Threats, Leaks and Warnings

Oct. 21, 2024

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest(s): Ted Vanlandeghem

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 10/21/24. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:       Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s another full week of programming here as we attempt as normal to bring analysis to the increasing that’s key, increasing flow of significant headline news that impacts not only well though Southern America, but frankly around the world. And I’m going to say specifically for those who fear God and love freedom, that’s the perspective from which we come on this program. And before I get into today’s theme though, with recurring guest

Sam Rohrer:       Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s another full week of programming here as we attempt as normal to bring analysis to the increasing that’s key, increasing flow of significant headline news that impacts not only well though Southern America, but frankly around the world. And I’m going to say specifically for those who fear God and love freedom, that’s the perspective from which we come on this program. And before I get into today’s theme though, with recurring guest Ted Vanlandeghem, who’s now the director of synagogue and church engagement for the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America, as well as he does wear a hat of being a former US Air Force veteran for 26 years, serving for a time in the White House in Air Force Intelligence. With that being placed there. Before I go there, let me just give a brief view ahead, a roadmap of this week ahead.

Sam Rohrer:       Tomorrow, Dr. Jamie Mitchell will be leading this program, special guest Dr. Todd Williams. He’s the president of Cairn University in Philadelphia, former Philadelphia College of Bible, and that’ll be on the theme of the crisis in higher education. I think they’ll be very informative on Wednesday. Dr. Bill Salas of Prophecy Depot Ministries will join me for an Israel prophecy and Middle East update. And with all that’s going on in Israel right now, we’ll have much to discuss, but specifically from a biblically Prophetical view of what’s happening there. Now on Thursday, constitutional attorney David New will join me on a subject that’s not yet decided. We’re going to choose that as we approach that day based on what is actually happening here in this country. Then on Friday, I have a special program I want you to be a part of. I’m entitling that report from afar and we’ll be talking with our own Dr. Isaac Crockett, who is on the ground in Pakistan, a nation viewed as the most persecuting of Christians. That update will be extraordinarily encouraging, I believe. Then Dr. Gary Dull will join me for the second half of that program as he and I were going to give a review of our trip. A great trip just two weeks ago now to Kenya where we were involved in teaching nearly a thousand pastors, several hundred chaplains. And I’ll give just a brief, brief update where I spoke on integrity to over a hundred government officials. All of this will be happening this week ahead, so hope that you don’t miss a day now to the program here in emphasis for today. It never fails that the weekends are literally packed with major news releases this weekend. Definitely no exception. If there are three words that I would use to summarize the most important news of the weekend, it would be the three words that I’ve also used as a title for today’s program, threats, leaks and Warnings, threats, leaks and Warnings. We’re talking about Russia, Ukraine, NATO. We’re talking about China mobilizing their army, Israel, whether or not they’re going to attack Iran. And when the reported US intel leak of confidential Israeli attack plans a big deal. And then the bricks meeting starting tomorrow. All of these we’ll touch on today. So with that, get right into the program. Ted Vanlandeghem . Ted, thanks for being back with me.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Hey, it’s great to be back. Thank you for having me,

Sam Rohrer:       Ted. A difficult challenge today. We’re going to take these big issues, not dig deep into them, but give overview and I think that will be important. And so that’s what I’m going to ask you to do. Let’s go right now first to Russia and to Ukraine. What’s happening there? A number of things that could be said, but last week Vladimir Zelensky was going to give, and I think he gave it, although I’d not seen the script, he termed it a victory speech to his parliament, the Radha there. In essence, it appeared to be a speech where he was going to be willing to recommend giving up some eastern territory to Russia in exchange for a truce or a peace agreement. He also that made a statement that if Ukraine did not join NATO of NATO, did not agree to it that he was going to recommend the use of nuclear weapons inside Russia. NATO came back and said they were not going to grant admission by Ukraine, therefore that means that that’s on the table. Russia came back and said, there is no way this happens. We are going to explode, whatever. Now, broad question, what’s your sense about what’s currently happening there regarding the threat from Ukraine to Russia and Russia’s warning to Ukraine and the United States in regard to NATO and nuclear weapons? It’s a big deal. How would you boil it down?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, there’s a number of things at play here. Number one, Zelensky is trying to strengthen this position. There’s a 50 50 chance that Trump gets elected, and if that does, there’ll be a push to end this conflict and they want to end this conflict in the best possible position to leverage the gains they’ve made in Russian territory to gain back as much of their land as they can. The other piece of it is Russia is really stretched in the use of their conventional forces, and you’re beginning to see some of that weakness in the conventional force posture of the Russian military having to rely on their allies for weapons, munitions missiles, resupply equipment, and now even foreign soldiers aiding into conflict. That in my mind, increases the possibility in the threat level of a nuclear exchange. And what that means by that is a use of tactical nuclear, not strategic ones that would be launched on intercontinental ballistic missiles, but battlefield level tactical nuclear weapons.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         And the possibility of that is extremely high. And Russia has really upgraded their tactical nuclear capability as far as number of warheads and delivery systems. They’ve made a big investment in third generation hypersonic missiles that can defeat some of our more advanced systems. And so this is a tremendous concern. You wrapped that together with the fact that now with the Ukrainian incursion into Russian territory and the pressure that that’s put on Russia’s advanced to the East and Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine, now they’re pulling in North Korean special forces and it’s estimated that there may be as many as three brigades of North Korean special forces. These aren’t just regular North Korean soldiers, these are special forces units. And so that could shift the battle dramatically. Also, as a number of them, some estimates are about 3000 of those may be put on the front where Ukraine is incurred into Russia territory. And so it’s really unpredictable. It’s a very, very dangerous situation. And I think the threat by Putin of the use of nuclear weapons isn’t a hollow threat. Some might think,

Sam Rohrer:       Okay, well that’s interesting, Ted. I hear words when countries become desperate as what you’re talking about, tactical nuke become an item. And when other nations, ladies and gentlemen like North Korea, Iran actually provide not just weapons but soldiers on the ground, that coming together of these coalitions of nations also indicative of a very, very changing circumstance. Therefore more serious now when we come back, we’re going to shift to China. China is mobilizing their army. Well, we’ll talk to Ted and get an update on where things sit there. Well, it’s now reported and confirmed in nearly every sector. The Chinese official President Xi Jinping has just issued in the last 48 hours or so, the following warning, he said this to his military, focus your minds and energy on preparing to go to war and stay highly vigilant. Well, this statement came just days after one of the largest live fire exercises in the Taiwan Strait and a reminder that China remains determined to take back control of Taiwan.

Sam Rohrer:       They don’t want just that little island. They want its people, they want all of its advanced manufacturing facilities. And they also want as well the prized historical artifacts from China that was removed from the mainland to safety during the days of Maung. One, the freedom fighters from China fled China and they went to Taiwan. And I throw that in there because I used to visit Taiwan a lot and I’ve been able to have to see that massive volume of artifacts. It means a lot to China, though it’s not necessarily the mentioned prize, but it’s partially and it’s a great deal of why they say Taiwan belongs to them because they have all of the things of value of China’s history. So it’s not just economic, it’s a whole lot more. But nonetheless, I just mentioned that that’s a part of the equation. But the escalation in this warning from mainland communist Chinese coming in tandem with the warning from Russia and threat regarding Ukraine that we just talked about.

Sam Rohrer:       I’m going to submit. It’s hardly coincidental. It’s a converging of things. It’s amazing. Ted, what I just shared there from China’s perspective to me indicates perhaps an imminent move. They’re certainly flexing their muscle. I’ve been threatening we know for a long time, but might just be a timing prior to the election. I don’t know what your thoughts are, but I also find, and again your thoughts on this, that over the last few days in the same window, our own FBI and Homeland Security have raised to nearly the top level threat or a warning to the American people of an imminent paralyzing cyber attack against American infrastructure, including water, transportation, manufacturing, finance, and so much more of which China has long infiltrated. They’ve been testing for years and they’re now talking about doing something perhaps that would at least distract America if not making it very difficult for us to engage in something there in Taiwan if they make a move. So with all that being said, what’s your view about what’s happening? Is this statement from China’s president right now is to be taken seriously, perhaps an imminent threat against Taiwan?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Yes, absolutely. I would say I take it very seriously, just like I would take the nuclear threat from Putin very seriously. And I do think the timing around the election, if they think that Trump may be elected, their window to move on, Taiwan may be narrowing and there could a possibility of a Chinese move on Taiwan. You’ve got US forces and resources as far as munitions supplying the Ukraine war, supplying the conflict between Israel and Iran going on. And this might be an opportune window for them. The cyber threat is extreme. Just a little over about a week and a half ago, there was an attack on a cyber attack on cell phone networks. And Verizon, which is my carrier, was affected by that. My phone was out for the entire day. And there is belief that that may have emanated from China. China’s cyber forces, they’ve made huge investments in a lot of different areas, but one of them is offensive cyber capability.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         They outmatch US cyber capability according to US news sources and political and military leaders 50 to one. And that should be alarming. And it’s believed that China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, have been probing US critical infrastructure, telephone networks, water power with cyber intrusions. And so it’s a very, very serious threat. I would also say other areas to pay attention to are the fact that China has been rapidly upgrading its nuclear missile and nuclear weapon capability increasing the number of nuclear weapons and their intercontinental ballistic weapons capability. Recently there was an article out that Dave with their third generation hypersonic found a way to skip that off the atmosphere to increase its speed and its reach. And it’s believed that some of those hypersonic capabilities are able to defeat our missile defense shield power projection capabilities with aircraft carriers and forward bases in Africa and other places around the world. And a massive naval buildup, expeditionary military capabilities to match the uss and many more, including concerning things like Washington Times did an article last year about China’s growth in their intellectual magnetic pulse weapon capability, which is a major threat to the United States in its power delivery system.

Sam Rohrer:       And I consider what you’re saying there. In addition, when that issue came up with Verizon and I think at and t and there was another company involved or so in that TED that you just referenced, what was also said at that point was that wasn’t just an attack of that day, but what was said was that the Chinese have been inside our telecom systems taking information and inside military intel as well, which means for months they’ve been collecting vital information even as it relates to intelligence. So what is being said, what you’re saying and what we’ve had many guests on say for many years is that this is not some manufactured made up things. These guys are serious. Correct. I mean that’s what you’re saying.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         I would agree wholeheartedly with that. And if I could say just one more thing, couple that with some other things that we’ve seen playing out, which is intrusions into US military bases through the front gates of military bases by Chinese nationals, Chinese nationals photographing US military installations and videoing them, drones just this last week over US bases and this max of preparation for not just a conflict with Taiwan, but a conflict with the US and NATO.

Sam Rohrer:       Ted, let me just bring this up here because so far there’s Russia a threat, we talked about it. Now there is China and the next segment we’ll go to Israel and Iran. But with these, we already talked about North Korea putting troops on the ground in Ukraine, in alignment with Russia. It seems to me that no one can come to a conclusion other than the Eastern alliance, the Russia, the China, the North Korea, the Iran, those nations are becoming far more crystallized and formal in their alliances actually standing with each other against the United States than the United States is in regard to our allies. Anyways, some commentary about that. It does seem that we are being flanked and that’s a concern to me.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Absolutely. I mean you see an unprecedented level of cooperation militarily, economically with intelligence between China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, but you’re seeing them wooing other nations into their alliance of nations. They’re really courting Turkey. And I think that you’re beginning to see fractures between Turkey and the West coming into that alliance. And like I said before in previous programs that that’s the second largest military and NATO, the Turkish military. And so it’s alarming. It’s very alarming. And if you’re paying attention to it, it gives the indication that they’re preparing for all out war against the west.

Sam Rohrer:       And it does. And ladies and gentlemen, now we’re mentioning these things because these are now currently hanging out there in the headline, all these things we’re talking about. And we’ll go to Israel and Iran next and then we’re going to comment on a meeting of these same nations, frankly, these same enemy nations beginning a meeting, well tomorrow actually October 22nd, the Brix nations, we’ll talk about that a little bit. But these are forming around us now we’re mentioned that because by themselves they become unsettling. And we’re going to comment in the last segment, how do we respond to these things? We wish our leaders would take them more seriously, but it appears that they are not and they haven’t for a long time. There’s been no response to these developing threats. It’s kind of like what’s wrong with you guys? But on our own as citizens, we still look to our government for protection.

Sam Rohrer:       Well, is that where our hope lies really? Should it lie there? Well, we should have confidence in our government leaders, but frankly I don’t because they’re not doing what they need to do. We’re going to conclude the program today, and I’m actually going to read a passage from scripture that will deal with where our hope must lie. And as believers, if it lies there, then we can entertain these things as they happen and still not have our trust and faith shaken. We’ll be back in just a moment. Special guest, Ted Vanden, Legum, current director of synagogue and church engagement for the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America. Alright, Ted, let’s move now. We started with Russia, Ukraine, fact that North Korean soldiers are there on the ground. We’ve talked about them, went to China and basically the president’s charge to the military be ready to move.

Sam Rohrer:       And the threat of imminent invasion perhaps of Taiwan, which I’ve been threatening about for a long time. But perhaps in this window prior to the election when they know there is a very weak president in administration, the Biden administration in place, and perhaps maybe if Trump were to win it would be more difficult for them. A lot of reasons that would suggest as you just said, that what he said is not some idle warning, but another in that alliance, Russia, China, North Korea, there is Iran and that takes us now to the Middle East. There are a number of things that are happening there in Israel. So let’s just kind of go down through, if you don’t mind, and get your input on a number of things here. One of them was very recent, just some days ago there was a swarm of drones from Hezbollah launched in Lebanon that attacked the summer home of Benjamin Netanyahu and connected made physical contact with the home.

Sam Rohrer:       He was not there, so there was no loss of life, but in some respects that said they know where he lives, number one. Number two, they can get through the defenses which these low-flying drones have been able to do. And thirdly, to me at least it says that they have military capacity even though Israel, by some numbers that I’ve seen have indicated that they may have destroyed up to 50% perhaps of Hezbollah’s missiles and military equipment that they had put there to be used against Israel. So all that being case, here’s the question. What’s your takeaway from the successful attack against Netanyahu’s summer house and what response may Israel have to that?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, sure, Sam, my first thought on that is Hezbollah showed that they still have military capacity, but they demonstrated something else in this attack. And this is one of the furthest south attacks that Hezbollah has been able to do down there. CEA with a drone and drones are slow moving, but they’re able to fly low beneath radar. But that drone got very far south into the center part of Israel and it shows that they have the capacity to reach a lot further than the northern areas of Israel where they had been mainly rocketing and firing mortars and other projectiles and drones into over the last year. And so they’ve demonstrated that they still have military capability and that they have greater reach even though that threat has been degraded. And it was a very significant threat now that we’re learning with Israeli soldiers on the ground, just the sheer magnitude of tunnel networks and weapons and munition stores. And there was a clear plan for a ground invasion into the north and that’s been thwarted, but there’s still capacity there and they proof that they can reach further than what people thought.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, let’s move to another issue then. This zoning land elect last 48 hours I think on Friday actually, but late on Friday. But this event, a lot of our listeners may not be aware of this, but it appears now that, and then again what your perspective is important on this. It appears that there was an intel leak, could be a cyber attack, but what I’m seeing appears to be more an intentional leak from the Pentagon. Somebody in the Pentagon, somebody in the military who got wind of Israel’s attack plans, retaliatory attack plans against Iran, and it was released. So now information is known about what they were going to do. Some are suggesting that it was done by the Biden administration intentionally and intentional leak so as to prevent Israel from making an attack prior to the election. They think it would favor a Kamala vote. But on the other hand, this goes right to the heart of trust between Israel and this administration. Anyways, there’s a lot of different things that you can make out of it. Comment on what you know about it and what the implications might be.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well sure, it definitely appears to have been in a leak from what I’ve been reading and seeing. There was a great interview with Dan Hoffman who was a former CIA station chief, and he did an interview on Fox News just this morning. It was really worthwhile to watch. And one of the things that he mentioned in there that the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, some of the information that they had on Israel and its movements and their watching of the movements of IDF and IDFs readying potential for a potential attack. And that information got leaked and that does damage twofold. Number one, that takes away Israel’s element of surprise, but also, which is a big part of their military strength, is their ability to strike when people least think. But also the fact that the US was watching Israel’s movements and telegraph those or somebody in the administration in the DOD telegraph that to the world, but to Israel’s enemies Iran. And so that’s very, very concerning for the strategic partnership between the US and Israel, but also just from the factor of the biblical promise that I’ll bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. That’s very much in effect. It’s very concerning. My perspective is is that I’ve been watching for an Israeli retaliation maybe as soon as the 25th, and I can explain my thoughts on that, but it’s very concerning

Sam Rohrer:       And it is regarding that. Now, one postulate, and again, this is a guess we don’t know. One postulate would be that, well, and maybe it wasn’t what, I wouldn’t call it a treasonous leak, but it was an intentional leak to get Iran to think, well now that this is known, they won’t do it. But then in fact they will. So it was actually done to throw them off that way. I suppose that is possible. We won’t know until it happens. But anyways, comments on that and then move in to why you think you mentioned this 25th date when you’ve been with me on past programs. We’ve talked about important dates, dates on the Jewish calendar, signs in the sky that the Bible talks about, that all of these things, the symbolism, we don’t get that too much here in, I mean, it’s not really as real a thing as it is in the Middle East where observance of what happens in the skies and so forth is more important than certainly the Jewish catalog. But why do you think that Israel might make its attack on Iran prior to October 25th?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, to answer your first question about was this subterfuge on the part of the US working with Israel, it’s certainly possible to create confusion among the Iranians. I’m skeptical about that just because the US has really battled Israel against all of her plans. Like when they wanted to go into Rafah, they put tremendous pressure, threatened to withhold weapons. They pressured Israel not to go into Lebanon and take on Hezbollah, but it was an untenable situation. Thousands upon thousands of Israeli citizens are not able to occupy their homes for an entire year because of the threat in the north. And now that Israel’s gone in, it’s proof that that threat was much larger and more concerning than anybody ever knew. Now why the 25th? And I want to be clear, I’m not making a prediction. It’s just an observation. The biblical calendar, the Jewish calendar is different than the calendar we use in the West.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         And on October 7th on our calendar, when the attack happened last year, that day happened to be a holiday that comes at the end of the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, a week long holiday called Sukkot or the Feast of Booth or the Feast of Tabernacles. And then one day after that is a holiday called sim Cut Tour rejoicing in the words, it’s where we roll the tour scrolls back into synagogue and go all the way back to the beginning and we danced with the scrolls in the congregation and worship the Lord holding up the scrolls. And so that was Sim ka Torah fell on October 7th last year. But on the biblical calendar, SIM ka Torah, which is the biblical one year anniversary of the attack is actually sundown. October 24th is sundown October 25th. So on the biblical calendar, that will be the one year anniversary. And I think that that might be a possible date for Israel’s retaliation against this unprecedented attack that took place a year ago.

Sam Rohrer:       And that is interesting. I’m glad you shared that. We don’t have just a few seconds left here, but why is symbolism like that so much more important to the Middle Eastern mindset?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, there’s symbolism as it relates to holidays or big events, even an attacks that have happened here, like the events of nine 11 that relates to the pushing out of Muslim forces out of Spain in the Islamic world, the battle of all. So that’s always big and powerful in the Middle Eastern mind and in the calculus of these attacks.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, we could go much further, but ladies and gentlemen, hopefully that just provided a little bit of insight in that there are other things and ways to look at events that are very important. When we come back, we’re going to visit one more other big event. It begins tomorrow and it’s with the nations, Russia and China and Iran. And we’ll talk about that. Well as we go into our final segment here today. Again, thank you for listening and being a part of the program. Thank you also to those who are writing and write to us. Thank you also for those who partner with us financially. So very, very important. If you’ve not done that before, please do thank you. Also for those who are praying regularly for us, very, very important that you pray and partner with us. It’s been a blessing every time I am out and about even going to Africa to Kenya a couple of weeks ago, I ran into many there pastors and others who came up and who listened to this program.

Sam Rohrer:       They’re in Africa on their apps and other ways. Listen to it and watch TV programs. Pretty amazing. But it’s a reminder that this program God is using in the hearts and the ears of many in the eyes of those who watch the impartation of truth. And even as we’re doing today, take events of the day, but with the help of experts and others who are in tune with the biblical worldview and aware experientially to give comment and analysis to those things which are happening around us. Because we do know for a fact that which comes from government, that which comes from the news, organized news itself is not necessarily the truth. More often than not it is not. So that being the case, thank you for being a part of it and continue to increasingly partner with us. So very important. Alright, another event we’ve talked about the Russia, Ukraine circumstance, China, Taiwan circumstance, Israel, Iran circumstance, all of these are boiling together.

Sam Rohrer:       There’s another event, very significant that’s kicking off tomorrow, October 22nd. That’s the date here in 2024, a meeting of the bricks nations, B-R-I-C-S nation. You’ve heard about it before. We’ve talked about it officially. Nine members now are a part of it. It is comprised of Russia, it’s in league with China, India, Brazil. It’s actually Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. That’s Brex, that’s what it stands for. But to that now has been added such countries as Egypt, Ethiopia, and others. And there’s about 30 more that are standing in line having applied for membership. And that may be acted upon in this meeting coming up. But here’s the point of this, this group, its intent is to come up with another globally recognized financial system that has as its heart to cut out the US dollar since World War ii, one of the prizes for being on the victory side of that war of which the United States was used of God directly in that was that the prize that we got was that us along with the UK and the West consolidated the monetary system for the world.

Sam Rohrer:       Everybody else was dependent and broke at that point. The dollar became what’s called the reserve currency of the world. Therefore everybody wants dollars. Very helpful, economically, very helpful to the United States. But it’s been a position, I’m going to say abused by the United States because since everybody needed the dollar, when it’s run by people, as I think we’ve had in our government for a long time that have not been guided by ethics or morality, they said, here’s a weapon that we can use. So the dollar has been weaponized to basically use as a bludgeon against other nations, either to reward them to do what we want or to punish them in the form of sanctions and others if they don’t do what we want. The result of it has been, it’s been great for the United States. We’ve been able to print money out to kazoo, which we have and ship our inflation around the world.

Sam Rohrer:       So everybody else has borne the burden of our spending more than we have now that’s coming home because these countries of the world have disliked it. They have hated it, and they’ve looked for a way to undo the power of the dollar that’s led by Russia and those nations they’re meeting. And so all of that being said, that’s what’s taking place. The impact could be extraordinary. So Ted, this is a factor in this whole thing as well. And the timing of it coming right in this window before the election I do not think is accidental again. But clearly these nations, the Russia, the China, not so much the India, but they’re a part of this, all these other nations they love and they would love to see the United States humbled. That being said, what are your thoughts about this bricks meeting, their intended vote, the timing and how it may fit into all these converging events we’ve talked about here today?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, absolutely Sam, this is a tremendous threat and it’s financial warfare against the US dollar. And like you rightly said, the US dollar has been weaponized to advance the policy in the United States over the years and has been abused. And as you rightly said, many countries have grown to resent that it’s an existential threat to the United States and our economy because the US dollar has been the reserve currency. Some people call it the petrol dollar, the currency for trade of all oil and other commodities worldwide. And it really props up the value of the US dollar and by moving towards an alternative currency or a basket of currencies to undermine the US dollar, that will greatly reduce the value of the US dollar and can cause a tremendous economic disruption and collapse in our economy here and economies the main driver for a nation to be a strong military force, you have to have a strong economy. And so it’s a huge tremendous threat. And 10 of these bricks nations, and like you said, there’s 30 that have applied, but just 10 of these bricks nations comprises one quarter or represents one quarter of the world population. And with this meeting, if we see more nations come on board using another currency as a reserve currency against the dollar, the ramifications of that could be tremendous, especially when our nation is nearing 35 trillion in debt, which is unsustainable. It’s greater than our GDP

Ted Vanlandeghem:         And it positions us for a financial collapse. The likes of, I think, have never been seen before,

Sam Rohrer:       And I think that’s absolutely true, Ted and ladies and gentlemen, I’m going to shift gears here right now. We could go much deeper than that, but I said earlier, when we see all these things happen, what do we do? The intent of the media and all is to get everybody flustered into fear, right? But God said he’s not giving us a spirit of fear. Let me just read 11 verses. It’s the whole tire chapter of Psalm 46. To me, this is great assurance. This is what it says there in Psalm 46. God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore, we will not fear though the earth gives way, though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble at its swelling, there is a river whose streams make glad the city of God.

Sam Rohrer:       That’s Jerusalem. By the way, the holy habitation of the most high. God is in the midst of her. She shall not be moved. God will help her. When mourning dawns the nation’s rage, the kingdoms taught her, he utters his voice. The earth melts the Lord of hosts is with us. The God of Jacob is our fortress. Come behold the works of the Lord, how he has brought desolation on the earth. He makes wars to cease to the end of the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear. He burns the chariots with fire. Be and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations. I will be exalted in the earth. The Lord of hosts is with us. The God of Jacob is our fortress. May that be a place to consolidate our thoughts, our hopes, and our prayers as we cover the kinds of things we covered today. I hope that in fact, that the Lord of hosts, I know he is with us. I hope that he is your refuge and your strength. God bless you all. Thanks for being with us today. Thank you, Ted for being with me. God bless you and your ministry there at MJAA.

 

, who’s now the director of synagogue and church engagement for the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America, as well as he does wear a hat of being a former US Air Force veteran for 26 years, serving for a time in the White House in Air Force Intelligence. With that being placed there. Before I go there, let me just give a brief view ahead, a roadmap of this week ahead.

Sam Rohrer:       Tomorrow, Dr. Jamie Mitchell will be leading this program, special guest Dr. Todd Williams. He’s the president of Cairn University in Philadelphia, former Philadelphia College of Bible, and that’ll be on the theme of the crisis in higher education. I think they’ll be very informative on Wednesday. Dr. Bill Salas of Prophecy Depot Ministries will join me for an Israel prophecy and Middle East update. And with all that’s going on in Israel right now, we’ll have much to discuss, but specifically from a biblically Prophetical view of what’s happening there. Now on Thursday, constitutional attorney David New will join me on a subject that’s not yet decided. We’re going to choose that as we approach that day based on what is actually happening here in this country. Then on Friday, I have a special program I want you to be a part of. I’m entitling that report from afar and we’ll be talking with our own Dr. Isaac Crockett, who is on the ground in Pakistan, a nation viewed as the most persecuting of Christians. That update will be extraordinarily encouraging, I believe. Then Dr. Gary Dull will join me for the second half of that program as he and I were going to give a review of our trip. A great trip just two weeks ago now to Kenya where we were involved in teaching nearly a thousand pastors, several hundred chaplains. And I’ll give just a brief, brief update where I spoke on integrity to over a hundred government officials. All of this will be happening this week ahead, so hope that you don’t miss a day now to the program here in emphasis for today. It never fails that the weekends are literally packed with major news releases this weekend. Definitely no exception. If there are three words that I would use to summarize the most important news of the weekend, it would be the three words that I’ve also used as a title for today’s program, threats, leaks and Warnings, threats, leaks and Warnings. We’re talking about Russia, Ukraine, NATO. We’re talking about China mobilizing their army, Israel, whether or not they’re going to attack Iran. And when the reported US intel leak of confidential Israeli attack plans a big deal. And then the bricks meeting starting tomorrow. All of these we’ll touch on today. So with that, get right into the program. Ted Vanlandeghem . Ted, thanks for being back with me.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Hey, it’s great to be back. Thank you for having me,

Sam Rohrer:       Ted. A difficult challenge today. We’re going to take these big issues, not dig deep into them, but give overview and I think that will be important. And so that’s what I’m going to ask you to do. Let’s go right now first to Russia and to Ukraine. What’s happening there? A number of things that could be said, but last week Vladimir Zelensky was going to give, and I think he gave it, although I’d not seen the script, he termed it a victory speech to his parliament, the Radha there. In essence, it appeared to be a speech where he was going to be willing to recommend giving up some eastern territory to Russia in exchange for a truce or a peace agreement. He also that made a statement that if Ukraine did not join NATO of NATO, did not agree to it that he was going to recommend the use of nuclear weapons inside Russia. NATO came back and said they were not going to grant admission by Ukraine, therefore that means that that’s on the table. Russia came back and said, there is no way this happens. We are going to explode, whatever. Now, broad question, what’s your sense about what’s currently happening there regarding the threat from Ukraine to Russia and Russia’s warning to Ukraine and the United States in regard to NATO and nuclear weapons? It’s a big deal. How would you boil it down?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, there’s a number of things at play here. Number one, Zelensky is trying to strengthen this position. There’s a 50 50 chance that Trump gets elected, and if that does, there’ll be a push to end this conflict and they want to end this conflict in the best possible position to leverage the gains they’ve made in Russian territory to gain back as much of their land as they can. The other piece of it is Russia is really stretched in the use of their conventional forces, and you’re beginning to see some of that weakness in the conventional force posture of the Russian military having to rely on their allies for weapons, munitions missiles, resupply equipment, and now even foreign soldiers aiding into conflict. That in my mind, increases the possibility in the threat level of a nuclear exchange. And what that means by that is a use of tactical nuclear, not strategic ones that would be launched on intercontinental ballistic missiles, but battlefield level tactical nuclear weapons.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         And the possibility of that is extremely high. And Russia has really upgraded their tactical nuclear capability as far as number of warheads and delivery systems. They’ve made a big investment in third generation hypersonic missiles that can defeat some of our more advanced systems. And so this is a tremendous concern. You wrapped that together with the fact that now with the Ukrainian incursion into Russian territory and the pressure that that’s put on Russia’s advanced to the East and Ukraine and Eastern Ukraine, now they’re pulling in North Korean special forces and it’s estimated that there may be as many as three brigades of North Korean special forces. These aren’t just regular North Korean soldiers, these are special forces units. And so that could shift the battle dramatically. Also, as a number of them, some estimates are about 3000 of those may be put on the front where Ukraine is incurred into Russia territory. And so it’s really unpredictable. It’s a very, very dangerous situation. And I think the threat by Putin of the use of nuclear weapons isn’t a hollow threat. Some might think,

Sam Rohrer:       Okay, well that’s interesting, Ted. I hear words when countries become desperate as what you’re talking about, tactical nuke become an item. And when other nations, ladies and gentlemen like North Korea, Iran actually provide not just weapons but soldiers on the ground, that coming together of these coalitions of nations also indicative of a very, very changing circumstance. Therefore more serious now when we come back, we’re going to shift to China. China is mobilizing their army. Well, we’ll talk to Ted and get an update on where things sit there. Well, it’s now reported and confirmed in nearly every sector. The Chinese official President Xi Jinping has just issued in the last 48 hours or so, the following warning, he said this to his military, focus your minds and energy on preparing to go to war and stay highly vigilant. Well, this statement came just days after one of the largest live fire exercises in the Taiwan Strait and a reminder that China remains determined to take back control of Taiwan.

Sam Rohrer:       They don’t want just that little island. They want its people, they want all of its advanced manufacturing facilities. And they also want as well the prized historical artifacts from China that was removed from the mainland to safety during the days of Maung. One, the freedom fighters from China fled China and they went to Taiwan. And I throw that in there because I used to visit Taiwan a lot and I’ve been able to have to see that massive volume of artifacts. It means a lot to China, though it’s not necessarily the mentioned prize, but it’s partially and it’s a great deal of why they say Taiwan belongs to them because they have all of the things of value of China’s history. So it’s not just economic, it’s a whole lot more. But nonetheless, I just mentioned that that’s a part of the equation. But the escalation in this warning from mainland communist Chinese coming in tandem with the warning from Russia and threat regarding Ukraine that we just talked about.

Sam Rohrer:       I’m going to submit. It’s hardly coincidental. It’s a converging of things. It’s amazing. Ted, what I just shared there from China’s perspective to me indicates perhaps an imminent move. They’re certainly flexing their muscle. I’ve been threatening we know for a long time, but might just be a timing prior to the election. I don’t know what your thoughts are, but I also find, and again your thoughts on this, that over the last few days in the same window, our own FBI and Homeland Security have raised to nearly the top level threat or a warning to the American people of an imminent paralyzing cyber attack against American infrastructure, including water, transportation, manufacturing, finance, and so much more of which China has long infiltrated. They’ve been testing for years and they’re now talking about doing something perhaps that would at least distract America if not making it very difficult for us to engage in something there in Taiwan if they make a move. So with all that being said, what’s your view about what’s happening? Is this statement from China’s president right now is to be taken seriously, perhaps an imminent threat against Taiwan?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Yes, absolutely. I would say I take it very seriously, just like I would take the nuclear threat from Putin very seriously. And I do think the timing around the election, if they think that Trump may be elected, their window to move on, Taiwan may be narrowing and there could a possibility of a Chinese move on Taiwan. You’ve got US forces and resources as far as munitions supplying the Ukraine war, supplying the conflict between Israel and Iran going on. And this might be an opportune window for them. The cyber threat is extreme. Just a little over about a week and a half ago, there was an attack on a cyber attack on cell phone networks. And Verizon, which is my carrier, was affected by that. My phone was out for the entire day. And there is belief that that may have emanated from China. China’s cyber forces, they’ve made huge investments in a lot of different areas, but one of them is offensive cyber capability.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         They outmatch US cyber capability according to US news sources and political and military leaders 50 to one. And that should be alarming. And it’s believed that China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, have been probing US critical infrastructure, telephone networks, water power with cyber intrusions. And so it’s a very, very serious threat. I would also say other areas to pay attention to are the fact that China has been rapidly upgrading its nuclear missile and nuclear weapon capability increasing the number of nuclear weapons and their intercontinental ballistic weapons capability. Recently there was an article out that Dave with their third generation hypersonic found a way to skip that off the atmosphere to increase its speed and its reach. And it’s believed that some of those hypersonic capabilities are able to defeat our missile defense shield power projection capabilities with aircraft carriers and forward bases in Africa and other places around the world. And a massive naval buildup, expeditionary military capabilities to match the uss and many more, including concerning things like Washington Times did an article last year about China’s growth in their intellectual magnetic pulse weapon capability, which is a major threat to the United States in its power delivery system.

Sam Rohrer:       And I consider what you’re saying there. In addition, when that issue came up with Verizon and I think at and t and there was another company involved or so in that TED that you just referenced, what was also said at that point was that wasn’t just an attack of that day, but what was said was that the Chinese have been inside our telecom systems taking information and inside military intel as well, which means for months they’ve been collecting vital information even as it relates to intelligence. So what is being said, what you’re saying and what we’ve had many guests on say for many years is that this is not some manufactured made up things. These guys are serious. Correct. I mean that’s what you’re saying.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         I would agree wholeheartedly with that. And if I could say just one more thing, couple that with some other things that we’ve seen playing out, which is intrusions into US military bases through the front gates of military bases by Chinese nationals, Chinese nationals photographing US military installations and videoing them, drones just this last week over US bases and this max of preparation for not just a conflict with Taiwan, but a conflict with the US and NATO.

Sam Rohrer:       Ted, let me just bring this up here because so far there’s Russia a threat, we talked about it. Now there is China and the next segment we’ll go to Israel and Iran. But with these, we already talked about North Korea putting troops on the ground in Ukraine, in alignment with Russia. It seems to me that no one can come to a conclusion other than the Eastern alliance, the Russia, the China, the North Korea, the Iran, those nations are becoming far more crystallized and formal in their alliances actually standing with each other against the United States than the United States is in regard to our allies. Anyways, some commentary about that. It does seem that we are being flanked and that’s a concern to me.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Absolutely. I mean you see an unprecedented level of cooperation militarily, economically with intelligence between China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, but you’re seeing them wooing other nations into their alliance of nations. They’re really courting Turkey. And I think that you’re beginning to see fractures between Turkey and the West coming into that alliance. And like I said before in previous programs that that’s the second largest military and NATO, the Turkish military. And so it’s alarming. It’s very alarming. And if you’re paying attention to it, it gives the indication that they’re preparing for all out war against the west.

Sam Rohrer:       And it does. And ladies and gentlemen, now we’re mentioning these things because these are now currently hanging out there in the headline, all these things we’re talking about. And we’ll go to Israel and Iran next and then we’re going to comment on a meeting of these same nations, frankly, these same enemy nations beginning a meeting, well tomorrow actually October 22nd, the Brix nations, we’ll talk about that a little bit. But these are forming around us now we’re mentioned that because by themselves they become unsettling. And we’re going to comment in the last segment, how do we respond to these things? We wish our leaders would take them more seriously, but it appears that they are not and they haven’t for a long time. There’s been no response to these developing threats. It’s kind of like what’s wrong with you guys? But on our own as citizens, we still look to our government for protection.

Sam Rohrer:       Well, is that where our hope lies really? Should it lie there? Well, we should have confidence in our government leaders, but frankly I don’t because they’re not doing what they need to do. We’re going to conclude the program today, and I’m actually going to read a passage from scripture that will deal with where our hope must lie. And as believers, if it lies there, then we can entertain these things as they happen and still not have our trust and faith shaken. We’ll be back in just a moment. Special guest, Ted Vanden, Legum, current director of synagogue and church engagement for the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America. Alright, Ted, let’s move now. We started with Russia, Ukraine, fact that North Korean soldiers are there on the ground. We’ve talked about them, went to China and basically the president’s charge to the military be ready to move.

Sam Rohrer:       And the threat of imminent invasion perhaps of Taiwan, which I’ve been threatening about for a long time. But perhaps in this window prior to the election when they know there is a very weak president in administration, the Biden administration in place, and perhaps maybe if Trump were to win it would be more difficult for them. A lot of reasons that would suggest as you just said, that what he said is not some idle warning, but another in that alliance, Russia, China, North Korea, there is Iran and that takes us now to the Middle East. There are a number of things that are happening there in Israel. So let’s just kind of go down through, if you don’t mind, and get your input on a number of things here. One of them was very recent, just some days ago there was a swarm of drones from Hezbollah launched in Lebanon that attacked the summer home of Benjamin Netanyahu and connected made physical contact with the home.

Sam Rohrer:       He was not there, so there was no loss of life, but in some respects that said they know where he lives, number one. Number two, they can get through the defenses which these low-flying drones have been able to do. And thirdly, to me at least it says that they have military capacity even though Israel, by some numbers that I’ve seen have indicated that they may have destroyed up to 50% perhaps of Hezbollah’s missiles and military equipment that they had put there to be used against Israel. So all that being case, here’s the question. What’s your takeaway from the successful attack against Netanyahu’s summer house and what response may Israel have to that?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, sure, Sam, my first thought on that is Hezbollah showed that they still have military capacity, but they demonstrated something else in this attack. And this is one of the furthest south attacks that Hezbollah has been able to do down there. CEA with a drone and drones are slow moving, but they’re able to fly low beneath radar. But that drone got very far south into the center part of Israel and it shows that they have the capacity to reach a lot further than the northern areas of Israel where they had been mainly rocketing and firing mortars and other projectiles and drones into over the last year. And so they’ve demonstrated that they still have military capability and that they have greater reach even though that threat has been degraded. And it was a very significant threat now that we’re learning with Israeli soldiers on the ground, just the sheer magnitude of tunnel networks and weapons and munition stores. And there was a clear plan for a ground invasion into the north and that’s been thwarted, but there’s still capacity there and they proof that they can reach further than what people thought.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, let’s move to another issue then. This zoning land elect last 48 hours I think on Friday actually, but late on Friday. But this event, a lot of our listeners may not be aware of this, but it appears now that, and then again what your perspective is important on this. It appears that there was an intel leak, could be a cyber attack, but what I’m seeing appears to be more an intentional leak from the Pentagon. Somebody in the Pentagon, somebody in the military who got wind of Israel’s attack plans, retaliatory attack plans against Iran, and it was released. So now information is known about what they were going to do. Some are suggesting that it was done by the Biden administration intentionally and intentional leak so as to prevent Israel from making an attack prior to the election. They think it would favor a Kamala vote. But on the other hand, this goes right to the heart of trust between Israel and this administration. Anyways, there’s a lot of different things that you can make out of it. Comment on what you know about it and what the implications might be.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well sure, it definitely appears to have been in a leak from what I’ve been reading and seeing. There was a great interview with Dan Hoffman who was a former CIA station chief, and he did an interview on Fox News just this morning. It was really worthwhile to watch. And one of the things that he mentioned in there that the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, some of the information that they had on Israel and its movements and their watching of the movements of IDF and IDFs readying potential for a potential attack. And that information got leaked and that does damage twofold. Number one, that takes away Israel’s element of surprise, but also, which is a big part of their military strength, is their ability to strike when people least think. But also the fact that the US was watching Israel’s movements and telegraph those or somebody in the administration in the DOD telegraph that to the world, but to Israel’s enemies Iran. And so that’s very, very concerning for the strategic partnership between the US and Israel, but also just from the factor of the biblical promise that I’ll bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. That’s very much in effect. It’s very concerning. My perspective is is that I’ve been watching for an Israeli retaliation maybe as soon as the 25th, and I can explain my thoughts on that, but it’s very concerning

Sam Rohrer:       And it is regarding that. Now, one postulate, and again, this is a guess we don’t know. One postulate would be that, well, and maybe it wasn’t what, I wouldn’t call it a treasonous leak, but it was an intentional leak to get Iran to think, well now that this is known, they won’t do it. But then in fact they will. So it was actually done to throw them off that way. I suppose that is possible. We won’t know until it happens. But anyways, comments on that and then move in to why you think you mentioned this 25th date when you’ve been with me on past programs. We’ve talked about important dates, dates on the Jewish calendar, signs in the sky that the Bible talks about, that all of these things, the symbolism, we don’t get that too much here in, I mean, it’s not really as real a thing as it is in the Middle East where observance of what happens in the skies and so forth is more important than certainly the Jewish catalog. But why do you think that Israel might make its attack on Iran prior to October 25th?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, to answer your first question about was this subterfuge on the part of the US working with Israel, it’s certainly possible to create confusion among the Iranians. I’m skeptical about that just because the US has really battled Israel against all of her plans. Like when they wanted to go into Rafah, they put tremendous pressure, threatened to withhold weapons. They pressured Israel not to go into Lebanon and take on Hezbollah, but it was an untenable situation. Thousands upon thousands of Israeli citizens are not able to occupy their homes for an entire year because of the threat in the north. And now that Israel’s gone in, it’s proof that that threat was much larger and more concerning than anybody ever knew. Now why the 25th? And I want to be clear, I’m not making a prediction. It’s just an observation. The biblical calendar, the Jewish calendar is different than the calendar we use in the West.

Ted Vanlandeghem:         And on October 7th on our calendar, when the attack happened last year, that day happened to be a holiday that comes at the end of the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, a week long holiday called Sukkot or the Feast of Booth or the Feast of Tabernacles. And then one day after that is a holiday called sim Cut Tour rejoicing in the words, it’s where we roll the tour scrolls back into synagogue and go all the way back to the beginning and we danced with the scrolls in the congregation and worship the Lord holding up the scrolls. And so that was Sim ka Torah fell on October 7th last year. But on the biblical calendar, SIM ka Torah, which is the biblical one year anniversary of the attack is actually sundown. October 24th is sundown October 25th. So on the biblical calendar, that will be the one year anniversary. And I think that that might be a possible date for Israel’s retaliation against this unprecedented attack that took place a year ago.

Sam Rohrer:       And that is interesting. I’m glad you shared that. We don’t have just a few seconds left here, but why is symbolism like that so much more important to the Middle Eastern mindset?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, there’s symbolism as it relates to holidays or big events, even an attacks that have happened here, like the events of nine 11 that relates to the pushing out of Muslim forces out of Spain in the Islamic world, the battle of all. So that’s always big and powerful in the Middle Eastern mind and in the calculus of these attacks.

Sam Rohrer:       Alright, we could go much further, but ladies and gentlemen, hopefully that just provided a little bit of insight in that there are other things and ways to look at events that are very important. When we come back, we’re going to visit one more other big event. It begins tomorrow and it’s with the nations, Russia and China and Iran. And we’ll talk about that. Well as we go into our final segment here today. Again, thank you for listening and being a part of the program. Thank you also to those who are writing and write to us. Thank you also for those who partner with us financially. So very, very important. If you’ve not done that before, please do thank you. Also for those who are praying regularly for us, very, very important that you pray and partner with us. It’s been a blessing every time I am out and about even going to Africa to Kenya a couple of weeks ago, I ran into many there pastors and others who came up and who listened to this program.

Sam Rohrer:       They’re in Africa on their apps and other ways. Listen to it and watch TV programs. Pretty amazing. But it’s a reminder that this program God is using in the hearts and the ears of many in the eyes of those who watch the impartation of truth. And even as we’re doing today, take events of the day, but with the help of experts and others who are in tune with the biblical worldview and aware experientially to give comment and analysis to those things which are happening around us. Because we do know for a fact that which comes from government, that which comes from the news, organized news itself is not necessarily the truth. More often than not it is not. So that being the case, thank you for being a part of it and continue to increasingly partner with us. So very important. Alright, another event we’ve talked about the Russia, Ukraine circumstance, China, Taiwan circumstance, Israel, Iran circumstance, all of these are boiling together.

Sam Rohrer:       There’s another event, very significant that’s kicking off tomorrow, October 22nd. That’s the date here in 2024, a meeting of the bricks nations, B-R-I-C-S nation. You’ve heard about it before. We’ve talked about it officially. Nine members now are a part of it. It is comprised of Russia, it’s in league with China, India, Brazil. It’s actually Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. That’s Brex, that’s what it stands for. But to that now has been added such countries as Egypt, Ethiopia, and others. And there’s about 30 more that are standing in line having applied for membership. And that may be acted upon in this meeting coming up. But here’s the point of this, this group, its intent is to come up with another globally recognized financial system that has as its heart to cut out the US dollar since World War ii, one of the prizes for being on the victory side of that war of which the United States was used of God directly in that was that the prize that we got was that us along with the UK and the West consolidated the monetary system for the world.

Sam Rohrer:       Everybody else was dependent and broke at that point. The dollar became what’s called the reserve currency of the world. Therefore everybody wants dollars. Very helpful, economically, very helpful to the United States. But it’s been a position, I’m going to say abused by the United States because since everybody needed the dollar, when it’s run by people, as I think we’ve had in our government for a long time that have not been guided by ethics or morality, they said, here’s a weapon that we can use. So the dollar has been weaponized to basically use as a bludgeon against other nations, either to reward them to do what we want or to punish them in the form of sanctions and others if they don’t do what we want. The result of it has been, it’s been great for the United States. We’ve been able to print money out to kazoo, which we have and ship our inflation around the world.

Sam Rohrer:       So everybody else has borne the burden of our spending more than we have now that’s coming home because these countries of the world have disliked it. They have hated it, and they’ve looked for a way to undo the power of the dollar that’s led by Russia and those nations they’re meeting. And so all of that being said, that’s what’s taking place. The impact could be extraordinary. So Ted, this is a factor in this whole thing as well. And the timing of it coming right in this window before the election I do not think is accidental again. But clearly these nations, the Russia, the China, not so much the India, but they’re a part of this, all these other nations they love and they would love to see the United States humbled. That being said, what are your thoughts about this bricks meeting, their intended vote, the timing and how it may fit into all these converging events we’ve talked about here today?

Ted Vanlandeghem:         Well, absolutely Sam, this is a tremendous threat and it’s financial warfare against the US dollar. And like you rightly said, the US dollar has been weaponized to advance the policy in the United States over the years and has been abused. And as you rightly said, many countries have grown to resent that it’s an existential threat to the United States and our economy because the US dollar has been the reserve currency. Some people call it the petrol dollar, the currency for trade of all oil and other commodities worldwide. And it really props up the value of the US dollar and by moving towards an alternative currency or a basket of currencies to undermine the US dollar, that will greatly reduce the value of the US dollar and can cause a tremendous economic disruption and collapse in our economy here and economies the main driver for a nation to be a strong military force, you have to have a strong economy. And so it’s a huge tremendous threat. And 10 of these bricks nations, and like you said, there’s 30 that have applied, but just 10 of these bricks nations comprises one quarter or represents one quarter of the world population. And with this meeting, if we see more nations come on board using another currency as a reserve currency against the dollar, the ramifications of that could be tremendous, especially when our nation is nearing 35 trillion in debt, which is unsustainable. It’s greater than our GDP

Ted Vanlandeghem:         And it positions us for a financial collapse. The likes of, I think, have never been seen before,

Sam Rohrer:       And I think that’s absolutely true, Ted and ladies and gentlemen, I’m going to shift gears here right now. We could go much deeper than that, but I said earlier, when we see all these things happen, what do we do? The intent of the media and all is to get everybody flustered into fear, right? But God said he’s not giving us a spirit of fear. Let me just read 11 verses. It’s the whole tire chapter of Psalm 46. To me, this is great assurance. This is what it says there in Psalm 46. God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore, we will not fear though the earth gives way, though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble at its swelling, there is a river whose streams make glad the city of God.

Sam Rohrer:       That’s Jerusalem. By the way, the holy habitation of the most high. God is in the midst of her. She shall not be moved. God will help her. When mourning dawns the nation’s rage, the kingdoms taught her, he utters his voice. The earth melts the Lord of hosts is with us. The God of Jacob is our fortress. Come behold the works of the Lord, how he has brought desolation on the earth. He makes wars to cease to the end of the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear. He burns the chariots with fire. Be and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations. I will be exalted in the earth. The Lord of hosts is with us. The God of Jacob is our fortress. May that be a place to consolidate our thoughts, our hopes, and our prayers as we cover the kinds of things we covered today. I hope that in fact, that the Lord of hosts, I know he is with us. I hope that he is your refuge and your strength. God bless you all. Thanks for being with us today. Thank you, Ted for being with me. God bless you and your ministry there at MJAA.