Revisiting the COVID “Experience” – Observations from a Frontline Doctor

Revisiting the COVID “Experience” – Observations from a Frontline Doctor

Feb. 6, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Dr. Gordon Donaldson

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 2/6/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Thursday edition of Stand In the Gap Today and a very special program today with my personal family physician, Dr. Gordon Donaldson. Now, Dr. Donaldson’s been with me on numerous occasions over the past several years. Most recently, August 26th of last year where our focus was this. This was the title for the program, Medical Observations from the Frontline. And as an independent, and I’m going to describe him an independent, he is God-fearing, he is and Hippocratic Oath honoring and he is Physician Gordon is part of what I’m going to call the limited group. It’s not extensive, it’s not big, it’s not everybody that’s out there but of this group, it’s a limited group. I’m going to say honorable frontline medical providers who carefully guard their professional integrity and I think that’s really key. I think we saw a lot of that over the last years.

Anyways, he and those like him feel called of God to help people as they fight off physical illness and help them to work towards maximum health and understand better how to work within the truly wonderful systems of the human body as created by God himself. Well, today I’ve asked Dr. Donaldson to join me again to revisit in part the discussion we had back on August 26th of last year and to get an update from him on what he is finding on the frontline and then dig more deeply into what appears to be driving more health related maladies than nearly anything. And that is outcomes from Covid and impacts from that Covid shot. And we will work into that. The title I’ve chosen to frame today’s conversation is this Revisiting the COVID Experience Observations from a Frontline doc. And with that I welcome to the program right now, Dr. Gordon Donaldson. Gordon, thank you for not only being with me on the program but sitting here right physically, side by side and I can look you in the eye.

Gordon Donaldson:

It is always a pleasure, Sam, to be on and to share with your audience.

Sam Rohrer:

It’s great always to have you and Gordon, let’s get in. We have a lot to go over today, but let’s go back if you don’t mind, to our last year’s program, August 26th, ladies and gentlemen, you can go find it on Stand in the Gap radio.com and compare a little bit of that in that program. I ask you at the beginning of it to identify the greatest challenge facing you and other frontline docs with whom you communicate in regard to practicing truly patient focused medicine. And that’s an important piece in response. Then you said this, I asked you that question. You came back and I’m just going to quote what you said. You said quote, I believe that number one is that we just don’t have the freedoms out there like we have had in the past to discuss with the patient what their needs are and to get a plan to diagnose them and treat them. We want to say sadly we have a healthcare system that is being controlled by entities that are driven by greed, government, big pharma on a global level, the World Health Organization, the UN and medical complexes that are out there, right? That’s what you said then. So here’s my first question. Would you answer this question the same way today or would you alter it in any way?

Gordon Donaldson:

I absolutely would answer it in the same way, but I would add that we are not only seeing this control issue more, but it’s actually as we would say on steroids because it has advanced so dramatically and especially as it comes down to ai, AI and this whole thing with the 500 billion that President Trump has put forth has just put this whole entity at a level that can get very much out of control very easily. And no matter how you cut it, AI is going to intrude into the practice of medicine and it is going to drive medicine, but it still comes back to who is behind AI and they are the humans and ultimately as I would say overall the devil and the Satanic evil, we have to look at this as an evil agenda that is out there that’s being driven by Satan and that’s where we have to look at it from that perspective.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, let me just follow up on that a little bit because in that meeting, and I have commented Gordon on this program, on the impact of what that is, the world has yet to find out exactly the implications of that meeting. But Larry Ellison of Oracle, one of the billionaires in that big tech gathering to which this commitment for expansive funding is there. He himself talked about AI in this developed fashion as being able to consolidate all patient health data and he actually said the word replace local physicians with immediate and best practice, diagnose of patient healthcare and treatment and more. So you’ve already given some comment of that, but is there any aspect of AI as being laid out here? I mean I am perceiving Gordon that the advancement of AI as he is talking about, can replace physicians. We know there’s physician shortage already. I can see a pragmatic answer coming in. We will give an answer to the shortage of patient of doctors, we’ll give an answer here to the shortage of nurses and we will come up with a treatment that will actually reduce the cost of future healthcare and we will all win. Alright, will we all win?

Gordon Donaldson:

No, we won’t all win. Because the one aspect of AI, and I go back to this many times and I know it’s been on your program, and that is as I recall once Leo Hohmann said AI and I was speaking with a psychologist friend yesterday, AI does not have a conscience. AI does not have a spirit. AI does not have anything other than a protocol. And we go back to protocols. So can AI put together a symptom complex that we put into it and give us a direction to go? Absolutely. But for myself and those of us who are out here on the front lines, as independent physicians, we deal with patients as we say, who are an N of one. Everybody’s situation is different. Everybody’s levels of stress, look at their epigenetics, look at their genetics and according to Larry it’s like okay, we can go, we can look at your genetics and we can see, okay, this is where you may have a cancer that will come up or this is where you may be predisposed to diabetes or heart disease or these other are chronic diseases. But it does not mean that absolutely everybody who is predisposed is going to get it. And so there is no way of preventing, but rather we work with it and we know where to go.

Sam Rohrer:

And Gordon, that’s great. That brings us up to the point ladies and gentlemen, again, our theme today is this revisiting the Covid experience observations from a frontline doc. We’re going to move from that overall analysis that we just talked about in this segment and move into, again, we’re going to revisit a question I posed to Gordon last August about the causes of increasing patient bad health, let put it that way. And then we’re going to move into a consideration of what we now know about the Covid experience. Well if you’re just joining us today, thanks for being on board, an important program today. Practical relevance, if you just joining us, stay with us through the balance of the program. Our theme is this revisiting the Covid experience observations from a frontline doc. And my special guest again today is my own personal physician, Dr. Gordon Donaldson, and been with me a number of times, but Gordon, in last year’s August 26th program, I’ve already in the first segment quote a little bit that you said there.

I further ask you then to comment on what you and other frontline docs because you’re in discussion with them. So you’re giving not just your opinion but other independent integrity minded physicians that across the country. But what you’re actually witnessing in regard to overall patient health over the last 10 years. I said I are people generally sicker or people generally more healthy. And your answer I recall was very quick, and you said this, I’m just quoted you said, well very simply the amount of illness and office visits that we are seeing are up dramatically where I would see patients five or six times a year. Now the average has doubled to where it’s 10 to 12 conservatively saying, and that is something that has really accelerated over the last four years. That would be from 2020. I then ask you if there was one singular cause for the decrease in patient health driving the increase in patient visits.

And in that program you identified a number of things. You said more sedentary lifestyle certainly has contributed, diminished nutritional rich diets. That certainly has contributed. But then you said of course covid, you then said this. Well, it boils down to the difficult conversation and it must be going back to that really what has accelerated everything that has been the introduction of the mRNA covid shot that cannot be put aside, it must be acknowledged, which fortunately a lot of the traditional docs out there who are in the narrative don’t want to acknowledge and it’s on this matter. I’d like to pick up Gordon now and pursue, let me give you a wide open question here. And that is, what do we now know about the covid experience? Because it’s more than just a shot, but the covid experience and specifically the consequences of the Mr. NNA Covid shot, which you talked about in the last program, that versus what the authorities then said, the officials then said about Covid and specifically the mRNA shot. What do we now know?

Gordon Donaldson:

Well, it was driving the fear narrative. So to answer that question on a level of covid, COVID was used as a pandemic to drive the fear narrative, which humans as natural response is, well, I want to be safe. And of course we know there is no such thing as true safety, we mitigate risk. That’s how we have to look at that. And so what they did with the pandemic was they drove the fear narrative, but they already had the answer, they already had the solution. And that is we have the mRNA vaccine available. And I will throw in a quick one with that is that’s exactly what’s happening with the avian flu scare and the quote pandemic. They already have a vaccine. So don’t worry if it gets a little bit out of hand, oh well we have the solution, we have another mRNA vaccine.

But what we have to then go back to is with that many of the people who died could have easily been saved. And that’s just a whole program in and of itself. But to then answer the question about what I’m seeing, the developers of the COVID-19 virus and the mRNA vaccine knew exactly what they were doing and they knew the potential side effects from the shot that was going to be coming down. I can go through a whole list of things neurologically with stroke, dementia, cognitive impairment, brain fog, nerve inflammation, psychologically depression, anxiety, insomnia, cardiovascular, heart attacks, palpitations, sudden death, irregular rhythms, immunologically recurrent illness, loss of antibody function to control cancers, the system of the body turning on itself, hematologically, increased clotting, those all know about that. And then on the flip side, it could be increased bleeding and oncologically with the increase in cancers in young people in the turbo cancers, rheumatological arthritis, back pain, muscle aches and pregnancy with increased genetic malformation still bursts and miscarriages.

And that’s just kind of a quick summary, but I have seen every single body system affected by the covid shot. And also I believe that this year, especially when I talk to colleagues, I have even my pediatrician and PA in the office, it’s like we have never seen so much. And you talk to the teachers, how many kids are out of class? It’s like the illness is rampant. And not only that, but the severity of it and how it very quickly progresses. I’m sure many of you out there have talked to your friends how, oh, they got this cold and then all of a sudden they have bronchitis or they have walking pneumonia or they have for children, ear infections, strep throat. And I believe it is directly related to the shot increasing the susceptibility to infection because they are more resistant to the antibodies that generally kill viruses in bacteria.

And this was predicted by Dr. Garrett Vandenbosch back in 2021 after the shot came out and it’s like this does not prevent. And everybody was saying that was the narrative, it’s safe and it’s effective. Well wrong on both counts and wrong in a big way. And of course what we now also understand is those who have got the shot, and I try not to throw the guilt side of this, but it’s just reality. And that is the shedding of the spike protein onto others. And because their immune systems aren’t really effective at keeping illness under control, you lose what we call the masses, immunizing each other and helping the herd immunity. And we don’t have that because of the immune susceptibility of those where it’s compromised. And so it’s easy to spread it and they come with recurrent infections. And again, going back to that, they knew that. So the whole thing of pushing and doubling down on making it worse is just an incredible disservice. People need to be aware of that and need to know that they have to do things that are going to benefit them. And again, we’ll talk about this a little bit and that is how the spike protein directly affects our thinking process. It affects our hippocampus and how we process.

Sam Rohrer:

And Gordon, we’re going to go on that next segment because that becomes really key ladies and gentlemen. Do not walk away, stay with it for this analysis. But let me come back and just ask you this question. You’ve alluded to it, but I know on this program I began talking about this issue before the shots were actually made available as an example in that time, Gordon, I mean I had here in my possession copies of us patents on the shot that were given and approved by the federal government years before 2019. And when I said, wait a minute, wait a minute here we’ve got something. This doesn’t need warp speed development, it’s already there. I said, alright, we’re into a time of deception here. And then we had so many folks on this program talking about what we knew and what we perceived. So there’s clear a lot now known that some with speculation back there, but who really was promoting and pushing this concept of a virus, but the ultimate goal of getting a shot and what were the goals?

Gordon Donaldson:

Well, it’s very simple. I get that question a lot. They, well is actually the globalists and those who are accomplices, the globalists who basically want the population to get the shot so that they can control better. It’s all about power control. And there is an aspect, and I just simply quote Klau Schwab, he stated it or I don’t quote him, but he stated in his book that there are two main reasons that we want this. One is they want to reduce the population. Bill Gates has said that by pandemics and shots. And then we want to also so control the population by controlling the health, the finances, food and energy. And that’s the 17 sustainability goals of 2030. That in a quick summary. And then the third reason is just follows. And that is they want to make trillions of dollars while on the backs of those who are depopulated suffering and go through the whole thing through what I call the healthcare industrial complex. And that is really the bottom line of where they are coming from and how they want to use all of these aspects to deceive the population that, hey, what we’re doing for you is just great, but really what’s underneath it is all about them, their control and doing it through these many different aspects.

Sam Rohrer:

And ladies and gentlemen, you heard what Dr. Gordon Donaldson just said. He didn’t make this up. These are things that the folks that have been driving at the Bill Gates of the world, the World Economic Forum, people of the world, the Klaus Schwab’s of the world and others in the big pharma, this is what they have said. So I just put that out there. There is a goal now when we come back, we’re going to talk about how the shot impacts the brain and thinking, now this is important because how do we think about this? Well, welcome back to the program. We are midway into it and I want to continue now with my conversation with Dr. Gordon Donaldson on our theme, revisiting the Covid experience Observations from a frontline doc. Now Gordon, in the last segment you mentioned a quote from Klau Schwab mouthpiece for the World Economic Forum.

I put him and these other guys like that, they’re like economic kings of the earth. That’s how they view themselves. And when people look around, and in my own opinion, anybody who cares about that, but we have political leaders and we see them because they’re visible. But in most cases it’s the economic gurus, it’s the bankers, it’s the guys who are behind that are really driving the system then. So that’s why I call them economic kings of the earth. When I read Psalm chapter two, the Kings of the Earth, people tend to think, well, governmental kings, well I think they’re part of it, but these economic controllers are there and he’s in that category. And you said they have a goal through which then they seek political legislation to make it happen. They want pandemic and shot because they want to reduce the world’s population and reduce procreation, the ability for people to have children.

Secondly, they want to do that by controlling ultimately the globe all people, by fixing and controlling aspects of both health, finances, food, and energy. And if anybody thinks, if you’re listening to me and you think of those things right now, think of the things that are even in the news and headlines today, health, finances, economics, dollars, food. Think about all of that and energy. Think of the focus on those and you know that that’s not accidental. Okay, not being said, Gordon, from a medical analysis, and you alluded to it about the mRNA and spike protein of the covid shot interacting with the brain and contributes to the globalist design for control of the human population. All right. Alright, so let’s walk into it here. How in the world does a spike protein and the covid shot impact the brain?

Gordon Donaldson:

Alright, let’s give, try to picture this a little bit. Our brain is from this standpoint has four main things. We have what’s called the amygdala. We have the hippocampus, we have our tracks that go between the hippocampus and the cortex and our, so think of it as a computer. So we have our input center, that’s the amygdala. We have the hippocampus, that’s our ram. And then we have the fibers that connect the ram to the hard drive and that’s our cortex. And so the daily interactions that we make operate at the hippocampal level. And so the then thinking processes, which comes down to common sense, critical thinking decisions that we have to make on a regular basis, that all happens at that level. The spike protein actually was intended to target the hippocampus. The hippocampus is the only part of our brain that regularly regenerates, but there’s one problem with it.

It can also degenerate and it can get smaller. And that’s how our thinking then is affected. So what we do is we can store in the hippocampus about 12, 14 hours of normal input that comes in through the amygdala and then it starts shutting down. That’s why at nighttime you get tired and it’s like, okay, I’ve had enough and then we need good sleep. And so during that good sleep, we have the fibers that then upload or the hippocampus uploads through the connecting fibers to the cortex, which is our hard drive, and it puts it up into memory there. And our cortex, a healthy cortex in our brain has the ability to store a lifetime of information. So what happens with this is the other aspect of this is not only is the spike protein directly affecting that and causing degeneration of the hippocampus, but also then the fear narrative.

They put that in and it’s kind of like an accelerator. So the fear narrative is coming into and stress. So you have pandemics. Pandemics are stressful or life events that are stressful or the things that happen comes in through the news and things like that. All those things cause stress and that with the stress, the anxiety and the fear also causes degeneration of the hippocampus. So then we can’t really think logically well now then they’re able to get the control of that. And when they’re able to control that narrative through the media and through the different aspects that come in a secular way, well then they’re able to control that. So I kind of go back to the thing, and we’ve heard that on this program many, many times, and that is biblical worldview. So when we have a regenerated spirit that then goes into and is fed by a biblical worldview, then we can build our hippocampus.

We can think critically, we can think logically, we can think with a common sense approach. So with that, the whole thing kind of breaks down when we aren’t able to function between those different levels. So the dead input is bad, then the hippocampus gets malfunctioning and the fibers that run in between, they kind of go different directions and they don’t go to the cortex and we can’t get the messages back and forth between our cortex and hippocampus efficiently to think. And so in doing that, they realize that and they know that they are able to control those narratives. And so the more they control those narratives and keep people in a fearful state, as Paul said to Timothy, we should not have the fear, but rather what a sound mind is the bottom line. And so again, with all that’s coming down the road with what they are doing, they are directly changing the structure of the brains.

And in doing that, then that changes how we process information, how we think, how we make decisions. And they are then able to control it depending on where the individual is at. And of course Ferrari has already said, well, then we’ll start thinking about how we can tap into your brain and we’ll even change your emotions and we can see what you’re going to be thinking and we can see that. So now we can manipulate you even more and then we can literally develop mRNA vaccines. So think of this, if they’re able to develop a mRNA platform that can attack cancer cells in a specific way, well they can also make them to attack a specific cell in the body as well. And then they get that on board and change the whole milieu of the DNA of an individual. It’s even more of an intrusion into it. So that’s why we have to be ready to say no to anything that comes down to Pike that way.

Sam Rohrer:

And Gordon, we’re going to go there in the next segment specifically, but something you said here I think was very important and we had talked about it earlier before even went on the program. I can recall Gordon, when I went into the Pennsylvania house back in the early nineties, there was at that point, there were studies that were coming out at that point that were demonstrating and showing that even the watching of TV at that point was creating organic changes in young people’s minds that were directly leading to an inability to think, truly think to think logically and come to a conclusion. One plus one is two and so forth. And you’re kind of alluding to that. I also thought of this verse in Romans 12, be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind through the word of God.

That seems to me that’s exactly what you’re saying the hippocampus should do as it unloads and reprocess at night, but the inputs into it make all the difference of whether or not we’re renewed or not. So in what’s left of the program, I want to ask you this, how do these factors of all the process, it was once tv, well, we know it’s way, it’s digital media, people are hanging on their phones eight and 10 hours a day and all of that kind of stuff. The media is driving into it. How do all of these things which are driving fear and sensation and all kinds of things, how does that literally actually result in the globalist desire to control people?

Gordon Donaldson:

Well, when you think of the whole process, it boils down to how we think. And the Bible is very clear that we need to think biblically. Well, that is directly based on what gets the input. And so again, I am very concerned about why it is that our young people still, and even more concerning that I see it is even many of our adults who are willing to accept socialism, neo Marxism, and it is related to how they look at TikTok and Facebook and YouTube and how all of these subtle things are then input in a subtle way. They may not even directly be aware of it, but it is affected because the brain knows that.

Sam Rohrer:

Ladies and gentlemen, how are you thinking? How am I thinking? That’s why we talk about a biblical world view will guide how we think that if we’re not intentionally there, we’re going to think and be conformed to the world. Its impacts is incredible. When it come back, we’re going to conclude, I’m going to ask Dr. Gordon Donaldson saying, all right, now from a physician’s perspective, how do we take this input and process it and handle it appropriately? Well, as we enter into our final segment now, we’ve had a lot of information that we’ve shared today, and my guess is I’m sitting here with my guest today, Dr. Gordon Donaldson. And not often does this happen. Most of the time guests that are with me are calling in from somewhere around the world. But in this case, he’s sitting here right beside me. And so we have been talking in between segments and comparing notes on things.

And you can’t see that as you’re listening to us, but I just wanted to share that with you. But we’ve covered a lot of ground in types of information I think we’ve shared today. You probably have never ever heard in this kind of a context and a consideration. A lot of people have said the same things but not connected it in the same way. And that’s because with God’s help, we try to deliver the analysis of what is from a consistent biblical worldview. How would God look at this? It really doesn’t make any difference what I think frankly, but it does make any difference what God thinks. Now I’m going to go to Gordon. How do we handle this? Gordon, I was thinking about this and I say as a physician, and you are my physician, I trust you. You are all about diagnosis and every good physician diagnosis and prescription, and you focus on physical life and physical health for people.

But as believers of which we both are, we know that we have a great physician who while concerned of course about our physical health, is mostly greatly focused on our spiritual condition. The perfect example I think ladies and gentlemen, this I share is this process is where the word of God as we know brings diagnosis to the condition of our human heart and tells us that from birth we’re all dead in our trespasses and sins, no hope of life. But God so loved the world. Isn’t that great that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him and trust in him shall not perish, die forever, but have everlasting life. So in simple terms, I look at that. I say in our souls, which live forever, we are so sick, we are dead. But God gives a prescription for life that’s called salvation through faith in Jesus Christ and ultimately the best of physical health without spiritual health and redemption through Jesus Christ is truly temporary at best and very short lived. So as believers, we are concerned primarily about spiritual health, but that also drives into what we do and consider about our physical health. Now, Gordon, from a human perspective, and you’re very good frontline physicians experience, how should good people, people particularly God-fearing people listening to the program today, for instance, grasp process and respond to all that we’ve laid here on the table today? We don’t want people to leave, as you said, fearful on the contrary.

Gordon Donaldson:

Well, number one, and I have found this interesting in my dialogue and when I’ve done presentations even to the secular world, but approaching it from a standpoint of health, approaching it from a standpoint of what is our best foot to go forward with? And it’s interesting that even they understand that this is an evil narrative that’s coming at us. It is something that is not good to use the opposite, but rather it is something that they are using to deceive. And to kind of go back is that this whole idea that everything again about the shot, what we’ve talked about with our treatment with ai, what’s coming at us, oh, everything is going to be great. We’re going to be better and it’s going to be safe, it’s going to be effective at getting us there. But that’s only from a human physical standpoint. And as Sam just said, we are spiritual beings.

And without that aspect, we do not have a good way forward because then it’s only for what we have here. It was kind of interesting. I know that maybe a lot of you didn’t listen, but when RFK Jr was being questioned in his hearing, there’s one of the centers, I don’t recall the exact one, but he basically said that if he was going to be confirmed that RFK would make an absolute statement that all vaccines are safe and mandate that every individual receive the recommended vaccines on the CDC schedule. Well, we know that that is not a good thing going forward to make a mandate like that for us. But what we have to then do is be willing to stand up to things like that because it’s going to come at us and AI is going to throw it at us again. I heard that somebody was saying, well, if your doctor doesn’t use ai, then he is really going to be becoming a behind the times, essentially bad doctor because he is not following the protocol that AI has out there for how I need to be treated for whatever this entity is that I’m dealing with.

So we have to stand up, and as Dr. Jessica Rose said, we have to be prepared to say no and not have the spirit of fear. I alluded to that before, but rather we have to have real purpose in life, which is only found as Sam also just said in Jesus Christ. It was recently I did a talk and after my talk, my pastor came out to me because he was there and he pointed out to me that this real purpose in life is only real purpose in so much as it is totally based on a biblical worldview. So I really encourage you be out there, get information, be under the tutelage of pastors and in churches where they preach the whole council of God, but to quickly go on the other side, to have purpose in life, we also need to socialize in fellowship. Scripture talks about that we need to eat nutritionally with whole foods and not to processed foods that are being thrown at us in on every turn.

We need to have a regular exercise program and physical activity as I tell my patients just out there and move. That’s our paradigm. And then get those seven to eight hours of restful sleep to regenerate our hippocampus and to get that upload so that it’s fresh the next morning. Because what the globalists want to do is they want to keep us in a vicious cycle of indoctrination through the fear narrative so that then we lose, as we said before, our common sense thinking. And we will accept harmful things be done to us both individually and culturally, which then further causes brain damaging changes in our brain. And so then it becomes circle back around. If they understand that, then hey, we’ll work at it again. And again, the input that is very important. So with AI is that if you go in and you ask a question of ai, it can pretty well pick up, well, what direction? Why is this individual asking this question? And again, it will go into its response, but the response may well be thrown at you. It may not. I mean, a lot of times it will have an answer, but the question is, is that answer something that is going to be beneficial to my brain or is it going to be not beneficial? And rather it’s going to be something that’s going to cause further damage. And Gordon,

Sam Rohrer:

Boy, we’re running out of time ladies and gentlemen, get the idea. Biblical worldview essential not being conformed to this world, but transformed our mind, transformed in, renewed by the input of God’s word, not the wisdom of this world. These things all come together and I hope that it’s been helpful today. Our time is up. Go back and listen to the program, get a transcript from it. You can print it right off for special app. So with that being said, thanks for being here, Dr. Gordon Donaldson. Thank you. God bless you.