Church Hurt: Excuse for Not Engaging or A Reality to Reckon With?
March 25, 2025
Host: Dr. Jamie Mitchell
Guest: Mark Barnard, Prince Moon
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 3/25/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Jamie Mitchell:
Well, we are honored again that you’ve chosen to join us for another hour of Standing the Gap. I’m Jamie Mitchell, director of church culture, and today we want to focus on the church. There’s a new term or a concept that some in evangelical Christianity is using, and it is the term church hurt. It refers to the emotional, relational, spiritual, and sometimes even physical affliction that Christians will experience at the hand of leaders or fellow members. We know that we are all fallen and depraved people at any time. We can act sinfully towards anyone. Yet when we think about the body of Christ, we do not expect to be treated harshly, abusively, or immorally. And in some cases, this harmful behavior is a pattern that keeps repeating itself over and over. Even worse is that some church leaders use the Bible to justify their actions. The effects of church hurt is a stain on the name of Christ, a discrediting of the influence of the church, and a hesitancy by believers to trust others and engage in church life.
Sadly, after this program you may discover that you are part of a church that hurts or even that you are a source of hurt. To help us consider this topic, we have two church leaders who have helped those affected by church hurt. One, a returning guest and a new friend. Mark Bernard is the president of Blessing Point Ministries, which helps churches discover spiritual roadblocks and prepares them to watch God bring revival to their fellowship. He’s been with us in the past. Mark, I am so glad to have you back and if you would, would you do the honor of introducing our new guest to stand in the Gap?
Mark Barnard:
I’d be glad to. Jamie, when you asked me to be on today, I immediately thought of Prince Moon, who I’d met in the past. He’s out of Macon, Georgia. He deals with these kinds of issues on a regular basis. I had the privilege of being on his podcast, which is called Wounded Hearts, wounded Churches. Prince is a gentleman who’s been in ministry for 40 years or more. He’s a licensed counselor. He’s an author of a book called Each One Reach One, and he’s the founder of Antioch Youth Center counseling program in Macon, Georgia. So I’m happy to recommend him to your listeners,
Jamie Mitchell:
Welcome Prince to stand in the Gap,
Prince Moon:
My friend. Good to be here. We’re excited about this program and I’m just happy you invited me. Thank you so very much.
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, we’re thrilled to have both of you, prince. You heard my introduction. I know that there are some listeners who attend Good churches have a loving shepherd, and this idea of church hurt is foreign to them, but the fact is there are churches that afflict pain on God’s people. Is this really a problem?
Prince Moon:
Unfortunately it is. There’s a book by Mr. Davis called the Church. Can you imagine 40 million people stop attending Church? 10 million because of church hurt? That’s reality. Barna did a study that the pastors, many are sick and overweight and 40% are considering giving up the pastorate. So there’s issues on that side. And also there was an issue over beards and all types of things. So yeah, I mean there is a problem. Can you imagine 40 million people have stopped coming to church? Issues range from having soldiers or Starbucks. Coffee issues can range having a cemetery and issues do occur, but we’ve got to know what to do, when to do and how to go about it. But yeah, it’s a major problem today, unfortunately.
Jamie Mitchell:
Mark, I know that we could blame church hurt on sin or ignoring God’s word, but from your point of view, why is this happening more and more recently or has it always been there? We’ve just haven’t been talking about it.
Mark Barnard:
Well, I think biblically we can find some evidence that it’s been around for a while. I think even Jesus being set up and crucified by the religious authorities of his day. I mean that’s not the church as we know it, but it was the church as he knew it and he certainly was the victim of church hurt. And we kind of see hints of it maybe in the struggle over John Mark, between Barnabas and Paul and a couple ladies I think in the book of Philippians were having issues but it is becoming unfortunately more prominent in the church in North America. And I believe it’s because the Lord is trying to communicate to the church that something is very wrong here. This is not the way the church was intended to operate. We are in a spiritual battle and we accept casualties in time of war, but the kind of casualties we’re seeing are really the result of friendly fire. But I think the Lord is using that to get our attention to say there’s something seriously wrong in the body of Christ and you need to seek me about what’s going on.
Jamie Mitchell:
Prince, when we say the word church hurt, we know that there’s always been conflict in the body of Christ. We don’t get along with these things, but we’re talking about a hurt that devastates people’s lives. There is a difference of severity, isn’t there? When we talk about church hurt,
Prince Moon:
It is like Mark said, they come to church people and they expect love and kindness, which it should be there, but when it doesn’t happen, that’s devastating. The world treats cold and hard, but when they come to church, they want that love and respect and when they don’t get it, that is just a knockout punch. And our burden also is the children. When the parents are hurt in the church, they leave the church. Some issues are serious, I understand that, but they forget about their children. I’ve counseled a lot of children whose parents left the church and they end up bitter. They don’t know how to reckon with what happened. Many of them are unsaved, so they take the parents’ place of bitterness and it is a generational thing. I’m looking in Detroit, four generations have been affected by what happened in 1953. And so it’s a generational thing that is devastating on the parents but also the children’s children. So it’s a serious situation and again, they got to know what to do and how to go about that and to communicate what needs to be discussed. So important.
Jamie Mitchell:
Gentlemen, I’ve done a lot of reading and research in the past couple years on the exodus of young adults from evangelical Christianity and there’s all kinds of theories of why that is. But I keep coming back that they are growing up watching the relationships, watching how people treat each other in the church. And I think when they come to an age of adulthood and they have a choice, they say, enough enough. I’m out of here. And so this has tremendous bearing. Well, we’re just starting. I have a sense that we’re going to open a lot of eyes to bring sensitivity to this reality. When we return, we want to start examining the types of hurt and the ways leaders improperly act. Don’t go away. Stay with us here at Stand In the Gap today. Well thank you for staying with us. I believe today is going to make a difference in many churches and the lives of many believers. We’re looking at the issue of church hurt. Mark Barnard and Prince Moon are our guest Prince. I want to talk about the ways that churches hurt and specifically church leaders. I know that you counsel a lot of people coming out of abusive situations. It’s just hard to comprehend. Can you explain what kinds of abusive behaviors people encounter at the hands of leaders that rise to a level of causing such personal hardship?
Prince Moon:
Thanks for the question. A case study years ago that was a very prominent pastor and he was a bit dictatorial, dictatorial in his process, not willing to communicate, had a big effect. And of course accountability was lacking and those areas could really feed church hurt. The people feel neglected, they feel looked over and in fact, they had this person in mind. He hired a minister from the outside to come in and the guys that were there took offense to that and that was definitely seeds for division. The church split up three different ways. Their church of 600 people back then, three different churches and family split. In fact, my family was there, moved to California, hadn’t seen him in 40 years. And so when the minister does not communicate, does not, has a too strong demanding persona and is not humble or accountable, that can definitely lead to problems.
And also I want to add something that we already know when there’s a lack of love for the minister from the people, things occur if people would have more love, and I know it sounds a bit archaic, but love can really melt down some issues. And I close with this, the church I mentioned earlier in 1950s, that was part of my family in that split and it was devastating. We’re still hurting from 40 years ago really. So I began to get a deep dive. What happened, what occurred, what caused it? And had there been just a little bit more love, 90% of those issues could have been dissolved. A friend of mine was there as a child and she mentioned what happened Had those people been more in love with God, that would not have occurred. And again, the children that are affected for generations is so sad. But those are the main issues. Dictatorial demands, lack of hum and accountability.
Jamie Mitchell:
Mark, it seems that many times when you hear about church hurt in that situation, it’s the issue of authority that shows its ugly. Head leaders are called the lead. They’re exercise spiritual authority, but sometimes it goes overboard. What does it look like when authority goes off the rails and starts to be sinful or abusive? And are there any common signs that can help our listeners today?
Mark Barnard:
Well, I think Prince mentioned several of them in his commentary a moment ago, and I would just reiterate, these things start in the heart of the leadership. And when you see a church going from pastor led to Pastor ruled or you see deacons going from deacon led to deacon ruled or elders going from elder led to elder ruled, there’s a difference in spirit between those two approaches to leading a church. And it’s not long before those private attitudes that these men have gotten used to in their meetings and their sessions and their board meetings. They’ve gotten used to those kind of dispositions privately. Those will eventually come out publicly at a governing meeting, congregational meeting. And when they come out publicly, that’s when the wound and the congregation occurs. And once that congregation is wounded and it goes unhealed, they will be on high alert moving forward for similar broken.
Really it’s an issue of broken trust. They’re going to be on high alert for other issues of broken trust, which just exasperates the problem and creates dynamics that keep this whole kind of woundedness in effect. And as Prince mentioned, it has an incredible bearing on the young people, but what you hear is over time these poor churches are wondering, well, why don’t we have any young people? Why don’t we have any young people? And some of the reason is it has to do with they’re very clear-minded and they see, and this is not really how things are supposed to be, so there’s a real need for healing in these churches. Corporate healing, I love prince’s kind of pastoral warmth and concern for love. That does heal a lot, but a lot of these churches have such long histories of pain that the Lord is not really blessing their ministry. He doesn’t overlook those kind of offenses and they do often start on a leadership level and fortunately there’s a way to deal with these things, but they do often start there often with heart attitudes that are tolerated instead of being addressed.
Jamie Mitchell:
Prince, as we hear about this, as I listen to some of you, at the end of the day it seems like when there’s church hurt, it’s an overflow of something gone wrong in the heart and in the soul of the leader or the pastor or even a leadership team, and it manifests itself on things like control, maybe obsession with money, maybe nepotism. Is that what you see? Does it flow out of the leadership and then start to make its way into the congregation? A lot of times
Prince Moon:
Unfortunately it does. Dr. Dobson has a book out about 15 years ago and he says 38% of ministers have inappropriate behavior with church activities and the people. So yeah, and it has a way of filtering through the congregation some sense what’s going on, but some love him so much or friend him so strongly that they just can’t see the issues the way they are and when that trust is broken, like Mark said, major situation and so yeah, we are seeing that. And of course other denominations, a friend of mine in the Methodist church, I had him on the podcast talking about that split and they’re the Methodist global church now, unfortunately we talked about how that occurred and how that can just filter down through the people in the church from the top down so to speak. But yeah, it’s a major issue.
Jamie Mitchell:
We talk about church polity and church structure and we would think sometimes that that could be some guardrails around some of these problems, but even the perfect church polity can’t stop some of the pain that a church can experience and in some respects may not stop a pastor’s bad behavior.
Prince Moon:
Well, very, very true. I mean when the pastor was not accountable to the people out of love, when he does not communicate with the people again out of love, it can be devastating. There’s a pastor I know of, it’s been about five years ago now, and when that occurred, what you’re saying occurred, it was just devastating. I mean people were hitting the head against the walls. They were just out in the street. I mean it was just shocking with the Methodist issue. They were arguing and hollering. What’s so sad about this? When these things occur, people get bitter. That’s what scared me so much. They get bitter and angry and that’s so unlike God’s church. But like you said, as these things metastasize and get so far, like Mark said, only God can deal with that because they can’t be blessed with both types of behavior. He’s not going to do it. So we want to do all we can to pray and seek his help in restoring that trust, the ability to follow
Jamie Mitchell:
Our last minute. A lot of times the church, if there has been abuse or authority abuse by a pastor, they sometimes react and they try to start to change the way they govern or the way the polity is and a church can become abusive in response to that. Have you seen that in your ministry working with churches?
Mark Barnard:
Well, I’ll take that question because the church is a body and one part of the body cannot over function unless the rest of the body allows it to over function. So while we’re talking primarily about pastoral leadership, it is a whole body problem because if we’re going to say the pastor’s the problem, he can only over function if the rest of the body facilitates that in some way, and oftentimes I don’t want to be blasting pastors. A lot of times they’re the victims of church hurt. They walk into situations where there’s been a history of pain in the church. They don’t know that. They don’t realize that, and all of a sudden they find their initiatives resisted, they find their vision resisted and they find themselves and their families in a lot of pain and under a lot of stress because of unhealed Church hurt from the past.
Jamie Mitchell:
As you’re hearing this, sometimes church hurt is subtle and simply the twisting of something that’s good a part of the church life, but then something goes bad, a leader goes bad, a leadership team goes bad, maybe a church responds poorly to a pastor’s leadership. Church hurt comes in many shapes and sizes. Next up we’re going to talk about church discipline, but also another problem in the church today and that is showing favoritism. I know it’s hard to believe, but even the Apostle James spoke about the problem when we return here at Stand in the Gap, we are so blessed to have Pastor Prince Moon of Wounded Hearts and Wounded Churches and return guests. Mark Barnard of Blessing Point Ministries. Mark, take a minute and share about your ministry and how people might be able to find help from Blessing Point.
Mark Barnard:
Well, thanks Jamie. Our ministry was founded about 20 years ago now for the purpose of healing churches with painful histories. And you may be in a church that is in a crisis right now. You may be a pastor who you’ve realized that your church has a long history of repetitive crises and those are the kind of situations we come in to help facilitate. We go through a process to help the church really make sense of the pain that they’ve been through and to discern what the Lord is saying to them through the pain they’ve experienced that often leads to repentance and brokenness and the church receives a new spirit moving forward. There’s more work to do. That’s a very simplified explanation. You can learn more at our website@blessingpoint.org. We have a free church healing kit that will get you started as you think about how these issues might relate to your church. We’ve got a really strong catalog of blog posts about these issues, so I think that’s a good way to start. Also, Dr. Kenneth Quick’s book, healing the Heart of Your Church, you can get it on Amazon. That would also be a helpful tool.
Jamie Mitchell:
Prince, I’ve taken some time and listened to your wonderful podcast. How can people connect with you and especially listen to your podcast?
Prince Moon:
Sure, you can go to any of the platforms, Facebook or YouTube. We’re on about nine of them, maybe a few more now I think. Just go to Wounded Hearts, wounded Churches and our main genre and focus are just three things. We focus on those three areas, reconciliation, forgiveness and healing. In God’s church we have a live call in program, an accounting continuum. We also have people that come in to be our guest on the panel. Wonderful staff works with us. Stella Cavin, she’s 92 years old out of Ohio, pastor Mon from Alabama and of course our director Cleod. And so we’re able to support in those who’ve been wounded. Again, I submit to you, can you imagine 40 million people stopped coming to church 10 million because they’ve been hurt. So we’re reaching out to those who’ve been wounded, who’ve been hurt to listen in. We want to be a support system for you, let you know we love you and our focus is on you. You can email us at R-E-E-E-E-C-H-O-N e@aol.com or again, wounded Hearts wounded churches on any platform you may choose.
Jamie Mitchell:
Okay, men, the great reformer Martin Luther said that you can determine a true church that preaches the word practices the sacraments and performs church discipline. Now obviously discipline is important. It’s biblical. Many churches avoid it or ignore their responsibility to hold people accountable, but also they misuse discipline and they don’t really help restore broken people. In two Corinthians two, Paul rebukes the church for what he called excessive sorrow, which was the continued disciplining of a person who already had repented Prince. Your first up, is this a common source of church hurt and what are you seeing in regards to church discipline God and bad?
Prince Moon:
Again, I’ll reiterate my repetitiveness. The minister, the deacons have to know what to do, when to do and how to go about it. Especially if the issue with a family member in the church, maybe he’s a minister, maybe a new convert. The issue that occurred, should it be done in public or in private a Sunday or a Wednesday? Should children be asked to leave a sanctuary? What level should they be disciplined? No testimony, no preaching, no attention. So they’ve got to know how to handle those situations. Now there’s a situation that I’m thinking about in the south here with a pastor did fall and so I was asked to go and help him to work through the process. So he did sit down at the church, but a month later he stood back up preaching again. And of course that the hurt was just momentous. And so I think there must be discipline in the church. In fact, if the pastor is sincere, he should want to discipline himself. He should want to sit down and maybe hold back for a while until God restores him because it’s going to take a trust issue when the minister, the deacon has issues, there has to be a trust that has to be built back up and that takes time and love to pursue that if ever. So it takes some time.
Jamie Mitchell:
Mark, that second Corinthians two passage is really fascinating because in his first letter, Paul chided the church for not doing anything for somebody in sin and then he had to come back and said, you went overboard. How would you counsel a church that needs to practice discipline to have some safeguards to not fall into the trap of being harsh or to demonstrating excessive sorrow like Paul outlined?
Mark Barnard:
Well, I think first I’d say that if churches practiced church discipline in a way God can bless blessing point ministries would not exist because so many of the problems we are faced with are related to neglect, avoidance, or abuse. A lot of times how you handle a church discipline case can lead to a crisis. So you’re right, there needs to be some circumspect, prayerful consideration and not a reactive consideration as to how you’re going to deal with a particular situation. I think it would be a good safeguard to look at your church board or elders or deacons, whatever ecclesiastical structure you have, look at that group of leaders and say, okay, what spiritual gifts do they have? Are they more prophetic like insisting on right and wrong? And here’s some young lady maybe that got pregnant out of wedlock and they decide they need to make an example of her.
And it does not turn out well publicly, but if there’s someone also on that leadership team that has the gift of mercy, they’re going to have a very different response to that crisis. And you need to feel the tension between those different spiritual gifts to really get a handle on how the Lord would handle that particular case. I also think it’s interesting in the first Corinthians five passage that Paul is rebuking the church. He’s not. I mean, yes, he says that what the guy did was wrong, but he’s rebuking the church. It was a church problem, not an individual problem. So how we handle these things is very important and oftentimes if they’re mishandled, it leads to a bigger problem.
Jamie Mitchell:
Prince, I want to just delve into an issue here with the time we have left in this segment. I heard something on your podcast that was interesting to me and I think is related. There’s a similar problem in an inconsistent and toxic church culture, and that’s the issue of favoritism and prejudice. Is this a potential problem in churches that causes greater hurt and how might we see this manifest itself in churches?
Prince Moon:
Yeah, the past about six weeks, we’ve been dealing with both of those subjects in detail. I mentioned to you the pastor that hired the minister from the outside to be in the church as his assistant and the other guys did not like that and they saw it as favoritism for the new guy, major issue. But again, I think had love ruled that could have been worked out rather than contributing to a split. Again, the past six weeks, we’ve had a guy on a Spanish guy and a black guy and they were talking about issues of mixed marriages and it was so funny to me and they said the different races should not mix, but yet Harvard Magazine says 90% of genetic identification is human. We have the same many genetic makeup. The genome project by Mr. Venus says there’s no genetic basis for race. Now if you guys would see me, I look like I’m a black guy, but I’m not.
I got you there. My people are from Scotland and I’m from the Glary clan, and so we’re all mixed up. Jacob had four wives from Syria, Abraham wife’s from Egyptian, solemn, et cetera. In fact, there’s a Harvard in there too called Rahab. So we can think that we don’t like this person, but we’re the same thing. They are in reality. It was funny, but the bottom line again is love. Love covers multitude of sins and friends love. I know you already know this, but I’m just going to say it. Love is a unifier. Love brings people together, love cements relationships. Statistics say, can you imagine 30% of homes break up in divorce, 30% as a counselor for 40 years. Many of those issues could have been worked out. Had there been love there, this church and Detroit I mentioned earlier that could have been worked out had there been loves there. So again, these guys on my program, it was funny because we’re all the same race for the most part. And of course the Genome project and Dr. Vender bring that fact out.
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, prince, as a fellow Scotsman, I’ve got to check my ancestry.com. We might be relatives, we’ll have to check on it. Friends, the church is known as the bride of Christ. Yet in many respects, if the wedding were to occur today, we would show up with a dirty rip stain gown. We must do better. But when we wrap up, is there hope? Can we change this course of church hurt? Stay with us. Well, you probably know the saying, if you find the perfect church, do not attend because you will ruin it. We’re talking about some of the hard things that happened in churches today, but we need to recognize that. But for the grace of God and constantly being careful to follow God’s word and to walk in the spirit, any of us could cause church hurt on any fellow brother or sister, prince Moon and Mark Bernard has been our guest prince. If someone is listening and they believe that they are in a church hurt situation, what would you tell them to do? What two or three very practical things should they immediately move towards to find help or hope or health?
Prince Moon:
The question is timely because someone is listening through that process. Number one, I would keep the right attitude about issues. They’re going to arise. I mean where someone told me 30 years ago where there are people, there are problems, and that’s true. So the right attitude has to be maintained through praying, seeking the Lord, because there has to have the love that motivates my discussions with the pastor or with the deacon or with the choir. There has to be a motivation of love that’s going to pursue that godly end. And again, I reiterate, I’ve got to know what to do, when to do it and how to go about it. If my lovely wife has a fly on her head, I’m not going to remove it with a sledgehammer. She would not like that and I wouldn’t neither. And what I’m finding out many times the way they handle situations are worth the infraction.
And now we have two problems. So again, knowing what to do, number two, how to go about it and the most important when to do it. And if one of those areas are out of kilter, it will affect the whole idea of the system. So again, attitude is so important and dealing with couples, my first question to them is, do you want to stay together? Do you all love one another? Because if that attitude is not there, we’re really wasting our time. I counseled a couple about three years ago and the woman said, I’ve had enough. She couldn’t do anymore. And because of that fact, we couldn’t continue the counseling session. So again, love covers so many things and it had also long suffering. So number one, the right attitude, knowing what to do and seeking God for guidance in those areas.
Jamie Mitchell:
Prince, just a quick follow up on that. A person in a church, if they’re hurting most times are scared to talk to anybody, but they also are suffering in silence. They need to talk to somebody, they need to find a trusted friend and probably somebody outside of their church situation. Isn’t that probably a good first step as well
Prince Moon:
As a counselor? Emphatically, yes. Mer program is excellent in that because there’s got to be a communication there with someone you trust. The issue is when the minister or the deacon have a fall that people don’t know who to trust anymore. So I’m trusting that as they read their Bible, they remember that God did not do that to them. Don’t put the baby out with the bath water that God still loves them and he will guide them. But yeah, discussion, talking about it with a trusted friend is extremely important. Technically, someone who’s older, been around for some years has experienced, that would be a definite for step, no doubt about it.
Jamie Mitchell:
Mark, you deal with churches and let’s say a pastor is listening and maybe he finds himself in a church that has a pattern of hurting their members or even hurting their pastors. They might have felt justified, but now they’re feeling convicted by maybe even their own behavior or contributing or cooperating with this bad behavior. What should the church leader do if he thinks the fellowship that he’s a part of is toxic?
Mark Barnard:
Well, let’s review how to know if your church is toxic or not. I think there are some signs that you will identify with. Number one, is there joy in the atmosphere of the church? Because a lot of times these wounds affect the quality of worship, the spirit with which the church operates. Is there joy in the spirit of the church? That’s one another. Is trust in leadership? Has that been violated? Is there a disconnect between the leadership and the congregation? Another would be mission and vision fulfillment. If a church consistently is doing everything it knows to reach its community, but it’s not getting traction on that effort, it may be the Lord is blocking their efforts because he knows the church needs help and they need to deal with their relational spiritual help before he can trust new people to them. Also communication. Are they talking about things they need to talk about or do they sweep them under the rug?
And finally, the most important one is historical crisis. Was the church birthed without a controversy? Is it free from historical wounds against the pastor or against the board? Those are the kinds of things that will help you determine whether your church is toxic or not. And I think we need to acknowledge that churches do not become toxic overnight. There are usually underlying issues that are facilitating that behavior. And parallel to that, the Lord is speaking through those issues to the church, trying to draw their attention to these things so that he can heal them because that’s his ultimate desire.
Jamie Mitchell:
Men we’ve dealt with today in general, but there are a lot more specifics. I mean, there is abuse by leaders. There’s abuse by members. There’s a history of hurt in churches. And the fact of the matter is that unless there is a full throated admission that something is not right and it needs to be dealt with, none of these things can be addressed or corrected. And so that is the harsh reality. Unless there is spiritual revival, renewal, repentance change cannot happen. And that’s I guess what we’re really praying for. And so Prince and Mark, thank you so much, prince. Would you do us the honor to just take a minute and will pray for our listeners today, and especially for the person sitting at home who recognizes that they have been a victim of church hurt.
Prince Moon:
Father, we thank you, Lord God, for this program that we’re on today. The discussion was heartfelt to those listening. And we know, Lord, someone today is going through this process. We went through it ourselves so we know how the feelings are very deep. So undertake, Lord God, give divine help that person, build them up, draw them close to you in love, and we’ll thank you for it in Christ and we do pray. Amen.
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, amen. Thank you. This has been so informative and I know that we have not done the topic justice. There’s so much more to do and we need to even discuss how to reclaim the reputation of the church and testimony of Christ. But thank you for being a part of us and thank you for listening today. You may be in a great church. Praise God for that. Yet, if you are hurting today, we pray that you’ll find help and support and wholeness in Christ and make sure that you will take courage. And so as we end each program, live and lead with courage because the church and the world desperately needs it. Thank you for joining us here at Stand In the Gap Today.
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