This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program originally airing on 3/17/23. To listen to the program, please click HERE.
Sam Rohrer: Well, hello, and welcome to this Friday edition of Stand in the Gap Today. Hard to believe that this week has flown by so quickly, but it has, and we’re here and it’s a good program today we have lined up for you. I pray that you stay with us as we are going to, well, this is actually our monthly culture update focus with Dr. George Barna, who has done many things in his life, but he’s currently there as professor at Arizona Christian University. And he’s the director of research at the Cultural Research Center there at the university.
Now using the tools of research, and I’m going to put it this way, honest data analysis, a lot of research going on these days, very little of it is done though is honest, makes a big difference, but George and the Cultural Research Center have been in a multi-year research project seeking to build an inventory, they call it an Inventory of Americans Worldview Perceptions. And is a part of this year’s 2023 American Worldview Inventory effort, they have just released what they call it, release number two, and if you go to the website you can find that they’re probably under that heading, but it concerns worldview attitudes of Americans. They’ve just completed that.
And that’s going to be the focus for today’s program, where Isaac Crockett and I will talk with Dr. George Barna and about how this information, because that’s always key, getting information is one thing, how you can apply it and for what purposes really where we’re wanting to go today in the program. So the title I’ve chosen for today’s program is this, Laying a Foundation for a Biblical Worldview of which we talk so much on this program, and when we deal with issues of the day, just like yesterday, dealt with the program on a constitutional matter, but dealing with banking in America and the dollar in what’s happening.
All of those, and what we approach it from is a biblical world view perspective. It’s very practical and all matters of life. So we’re going to take that in mind and walk right into this program today. George Barna, thank you so much for being back with us. Always a pleasure.
George Barna: Sam and Isaac, I love being with you guys. Good to be back.
Sam Rohrer: Before we get into the report, George, I do this every once in a while, but we may have a new listener today and they may not understand the primary reason, for instance, for research and all of that. You’ve devoted your entire life to research, analysis of research, looking at the attitudes and the values of Americans and particularly American Christians. But within that context, summarize if you would, the primary reason that you and the Cultural Research Center have undertaken this multi-year worldview research project. Could you do that, please?
George Barna: Well, sure, Sam. I mean, worldview I think is the most important thing for us to understand. And when I look at America, I would say, we don’t have an economic crisis. We don’t have a crime crisis, any of those things. We have a worldview crisis. And the only reason we can know that is by doing research which helps us understand the situation.
Now, why worldview? Because every decision that every person makes is based on their worldview. Everybody has a worldview. It’s the intellectual, emotional, and the spiritual filter that we have that determines how we experience and interpret and respond to the world. So we need a worldview to help us make sense of the world. We need a worldview to help us figure out who we want to be, who we think we are, how we think we’re doing, how we can be who we want to be.
But understand that there are a lot of different worldviews that people can choose from. And so what we’re trying to get people to do is to recognize that the most appropriate one of those worldviews to be relying upon or drawing from is what’s called a biblical worldview. And that’s especially important for Christians. Don’t think you’re a Christian, if you don’t have a biblical worldview.
And so our research through the American Worldview Inventory is geared to measuring the worldview choices of people in America. Which one of those different worldviews, whether it’s the biblical worldview, post-modernism, secular humanism, Eastern mysticism, whatever it is, which one are people choosing? And that’s ultimately important because it not only determines how you live and what you’re gearing your life towards, but as we look at our nation, and I think about the programs that you and Isaac and others are doing every day, you’re assessing what’s going on in the culture and you’re talking about the good or bad choices that we’re making in relation to different issues.
Well, those choices are based on the accumulated worldviews of Americans. And if we don’t like the direction that the country’s going, the only way we can really change it for good is to change the worldview that underlies those decisions. If we look at what government’s doing, we don’t like what the government’s doing, well, then we’ve got to look at the worldview of the people who are making those policy decisions. And instead vote in people who have a worldview that conforms to the policy choices that we think are more appropriate based on our worldview.
So we do this study every year measuring people’s worldview choices. And then I get the privilege of being able to talk about what we learn, so that we can actually fix whatever problems we have or celebrate whatever victories we’ve had.
Isaac Crockett: George, these assessments are just so helpful for all of us in ministry, for looking at ourselves, looking at others around us, what they believe. So this one, this release number two, is what you call the best starting point for developing a biblical worldview. You’re talking about these foundational things. Why is it important for people to see this as a starting point? And who is the audience that this is geared towards, if you could?
George Barna: Well, when we talk about a starting point, worldview really deals with all of the issues in your life. It deals with your entire understanding of and your complete response to life. So that’s a lot of ground to cover, Isaac, as you know. I mean you teach people from the pulpit about that constantly. And I’m sure you wrestle with the same thing about, “Wow, what do I teach now? How does it fit in with everything and what I want people to embrace?” So we need a good starting place.
Why? Because we want to build a strong foundation that we then expand upon. In the scriptures, Jesus himself talked about the importance of having a strong foundation. If you have a foundation of sand and you build a house on it’s going to get swept away when the wind and the rain comes. And it’s the same way with a biblical worldview, weak foundation, weak worldview. So we got to have a strong foundation.
And we’ve found that there are particular elements for that foundation, what we’re calling the cornerstones. That’s what we’ll talk about today. And this is important for every individual to know. Now, people may apply it differently, some people will teach about it. Some people will raise their children in accordance with it. Some people will have to look deep inside themselves, figure out who am I? What’s my influence on the world? Am I having a proper influence? We only know that by looking at worldview. So all of this is geared toward helping us understand what’s the best way to start building that strong foundation.
Sam Rohrer: Thank you, George. Ladies and gentlemen, you’re listening to Stand in the Gap Today. Dr. George Varna is our guest today, culturalresearchcenter.com is where the information we’re sharing can be found. Our theme is laying the foundation of a biblical worldview. You have a worldview, is it biblical? And if you don’t, well, we’re going to talk about those principles that when embraced will give you a biblical worldview.
According to the overview of this latest Cultural Research Center release entitled, what we’re talking about today, Laying the Foundation for a Biblical Worldview. There is a phrase that our special guest today, Dr. George Barna has included, I’m just going to read from that. It said, “Surprisingly, few people have a pure worldview, whether their choice of worldview is biblical theism or a biblical worldview, post-modernism, Marxism, Eastern mysticism, secular humanism, or another.”
Now the report goes on to say this “So how can a person develop a biblical worldview? How can they successfully think and act,” key word, “like Jesus? What beliefs are necessary to have a strong foundation for a biblical worldview? The answer is surprising, and that the required beliefs are basic Christian tenets not advanced or sophisticated theological constructs.”
I thought those were pretty powerful, George. They really put a lot of this together. On one hand, we’re dealing with something comprehensive and large, but at the same time we’re talking about some rather basic and simple principles. You talked about them as basic Christian tenets. Okay, so let’s just walk right into it if we can here, in the next two segments, I want to go through all of these. Yachi came up with seven that you said were comprehensive, so let’s get right into them.
You identify what you call cornerstone number one, and maybe you can even say why it’s a cornerstone when you answer here, but you say this, number one, “As an orthodox biblical understanding of God,” so that’s that. What does that mean in simple terms? Why did you identify this as number one in this process? And just out of curiosity, as we go through all of them, what percentage of Americans that you surveyed actually identify with this principle? So we’ll kind of follow this pattern as we walk through all seven.
George Barna: All right, well, Sam, this first idea of having an orthodox biblical understanding of God simply means that you believe that God is the all knowing, all powerful, perfect and just creator of the universe who still rules that universe today. So those are some basic attributes of who the God of scripture is. Nothing particularly deep, I mean, you can dive into each of those and there’s a lot that goes along with that. But understanding that He exists, how great He is, how good He is, that’s what we’re looking at here as the first of the cornerstones.
Now that sounds simple, but understand that that kind of belief in God has dropped from more than eight out of 10 people down to today, just 50%, just half of Americans believe that such a God exists. And the reason why that matters is because everything starts with God. We start with God. He created us. We are existing in His universe, at His pleasure. And so, really, it’s all coming back to well then we better understand the Creator, not only that He exists, but what’s His plan? What are His methods? What’s His nature? What’s His authority? How does He participate in our lives and in the universe He created?
And understand that if you don’t believe in God, if you reject this idea, either that any divine presence or superior power or universal power exists, well, much less, by the way, the God of Israel, then it’s highly unlikely that you’re going to believe in things like Jesus Christ, the Bible, sin, salvation, all the other things that flow from knowing who He is, what His plan is, what matters to Him. So that’s why that’s number one on the list, because if you don’t start with believing in that God, it’s going to be hard to build much of a foundation on what that God created and what that God expects.
Isaac Crockett: I love this because, you’re right, these things are simple, but they are so important and they’re often overlooked. And sometimes we just assume that somebody already knows these things and we have to start at the beginning, whether it’s here in our program talking about foundations for revival or 11 principles for national renewal. All of these things come back to the basics of our worldview, our biblical worldview.
And the number two, one is again, one of these basic things, but it’s so important and often overlooked, and you have it as the sinful nature of man. All human beings are sinful by nature. Every choice we make has moral considerations and consequences. Just out of curiosity, again, some of the same things here, why is this on this group of seven foundational things, it’s number two? How is it linked with the very first one? And is there a percentage of Americans that you’ve found in your surveys that do actually believe this important tenet?
George Barna: Well, you know Isaac, here, I mean, it’s important for people to understand the truth about themselves and about the world and about how life works, and particularly about this concept we call sin. The Bible teaches us that everybody is a sinner. We only know that if we go back to principle number one, and we understand that God is pure, God is perfect, God is sinless, God is holy. And so in comparison to Him, we are not that way. We are not little Gods as some philosophies or worldviews teach.
So everyone is a sinner. Those choices that we make, which cause sin to happen have implications, but those implications can only be determined by the one according to whom we can define sin, that being God. And so here again, we have that relationship between humanity and God. God has unchanging standards. And even though we may like to think of ourselves as being good, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is what God thinks, the Creator, the one who is the judge of all of those things that He created, including us. And so if He sees us as a sinner, we are sinners. Now, not many people buy that perspective. Currently, only 27% of the adult population in America would agree that everyone is a sinner and is susceptible to the consequences of sin.
Sam Rohrer: Well, you can see why it’s foundational. George, I’m looking right here, again, ladies and gentlemen, we’re talking about laying the foundation of a biblical worldview. You might think, “Oh, well, who needs that?” You may in your own mind think you have a biblical worldview, and you may, on the other hand, you may not. When the numbers that George has done over the years, it’s an incredible low number of people.
So go on to third one here, George. You identify cornerstone number three as this, the consequences of our sin can only be forgiven and eliminated through Jesus Christ. That forgiveness is available only by our personal sincere acknowledgement and confession of our sins and complete reliance on His grace for the forgiveness of those sins. Now, that sounds to me like we often refer to… That’s redemption, we had the Creator, creation, sin came into the world, this is all about redemption here on this point, isn’t it?
George Barna: It really is. And again, it’s helpful for us to think about the big picture. God deals with eternity. He has always existed. He always will exist. There’s no beginning to His time, no end to His time. We’re different. We’re a created entity. We have a limited period of time here on Earth, and then after we’re done on Earth, we will do something for the rest of eternity. And in the balance of that time, either we’re going to suffer because we’ll be away from His presence, our sins consequences will separate us from him eternally, or we’ll live in a state of joy because we get to be in His presence for the rest of eternity.
See, but what we know is that in America today, most people, literally, two out of three people in America are either trying to be good enough to earn God’s favor, which the Bible clearly tells us you cannot do. He tells us how we can have eternal salvation, but it’s not by being good enough, because we’re sinners. Remember point number two, cornerstone number two, we are sinners. Or there’s a growing number of people in America we’re finding who simply deny that there’s anything after we die on Earth. They think, “Poof, we’re gone. It’s all over. There is nothing else.”
So if you don’t believe in God, you’re not going to believe in Jesus Christ. You’re not going to believe, probably, in the concept of sin. And if you don’t believe as a sinner, you’re not going to accept the need of a savior. If you don’t believe that Jesus is God that He came here to save us, then we’ve got other issues. So this is why these things are important. They all build on each other.
And again, what we’re trying to do is build a framework, a foundation on which we can build the rest of our existence, the rest of our understanding of how to live. And so we’re here with only about a third of Americans who believe that, yes, we are sinners. The only way to address that though is to ask God to forgive us of our sins, and to believe that only because of His grace can we have that forgiveness, and have the opportunity to live with God in eternity after we’re done with our time here on Earth.
Sam Rohrer: Well, ladies and gentlemen, again, biblical worldview. We talk about that a lot. Many people think that they do or just think, “Well, if I go to church regularly, I will have a biblical worldview. Or as long as I’m concerned about, I like to read my Bible once in a while, or I pray once in a while, that’s make me so I have a biblical worldview.” Well, that’s not true. And these three points, these first three cornerstones we’ve laid out here are the part that, as George has found, a whole lot less people hold to these than you would think. They are, in fact, the foundation for a biblical worldview. When we come back, we’re going to continue on with four, five, six, and seven in this next segment.
Our guest today is Dr. George Barna. So if you’re just tuning in, you know where we’re going, we’re in the middle of asking him questions about the results of a second report that has come out of what they have referred to as the inventory of values of biblical worldview that they were putting together. And we’ve covered three. We have four more to go in this segment and some application in the next segment.
George, let’s get right back into it. What you’ve laid out so far have been really simple. Basically, God created, start with God. Sin came into the world, there was sin. The third one is that there’s hope, redemption through Jesus Christ. I just summarize that, because that’s what we’ve taken part of the essence of a biblical worldview of we’ve described it and put it in the form of some handouts and some bookmarks. All of you who are listening, if you send a note of any type, we’ll get you one of these. It’s really handy to have in your Bible as an example.
But George, the fourth cornerstone now building on the one basically saying, redemption, Jesus Christ, the answer to our sin problem, you identify number four as this, the entire Bible is true, reliable, and relevant, making it the best moral guide for every person in all situations. Okay, that’s pretty good. So in this age, George, when we know the truth has literally been thrown in the heap, it’s been thrown out of public discourse, it’s not happening in government, sadly, it’s not even happening in some cases in pulpits across the country, truth has just really taken a hit. So what percentage of Americans, according to your research, actually believe that the Bible is all true? Go there and kind of build this one out the same way, and why this is now then number four in this group of seven.
George Barna: Again, surprisingly for a nation that prides itself in some ways on being “Christian,” to find that less than half of all adults believe that the Bible is true, it is reliable, it is relevant, it is our best moral guide is, I mean, kind of shocking. Look how far things have fallen. And the reason why it matters so much Sam, is because this is God’s gift to us to help us thrive on Earth. He provided the Bible to us because He loves us, He wants to help us. So He’s giving us guidelines. He’s giving us a sense of how to have hope, how to have success in life, and to recognize that one of His character traits is that He doesn’t change. Not only doesn’t He go away, He’s eternal, but what He believes is right and wrong, and what He expects, His plan, none of that changes.
And so the Bible lays all of that out for us, and it gives us that unchanging consistent standard by which we have to live, in order to make the most of our life and to be able to be with Him forever. But what we’re finding out of our research is that people said, “Rather than go by that traditional, old, well-known standard, I’d rather rely on my feelings.”
And what we know, of course, not just from my research, but a lot of research done by psychiatrists, psychologists, sociologists, all kinds of people, is that feelings are unstable. They’re unpredictable. They can be manipulated. They change based on circumstances. Whereas the Bible defines for us absolute truths, their applications to how we live, and therefore, gives us the keys to how to believe and behave so that we can think and act like Jesus. That’s what a biblical worldview does. It enables us to be more Christlike. And understanding the Bible as a cornerstone is one of those things.
Isaac Crockett: George, these cornerstones are just so necessary. And again, for some of you listening, you might be thinking, “Well, don’t all people who claim to be Christians believe this?” No. This is why George is doing the research. This is why the Cultural Research Center is doing this, is to show us what we are actually believing in our churches and in this nation.
And so number five is about absolute truth. And I’ve seen this on the education side of things, whether it’s inside of the classroom, in public schools, looking at the curriculum in common core or even in continuing education courses. There’s a large university out of Philadelphia that I took grad work at that they were founded to be a Christian university and still claim some religious ties, and absolute moral truth just gets thrown out the window as an archaic concept that has died out back with the dinosaurs almost.
And you, right here, you say that, “Cornerstone number five is you believe that absolute moral truth exists, and those truths are defined by God, described in the Bible, and are unchanging across time and cultures.” Again, George, where are we looking at here? What kind of percentage of Americans did you find actually believe this foundational truth? And why did you put it on there? Why is it so important that it’s one of the foundational steps, it’s a cornerstone?
George Barna: Well, Isaac, this is one of those ones that’s really mind-blowing to me because we found that only one out of every four adults, just 25%, believe that there are absolute moral truths, that they exist, that they’re relevant, they’re defined by God, described the Bible, they don’t change. Most people believe that truth is something that they determine, not God, that they know what’s best for themselves and their life and the world around them. So it’s relative to the individual and the circumstances. Most people actually ordained themselves as the arbiter of truth. Which when you think about the cornerstones that came before this, it’s like, well, wait a minute, we’re not God, so we don’t know all things. We haven’t existed forever. We don’t have a good perspective on what’s taken place. We are sinners, so we get things wrong, clearly, according to God’s plan of things.
And so you put all these together, and essentially what we have in America today is with three out of four people thinking they know truth, and nobody else can tell them any different is truth has become a moving target. And you can see that as you’re suggesting, whether it’s in the classroom or the thing Sam was talking about related to public policies and how government operates, the fact that government and schools now are teaching a different morality than the Bible teaches. It all comes back to this thing of we no longer believe that God is the one who determines truth. He’s given us absolute moral truths that will guide our life to victory.
Sam Rohrer: And George, that leads us right into your number six, which is right there because it takes that, this is what you say, number six, “The ultimate purpose of human life is to know, love, and serve God with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul.” George, this culture is on the search for purpose and meaning. Okay, bring it down to this one. Once you’ve established God is and there’s sin, and Jesus Christ is there and there is truth, the Bible is that truth, and there is absolute truth, then the next one you bring up is this one, there is purpose in life. Put those together now.
George Barna: Well, this kind of flows along from that rejection of absolute moral truth, Sam, because what this one is, again, alluding to is we’ve become really selfish. It’s all about us. It’s not about God. It’s not about the one who created us for His purposes, and we find joy and meaning and purpose by understanding His will and following it.
We did a study last year with millennials across the country. Now, there are largest parenting generation in America, and what we discovered is that 75% of millennials say that they’re still searching for a sense of purpose in life. They don’t know why they should get out of bed in the morning. Well, it’s precisely for this reason. They haven’t embraced the fact that they are a created entity and they were created for a purpose, and God will explain, He will provide that purpose to you.
Instead, what Americans are doing is they’re embracing kind of a common the sense of what all humanity’s purpose is, which is happiness, which again is about satisfying self. It’s about our emotional needs and desires. So think about it. I mean, if the ultimate purpose is just to keep myself happy, then God’s principles really don’t matter, especially if I don’t believe there’s any absolute moral truth and that the Bible doesn’t contain it, and then I’m not really a sinner.
You can see how all of these things, if you go off base, even at one of these points, one of these cornerstones, you’re going to miss what’s going on. And we’re in a situation where only about a third of adults understand that Jesus Himself said, “Your purpose is to know, love, and serve God with all your heart, mind, strength, and soul.”
Isaac Crockett: George, I want to see if we can squeeze in that seventh cornerstone. You put that success on earth is best understood as consistent obedience to God in thoughts, words, and actions. Can you tell us a little about that?
George Barna: Yeah, I mean, very basically what’s happening is because we become so selfish, we define success in terms of what we do and what we feel, what we experience, what we want. And so we think about comfort, achievement, fame, acceptance as being the primary marks of success as opposed to, again, recognizing that God made us for His purposes. And so the more that we follow through on why He created us, in other words, the more consistent we are in obeying the truth principles that He’s given to us in His word, that guide book for life that helps us to be successful and helps us to feel good about who we are and our relationship with Him and our future, that’s really what success is.
He’s detailed the paths of obedience for us in His word, and our rejection of those things really shatters our relationship with Him. And again, just to give you the numbers on this, only 23% of adults in America believe that success is best understood as consistent obedience to God.
Sam Rohrer: Ladies and gentlemen, only a biblical worldview provides for consistency from the beginning and answers all the questions of life. Who am I? Why am I here? Where am I going? And provide that purpose only a biblical worldview does. When we come back, we’re going to make some application to these seven principles, to help you and all listening to actually implement these better.
All right, before we go into the final segment, make some application here, again, this report that we’re talking about today, the theme, Laying the Foundation of a Biblical Worldview. There are seven cornerstones that have come out of the most recent research released by Dr. George Barna in the Research Cultural Center there at Arizona Christian University. Their website is culturalresearchcenter.com, culturalresearchcenter.com. You can find that and a whole lot more information there. So I would encourage you to do that and go there.
Well, when it comes to the incorporation of basic principles leading to a biblical worldview, we’re taking these seven now that have been found by George and the cultural research team. There is the real question becomes, all right, now that we’ve identified these nuggets of gold, put it that way, these pillars of truth, these cornerstones, once you identify them all right, now, what do you do with them? And that’s always the real question. How do you take these and put them into action?
Maybe you have one or two of these established. A lot of people do, very few have all seven, and you really need all seven to have a biblical worldview. And then it goes in and applies to a whole range of everything else we do in our life. So let’s go here, George, if you don’t mind, an application in this regard seems to me that every individual has an ability to take and do it own evaluation in their own life according to these seven.
But there are people who are in positions of authority, for instance, a pastor, so let’s start there. Pastors are standing in the pulpit. They’re teaching biblical truth. These things ought to be a part of everything, it’s infused within sermons, but yet we know they are not. So speak to the pastor, challenge the teacher in adult Sunday school class, all of those who are standing in some capacity within a church, imparting, hopefully, the word of God speak to them in regard to implementing and taking these principles and putting them into effect.
George Barna: And let me just underscore the importance of going back to basics. And I know a lot of times pastors feel like, “Ah, I’ve already done that. I mean, these are adults that I’m working with. Why should I do that?” What we found is that only 3% of Americans embrace all seven of these very, very basic biblical teachings. And what difference does it make? We found that if you embrace all seven of them, there’s an 83% chance that you have a biblical worldview. If you do not embrace all seven of them, there’s only a 2% chance that you have a biblical worldview. So I mean, that to me demonstrates the importance of this.
We did a lot of statistical modeling trying to find out what are the different attributes that are most important? And these were the seven that emerged that, that give you that kind of an outcome. So I’d encourage pastors even to look at their own worldview. Last year, we did the big national study I talked with you about with pastors, and found that only 41% of senior pastors, 37% of all Christian pastors, whichever kind of pastoral role they fill have a biblical worldview. Most of them probably do not own all seven of these cornerstones.
So going back to basics is a critical thing. We can’t be seduced by the ways of the culture, which would encourage us to have different points of view on virtually all, if not all of these cornerstones. And once you’ve adopted all seven of these, then remember that one of the keys to impact as a teacher is repetition. And so it doesn’t mean that you don’t have anything to say to people. If you keep going back to the same core principles, you can use different stories, you can use different applications, you can use different scriptures, all kinds of different ways to package the same truths differently.
But you cannot afford to compromise those truths. You have to be reinforcing them rather than redefining them if you want people to retain them. And so that’s one of the keys here. And I’d also say, hopefully, pastors are mentoring individuals. And what we find is that in the discipling world, the discipling processes that I’ve been measuring, it’s that mentoring, that personal coaching kind of relationship through which people actually grow into being disciples. It’s not even so much from the preaching, from the classes, from the small groups. Those tend to accomplish other ends.
If you want people to get it theologically, it’s that accountability, that trust-based relationship, that real time feedback that actually changes the way that people think. Most people’s worldview doesn’t change much after the age of 13. If it’s going to change, often it takes some kind of a crisis event in a person’s life and a personal relationship, where they’re being coached to believe things differently.
Isaac Crockett: And that sounds so much like Jesus Christ, the way He took interest in people, especially His 12 disciples. And the very last great commission that He gave us, His last thing to do on Earth is to tell us to go forth and to do that mentoring, that discipling teaching what He has taught.
Sam, I want to go to you real quickly. I know you have some more questions for George, but just real quickly, all that George has been talking about with these cornerstone points, these foundational parts of biblical worldview, they remind me a lot of what we discussed on this program on a regular basis, but on a book that you have, America’s Roadmap for Renewal, could you just maybe mention some of the ways that this is overlapping together with that book?
Sam Rohrer: Be glad to Isaac, and I’m going to hold it up here. For those who are watching online. You can see the book. This book, America’s Roadmap to Renewal is available at Amazon. You can go there to get it and encourage you to do it, America’s Roadmap to Renewal. Actually, one of the comments on the introduction to this book was written by Dr. George Barna, and this is something that we’ve been talking much about. We have done, well, actually 11 radio programs, one on each of these 11 principles. Isaac and I have done 22, 30 minute TV programs, two programs on each of these principles. And the reason that we did it was because, believe it or not, these principles here that we have in this book, we’re adopted by our Founding Fathers.
See, the application of a biblical worldview is into every aspect of life. All of you are looking, we’re all seeing our freedom flee from us. Are we not? We’re seeing corruption in office, are we not? We’re seeing injustice disappear from the scene. Well, why is that? Well, it’s because people do not have a biblical worldview. Actually, the first three principles identified here, William Penn and Founding Father has identified in this book, first one is understand the nature and the role of God, just like George’s number one. Understand the nature of man, sin and depravity, principle number two. And then number three then comes from redemption in Jesus Christ. There is a way out of this.
And then everything else understand the purpose of law, the purpose of government, the necessity of understanding the definition of justice, and then walking through it. Our founders literally walk through a biblical worldview, taking these principles, these things that a fraction of the people now in America have, at one point in time, those who went into office, those who were in the pulpit of America, preached these things with great emphasis and clarity. So that we had a nation of people who understood that they were created by God in the nature of God, and life was sacred, and they knew that they were sinners from birth, and they needed Jesus Christ, but they knew they had the hope of eternal life.
And then from there, they knew that well, God, who created, also designed the concept of government, justice, the purpose for those who serve in government, how it’s going to be measured. And they literally went beyond and said, “If you can get this in place, how do you keep it? Christian education and prayer.” A biblical worldview was in place in America. This book takes all these things and put it… I’d encourage you to go there and find that America’s Roadmap to Renewal. You can do it there on Amazon.
Well, George, thank you so much for being here. You are helping, well, you’re helping to alert America. And our prayer is that those who are listening will examine themselves, and those in the pulpit will begin to preach. Isaac, thanks for being with me in the program. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being a part of this program today. God bless you. Stand in the Gap for truth this weekend.