This transcript was taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program originally aired on 11/19/21. To listen to the program, please click HERE.
Sam Rohrer: Well, according to the latest research conducted by Dr. George Barna on behalf of the Foundations of Freedom this significant finding has come forth. Listen to this, 75% of millennials in America, now those are those individuals born between the years of 1984 and 2002 or put it as perspective ages 18 to 36, at least of the date of this research. 75% of that group are unsure of the purpose for their life. The connection to this finding, one logical question that raises is this, do these findings pinpoint a direct link between emotional instability and historically high suicide rates now among millennials? Or this question, do these findings pinpoint a direct causation for why 69% say that while there are some conditions or people for which they would be willing to die only 29% would be willing to sacrifice their life for their religious faith.
Think about that. Now we’re going to go into detail on that. With that, I walk him into the program here on Stand in the Gap Today. I’m Sam Rohrer and I’m going to be joined in just a moment again by pastor Gary Dull and our special recurring guest and friend of this program and all of those who really want to know more about a biblical worldview and live it out and that is George Barna, founder of the original Barna group, and now professor at Arizona Christian university and director of research there at the Arizona Christian University Cultural Research Center.
Now the title I’ve chosen for today’s program is this “The profound millennial struggle, life purpose, and meaning”, with that I welcome you George, back to the program. Thanks for being with us once more.
George Barna: Oh, Sam and Gary, it’s always a pleasure to be with you.
Sam Rohrer: Well, George, like we do every month when we’re together here, we reveal and apply what I consider to be some extraordinary research that you do as it relates to the culture and to the values of Americans, which ultimately lead to what our culture looks like and ultimately leads to this as well. Our laws and the public policy that comes out of anyone in civil authority. Now in this recent report, you identified some significant facts and you drew some pertinent connections of which I just highlighted too, the suicide rate among millennials. And in my estimation, you didn’t use these words, but it’s an abysmal level of millennials possessing a religious faith valuable enough, but would give them the reason to die for what they believe. So here, just start out with this right now. Can you provide, first of all, the purpose for this set of research and what were you seeking to measure when you conducted this?
George Barna: Well, Sam, we, we did this study among millennials specifically because they’re a very important group in American society today. They have tremendous economic influence. They have, as we see during the elections major political impact, they are the leaders of most of the young families in America today, meaning that there are primary parenting generation right now and frankly they’re reshaping the values, the attitudes, the lifestyles, the faith systems of America today, there are most populous generation in the country, so they have all these different domains of influence. So the reason why we went about doing this research was twofold. One, we wanted to destroy some of the existing myths about millennials. And secondly, we wanted to gain new insights into who they are, how they live, how they think, why they’re doing what they’re doing, where they’re taking the culture, because ultimately as followers of Christ, our goal is to know how can we befriend these people, this generation so that we can disciple them.
Ultimately we’re called to bring every one of them to Jesus Christ. And so we want to understand what are the kinds of issues they’re wrestling with? What are some of the goals and objectives that they have in life that we need to be aware of and that maybe we can build into all of these kinds of things were behind the reasons that we did these survey. And so the research focus became on what had not already been examined. We didn’t want to repeat what other research companies have taken a look at. That’s a waste of time and money. So we wanted to identify areas of the lives of millennials that hadn’t been examined very deeply. And we wanted to go into those particular areas to understand their deeper needs, some of their spiritual pitfalls and points of satisfaction or dissatisfaction in their lives.
Gary Dull: George, it’s a delight to have you back on the program today. And in a general sense, can you share with our audience, the top line findings, you qualify that underpin the potential connection to high millennial suicide rates and the low level of commitment to spiritual values.
George Barna: Yeah. You know, Gary, when I look at the study, I mean, there were four things that really popped out to me. One of those was the fact that, as Sam alluded to earlier, 75% of millennials are still searching for purpose in life. That’s huge. We’ll talk in about that [inaudible 00:05:43]. You know, the second thing that really jumped out is the fact that 54% of millennials alluded to mental or emotional health issues that they’re wrestling with and specifically what we discovered is that, if 54% say they frequently have problems with anxiety, fear, and depression, and then a third thing that I think was very significant in all the research had to do with the fact that a large majority of more than six out of ten of them indicate that they’re really not satisfied with the relationships that they’ve been able to develop in their lives.
We know that God made us to be relational people. We know that relationships are such a critical foundation on which we base so many of our choices and our lifestyles and yet this is a generation that while they agree, yes, relationships are critical most of them say, but it’s not working for me. They claim that they have a revolving door of relationships and that even their most intimate relationships aren’t working. And then the fourth area that we identified had to do with their faith.
And I’ll tell you, this is a generation that’s really unlike any that’s come before them as far as we can tell. And there are a lot of things that lead us to know that this is a generation that is spiritually adrift, a group where their worldview doesn’t relate to the things of God, a generation where the vast majority of them don’t even believe in the biblical identity of God, where most of them do not believe that the Bible is something that can be relied upon something that’s trustworthy, something that’s relevant for their lives, something where they don’t connect with Jesus. So those were some of the key things that popped out of the research.
Sam Rohrer: George, I’m listening to what you say and I’m saying, wow, you’re describing a mission field. So ladies and gentlemen, we have a large segment of our population. We’re talking about them today. It’s the millennial generation and here’s the theme, The profound millennial struggle, life purpose and meaning”, we’ll get into the causes for we’re finding today.
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Sam Rohrer: Today is another one of our culture update programs with special guest Dr. George Barna and we do this every month. So I just want to encourage all of you who are listening right now that you can go to our website, stand in the gap radio.com or as many, many do, download our app on your phone and then you can listen at your convenience, but you can also access you can sort, you can find the series of programs and if you go back every month, in some cases like this month we’ve had now, two, just because of the way things have worked out, you will find a continuum of research that we have revealed on this program in the context of how it applies in a very real sense in all ways we give solutions, which we will on this program at the end.
Now, what do you do when you know this information? How do you take in and apply it? So, anyways, I just want you to know that and encourage you to take advantage of that and to share it with your friends. This kind of information is just not out there. Certainly it’s not out there in the regular world and it’s not, well, frankly, nobody’s doing it quite like we are in this setting with George. So, I encourage you strongly to do that. Now let’s go here. We talked about the findings in the first segment. We’re going to talk about the cause in this segment.
Think of in this term, when a patient manifests physical symptoms, for which medical attention is required, what is required? Well, an honest and thorough diagnosis. Well, when a culture specifically, we’re talking about the American culture, when it begins to manifest physical symptoms, for which ideological and spiritual attention is needed. Well, same thing, an honest and thorough diagnosis is required. Now, in both cases, cultural and physical, be it physical or spiritual or cultural, any of those three, frankly, there’s a connection that goes to the same root cause. There is some root cause and you must identify that, or the symptoms will only get worse or if you can cover them over for a little bit, they will express themselves in other ways.
That is the way in our culture now. Our culture is sick. I found a biblical principle. I’d like to take biblical principles and apply to everything we’re talking about. In Isaiah:1: 4-7, let me read this because God there presents a diagnosis of a very sick Israel, culturally and he draws a ahead heart connection. Listen to this. He said, “Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, offspring of evil doers, children who deal corruptly, they have forsaken the Lord, they have despised the Holy One of Israel, they are utterly estranged. He says this, “your whole head is sick and the whole heart faint. He said from the soul of your foot, even to your head, there is no soundness in it. There’s an implication here. Now listen to this, your country, as a result, lies desolate. Your cities are burned with fire. In your very presence foreigners devour your land. It is desolate as overthrown by foreigners.
So, I hope you understand and grab there the diagnosis. God, in that passage, actually talked a little bit about the cause and he said, certainly there are consequences, which we’re going to talk about that in the next segment. George, according to the Bible and a biblical worldview, which is one and the same, we know there’s a direct connection between the spiritual and the physical, the heart and the head. And as we look at it here, it finds its way out into the culture. Now I’m asking you, what have you really uncovered as the potential root cause connecting the two millennial views of life and purpose and meaning and what you’ve identified, or we see out there as an increase in suicide rates in this population. Can you kind of put those two together?
George Barna: Well, sure. Sam, I mean, we’re in a situation where you got 75% who say they’re searching for purpose and as you dig a little bit deeper, as we did, what we discovered is that only one out of five millennials believe that life itself is sacred. And at the same time, half of them said that there’s no absolute or inherent value to human life. Connect that with this idea they have. Well, there really isn’t much, if anything worth dying for basically what they’re telling us is there’s no reason to get out of bed in the morning. Now, when you think about that, that makes sense if your living life, without believing that there is a holy righteous omnipotent, omniscient, God, who not only created the world, but is still active in it today, who is still involved in the lives of the people that he’s created.
See the typical millennial in America today believes that life is random and it’s unpredictable. And I think, I tried to put myself in that situation and as best I could do, yeah, it seemed to me that the world was a very scary place when you have no God who is in control, no God who loves you, no God who’s looking out for your best interests without that sense of God’s knowledge of you, his caring of you, his love of you, his acceptance of you, life becomes really empty. And, and so why would you go on living? I can understand how somebody would commit suicide. I’m not condoning it, but I’m saying, yeah, if you don’t have a right view of God and his majesty and his purposes and how we live under his control, his love, his guidance, yeah, suicide makes sense.
Gary Dull: George. I remember a number of years ago, I conducted my own survey with young people and that would be the millennials today. I would guess they would come in that category. And it was interesting to note in my personal survey that the large majority of them had a fear of death and could not find a purpose for living. And you know, when you put those two things together, it’s a concerning thing. But certainly then we also realize that Jesus Christ is the answer to that and this has just come back to my memory as we are talking here today, but going on to your research in the area of convictions and values, what have you discovered that would cause 69% of millennials to say, there are some things for which they would die, but yet less than one third of the millennials would identify a spiritual value related to their religious faith as being worth dying for.
George Barna: Well, again, Gary, it’s probably something that you heard from the students that you were talking to. They have all kinds of perceptions without much depth of knowledge. And they tend to make their decisions on the basis of emotion rather than biblical truth. So as we evaluate a millennials, what do we find? We find that they’re not terribly interested in being part of organized religion because their perception is that the Bible or pastors may teach one thing, but Christians live differently. So, their conclusion is people who call themselves Christians typically are hypocrite. This particular study we even looked at, what kind of people do you trust? And one of the things we found is that a large majority of them do not trust even pastors to always or even just usually do or say what’s right in a given situation. So you put together the lack of trust that they have with spiritual leaders, with Christian people, with religious institutions, add to that, the fact that they don’t really believe in the God of scripture, they don’t have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
And the fact that they’re not finding other faith’s that compete with Christianity to be compelling.
And so here they are, they’re left all alone that they’re not willing to die for faith because they don’t think that it’s real. They don’t think that it’s relevant. They don’t think that it’s reliable. That’s part of what they’re still searching for in life. And I think it’s a tremendous challenge to those of us who are followers of Christ, who want to disciple other people to recognize that our testimony, not just through our words, but through the way that we’re living has not been compelling enough to the people who are constantly watching us, constantly challenging us, that they would say, yeah, I like what they’re about. I want to have what they have. You see and I think a lot of this also comes back to their misunderstanding of love, not recognizing that Christ demonstrated the ultimate love for us by willing to die for us.
In this survey question, we found that millennials aren’t willing to die for much of anything. And it’s because to them, love is an emotion. You have to be feeling it at the moment, as opposed to what Jesus demonstrated, which is that love is an eternal commitment. And it’s something that you do because of that commitment. It’s something that we can understand, the more that we get into God’s word, but of course, millennials don’t have that training. They don’t have that inclination and they don’t have that investment of themselves into discovering God’s truth.
Sam Rohrer: George, I tell you, we’re just about to go into a break, but what you’re describing is the difference between what we’ve often talked about is a matter of conviction. The kind of thing where Daniel says no way I’m going to do that and Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego says, fine, throw us in the fire, we’re willing to die for it. And what we often refer today, as convenience as somewhere, perhaps in the next segment, I’m going to come back you and ask you to maybe describe what it requires to take what somebody believes and move it to the point of conviction and out of that category of convenience. Does that make sense? Cause that’ll give you some time to think about that. At least [inaudible 00:18:30], we’ll be back here in a moment [inaudible 00:18:33] here right now. When we come back, we’re going to look at the implications.
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Sam Rohrer: Well, we just talked about the cause, we have findings, we have the impacts and we’re going to talk about the implications. What are the implications to our culture, the home, the nation, the church. What are the implications? If what we’re describing does not change. George, I’m going to save that question. I said, I was going to ask you into the next segment. I want to put that as a part of the cure, perhaps as we go there next, but in this section, I want to talk about implications. Ladies and gentlemen, think about this with me, for you don’t mind because regardless of what some of the cynics might say, choices really do have consequences and inherent within a biblical worldview and identified throughout all of scripture is the reality of individual choice. I can’t choose for you. You can’t choose for me.
And before God nobody gets into heaven, unless they personally choose for him. Right? So individual choice is important, all through God constantly implores all of us to choose him with direct warnings of the dire consequences for not doing so. And here’s an example, Joshua, before the nation of Israel, if you recall this, the people were, he’s having to battle with them. And he said, wait a minute, come on, wake up people. I’m putting that in vernacular. But he said, look, choose you this day, whom you will serve God or the gods of the land. He said, but as for me and my house, I choose the Lord. Now that was a clear example, but it is repeated throughout scripture, God, to all of Israel said this from a national perspective, a cultural perspective. Deuteronomy:28: 1 and 2 perfect.
In those verses, it says just choose me and keep my commandments, direct result and consequence. I’ll pour out blessings so great that they’ll literally overtake you. I’ll overwhelm you with blessings. And then he turned around and gave the other side of the equation. Deuteronomy:28:15, he says, “choose other gods and I will turn my blessing into cursings and judgment and multiply them. He doesn’t actually use the number in Deuteronomy 28, but if you go back to Leviticus 26, a parallel passage to it, he says, I’m going to increase the judgment over blessings by seven times and those judgments will literally overtake you so greatly that they’ll crush you. And you’ll literally have no possible way to look except up and you can’t run fast enough to outrun them.
So really do sense, that’s where we are in America and yet we haven’t understood how God works. And that’s part of what you’re doing with this research. So in a national sense, God told Israel, and I’m saying to you [inaudible 00:21:19] by application that “reject me in my plan and your nation will experience such sweeping cultural upheavals and collapse that you will have no place to look but up”. What are some of the most significant implications. I want to go there, the implications now to our nation’s families and our culture go there and then we’ll pick up some of the other breaks as a result of the findings that you’ve just uncovered.
George Barna: Well, I mean, clearly, as the verses you read Sam allude to, we’ve only got two choices in life, you either obey God or you disobey him, you accept him, or you reject him and as the scriptures point out, the consequences are, you’ll be blessed or you’ll be cursed. And so when I look at a generation like millennials, what I am, I think uncovering through the research is a generation that’s undermined by heartbreak, by pain, by aimlessness and I would say it’s clearly a result of their rejecting God’s ways. They’re so ignorant and I don’t mean to be obnoxious to where the generation or to be overly critical, but I mean, clearly they are a biblically illiterate generation. Most Americans are biblically illiterate, not just millennials, but as a generation, that’s where they’re coming from and they don’t even realize that they’re rejecting God’s ways and most of them wouldn’t consider that to be a possibility because they don’t believe that there is a God such as the God of Israel that exists.
So what happens as a result of that? I think the millennials are a great example of what happens. You can look at many different aspects of their life. You talk about family and culture. Well, let’s look at family. I mean, what we know is that, marriages are suffering, we’re having fewer of them among millennials. Cohabitation is rising dramatically. We know that those who are getting married are getting married later in life, which means that they’re having fewer children. But the other reason they are having fewer children is that they don’t understand that children are a blessing from God. And so, because of the issue you brought up earlier, convenience, it’s inconvenient to have children. They’re expensive. They wreck your plans. They put limitations on you. And so it’s the generation that is the least interested in having children that we’ve ever seen. Divorce continues at very high levels.
So marriage also is even being redefined where they don’t even as a generation believe that marriage is limited to a man and a woman, a majority of those in the millennial generation believe that that is not God’s plan for humanity and that it transcends all cultures. They believe that marriage should be any two people who feel like getting married. They don’t even yet necessarily bring the whole concept of love into it. We can look at the implications for their relationships overall. They tell us that they can’t make and keep friends. Why? Because it’s like Pascal talked about, we all have a God shaped heart hole, a hole in our hearts where if God, isn’t there to fill that nothing else is going to fill it. And yet they’re trying to fill it with all these other things.
We can look at what’s going on in our culture in terms of work and employment. We know that millennials are the least likely to be employed. They’re least interested in being employed. When they work, they’re redefining what they believe, their responsibilities are on the job. They’re putting together a bunch of part-time jobs, rather than taking a full time job, because they’re not so interested in having a long term career. So, I mean, there are all of these kinds of things that we can look at where when you miss the boat biblically, you just plain miss the boat and everything goes downstream, but it’s going to be going over a cliff sooner than you know.
Gary Dull: Okay. George, let’s expand our vision a little bit from the family and culture to the nation. What would you say as the result of your research are the implications on our nation as a whole, our laws and our government policies in light of what we’re talking about here?
George Barna: Well, again Gary, as you well know, if we go back into scripture to find something that resonates with our culture, I think it would be the verse that tells us that the culture was doing what was right in their own eyes. That’s exactly what America is all about today. We have no sense of, or commitment to God’s vision for the future of our nation. That is one of the reasons why people are at each other’s throats politically and ideologically in America today, that’s why we’re burning things down in our cities. That’s why we’re having riots and demonstrations and marches and protests. That’s why we’re having all kinds of monkey business take place with our elections. It’s because we’ve lost the common sense of God’s vision for our future.
And so what’s happening instead is that we’re having laws developed for us that are geared to facilitating power and wealth and comfort for the elite rather than pursuing what you and I might describe as biblical righteousness, biblical humility, and seeking a sense of God’s joy, which far transcends happiness. Happiness is just a fleeting emotion. Joy is a deeper sense that is longer lasting based on knowing, loving and serving God. And so we’ve given up on those things and our laws basically are saying to people, look, when it comes to morality, there is no right or wrong. You determine whatever you want to do, what feels right for you that’s a good thing, that’s what you should pursue and so we look at sexual orientation, we look at abortion, we look at economic freedom, we look at freedom of speech, we look at sexual behavior, we look at religious Liberty. All of these things are being undermined by the fact that we’ve abandoned God’s ways and we’ve said, we know the best way. When it feels right, that’s how we know that it’s right.
Sam Rohrer: And George, what we’ve done is you’ve given comment on the family. I picked out the three institutions that God has established; the family, civil government, and here’s the church. The church is not immune from this either is it, you explained some of how the implications are, what we’re already seeing in the church as a regard of these findings that you’re uncovering.
George Barna: Yeah. So Sam, I mean, you’re right in pointing that out. I mean, the church, all believers of Christ together is the church. It’s not a bunch of buildings on the corner with services at 11 on Sunday. That’s what the church may do but the church is all of us who love Christ and who know that we are here to serve him. We have a responsibility in any place where he places us, our voice has to be present. It has to be consistent. It has to be biblical. Our behavior has to be Christ-like, it has to be consistent and uncompromised, and our hope has to be not in what we create or what our government creates or what our businesses creates, our hope can only be in God and his truth.
So as we look at this culture and what’s going on today, I would say, we can only conclude that the church in America is failing to uphold its responsibility, to be salt and light in this world and the result can only be that America will be condemned by God, to a fate of its own choosing and making, because we’ve said, we know better than God does and so as we allow the culture around us to pursue these things and to fail, to have the backbone and the voice to stand up and say, no, as for me and my household, we’re going to do it the Lord’s way. We’re not going to accept what the government is telling us. We have to demonstrate that kind of leadership and commitment.
Sam Rohrer: And ladies and gentlemen, George is just moving us right into where we’re going to go. Next segment is talk about the cure. We’re talking about the implications. They are broad. If we don’t do what God says, he says, you will have no more nation. My blessings will stop. Well, all right, what’s the cure? What’s the cure for where we are right now. We’ll talk about that next with some solutions here in the next [inaudible 00:30:10].
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Sam Roher: Well, there is a cure. We’ve tried to lay out research that George Barna, who is now the director of research at the cultural research center Arizona Christian university and I want to give that website cultural research center.com. When you go to that site, you can actually sign up and then you will receive emails when research and other compilations and summaries and so forth are sent out.
And I encourage you to do that, because it’s very, very valuable. But as we’ve taken a look at this today, information when you find it does no good if you don’t use it. Warnings mean nothing if you don’t heed them.
So, on the program, when you listen to the program, and I think this personally in my life all the time. If the Lord allows me to come in contact with the truth, I have an obligation to do something with it. Now, if I don’t respond to the truth, then I make myself God, because I have said, well, truth is not important and my own thinking is more important well, now we’re into the kind of trouble we are here today in America. But, there’s a cure for a millennial generation. And frankly, as George said, our entire generation doesn’t have a whole lot of practical information or a clue in their living as to who God is and certainly a biblical worldview.
So whether we wish to move from death to life, which all people do I think, or from sickness to health, certainly who wants to be sick or from sorrow to joy who likes to languish and sorrow or from meaninglessness to meaning or aimlessness to purpose, who does not want to go to something that’s more defined and produces some good benefits? Well, the Bible holds all the answers and we talk about that a lot, the cure for all diseases of the mind and the body and the soul are found in the scripture, the remedy for all cultural sickness is the Word of God. The question is, will we choose like Joshua? As for me and my house, we will choose the Lord.
George, I want to go back and ask you to comment now on the question we identified in that other segment, I’ve written it down this way, here, “what’s required to move someone from what someone thinks to what someone believes and from convenience to conviction, the point to which someone believes something sufficiently that they are willing to die for it. We’ve intertwined this through the program, but as a cure what’s required for somebody to take what they think to what they believe and from convenience to conviction.
George Barna: Well, I think a lot of it has to do with intentionality, Sam. You know, what we find is that often as we study people’s worldview, we find that it has developed by default. They began to own different perspectives and different behaviors without even realizing that, that’s what they were taking on in their life. And so really what we’re doing is we’re bringing all of this back to a discussion of worldview, and I’d remind everybody that everyone of us has a worldview, it develops between 15 months of age and 13 years of age and then we use that as the decision making filter that we rely upon for every decision we make for the rest of our lives. So when we talk about worldview, when I bring this up in conversation, it’s not uncommon for me to see the eye roll, but I try to tell them no, no, no, this isn’t just an academic scholarly exercise. This is really the foundation of your life, because this is where you determine what truth is for you and how you determine that is critical.
Now we know in America, only 6% of adults have a biblical worldview. That’s because there are many different worldviews that you can choose from. And when we’re not thinking about it, when we’re not studying it, when we’re not really working at it, we fall into that convenience mode where wow, it’s a lot easier just to have sex with anybody whenever I feel like it, rather than thinking through, does this have implications on a human level, on a health level, on a relational level, on a spiritual level? We don’t think about all that. We just do what feels right? And so instead, you ask, how do we change this? Well, we’ve got to become very conscious and intentional about the process.
And so when I talk to people, I said, well, when was the last time you did a personal, it can be private, you don’t have to make it public, but last time you did a personal inventory of your core beliefs. What you believe about God, do you believe that there is such a thing as God? What do you believe about the nature of that God, that he’s the only one, that he’s omnipotent, he knows everything, he has all power. Do you believe that that God loves people? Do you believe he created them? Do you believe he created them with a purpose? And so yeah, let’s talk about that purpose.
If you believe all that, what do you believe that purpose is for your life? Do you believe that he just wants you to pursue happiness or will you go to the scriptures and discover that what he really said is that he wants you to know him intimately. He wants you to serve him continually. He wants you to love him with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul. And as a result of that relationship, he sent his son here to die for you. Do you believe that? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, that he is God, that his death on the cross was for you to make up for your sin? Do you understand that you’re a sinner? Do you understand that, no people are not basically good.
We are sinners at heart. We’re born into sin. We practice sin. A lot of us love sin, and that has implications and consequences for us. But do you know that there’s a way to get beyond that and that it is through Jesus Christ. Do you understand the kind of commitment that it takes to be his disciple and what it means to really live for Christ?
And do you understand that to help us do that? He gave us his Word, the Bible that conveys to us absolute truth. It tells us right from wrong. It tells us appropriate from inappropriate. It gives us a direction to move in every situation in our life. It’s relevant to every dimension of how we live and you recognize that the Bible even tells us how we know when we’re successful and it’s not a dollar level that we have to reach with our salary or our bank accounts.
It’s not the car we drive, the house we live, the trophy, spouse, no it’s about being consistently obedient to God’s principles, which are in that word that he gave us to lead a meaningful life, that he allows us to have through Jesus that he ordained for us, because he is God, he is in control and he put all of this together because he cares that deeply about us. I mean, those are the kinds of things that we need to go through and do a deep dive into who am I really? What am I trying to do? Who do I want to be? Why am I living on earth? I’m here to know love and serve God with all my heart, mind, strength and soul. And that puts me on a particular trajectory, but I won’t be on that trajectory unless all these other elements are in place.
Sam Rohrer: George, you gave a tremendous apologetic there, ladies and gentlemen, I mean, we’re at the end of the program, but what you basically said was, as you said, repeatedly, we have to become intentional. And ladies and gentlemen, whether you’re mom and dad, or a grandma, granddad, or a millennial listening that applies to all of us. We have to deal with what God says. We have to look in the mirror and slow down long enough to get all of the flow of communication, the propaganda that is coming into our ears and our eyes, get away long enough to look in the mirror spiritually and into God’s word and saying, Lord, where am I? How do I stack up with what you say? And then from that, then take and implement. And George, thank you so much for being on the program today so very practical.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us today. There’d be no sense for us to be here if you were not there. Together, if we take this truth and apply it, and we stand in the gap for truth, God will hear. And let us think of this as we approach Thanksgiving week. Let us return to God in our heart and then return to him in our actions.
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