Though the World Conspires, God’s Purposes Stand
April 24, 2024
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Hon. Michele Bachmann
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program originally aired on 4/24. To listen to the program, please click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to our midweek Stand in the Gap Today program. And it’s a very special program indeed today with special guest friend and the friend of God’s word and the kind of liberty that only comes from obedience to God’s word. And that’s quite a statement, but I believe that’s all to be true, and that’s the honorable Michelle Bachman, former congresswoman from state of Minnesota, as you know, a former candidate for President of the United States. She’s now down as dean of the Robertson School of Government with Regent University. And as I mentioned on Monday’s program, I said then that the Lord dwelling Michelle would be with me. And together we would give some comments and an analysis on three leading issues worthy of a biblically discerning analysis. And something I think all of you listening to me want to know about, fortunately she’s with me today, and we’re going to do that in just a moment.
But those areas are Israel the latest in regard to what’s happening right now in Israel, to Israel and as a result of Israel. And we’re going to break that up between our first and the last segments. Secondly, we want to provide and give some comments on the extraordinarily controversial and massive 95 billion in funding for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, and others. Ostensibly passed by the house on Saturday, not ostensibly it was passed by the house on Saturday and then during the midnight hours last night by the US Senate and now on its way to president. Lastly, we’ll update on the upcoming May 27 scheduled meeting of the World Health Organization where if nothing happens to prevent it, US sovereignty and that of the nations of the world are going to be handed over to the Marxist LED World Health Organization and the globalist antichrist led United Nations.
Now, one thread that’s going to run through our conversation today on these topics all will be God’s promise in Psalm chapter two, for instance, which says this in that passage that though God rejecting world leaders of all types will clearly conspire against God’s anointed, which is what Psalm two says, which the anointed includes. Obviously that’s Jesus Christ, primarily the life, the truth, and the way, but it’s also Israel, God’s anointed and true believers, Christians, the true church as anointed. They’re all God’s anointed and that will come together, but God’s promises and purposes will be established and it will bring to not these nefarious plans of man. So the title I’ve chosen for today’s conversation is this, though the world Conspires, God’s Purpose stands. And so stay with us. Call a friend if you want, because it’ll be a good program. And what that I welcome to the program Michelle Bachman, thanks so much for being back with me, Michelle.
Michele Bachmann:
Oh, I always look forward to our conversations. We are good friends in addition to being colleagues, and thank you for having me on your show today, Sam.
Sam Rohrer:
Well, it’s a real privilege to be able to say that and I want all the listeners to know the person you’re listening to. You know her, but she’s been here with me before. But it’s so difficult. I’m telling you right now in the world of politics and government and all of that to find a people who actually know what’s going on, have experience, but have the ability to look at things through a biblical worldview filter. And that’s why it’s so wonderful to have you, Michelle. Okay, two things. Let’s talk about Israel right here and get going. This is Passover week. It’s a big week. There have been multiple temps now by individual Jews to sacrifice a sheep or a goat on the temple Mount. Some were arrested yesterday, internal Security minister, Benny Vere got them released. But headlines I saw this morning, it was obvious to me that there are many who would, like for instance, to take that matter to exploit it and use it as to further harm Israel’s international image, stir up anger among Muslim extremists, weaken the Netanya ruling coalition and a whole lot more. So here’s my question. How do you see the political stability within Israel at this time? And how does this attempt to sacrifice perhaps during Passover affected?
Michele Bachmann:
Well, I think it was a distraction. Unfortunately when they tried to do that. Remember the temple Mount that is there right now, the next temple will be the temple that the antichrist desecrates and sits in. So this isn’t something that necessarily we’re excited about. It’s going to happen, a new temple that’s going to be built because the Bible foreshadows that that will happen. So to me, this is a distraction that the bigger fact that is happening right now is that there is an existential crisis that is happening in Israel. Israel is literally under attack and for our lifetime, we have never seen the means and the will come together globally for Israel’s enemies to attack her in such a way that she actually would be annihilated. Because what we need to understand is that that’s our Iran’s goal. The A of Iran wrote a book and it was called Palestine.
And in the book he said, within 25 years we will annihilate the Jewish state and we will kill all Jews in Israel. They’re very serious, they’re very open about what their plan is. In Tehran, there’s a park at Center Square called Palestine Square, and in that square they have erected the doomsday clock and they’re counting down to when they achieve their goal, they believe that Israel and all Jews will be killed by the year 2040. And so now they’ve been working overtime to try and create a nuclear bomb. And I’ve just reading articles yesterday stating that the intelligence estimate from the International Atomic Energy Agency is that literally Iran isn’t years away from having enough sile materials to activate a nuclear weapon. They’re literally weeks away. So we’re seeing capabilities come to bear in the conversation exactly when the energy among various nations is coming against Israel, including in the United States.
So events are converging in a way that we haven’t seen before. So these other distractions are merely that we need to keep our eye on the fact that the God of Israel has the strong right arm. He will preserve and protect Israel. But at the same time, we as believers in Jesus Christ, no matter what country you’re from or where you’re listening to this show from, it is we are told the same thing from the book of Genesis. And that is our job as believers is to bless Israel and bless the Jewish people and not to curse them. And when we see in the case of the United States, our government literally, I’ve never seen this before in my lifetime, but Sam, now we are seeing it just in the last few weeks, the Biden administration is taking off their team, Israel, jersey, and they’re putting on the team, Iran, jersey because not necessarily always from their words, but from their actions. The United States of America is taking Iran side and advocating for Iran side. And I remind you, Sam, and your audience, that since 1979, the United States has designated Iran as the chief state sponsor of terrorism in the world. And so who is it that the United States is blessing right now? Our government and our state department is blessing Iran, the sponsor of terrorism,
Sam Rohrer:
Not Israel. And with that, Michelle, that’s perfect set up ladies and gentlemen. We’ve talked about it so many times. You’re hearing it from the honor, RHEL Bachman again, we’re shifting. America is shifting, and whenever that happens, the judgment of God comes against the enemies of God and the enemies of Israel are the enemies of God. That’s connection. You got that. We understand the situation. Now when we come back, we’re going to shift and begin to have some discussion on this $95 billion foreign aid Bill, what was in it? Who won? Who lost?
Well, if you just joining us today, thank you for being apart. I just heard from a station manager. He carries about 18 stations that carry this program down in the Texas, Oklahoma area and just said how thankful he was for this program telling the truth. And so I thank him, I just texted him.
But thank you all for being apart today. If you’re just joining us, our theme is though the world conspires, God’s purposes stand. And that’s an important thing. Keep in mind as we see a world that is lifting, its arrogant fists against God’s definition of morality and what is right and wrong. We see it happening all around us, but don’t be so concerned about that. That’ll happen. But God’s purposes stand. My special guest is the honorable Michelle Bachman and so glad to have her with me. So we’re going to move into this other area because not long ago the US Congress passed a multi-trillion dollar spending bill. You remember that authorized over trillions of dollars. It just added more and more to the US debt. And by any evaluation, no matter how you cut it, it’s bringing the us, our nation, America, so close to insolvency that point where even the interest on the debt is unable to be paid for by tax dollars.
And that debt now is just under 35, 30 $5 trillion. When that happens, everything changes, the dollar goes kaput, retirement accounts change, all kinds of things. But on Saturday, the US has passed then in an additional and very controversial $95 billion foreign aid package that would send nearly 60 billion to Ukraine, about 17 billion or so to Israel, and then sum to Taiwan, another amounts that were scattered around and add up to a fairly big amount. Now during the nighttime hours, the US Senate passed the funding bill by a vote of 79 to 18. And that’s either been already signed by Joe Biden or it will be yet today. Now Michelle, as a former US House member and myself, 18 year member of the Pennsylvania House, I served on our appropriation committee, I think for 16 of those years. We know how appropriation bills, I’m going to put this way often become magnets for greed, tools of coercion and bribery.
Everything gets loaded up in those kinds of things. Now that being said, I’d like to get your comment as to actually what really came out of this bill who won. If you put that perspective, because with every bill, there’s somebody who wins and or somebody who doesn’t like it. But here is a comment from EPOCH times this morning, and here’s what I’d like you to comment on. It says this, the aid packages final clearance through Congress marked a win for President Biden Democrats and more hawkish Republicans supporting Ukraine aid. But conservatives have decried the package for its billions to Ukraine and lack of border security measures. Alright, now, however you want to answer that, but Michelle, what aspect of freedom or moral truth or constitutionally consistent values, all those are kind of wrapped up in that what actually won? Who in what actually loses in this type of a package that’s passed?
Michele Bachmann:
Well, who loses is freedom and options. So we are on the older side of life now. We’ve had our children, grandchildren in some cases, but for our children and our grandchildren, for those who are yet unborn, they’ve just had options taken away from them because I want to provide context. Sam, no other nation in the history of the world has ever had the level of indebtedness that the United States has. Listen to this, everyone pay attention. When I came into the US Congress and I came in January of 2007, the United States was somewhere between six and $8 trillion in debt. And we thought that was the end of the world, six and 8 trillion. And it took us 225 years to get to that point. Now, in just a short leap of time, we’re adding 1 trillion of indebtedness to the United States debt. Every 100 days. Every 100 days.
It wasn’t that long ago that budgets for the entire United States government were under a trillion dollars and we’re adding that level for the entire government under a trillion. And now we’re adding that level of indebtedness, not spending in indebtedness every 100 days. So what this is doing is ensuring collapse. And this is one thing that everyone needs to know. Math always wins. So think about your own bank account. Think about your own wallet. If you make a hundred thousand dollars a year and you’re spending $300,000 a year and you don’t have any savings to draw from very quickly your party is going to come to an end. And in the United States, that day of reckoning will come. And that’s why this is so horrible. But in this particular situation, realize we borrowed every single dime that we’re giving away to foreign countries. We are borrowing over 95 billion, giving that indebtedness to our children and our grandchildren.
They have to pay it off. And so not 1 cent is going to the United States to our people, all 95 billion plus is going to foreign countries. But here’s what’s even worse, and let me just say this. We gave $113 billion already to Ukraine. The money isn’t accounted for. We know for a fact it was stolen by Kleptocrats. We know for a fact that it was. So here we have the 60 billion when it was given last time, the 113 billion. We also know that Ukraine, the poorest country in Europe, the most corrupt country in Europe, somehow in the middle of a war when they didn’t have any money to do anything, they managed to have billions of dollars sitting around so that they could buy cryptocurrency from Sam Bankman freed from his company called fx. Guess what Sam Bankman free did. He is sitting in jail right now from fraud. So Ukraine bought billions of dollars worth of cryptocurrency. And Sam Bankman free was the largest donor to the Democrat party reelection effort in 2022. So his fraud was 20 times worse than Bernie Madoff. He’s now sitting in jail as he should be, but he is had a lot of charges thrown out. He’s serving a much reduced sentence. So this money will go to fund, in my opinion, the reelection of Democrats. That’s why they were waving Ukraine flags.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, so we got a laundry operation, so we got a problem. Lemme come back and ask this question. Get your thought on it. I mean, I have my own, but see what you think. But here is an example where Israel needs aid is our friend, therefore, and that’s how these votes are garnered. There’s a group who support Israel and we should, and there’s a group who supports Ukraine and a large group who doesn’t want to, but we got to do that. And so they put all these things that makes votes difficult, doesn’t it? But I guess here’s the question. Should we be borrowing 17 billion to help our friends Israel or is there another way?
Michele Bachmann:
Well, we shouldn’t be hogtied and threatened by having to spend all this money in order to give money to Israel. We could have easily given money to Israel right after October 7th. Instead, Joe Biden took a very rich check and he gave it to Hamas. He should have been giving it to Israel. Genocide was just committed to them. So can we give money to them? Yes we can, but we need to get our house in order. It shows how out of whack we are. And interestingly, in the early morning hours this morning as we’re recording that most pro-Israel senators in the Senate, the Republicans, many of them didn’t vote for this funding. Even though they love Israel, they want to give money to Israel and would give money to them. But they saw how bad this bill was and they took actually a fairly courageous vote and they voted no.
And no one can question their pro-Israel credentials. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Josh Hawley go down the line. But they said, this is going to be hurtful plus the fact when you launder money, and I am telling you it’s going to come out in the future, that money was laundered to fund the Democrat elections this fall. I can’t prove it, it’s just an opinion that I’m giving. But it happened in 2022 and I think there’s every reason to believe it will happen again. Why in the world else would these Democrats be waving the Ukrainian flag? They saw this was their gravy trade to get reelected, and they thought that the American taxpayer were good enough to pay for their reelection. And it was one of the most foolish, dreadful decisions that the Republicans made to pass this bill because I believe it was a subterfuge to pay for Democrats reelection.
Sam Rohrer:
And I think that, but again,
Michele Bachmann:
That’s an opinion. I don’t have proof.
Sam Rohrer:
Well, I know that’s an opinion.
Michele Bachmann:
My proof is 2022 with what Sam Bankman free did. He was the largest donor to the Democrats for reelections in 2022.
Sam Rohrer:
Well, that’s what I’ve always said. Look who’s the primary supporter. And even as that said, the winners, the winner was Joe Biden who wants this money for what purpose you can guarantee. And all the others, and ladies and gentlemen think of this, support for Israel does not always have to take financial support frankly. Look what we have done as an America, Obama administration, as the Biden administration has given billions of dollars, freed up billions of dollars to Iran, the enemy, and to Hamas. And as I said before, who paid for the billions of dollars to build the Hamas tunnels under the Gaza? Huh? Who do you think that came from? Alright, if we wouldn’t support our enemies, wouldn’t require nearly as much to support our friends. Sometimes you got to focus on what’s happening and dollars and cents are not the only way you exhibit support.
And in this case, it’s very clear why so many good people are upset at that package. Anyways, we’re going to go from that topic and jump to an upcoming meeting. The World Health Organization, may 27, a critically important meeting. Michelle was there for the one a year ago and we got updates on what’s expected likely to happen perhaps just a few weeks from now. Well, not more than a month away on May 27 if you’re really in the spot. A lot of your listeners to this program are aware of what’s happening that date. But the general public is clueless, but the World Health Organization is scheduled to meet in what is expected to be a transfer, a final, once it’s done, it’s done a transfer of national sovereignty from individual nations around the world, including America to this organization, world Health Organization for in general the purposes of well providing for a, they would say a more consistent and responsive structure to deal with, as they say, predicted and known future health pandemics and other things.
And they’ve now thrown climate change into that as well, that in danger they say the citizens of the world and necessitates a global response. It sounds so good what they’re talking about, but it’s frankly such a lie. Michelle, you were with me at the end of last year. A couple of times we’ve recounting because you were at that meeting, I think it was May, 2023. You were about the only one that was there. You tried to get congressmen and others to go and nobody went. And you’re probably the first person who raised the alarm bells about what was done then and what is scheduled in their estimation to be consummated. I’m going to say in their opinion, in a few weeks. So here’s the question. Would you summarize in simplest terms what is scheduled to occur and the greatest threats to freedom that are inherent within this May 27? Who meeting if what they expect to be passed is passed? Michelle, are you there? Hello, Michelle? Well, I wonder where Michelle is, but I’m hoping that we can.
Michele Bachmann:
Sam, I’m here. Can
Sam Rohrer:
You? There you go. There you go. Did you hear my question?
Michele Bachmann:
Yes, I heard your question. Sorry. Sorry for that technical problem. So yes, what is the World Health Organization came into people’s conscious through covid. We all heard about it because they made recommendations. Shut down churches, shut down schools, wear masks, get a covid vaccine. That’s what people heard about them. What are they? The World Health Organization is the healthcare arm of the United Nations and they wielded the most important international authority the world has ever seen. And so they saw that this worked so well. And the goal of the United Nations has always been to be global government. They’ve always wanted to have a one world global government. And so they’ve been pushing through changing the rules that govern the World Health Organization to have all nations, all 193 nations of the world that meet every end of May in Geneva Swift Road. They want them all to agree to give over essentially what’s national sovereignty to them over healthcare decision making.
So the acting director, a man named SIUs who’s the head of the World Health Organization, he would then have the authority to call for a public health emergency of international concern. Once he makes that designation, then he would have the power to tell countries what they can and cannot do that’s being promoted. The new latest version of the rules that they want to pass in May they have one event that they really want to pass one amendment and it’s this, they want to give the World Health Organization the right to restrict international travel. That’s what a communist totalitarian regimes do. They restrict the freedom to travel of individuals. They want to get that into place. They want all nations to agree to that, to give them the right to be able to control and restrict international travel. They would reframe it differently, but that’s the bottom line of the impact of what would happen.
And to do that, everyone look at your cell phone right now, they would do it through your cell phone and on your cell phone. You didn’t have to show a QR code. So if you decided your church wanted to go down to Bolivia and build a school, you’d have to have a QR code on your phone that said that you had all the vaccines and booster shots that the World Health Organization says that you have to have. You’re wearing a mask, you’re following all of their compliance. They want to get that through, but there’s something even more that they’re envisioning. And I want to encourage your listeners, Sam, we haven’t had time to talk about this, but if anyone goes to the United Nations website, go to their search engine type in Summit of the Future website, summit of the future, they’re very bold. They’re going to be meeting the third week of September in New York City.
Every leader of the world will be there. And what they want to do is they want to put every nation in handcuffs, basically golden handcuffs so that they will be restricting the rights of nation. So your audience has been so effective in contacting your legislators that I think that now at the World Health Organization, they’re a little skittish. They don’t think they’re going to be able to get all these amendments through, so they only want to get this one amendment through that will restrict our right to travel. But they’re planning, if you go to the UN website again, type in summit of the future, you’ll see this meeting that’s being planned and they’re very naked, very open in what they intend. They talk over and over about global governance. They say, we already know what our goals are. We have the UN charter, we have the International Agreement on human rights, we have the Paris Climate chart, a treaty.
We’ve got about five, six documents. We already know what our goals are. Now it’s the how. So we want to make sure we get everybody in golden handcuffs in September so that all nations agree. And it will probably be through the Security Council, the UN Security Council, because that isn’t all 193 nations. That’s just about five six nations. They know they’ve already got the Biden administration on board. And so they want to get these five, six nations at the UN Security Council to agree with their goals. So pray about the end of May, the World Count World Health Organization meeting and then pray what the UN intends for the end of September. You’re right, Sam, I was present in 2023 this year I will be in Jerusalem. I encourage everyone to do what Sam and I have done. The Jerusalem Prayer breakfast will meet in Jerusalem this year.
It is a very high priority that we meet to pray for the piece of Jerusalem. So you can go to Jerusalem prayer breakfast.org, sign up, come to Jerusalem, meet with us, sign up to attend. Online is very important. We pray for the priest of Jerusalem. And isn’t it interesting, we had chosen the state a year ago for the Jerusalem Prayer breakfast and the World Health Organization moves their date to also be May 27th. So the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast and the World Health Organization is meeting the same date. And I’m the co-chair of the Jerusalem Prayer Breakfast. So I will be present in Jerusalem, praying for the peace of Jerusalem, will be praying against the success of what the World Health Organization wants to do. And I encourage everyone, order Jerusalem prayer breakfast.org, sign up, either come to Jerusalem and pray and meet with us or join us online. It’s very important that we pray together for that meeting. Alright?
Sam Rohrer:
Absolutely. It is Michelle Soles and gentlemen, you know what to do, pray against as we should. We resist evil. We pray against that which is evil, that which is the goal of the United Nations, the Security Council, world Health Organization that is evil because it all moves towards a antichrist global government. So that’s how it fits into the big picture. So we oppose it even though we know what will occur. Ultimately you have global government. We know that biblically, even though we know that we don’t sit on our hands, we work to oppose because in that process we see the hand of God able to work, we exercise faith, we occupy till he come. We do the things that we must do, not walk away and give up because we know how it’s going to end up in the end. I understand what I’m saying. Alright, Michelle, a couple of minutes left. The Biden administration is all on board on this. You have said at this juncture, go back and restate it unless there is some divine action that makes the meeting not occur or something of that type. How likely is it that this vote that they intend to accomplish there is accomplished? Are you saying that all they really want out of that is the travel restriction ability? Rephrase that and go back there.
Michele Bachmann:
Well, I’ve listened recently to videos of the head of the World Health Organization and it looks to me if he can be believed, what he’s saying is that they have narrowed down their agenda for what they want to get through. And I think that’s because they’ve had a lot of trouble because I think people have been very effective calling their legislators. But they do want to get this control on movement through for sure. There are other amendments that they want to get through too. But it’s interesting how they have kind of rescheduled and reframed the UN meeting in New York City. The third week of September has been kind of the cleanup campaign to achieve their goals. Their goals are the same and how they want to do it, they still want to achieve that goal and they intend to do it this year before the United States election.
And I think quite frankly, they’re afraid that Donald Trump will win this fall and if he wins, the United States will get out of the World Health organizations, he will be fund them, he will pull us out of it. And so I think they want to pass something through the Security Council at the United Nations so that President Trump can’t undo it. So they’re six steps ahead of time because they’re committed to achieving their goal, but they can’t be ahead of the power of prayer. And that’s why the believers can pray against success at the World Health Organization May 27th and Geneva, and we can pray against success the third week of September at the United
Sam Rohrer:
Nations. Alright, excellent, excellent. Michelle And ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to be talking more about these things, particularly the event there in September in the weeks ahead. But when we pray, we pray for that which would reflect God’s will and we end with saying, nevertheless, not my will father but yours because God’s greater plan is being worked out. But we pray and we work towards the exaltation of that which is righteous. That’s our duty. We’ll come back and conclude with more about Israel. Alright, we’re already about ready to wind up the program, but we have quite a bit yet to do so stay with us. Michelle, I want to go back to you. We started with Israel and I want to conclude with Israel. We’ll do that here in just a moment. But here’s a question. The Biden administration has been, you talked about it perhaps the most dangerous to Israel of any administration, but some would say could spin it Well, but he’s been the most helpful to them because look, we just gave him 17 billion aid Bill and then the Biden decision though then they did this and this one I want to ask you a question on for the first time ever, I think of anything like this happened to a friend, they sanctioned the military, the Israeli Defense forces, at least a portion of it for unverifiable causes.
And I think it goes beyond the payout, my own personal opinion, but so do Israeli leadership. And as I said on a recent program, I frankly see little difference between Iran viewing Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis and others as their stooges because they wholly owned them and they are proxies. And that as compared to Joe Biden, and I’m going to say the globalist generally who don’t really like Israel, but they view Israel as their own wholly owned and dependent proxy. That’s my sense. Now, what’s your response to the Biden administration playing literally both sides of the fence appearing to support Israel on one hand, but then cutting off their legs, appearing to condemn Hamas, but then funneling vast amounts of funding to them. And now this sanctioning of IDF soldiers, your thoughts?
Michele Bachmann:
Well, you stated it quite well. It’s do we believe their actions or do we believe their words? And I think the actions have been incredibly powerful coming from the Biden administration. And really a lot of these actions have come out of the State Department. The Secretary of State is Anthony Blinken, and I think what we’re seeing in the State Department is the State Department American policy toward Israel has been run by pro Iranian sympathizers. It’s very hard to believe, but it’s true. Robert Malley was in the Obama administration. He was put in charge of America’s Middle East policy. Robert Malley, just weeks before the October 7th genocide against the Jews was suspended from his position. Again, this is no small cry. He was in charge of Biden’s Middle East policy. And why was he suspended? Because he allegedly transferred classified information from the US to Iran.
So that’s who was running our Middle East policy, Iranian sympathizers. Why are we seeing Iranian policies? Because that’s the personnel that Joe Biden chose to put in charge of the Middle East policy. So the United States is not only funding the pro Iranian side, we’re also, we are essentially the advocates for the Iranian policy. That’s why I said in a fairly dramatic statement that Joe Biden has taken off the pro-Israel jersey. He’s put on the pro Iran jersey, whether he knows it or not, that’s what his state department is doing. And that’s why it’s so imperative that we get people who understand Israel, who understand foreign policy to serve in these positions. This has been a huge gap for years. We don’t have people who are getting undergrad degrees, master’s degrees, PhD degrees, who understand a biblical worldview perspective. You’re doing that through your radio show and through Christian education.
I’m a dean here at Regent University for instance. We’re a biblical world university. We teach from a pro-Israel perspective and we are offering our undergrad, our master’s, and now a PhD program. We want to bring people into the school and train them. This is necessary. You don’t have other universities that are teaching the truth about Israel. This is overdue. So we’re launching now an Israel Institute so we can train PhDs and get them into the State Department, into the Department of Defense, into the Pentagon. We need to get people who are credentialed to know what’s going on because of what you just brought up.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and Michelle, I said that’s excellent. I’m just going to hold it right there because that’s so much good information. But I need to shift because I want to end up with this and that is this. We started by saying though the world conspires, the Joe Bidens, the globalists, the who’s the world economic foreign people, the Chinese, the Russians, the Iranian, all of them, they’re conspiring together against what’s the common thing? They’re against God and God’s anoint. That’s what he started with. But in many Old Testament passages, the Lord says his purposes will prevail. Now here’s my question as we wrap it up, and that’s this, we discussed briefly what is happening in Israel. We talked a bit about the Passover and some things happening there until forth. What’s happening to Israel? Talked about Joe Biden here and Iran and the enemies around them. But let’s shift because it goes to the Prophetical piece in what you’re just talking about and that is, what can we expect to happen in our global future, American future perhaps, or a world feature, whatever, as a result of Israel, as we see God shift the world’s attention back to Israel?
Michele Bachmann:
Well, we talked about this earlier, really off air, and it’s where we at in God’s time clock as we see the pressure being put on Israel. Isn’t it interesting? All of the countries of the earth, 193 countries and the whole spotlight is on Israel right now and especially with Jerusalem. So what this tells us is that fig leaf is starting to bud and we need to pay attention to God’s time clock and to know that we’re within his will. We also know, looking back at the Book of Genesis and the covenants that God created, that Israel is intended to be a blessing to all families on earth, all families on earth. And so those who bless will be blessed. Those who curse will be cursed. And so we need to recognize that this is our moment. God sovereignly allowed us to be alive. Now, our posture is, am I being a blessing to Israel or am I cursing Israel?
Whether it’s through the people I know what I’m saying, what I’m watching, what is my church’s response? What are my children learning in school? Are my children protesting on university campuses? Maybe I need to educate my children. This is an extremely important time. And so again, God’s word doesn’t change. It’s being fulfilled. And as we’re watching prophecy be filled before our eyes fulfilled, then we need to know God, how can you use me to be a part of what you want done in the world? Israel? God is going to have Israel in the very last breath. When you look at the last chapter in the Bible, in the Book of Revelation, it’s all about the new Jerusalem. So God will have his throne forever in Jerusalem. And we need to make sure that we understand the word of God. More than anything, I would say people need to spend more time in the Word of God. Use your Bible app, listen to your Bible in the car. When you’re walking along the way, talk about it to your children because we are literally witnesses of history and the history is centered on Israel. And again, it’s on Israel being a blessing to every family on earth.
Sam Rohrer:
All right, Michelle. Okay, we’re right at the end. Can you pray in 30 seconds, praying 30 seconds and close.
Michele Bachmann:
Oh, father, you are the God of Israel, and I pray right now, father, that you would speak to our mind, speak to our hearts, speak to our spirit, that we come in alignment with your word for the purposes of advancing your kingdom on this world. Lord, you are, your return is coming and so we agreed with your word. It is yay in amen. Remove the sin from our lives and instead, father, bring us into alignment with your purposes. In Jesus’ name I pray, amen.
Sam Rohrer:
Amen. Amen. Thank you. The honorable Michelle Bachman, thank you so much for being with us in the insight that God has given Godly wisdom. Good perspective, ladies and gentlemen. Alright. You heard the lay of what’s happening At the end of the day, men conspire, but God’s purpose stands. Make sure we’re anchored in God’s word. Stand there firmly and then we can watch things unfold with just a marvelous appreciation of who God is.
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