, what we’re seeing coming out of the research is that Americans are essentially saying, nah, we know better. We have a better way. And so what we’ve taken to doing is redefining God’s role, thinking of him as an emergency rescuer, thinking of him as someone who will provide us with safety and comfort, but we’re not willing to let him be in charge. We don’t believe he should be in charge. Growing numbers of Americans, don’t believe there even is a God who could be in charge. And of course, the importance of all this is that you got to remember choices have consequences. And so when you deny, let’s say that the supremacy and the power of God, there are going to be tragically debilitating practical outcomes. We’re not going to like it, but it’s unavoidable when we make those choices.

Matt Recker:

Yeah, and George, you speak about a profound shift taking place in America in these reports. It really brings it out and you report that only 16% of adults are stating that God is the most important element in their lives and that just 40% believe the God of the Bible exists and influences human lives. So this decline represents really a staggering erosion of biblical faith in our nation and it’s reshaping our country’s moral and social and spiritual landscape. So my question really is, is this George, is this statement of concern something new and surprising, or is it just further evidence of what you saw in the 12 trends that you highlighted been highlighting over several decades?

George Barna:

Madam, I mean, basically what this is doing is it’s taking the first of the trends that were in that prior report talking about what we’re doing with God, and it’s digging deeper to try to understand that essentially what Americans are doing is reshaping God in their own image. We have changed so dramatically over the last 30 years. If we go back to 1995, we have 93% who believe that there is a God or a supreme being or a divine authority that exists 93% in 1995. Now we’re down to 71%. Back in 1995, we said that we believe that the God of the Bible existed and influenced lives at a 73% incident. Today, it’s only a minority of Americans who believe that the God in the Bible exists and influences lives. It’s dropped from that 73% down to just the 40%. And so what we’re doing is we’re reshaping God to be to our liking, trying to make him more accepting, less demanding, different, more relaxed kind of standards.

Standards that you won’t necessarily find in the Bible, but standards that we find satisfying and comforting. And so what we’ve got is a situation where America is accelerating, its defiance of the existence, the power, the role, the majesty of God, the fastest growing faith group in America today are what I call the don’ts, people who don’t know if God exists, people who don’t believe that God exists or people who don’t care if God exists. And so that is looking like the future faith place of America. It’s frightening. And for those of us who know that God exists, who have invited him into the center of our lives and said, use me, I’m here for you. You created me. Who am I to tell you what to do with me? You do what you will and I’ll be pleased to take on that role. Well, we’ve got fewer and fewer Americans who are embracing that perspective.

Sam Rohrer:

And George sobering indeed it is. Ladies and gentlemen, if you’re just joining us today, Dr. George Barna is with Pastor Matt Recker and I today, and our theme is this America’s fatally faltering relationship with God. That’s research. We’re talking about what Dr. George Barna and the folks at Arizona Christian University and working on been put together working on for 30 years. It’s significant. It is astounding. And we come back in the next segment, we’re going to talk a little bit more about from a human perspective of how we can describe how this is happening. Third segment, we’re going to talk about the consequences of minimalizing. God, it’s incredible. Then the fourth thing, we’ll talk about the only solution possible, George and report number one, and we’re trying to work these two together, one and two, and that’s why I asked you the question and kind of combine them at the last segment.

But in the first report, I went there first because I think it lays a foundation that helped to explain the seriousness of this entire emphasis. But there you said this quote, most Americans believe in a supreme power but not the God of the Bible. That was the title that you gave it. But there you highlight and describe a worldview that we’ve talked about here many times. I don’t know that you are the one who came up with this term, but you may have, but it certainly describes it. But you said this quote, the worldview known as syncretism, that is the blending of elements from multiple worldview into a customized individual philosophy of life has dominated the worldview landscape of the United States for several decades. I mean at least 30 years, several. It’s 92% incidents among American adults dwarfs. Now get this, ladies and gentlemen, this 92% incidence among American adults. This thing of syncretism, this worldview dwarfs the runner up worldview biblical theism George put in parentheses or the biblical worldview. So it dwarfs that which claims only a 4% share of the nation’s worldview pie, 92% syncretism, 4% biblical theism or biblical worldview. Okay. Now, could you for the sake of our listeners who may not know, recognize this term, or if they did explain it again, define syncretism and illustrate this syncretism worldview for us?

George Barna:

Sure. Syncretism is basically a customized philosophy of life. It’s where you cut and paste worldview or life philosophy, concepts from a variety of different worldviews. And what you wind up doing is adopting those beliefs and blending them together into a perspective on life that your beliefs and behaviors that become uniquely yours. Now, in doing the research, what we’ve found is that the average American draws from seven or more different worldviews to come up with their own worldview. So they’ll draw from things like secular humanism, postmodernism, eastern mysticism, nihilism. There are a whole bunch of different ones, more than two dozen that you could choose from. And usually Americans will include pieces of biblical theism, more a biblical world of view. So people say, yeah, well, I don’t understand. What does it look like? Well, let’s take something that everybody is familiar with. Let’s take marriage.

Now, most Americans believe that marriage is an acceptable lifestyle choice. Most of them today would say that within that body of choices for marriage, you could have a male and a female marry each other, that’s acceptable. Or a male marry another male that’s acceptable, or a female marry another female that’s acceptable. And they would go on and say that keep in mind that the highest goal in life is feeling happy and therefore the purpose of marriage is to produce greater happiness in your life. And that in turn means that if you do get married and that marriage turns out to be difficult, well then divorce is perfectly acceptable because the goal is to be happy. And if marriage is standing in the way of that, then you need to dissolve the marriage at the same time. Most Americans would also say having children is acceptable, but that there’s no inherent value to having children.

It’s just another choice that you make. And most Americans would say that it’s okay to have an open marriage. If both partners agree that what others might call adultery is acceptable to them, then that’s a perfectly agreeable option and therefore the form and function of marriage is always determined by its participants. Now, that’s a profile of what most Americans believe, but I don’t know if you realize it, but we’ve just touched on points of view coming from more than seven different worldviews. And so when we talk about syncretism, we just embraced ideas about marriage that came from secular humanism, postmodernism, moralistic, therapeutic deism, biblical theism, Marxism, Eastern mysticism, and a few more. So that’s an example of how syncretism works. People don’t tend to sit there and perseverate or obsess on what their thoughts are. Their beliefs are about marriage. They have them, they embrace them, they carry them out.

We don’t reflect on them very often, but they’re coming from all these different ideas. And it goes back to a few core notions of what makes my life viable in this case. It really kind of all revolves back to the idea that the highest goal of life is to be happy. Of course, that’s not biblical. The highest course of life, the highest approach to life would be to know, love and serve God with all your heart, mind, strength and soul. That’s your reason for living. And the only way that you’re successful in life is not because you’ve achieved happiness, but it’s because you’re consistently obedient to that God. And so this is where as followers of Christ, we’ve got to be willing to sit down and examine our lives and get them on that biblical track every chance we have. And so that’s why it’s important that we go back and look at things, simple things like do you believe that the God of the Bible exists and that he influences lives and how is he influencing your life? These are the kinds of things that we’re looking at in our research and why it’s so important for me and you and all of your listeners to be taking time to sit down and reflect on these very basic foundational elements of who we are, why we exist, and what it means to be successful in life.

Matt Recker:

Yeah. George, thank you so much. That is a tremendous answer. Well, I live in the land of the don’ts in New York City. I think so I like what you said before, I’ve heard of the nuns, but it’s the first time really I’ve heard of the don’ts where you talk about people who don’t know, don’t believe, and don’t care. And truly syncretism is a huge problem in our culture. It’s almost like Israel of the Old Testament where they combine Baal worship and other worship of the cultures around them with their faith in God. It’s exactly what’s going on in America. But George, to what degree has this worldview associated with syncretism then contributed to the findings that you found in report number two, that you entitle Americans minimize the role of God in their lives and how has that happened?

George Barna:

So much of this, Matt, goes back to again, foundational moral and spiritual beliefs. And so what happens is when you don’t believe in God, well, truth has to come from someplace, and the reality is that truth, we can only know because it’s a reflection of the character of God, and he was good enough to delineate the attributes of truth for us in his word, the Bible, so that we could understand it, we could grasp it, we could follow it, we could embody it trying to be like him. I mean, that’s what it means to be a disciple is to imitate the master, and Jesus is the master God, the Father and the master. That’s who we want to imitate. And so knowing that he is a God of truth and that his character is defined by it, we look at what we’re finding in this report and when people reject God, while they’re not only rejecting God, they’re rejecting what he stands for, what he embodies, what he models for us.

And so that would include truth. It would include our purpose of life, knowing him, loving him, serving him if he doesn’t exist or if we don’t believe that he’s important or that he’s supposed to be central to our lives. That changes everything about how we’re going to live. And what it essentially does is it fosters us being manipulators and people who use the things of God for our own glory, for our own benefit. Basically what it does is it unleashes us to say that we’re in charge. We control our own destiny. God’s welcome to participate in it if he wants. In fact, there are probably going to be times when we’re in trouble. We have a crisis and we invite God in, but really it comes down to us. We’re at the center of it all.

Sam Rohrer:

And George that leads you to this, we won’t have time to comment on it in this segment, we’ll carry it over. But in the report summary, you say these findings, what you’re talking about, paint a sobering picture of a nation that no longer places God at the center of its life and culture. You want to say, Americans are not just questioning God’s existence, they are actively pushing him to the margins of their lives, even in churches where he is meant to be at the center. And that’s what you said. And with that, George, we’re at a break, but you mentioned it before. We’re going to talk about ladies and gentlemen, the next segment choices have been made by many people are probably all of us included, right? For a long time, those choices result in these findings. American questioning God’s existence, actively pushing him to the fringes, to the margins of our lives.

There are consequences to that. There are consequences. Are we not seeing a lot of consequences when we come back? We’re going to go further into exactly what that means, the consequences, and George explained what some of those are may yet be, but they’re serious. This is sobering information. Be back with us in just a minute. If you’re just tuning in again, you’re joining in with Dr. George Barna and myself and co-host today, pastor Matt Recker. He’s pastor of Heritage Baptist Church in Manhattan, New York City, George’s website cultural research center.com. That is where you can find the basis, the heart of the two reports upon which we are talking about here today. You can find it at that site. And so I’d encourage you to go there and I think you probably sign up to get these things notified and sent to you, and it would be very, very helpful to do.

Sometimes the reading of reports can be difficult if you don’t know how to do that, but that’s kind of why we try to walk through in this program. And so thankful that George, you’ve been joining us really most every month that you can for many, many years now, and we just so appreciate you and pray for God’s continued hand upon you. But as we move into this discussion today, the idea that America is moving away from God, you’ve been measuring it for 30 years, faltering relationship with God, I put in into my title fatally faltering relationship because the ultimate end of moving away from God is fatal. But throughout the entirety of scripture and even the casual observance of human action, human civilization is the eternal principle, and we’ve referenced it now a couple of times. Choices and consequences. Choices do have consequences. You do reap what you sow.

It’s another way of saying the same thing or this as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he the disturbing observance that I’ve made and others as well as that without a fear of God in a submission to his soul authority, God as final authority before whom we’ll all give accountability. The failure to do that, people end up having an amazing propensity to agree with the overall observation that yes, choices have consequences, but they come to the conclusion that somehow that principle just won’t apply to them. Somehow they’re immune, but choices do have consequences and there are no respecter of persons. Now, George, in report number two summary in your executive summary, you gave a number of warnings. I’d like to read one of them right now and then Matt will ask you about the second one. The first one is this. It says there in the summary, Barna warns, you warned that as a belief in the biblical, God continues to deteriorate, moral relativism and spiritual confusion will only deepen. Now, would you expand upon this warning, George, and the consequences that that will be increasingly evident within individuals and families and the church, and then we’ll save the nation to the next question, but individuals, families in the church, how and what will we see as consequences of this forward movement?

George Barna:

Well, let’s go back and make sure that we’re all on the same page here. When we talk about moral relativism and spiritual confusion, we have to understand that that goes back to our comprehension of what truth is and where it comes from and what difference it makes. All the choices that we make are based on our perceptions of what truth is, what righteousness is, what is righteous or right to do. That’s what morality is in a given situation. And ultimately truth, as we mentioned in the prior segment is based on God. It’s delineated for us in the words of the Bible, the Bible literally says God is truth. He embodies it in his character. He proclaims truth. He gives us parameters for our life. That’s part of truth. And so when we reject the existence and or the authority of God, what we are in turn doing is rejecting truth.

And in turn, what that means is we must also reject the Bible that we can no longer claim that it’s relevant to our lives, that it’s reliable in its teachings, that it’s practical for our daily living. And so people have to replace those sources of truth with another source of truth. You can’t live with that vacuum in your life. There has to be something that determines truth for you. And what we’re finding Americans are doing once they’ve rejected God and therefore they reject his word and they reject his principles, they’re resorting to what they consider to be their most trusted authority, which is themselves. But then how do we as individuals who have no God, who have no external source of authority or truth or relevance or reliability, what do we base our truth on? Well, it has to come back to feelings. Now the problem with that is that everybody’s feelings are subjective and they’re unique and they’re circumstantial and they’re fallible and they’re always changing.

So what that means is that truth is no longer reliable or consistent. It’s not trustworthy. And so the ultimate result, as we’re grappling with this mess that we’ve made by rejecting God and everything that he stands for, everything that he provides for us, it can only result in chaos and uncertainty. People feel like life is an emotional rollercoaster. Well, no kidding you threw out anything that could have served as a standard of reality that’s based in truth and based on what God has given to us. And so we look at a nation, let’s say, that has no unity. How could we have unity? It’s my feelings against your feelings. And by the way, my feelings will be different by the end of the day than they are right now, and so will yours. And so even if we come to some kind of understanding right now, we probably won’t have that same understanding by the end of the day. And so trying to gain fulfillment without God at the center of our lives is a fool’s errand. We can’t do it. And yet that’s what we as a country have determined is the best way for us to live.

Matt Recker:

Yeah, thank you George, and thank you so much for these reports that you do put together, and we do encourage the listeners to go onto your website@culturalresearchcenter.com and download and really study these reports. I’ve found them very challenging and somewhat alarming, but yet we need to understand what’s going on in our culture and we’re talking about the consequences of minimalizing God in our own lives. It’s huge. And I love one of the emphasis you made here is that two thirds of us who say we believe in God, don’t believe He gives us the power to serve him. That was very challenging to me. But getting back to the point as well of the consequences of minimalizing God nationally, what are the consequences in your observations, George, in how when God is minimalized, how does that affect the entire nation? And so what are some of the trends that you’ve seen as well in how this has affected and changed America?

George Barna:

Matt, basically what you’re asking me is what difference does it make that you not have a biblical worldview, but I mean just giving up on the idea of God. Well, as we alluded to in the prior segment, one of the things that’s going to happen is that we’re essentially moving toward the dissolution of the traditional family, and what we’re looking at is the evolution of revolving serial sexual relations and saying that that’s morally okay. There is no problem with that. And then it goes on from there. You could look at the mental health of Americans. What happens when there’s no God that you can rely upon, that you can trust that you understand what he desires and what the consequences are of choosing to reject his ways and his principles? Well, that’s when you have a dramatic rise like we’re seeing in America today of things like anxiety and depression and rage and fear and suicide and divorce and violence and bankruptcy and loneliness.

I mean, really, Matt, if you dive into those, and that’s what we do here at the Cultural Center, try to figure out what’s going on. Why are all these things happening? Why is America such a mess? How do we get here? How do we turn it around? When you dive into all these and you trace them backwards to how we got to where we are, it’s all spiritual. It’s not social, it’s not personal, it’s not economic. I mean it really all comes back to spirituality. Why? Because it’s our spiritual nature that determines what we believe to be true and right and appropriate, meaningful and so forth. And so when we look at that, our rejection of God is like the starting point for that downfall. When you reject your own creator and you say, no, no, no, I’m going to take over. I know better than he who is all knowing, all powerful, all loving, all compassionate, I know better.

I’m going to do it my way. What a mess we create. And so what are we moving to as a country? We’re moving towards civil war. What else could there be? Because we pit ourselves against everybody else. When there’s not a God of love and compassion and meaning and mercy who intercedes between us, we can’t possibly have any moral ground when we make ourselves the authority of the universe, other people aren’t going to give into us. They have that same mentality. And then so this inflated self righteousness is destroying America. Don’t be full of the election of Donald Trump, may temporarily provide relief in some political and social problems, but it’s not going to solve our problems related to worldview, to morality, to character or personal spiritual development.

Sam Rohrer:

George, ladies and gentlemen, you understand that, don’t you? I hope you do. We got a spiritual issue. We come back, we’re going to talk about really the only solution. Well, as we go into our final segment today, we’re going to look at some solution, but the information presented embodied within our title, America’s Fatally Faltering Relationship with God and special Guest, Dr. George Barna has made very, very clear that no matter how you come at the research as he has done for over 30 years, there is no other conclusion than that as a nation as typified in some of the information we’ve shared. 2% of all Americans really are a part of a religion, a world view called syncretism, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and I’ve moved and for a long time, have we not been there. Well, if it feels good, do it.

As long as I feel okay about it, that’s all right. Follow your heart, right. We’ve weren’t heard it all. We’ve heard it all. Consequences though are devastating and they have been not just for this country, but for any nation and the history of the world. Now, the goal has not just been to present information for the sake of making it information. This is not sensational. This is sobering, and I hope you understand. It’s sobering. We hear so much information, ladies and gentlemen, that sometimes it’s like, what do we do? Whether you just turn it off. We can’t afford to turn this off. So today’s program has highlighted an undeniable move away from God by America, and even those who self-identify as Christians and even born again or evangelical Christians. Our situation is grave. There’s no other way to describe it. When God looks at us, it’s grave.

When viewing our condition through a biblical worldview, the justice of God is unchanging. His conditional promise to our nation or any nation who seeks the blessing of God is simple. What did God say? That’s what he told Israel. It’s what our founders identified with and did at that point in time. In our nation’s history, it exists. Fear of God and keep his commandments enact justice in the land. Romans 13, the purpose of government for swear idolatry, the shedding of innocent blood, bribery and corruption, those are all requirements. Seek the Lord, humble ourselves before him. Those are things that are very clear. If we do, God is bound by his promise to bless, to provide security and more, which is exactly what he says in many places in scripture. But God also promises this Deuteronomy 28, the first half of that chapter, very clear what the blessings are.

It’s everything that we’ve had in the past. But he also says if he turned from him and refused to seek God’s face, violate his commands, that God’s judgment would turn swiftly and so completely that no man cannot outrun it. That’s what it talks about there in Deuteronomy 2015 and beyond. Yet, it seems that as Americans and self-identified Christians, that we are convinced that well, God doesn’t really mean what he says, and that for some reason as the individual choices have consequences for the other guy, but not for me that for some reason we think that what God said for other nations doesn’t apply to ours. Wow. George, from your observation is the failure of the church in America, even the self-identifying Christians as individuals or politicians who say they’re Christians or church leaders, yet I don’t see much of a response. Is this failure to respond with any understanding of the seriousness of our situation? Is that a direct result of the fact that you say only 4% hold a biblical worldview, or is it something else?

George Barna:

Much of it has to do with that, Sam, because your worldview determines your priorities in life, and so it also determines your understanding of how life is going to work. So think about how life works. I mean things like internal peace, having meaning and purpose in your life, understanding what real success is, being able to experience true joy, having a positive impact in the life of others. Those things are a natural consequence of believing in and understanding the life principles that God gives to us and choosing to imitate Jesus Christ. If you choose to think and live like Christ, yeah, then you’ll be his disciple. But we don’t have many people who choose to and work at thinking and then living like Christ. That’s not a priority for very many Americans. When you look at only 4% having a biblical worldview, you have to wonder, why have we chosen other things?

Well, partly it is as you suggest, due to all of those people in leadership positions. Who are those people? Well, let’s talk first of all about parents, because they’re biblically the ones who are responsible for the spiritual formation of their children, and it’s before the age of 13 that people form their worldview, whether it’s going to be a biblical worldview or some other type of worldview. And then you can add to that, not only the family has this been a low priority. There’s very little faith commitment in most families, and what faith commitment there is tends not to be biblical or deep or intense. But then you can also look at other leaders, whether it’s church leaders, political leaders, cultural leaders. We desperately need those kinds of leaders who are going to move us in the direction of God’s ways. But I mean, we’re not even directing people inside churches to be disciples.

Now, we talk about discipleship all the time, but when you look at what that means, it usually means you ask sign people up for some more programs and teaching. It’s not about personal relationships where people are being coached and held accountable and that Christ lifestyle is being modeled for people to observe and imitate that’s not happening. And the measurement, we could look at churches themselves, what they’re measuring. Are they measuring worldview? No. Are they measuring true, genuine biblical discipleship? No. Well, you get what you measure. So we’re measuring other things. Apparently, biblical worldview doesn’t matter to America’s churches. We got to remember, Sam, and I know you know this, but it’s a spiritual battle. Every moment of every day, Satan is relentless. He just wants to destroy anyone who would even look toward God, and he’s doing an amazing job. We’ve got to fight back. We’ve got to recognize that this is a multifaceted challenge that’s all about spirituality, and we cannot afford to be any further deceived or distracted to think that life is anything else other than who are you going to follow? God or Satan.

Sam Rohrer:

And George, you summarized that really well. We’re about out of time. Matt, I’m going to go to you. We have some other questions we could ask, and I know you have some for George, but George, what you’re describing there comes down to the ultimate personal issue. Are we becoming more like Christ? That’s the discipleship part. That’s not been the focus. We know, ladies and gentlemen, there’s so many things that are around it is I can’t affect what happening in Washington, what’s happening in Washington. Has the whole world embroiled right now? I can’t affect that God’s plan is being worked out, but we do and we can be more like Christ. Matt, would you take and close us right now and close this program and pray for those who are listening that we would understand this truth and apply it?

Matt Recker:

Sure. Thank you so much, Sam, and thank you George again for being with us today and let’s pray. Yes, Lord God, we are in a great spiritual battle, but we thank you that the weapons that we have, they are not carnal, but they are mighty through you to the pulling down of strongholds. And Lord, we are living as we have heard in the midst of this synchronistic culture of people who are nuns. They have no church, and many have no faith or don’t, they don’t know, they don’t believe and don’t care. But we do care, Lord, and we have you. And our desire is to be conformed to your image and to live for your glory. So help us, we pray and fill us with your spirit to love you and live for you and live out a truly biblical worldview. Lord, turn us back to you. May we as a nation repent return and that you’ll have mercy upon us in Jesus name.