Steadfast and Secure:
Recent Betrayals Remind Us that Israel’s Protection comes from God
June 3, 2024
Host: Dr. Isaac Crockett
Guest: J.R. McGee
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program originally aired on June 3, 2024. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Isaac Crockett: Welcome to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and some of you maybe recognize me from the Friday programs or from Stand in the Gap tv. And so I pastor up here in the northern part of Pennsylvania and I live just across the border in New York state and I’m excited to be on today. Sam won’t be with us, but we are going to be with one of our good friends, JR McGee. And I know that many of you who listen to us regularly comment about how much you like these programs when we talk about security with jr. So jr, welcome to the program. Thanks so much for being on with me, especially since Sam isn’t even here. We’re really glad that you would be on with us today.
JR McGee: It is always a pleasure to speak with you and the team and to be a member of Stand In the Gap and especially with the family that the audience has become Isaac.
Isaac Crockett: Well, Jr I know, again, like I said, many people know you very well because you are on here regularly. You’re a go-to guest and an expert in the security areas here and your analysis on things is so appreciated. But could you maybe give us a little bit of a background on yourself? Just kind of introduce yourself for somebody who maybe is tuning in for the first time.
JR McGee: I’d be glad to. I started in the Air Force in the 1970s. I worked somewhere in the middle of Nevada. I didn’t meet any aliens, but it was an incredibly interesting place to work. I was the lead engineer on the team that borrowed, I’m sure we’re going to give ’em back someday because it’d be stealing if we didn’t, but we reverse engineered Russian surface to air missile and air-to-Air missile systems and used those to train fighter pilots and how not to get shot down. And over the years I worked my way up to being program manager of some of the world’s most sophisticated training facilities for the Air Force, the Navy, the Marine Corps. And then after my injury, I was injured in a cannon Shell explosion. It took two years to rehab, but after that, as a civilian, I became involved in the intelligence community building on what I used to do with Russian equipment, providing intelligence both national and space base to war fighters.
JR McGee: I’ve been in that business now for close to 40 years and God has blessed me tremendously to be able to work with seals, Delta Secret Service, just all kinds of absolutely wonderful organizations. And I’ve been able to develop some skills and talents at being able to see things and have insight that God has allowed me to compare that with the Bible to give us an accurate assessment of what we’re seeing and dealing with today in kind of a unique way. And it’s truly a gift from God. I’ve been blessed. It’s not me. It’s the people that I’ve been allowed to be around and the opportunities God’s given me to work with some extraordinary people and they are the special ones.
Isaac Crockett: Well, JR thank you so much. You’ve been a gift to this program and to our listeners. And today as we talk about some of these things, I love talking with you and hearing your programs with Sam usually because you do have that experience, that history, that understanding that Lord has given you of strategies of international strategies as well as national, but also you have a biblical worldview. And so we see God’s providence and you understand God’s providence in it all. And even today as we talk about this being steadfast and secure and seeing ways that people are betraying Israel, we still see the hand of God in it and we are reminded that we have to trust him. And so I want to just jump right into this. JR looking at world leaders, maybe mostly even our own leadership with the Biden administration, what do you see that they are doing when it comes to standing for Israel right now? We get a lot of different messaging going on, but what do you see that they’re rarely doing when it comes to standing for Israel or standing for their enemies like Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran in general?
JR McGee: It’s amazing to watch all this unfold before our very eyes, but the world and especially the Biden administration right now is doing everything possible to protect Hamas, heah, the Houthis, and ultimately Iran. It’s completely different than nine 11. We’re now working to protect the terrorist organizations. Now every single rocket and drone that’s launched against Israel is specifically targeted against civilian men, women and children because they’re not guided and that’s a war crime. Yet the world is remaining astonishingly quiet about that and all of the focuses on Israel and what they’re doing wrong. And yet the Palestinians are specifically targeting men, women, and children just like they did on October the seventh. Now just in the last day or so for the second time, the Biden administration has tried to trap Israel into having to accept an extremely poor peace treaty with Hamas. And they’re using some fairly deceptive tactics.
JR McGee: They’ve announced to the world that Israel presented this proposal and then the United States and the UN brokered the agreement with Cutter. And what’s actually occurred is what’s been agreed to is nothing like the proposal that Israel submitted. There’s drastic gaps in this that are not being talked about. And what they’re trying to do is once again set this up so that Hamas survives and continues to be able to threaten Israel. Now, what I find to be extraordinary in all of this, Isaac, is there’s five Americans who are still hostages of Hamas and there’s three dead bodies of Americans who were killed on October the seventh who are still held by Hamas. And more than 30 Americans were slaughtered by Hamas on October the seventh. And yet the American government is doing absolutely nothing to secure the relief. These American hostages, some of us are old enough to remember President Carter.
JR McGee: And when Iran held 51 American hostages for 444 days and every day that was on the news that Americans were being held hostage. And today almost nothing is said about the Americans who are being held hostage by Hamas, much less the Israelis that are being held hostage by Hamas, they just found seven more dead bodies. I’m afraid that that death toll is going to climb because I don’t think that Hamas sees it in their self-interest to give back live hostages who can testify against them at a potential war crimes investigation. So there’s some really serious things going on that just don’t make a lot of sense. And Israel is doing a remarkable job at trying to thread the needle between continuing to take the battle to Hamas and Hezbollah and yet trying to satisfy world opinion by going through all kinds of hoops to open up aid channels, to secure refugee centers, to provide for medical care for the refugees in Gaza, unlike anything that we’ve seen in modern military history. And I’d like to go into that in a little more detail in the second segment, but Israel is being handicapped at every level, and yet we fail to realize what the true evil is that’s taking place and how we need to deal with it. It’s unlike anything that we’ve ever seen before.
Isaac Crockett: Well, and when it comes to warfare, so much of it comes back to the information or lack thereof or the twisting of it. And so many of you who are listening right now, you listen to this program because you want to hear the truth like we’re hearing right now and what you’re saying jr, it makes so much sense. I was just reading missionary letters from friends of ours in Israel and they were talking about the people and the citizens after these attacks from the enemies and how they’re reacting. And I didn’t even think about that, how that’s the war crimes, and yet we’re seeing all these protesters against Israel. So we want to get to the truth of this. We want to talk to you, we want to talk about the tactics, what’s really going on as opposed to the optics of what you might see in the media or you might not see.
Isaac Crockett: And so there’s a lot more to do, a lot more to pick your brain on JR when we come back. But we want to look at Israel and the tactics that they have as they approach a mosque. We’ll be right back on Stand in the Gap today. Well welcome back to our Monday program here in Stand In the Gap Today. I’m Isaac Crockett and I’m talking with a regular guest of ours on the program, JR McGee and Jr. You kind of opened up a little bit of what’s going on in Israel and some of the tactics that are happening against them. You were saying in comparing, and again, it’s eyeopening when we look at historical context, but not that long ago just under the Carter administration, when there were American hostages in for over a year, that was all that we heard on the news you were reminding us.
Isaac Crockett: And I was born later than that. I was born when President Reagan was president, but I remember that he was a very strong president when it came to military presence and that he was able to get things done and people believed him when he said that, don’t mess with us because of the logic and the tactics that he used. Could you maybe as we get ready to talk about Israel and the strategy they’re doing right now, even in Rafa, could you maybe just focus a little bit on our current administration with the Biden administration, what they are doing, the tactics that they are using, not to help Israel win against Hamas, but to try to force them, you said into a peace deal that they’re saying that was Israel’s idea. But you said when you look at the paperwork and things, it’s not at all the peace deal that Israel was asking for
JR McGee: Isaac. It’s kind of remarkable. And both of my advanced degrees are in strategy, strategic thinking and strategic leadership. And as I’m looking at the strategy that’s going on, it is three separate strategies. And you mentioned Reagan. And Reagan was a favorite president of mine for a lot of different reasons. His strategy was the one that the United States really focused in on until the end of World War ii. And that strategy is we win, they lose. It is utterly simple but incredibly powerful because it tells you exactly what the outcome is and what the off-ramp is. And nowadays, there are two other strategies that are at play. One is, we talked about this with Sam in a show just recently, and that is that the United States has pursued since the Korean War, a process called proportionality. We only want to attack at the same strength as the enemy does.
JR McGee: We only want to equal them. And the thought process is if we don’t present a threat to somebody, then we can find a way to live together and that there’s no more conflict. Unfortunately, that strategy sounds unique, but it’s never worked in the history of man because one side always wants to win. We’ve done that from Korea, Vietnam, we did it in Iraq, we did it in Afghanistan, and now we’re currently trying to force Israel to accept a failed strategy, a proportionality. We only want the Israelis to go at the Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran with the same level of force that they go against them and you can’t win with that strategy. And the third strategy that is becoming more and more predominant is a strategy that says we want to be weaker than our opponents because if we’re weaker, there’s no way they can view us as a threat and then we can adapt a socialist government and we can achieve the utopia where we all live together in harmony. Again with human nature, that’s never going to work. So these are the three strategies that are at play on the world stage today with governments and one is we win. The other one is we only operate equally to what you do, and the third is we’re less than what you do, so we’re going to let you win so that we can all get along. And two of those have always failed and unfortunately our current administration seems to be deeply invested in the third strategy.
Isaac Crockett: This is why it’s so important to have a biblical worldview and historical understanding of these things. So what is going on right now in Israel? They’re getting into Rafa. Maybe you could go into what’s happening there and the strategy that they’re using at this time.
JR McGee: It’s a unique strategy and yet it’s proving itself to be incredibly effective. They surrounded Rafa with several divisions and then they use three divisions to fight their way into the center of the city and they’re fighting their way out. What this does is it ensures that none of the bad guys get away and they can control the flow of refugees and divert them into camps and centers for aid and medical assistance and minimize the civilian casualties. This is being very effective and they have taken out multiple amass commandants and key leadership as well as finding numerous tunnels and weapons caches. Rafa was a hotbed and they are very effectively working their way out and when they’re finished, Hamas will truly be defeated. And what they’re trying to do with this by surrounding Rafa, they’re trying to make sure that none of the bad guys get back into central and northern Gaza where they could simply reconstitute and start this whole process over again. And I think that’s exactly why the United States and the UN is trying to stop it because it is proving itself to be incredibly effective and it’s not posing nearly the threat to the Palestinian civilians that the news media would’ve you believe.
Isaac Crockett: This is what’s so interesting. I mean, it’s one thing to hear something on the news or on social media and another thing to hear what’s actually happening on the ground, and so many times it’s widely different as far as minimal civilian casualties in this war. We hear these numbers and yet the numbers change. I think because we’re relying on the wrong people for that information and many people who we’ve talked with through our program, and I think you as well have said that really it’s remarkable what Israel is doing to avoid the civilian casualties, whereas Hamas is trying as much as possible for Israeli civilian casualties as well as in my opinion, it seems like some of the things they’re doing, they’re almost wanting their own people to die, so they can kind of put that in the face of the world and say, look, all these people that are dying. But could you talk to us any about the tactics and techniques that Israel has been using in this war to try to make sure there’s minimal civilian casualties?
JR McGee: Absolutely, and again, it’s fascinating to watch what they’re doing. The Israelis are brilliant at some of this, and the UN just recently reduced the number of civilian casualties by more than 50% of previous estimates, and I believe that that’s still on the high end of the actual numbers. If you look at it, no military and modern history has had a lower percentage of civilian to combat death ratio than Israel in their current engagement since October 7th. It’s almost one-to-one, and if you look at World War I, especially World War I, world War ii, you look at some of the Bosnia Hertz of Gina, you look at Yugoslavia, you look at all these other combats and wars that have taken place, and civilians are always, always a victim of warfare. It’s unavoidable, but yet the Israelis have achieved a lower civilian to combat death ratio than any military in history.
JR McGee: Now, they’ve done this a couple of different ways. Israel provides the civilians with unprecedented notification in advance as well as providing them escape routes to routes that have already been prepared to receive refugees. Like I said earlier, the United States didn’t do this in Iraq, with the exception of the second battle of Fallujah. We did give civilians there a chance to exit Fallujah, but that was the only time that we did it. We didn’t do it in Afghanistan, and the reason is it provides the enemy with far too much information ahead of time and allows ’em to prepare for the attack. Now, this strategy that the Israelis are using is absolutely resulting in higher Israeli casualties, but they’re willing to take that in order to better protect the Palestinian civilians, and yet the media and the world and especially the UN, are criticizing them relentlessly for doing something better anybody’s ever done.
JR McGee: In addition, they’ve used technology. The Israelis have developed what they call a knock knock bomb. It’s the mortar shell. It’s got no explosives in it, but it does have a message written on it, and they target it for the roof of the building, and it’s a message to the inhabitants of that building to evacuate it because it will be targeted by explosives within the next two hours. This allows the bad guys to escape with the civilians and puts Israeli forces at greater risk, but it has saved countless Palestinian lives over the last seven years. The bottom line is no country and no military has ever taken the extreme steps that the Israelis have taken to protect innocent civilians in time of war. Nobody has, and yet they’ve been mercilessly condemned for doing this better than anybody in history. I can’t emphasize that enough, Isaac. It makes no sense whatsoever unless you just look at this as a purely propaganda initiative to provide hate and discontent,
Isaac Crockett: Which is a big part of the warfare, is that propaganda Jr. Is there anything that media or administrations that are putting out these numbers that are part of the propaganda, is there anything they’re suggesting Israel could do differently that would save more lives?
JR McGee: They want Israel to give up and go home. That’s it. They want Israel to give up and go home. They keep telling Israel you can’t defeat Hamas. While they’re defeating Hamas, they tell Israel you can’t protect the civilians. At the same time they’re protecting civilians. We build a pier that immediately gets destroyed by weather. I’m sorry, I don’t buy that. American military equipment usually is built and designed to operate in all conditions, and yet as soon as this thing went into operation of supposedly the weather tore it up, I’m not sure I buy that. So other than Israel giving up and going home, that’s the only thing I think that the world’s going to accept.
Isaac Crockett: And that goes back to those strategies that you’ve talked about on our program before and that you just briefly reviewed for us already that it’s we win, they lose or else the other two ones are losing strategies where we try to make ourselves weaker even to the point of being weaker than the enemy. It’s just so much going on here. Well, when we come back, I want to look a little bit more at the international stage and international strategies that are going on. So JR we’re going to take another quick time out here to hear from some of our partners, but when we come back, I want to ask you to talk through some of what’s going on in the international stage and look at some of the strategy that is being used and see what that has to do with us and with our allies and where we’re at.
Isaac Crockett: But as always, we want to see God’s hand at work and all of these things, so please don’t go away. We’ll be right back. I’m stand in the gap today. Well, welcome back to the program. I’m Isaac Crockett, and our guest today is JR McGee and we’ve been looking on this Monday edition with JR at some of the strategies being used by Israel and protecting themselves and in this war against temas as well as some of the strategies that some of their supposed allies have been using with them. And we’ve seen unfortunately that even our own government has not been taking in it to win it kind of attitude, but has actually now been trying to leverage Israel to accept defeat against temas. And it’s really not the strategy, I don’t think biblically or historically that is going to help, but JR I want to pick your brain a little bit on a little more zoomed out view here of things that are going on in the world. We’ve got things going on with Russia and China that also affect everything else that’s happening in our nation and with our friends in Israel. So could you discuss with us, let’s hit Ukraine first. Maybe you could comment on some of the reports of long range strikes, missile strikes that Ukraine has seemingly accomplished recently and whether or not that resulted in significant losses to Russia.
JR McGee: Ukraine has been remarkable in all this since the very beginning. Everybody thought that Ukraine would be done in three to five days, and yet here we are a couple of years down the road and they’re still holding Russia at bay. Now, Ukraine has had some success with long range strikes like you were talking about, against some highly significant strategic value targets. One in particular is the Russian over the horizon early warning radar system that provides security for Russia in the event that they’re attacked with nuclear weapons. It’s the Veronas M early warning radar system, and it wasn’t destroyed, but it was severely damaged. And there’s some sources say it was drones, others say it was attack and missiles, but whatever the system is offline, it’s a hundred million dollars system that took two years to build. I don’t know how long it’s going to take to restore it to function, but it creates a gap in the Russian early warning system, which is significant.
JR McGee: In addition to that, there’s been several strategic air bases and supply depots that have been hit and destroyed and or severely damaged again by the use of Russian missiles and drones. The Ukrainians have adapted to drone warfare incredibly effectively. They’ve gone out and bought off the shelf drones, they’ve developed some drones. They’re using these against Russian armor, their tanks and their armor personnel carriers to significant effect. And I want to say something about the Russian situation in this. What’s really correct is that Russian airfields and the Russian fighter jet force and their bomber jet force have suffered significant losses. There’s been a lot of airplanes shot down by the Ukrainians. In addition, they’ve lost several ships out of their Black sea fleet. Nobody expected Ukraine to have successes against the Russian Navy, and yet they have been so successful. Russia’s had to withdraw the vast majority of her fleet from the Black Sea out of range of those attacks.
JR McGee: And to put this into perspective, depending on the sources, you look at the Russians say they’ve lost 3000 tanks and Ukraine says they’ve lost 6,000 tanks. I don’t care which number it is. That’s an extraordinary number of armored systems to lose in a two year period. Even worse, the Russians have suffered over 500,000 deaths in their military and put that in perspective, in all of World War ii, the United States only lost 405,000 men. In all of World War ii, Russia has now lost more men in this attack against Ukraine than the United States lost in World War ii. That’s astonishing, and no matter how you look at it, there’s some really serious things going on because NATO in the United States have both suggested that they are now in a position to recognize Ukraine as joining NATO as a full member. That is one of Putin’s absolute red lines. He will go, I’m sorry to use the term, he’ll go ballistic if that occurs. And by that I mean tactical nuclear weapons. Putin has made it very, very clear he will not tolerate Ukraine joining nato, and now both NATO and the United States have made it clear that that’s precisely what they’re going to work towards in the very near future. It’s almost like they’re trying to provoke Putin instead of trying to stop this, they’re trying to push Putin to make it even worse.
Isaac Crockett: It’s certainly interesting from a strategy standpoint those questions of why would they do that and what is going to happen, but even as you said, it’s only been two years and that so much has happened when nobody gave Ukraine a chance to even make it more than a few weeks. Well, I have a lot of questions I’d love to dig into on that right now, but let’s look over the other way At China and Taiwan, can you just talk to us about that and look at that strategically? What’s your analysis there of what is going on or what could be going on soon between China and Taiwan?
JR McGee: Just in the last week, the situation between China and Taiwan has escalated dramatically. China is now big into war games and war simulations, and they’re all targeted towards the invasion of Taiwan, and they’ve now overflown Taiwan in this latest series of war games this past week with very serious numbers of both fighter jets and bombers. This is incredibly provocative and I think it’s directly as a result of Taiwan’s new President lichen tea who was just installed as president last week. I think this is a direct result because lichen tea is very strongly for separation between China and Taiwan. China doesn’t want this, and frankly, I think China is looking at a reduced timeframe no matter what happens with the election that’s coming up in November, whatever government is put into place is going to be stronger than the government we have now. And China believes that they have a window of opportunity to do whatever they’re going to do in Taiwan between now and November the fifth, and I don’t think they’re going to let that window close.
JR McGee: They’re stepping up their efforts. They’re stepping up their military equipment to include some really significant naval ships. Isaac, the Chinese Navy is building three times, almost four times as many naval ships as the states is. Our Navy has never been weaker, and the Chinese Navy is already caught up with us and is rapidly passing us, and they’ve got one new vessel in particular, it’s an amphibious vessel. The only reason you need a damn amphibious vessel if you want to land troops on another country, that’s the only point of having those. They currently got what’s called a plan. That’s the Chinese Type 75. It’s very effective. They’ve got a lot of them, but now they’re building a new plan type 76, and this is almost the size of an aircraft carrier. It looks like it’s also going to have a well for aircraft, so they could put either short or vertical takeoff and landing aircraft on this or helicopters to support landing troops.
JR McGee: The only reason that they need this is that they’re going to invade somebody. And clearly they are planning on invading Taiwan. They’re building these ships at an incredibly rapid pace and not just the amphibious ships. They’re building submarines. They’re going to rapidly approach the point to where they’re going to numerically be able to challenge the superiority of American submarines. And the American submarines are one of the key defensive elements that we have for the triad that defends the United States. And if China begins to get to the point where they can overwhelm our submarine service, we’ve got real problems. And they are building these submarines, these amphibious vessels. They’re building aircraft carriers, they’re building jets and bombers as fast as they can build them. They’re using all of the manufacturing expertise that we taught them and moved our manufacturing over them over there to them. They’re using that expertise now to build their military at a rate that’s almost unheard of.
JR McGee: Now, the other thing that China’s doing, they’re making very strategic moves into several maritime choke points. These are areas that China would have to defend to protect themselves or to control and cut off supplies and material to the rest of the world, especially the Taiwan Straits. The areas in the South China Sea that we’ve talked about at length on this show, and now they’re moving into the Straits of Malacca. These are the three specific areas where almost all of the maritime traffic and trade move between countries, between the United States and the rest of the world. If China cuts those off, the United States will find themselves rapidly with very few supplies, almost no material, and they will have very little way of maintaining a war if one starts.
Isaac Crockett: This is interesting. It’s I think for Americans maybe eyeopening or scary to think through this. I can’t go into a lot of detail, but people that I know, some relations, some friends in many different parts of the world saying, oh yeah, you wouldn’t realize the representation that China has in these countries that are far from China, that they’re setting things up in a business way. But yeah, their ability to control trade and our economy’s dependency on getting things from China, and again, it should be hopefully eyeopening for us. I wish it was eyeopening for our government, but this is why many of you listen to us on a regular basis to hear truth, to hear, not just an analysis of what we think is happening, but to hear the truth of what actually is happening. And then to have folks like JR like you on that can analyze this and help us kind of understand the bigger picture of what’s going on, what’s going down.
Isaac Crockett: And so I would encourage all of you not just to listen on radio, but to go back and share these programs with others. You can go to stand in the gap media.com, stand in the gap media, you can see all of our radio programs and TV programs and other things and share those with others. Now is the time to know the truth and to spread the truth. Well, we’re going to take another quick time out and we want to come back and finish up asking our guest, JR McGee, some more questions about America, about what this means for us, about what we can do as Christians and hopefully strengthening our prayer and our prayer lives as we go about this. So please don’t go away. We still have a little bit more here before we’re finished with JR McGee on Stand in the Gap today.
Isaac Crockett: Well, welcome back to the program. I’m Isaac Crockett and I’m talking with JR McGee. And do want to just mention on our website, it’s stand in the gap media.org. I think I said.com. It’s stand in the gap media.org. We’re an organization, so you can look it that way or you can even Google Sam Roar, stand in the Gap, something like that and find us. But we would love for you to share these programs with other people. We have transcripts as well as the audio available that you can share those, but JR as we come down now to this last segment of this program, and it’s amazing how fast the time flies, but with what you’ve been telling us about your helpful insights, your analysis of what’s going on in Israel, what’s going on across the world, what does this mean for America? Because as I look at it, I see that we have leadership or lack of leadership in the White House that is trying to placate the enemy that is trying to make us look weaker or actually make us weaker so that they think that somehow then they won’t attack us. But what does all of this mean for us in 2024 here in the United States of America,
JR McGee: Whether I’m coaching individual executives or working with companies to help them develop strategy or still working with the military to look at strategy, my number one question is always to ask. So what? You put these things together, you get this information, you develop this product, you create this service, or you have this plan For me is I look at all of these actions and the key thread that runs through all of them is a dramatic rise in instability and threat posture in every region of the world. Every region is moving in the same direction. I’m sorry, that’s not coincidental. And in the intel world, we don’t believe in coincidences and every issue. Another thing that’s a key similarity is the ultimate goal is to replace the United States as the defender of the free world and weaken our ability to promote security and stability. Now, this is a big deal.
JR McGee: When you look at what the United States has done since the end of World War ii, we provided stability and security throughout the world. We protected weaker countries from bullies. We protected countries who had been attacked unjustly and in natural disasters. Nobody in history has ever provided the material support, the services, the food, the money, the rebuilding that the United States has. We’ve done that with virtually no recompense from anybody, for any of that we’ve given of ourselves, we’ve given of our money and our time to every area in the world to build them up, to protect them, to create better economies, better governments, better content of life. And the forces that I see moving right now are directly opposed to that. They’re trying to tear that down so that we cannot stand in their way. Now, I think God’s plan is to ensure when this blows up and that’s coming soon and very soon, the world’s not going to have any choice but to see it, acknowledge that God’s going to protect Israel from all this chaos, not the United States, not nato, not any particular person God and God alone. And I think that we have to understand that all these things appear to be chaotic, but they’re absolutely a plan. Like I said earlier, there’s no such thing as coincidence. These things are all connected. They’re all linked together. And when you see everything moving towards the same direction, there’s a designer behind that. Just like in the creation of the world. When you see a design, there has to be a designer, and I see a design behind all of this, and it’s a design that’s established to get us out of the way,
Isaac Crockett: And that makes sense. Again, looking at it from a biblical perspective changes everything. Well, for those of us listening, who are Christians born again, believers have a biblical worldview. There’s a part of us, I think when we hear the truth that it’s shocking and it should be, it needs to wake us up, but some people will take it and kind of this doom and gloom and take it into a very negative way. But as Christians, we know that we are to rejoice in the Lord. Even the book of Habakkuk, the prophet Habakkuk, he’s getting ready. They’re about to be judged by Babylon. He starts with a lot of questions, and God comes to him and answers him by saying, the just shall live by faith. And that changes his tune so that the last chapter of the book, he writes a poem, a prayer song saying that I will rejoice the Lord. I will take joy in the God of my salvation, even when bad things are about to happen, happen in judgment for what we have done. And so we as Christians, we can always rejoice in Lord, but JR what would you suggest to Christians? What can we do to be the most effective salt and light, even in times like this?
JR McGee: Oh, Isaac, you’re so spot on target, my friend. I look at this and I’m more excited right now than I’ve ever been in my life. It’s terrifying and exhilarating at the same time. It’s terrifying because the world and a lot of Christians aren’t prepared for this. It’s exhilarating because we’re seeing God’s word. We’re seeing prophecy fulfilled before our very eyes. I think the things that we should be doing right now is to fight for our Christian beliefs, and that doesn’t mean necessarily the combat. A lot of people think that I’m a warrior and I am, but I’m also a Christian soldier, and that’s a different kind of warrior. We need to fight for our Christian beliefs and to show the lost world that Jesus was and is exactly who he said he was. He said he was the son of God. He was the great redeemer.
JR McGee: He is coming and coming again to set this world right, and everything that we’re seeing is setting the stage for that to occur. I think the time’s running short on our ability to witness to the lost people of these world and to witness them for their salvation. I think when I say we have to fight, here’s what I mean by that. You need to work with those people in your immediate sphere of influence, the people that you can influence, and you need to pray for them and create the motivation within yourself, your family, and your friends to oppose evil. My whole life, I’ve been hearing people complain, saying somebody should do something. I don’t think we can wait for somebody to do something anymore. We are the somebody and we’ve got a Christian duty to be soldiers of the cross. And that means we’ve got to get involved, whether it’s building our church family, opposing local activities that threaten our ability to worship and pursue our individual beliefs and our pursuit of happiness or voting to oppose the evil growing in our midst.
JR McGee: And yes, I believe Christians have a duty to vote. We have a voice, and that voice needs to be heard, whether it’s witnessing or trying to stand up for the good in our communities. I also love the Bible, and the Bible tells me in John chapter nine, verse four, I must work the works of him who sent me. While it is day, the night’s coming when nobody can work, and what that means is time to stop complaining and start working the days well spent. I don’t think we’ve got a lot of daylight left, and I want Jesus to find me hard at work when he comes or when he takes me out of here, no matter which one. I want to make sure that Jesus finds me working and fighting his fight, not my fight, his fight. And I need to do that on the terms and the conditions that the Bible has set up. If you read Ephesians chapter six, it tells you how to equip yourself as a soldier with full combat equipment. And that doesn’t mean you go out and you hurt people. It says, I go out in my community and I fight the good fight to represent my Lord, my Savior, and to get people saved at any way possible. While I still have time to do it, it’s time to stop complaining Isaac and start putting on the boots and getting in the battle.
Isaac Crockett: Brother, JR McGee, thank you so much. That is so spot on. That’s the message we need. We need to be ready on God’s terms to meet him. Whether he calls us home through the rapture or through death whenever we need to be ready for him every day, every moment, giving our lives to him as a living sacrifice, a living offering to God. Ed, so many times as a pastor, my heart is broken when I see people who their closest loved ones haven’t heard a true gospel presentation from them. And so don’t let that be you today. Would you pray and ask the Lord to strengthen you so that you could stand in the gap today for truth wherever you are, and then ask the Lord to open doors of opportunity for those close to you and then continue on and throughout your community that you could share the gospel while there’s yet daylight, while we yet have life and ability to do so. JR McGee, thank you so much for being on with us. Thank you all for listening. Until next time, stand in the gap for the Lord today.
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