A World in Transition

A World in Transition

March 24, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Michele Bachmann

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 3/24/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand and the Gap Today, and it’s actually the last full week of March, believe it or not. But boy, time is moving along. I trust that for you. Over the weekend, you were able to enjoy fellowship with other believers in a local church wherever you may be, where the gospel was preached, love and accountability were demonstrated, holy living, encouraged and where the anticipation of the return of Christ is a hope of great comfort. I hope all those things were there they should be. And before we start now, on today’s focus entitled A World in Transition and I bring in a special guest for today, friend and well-respected former Congresswoman Michele Bachman. Now Dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University. That’s in Virginia Beach, Virginia. Let me provide just a quick look ahead at the week ahead like I normally do here on Mondays.

Tomorrow, Dr. Jamie Mitchell will lead the program. A focus will be on hurt, excuse for engaging or reality to reckon. I think it’ll be a very practical program. Tomorrow on Wednesday, Leo Homan will join me for a commentary and discussion on the very latest issues of greatest significance. We haven’t chosen the exact topic, but we’ll be very current on what that program’s about. Thursday constitutional attorney, David New will join me again for another emphasis on some aspect of the constitution in American history and we’re choosing that specific theme yet based a lot on what is happening around us. Then on Friday, Dr. Isaac Crockett will lead the program with another Ask Sam emphasis where he and I will deal with questions that come from you in the listening audience. So if you have any question or a thought about some previous program, which is the way a lot are that you’d like us to address or respond to a little bit more detail, please let us know.

We will take care of that. You can do that online or on our app or just put something in the mail. So please don’t miss a single program as between these, we will give insight and awareness to what we believe to be the most important issues and all of course from a biblical worldview perspective. Now, with all that being said, let me bring in the honorable Michele Bachman right now as we get into our today’s program. Again, the theme, a world in transition. And with that, and welcome to the program right now, Michele. Michele, thank you for calling in. You’re at home today in Minnesota, so it’s a real privilege and an honor for you to take time away from the very little free time you have and spend it with us.

Michele Bachmann:

It’s a wonderful to be with you today. It’s even better to be with your fabulous audience. I really look forward to this conversation. We’re going to have a lot of fun.

Sam Rohrer:

Yeah, I think we will. There’s a lot to go over. So last time you were with me, by the way, Michele July of last year, our theme then was a World in Rebellion, and it was interesting. I look back at that, we gave an update. Then you commented on things relative to lawlessness and confusion at home that we were seeing. Then as we were approaching a November election, again, this was last November, we talked about the idea of raging nations typified by votes occurring at the United Nations and things that were happening at the Olympics. That was all back at that point. We talked about the threatening actions rising in Turkey. We’ll talk about them again today. And then a look ahead at the Jerusalem prayer breakfast activities that were planned for September in New York of last year. That was just a little bit of a, it’s nice to look back and to see what was the discussion at that point.

But Michele, today I want to ask you about America in transition, actually the whole world and your response to a couple things. One, domestic issues arising from Donald Trump’s first 60 days in office. We’ll do that next segment, third segment, want to go to the Middle East. I want to find out what you’re thinking there about what is unfolding, of which a lot is unfolding, and then the final segment we want to talk about in this window of time that we have, what should we best do? So all that being said, let me just get right into it. To get us started today, in these days of enormous, intentionally created distraction, demonically driven deception and exciting, biblically fulfilling prophecies, I had to put those three things together. I couldn’t let one out, but they’re all happening at once. They’re converging. And so for believers, we need to be aware of all of these things, but deal with them appropriately. But you have a unique perspective. So as a Christian, a former congresswoman, former candidate for president, here’s my question. When you look at the fast changing world events happening all around us right now, what are the top two or three most significant global changes, more of global than domestic, but global changes or trends that you’re observing, be they concerning or perhaps exhilarating?

Michele Bachmann:

Well, we have good news. It seems like the whole world is continually bad news, but we really have very good news after the election in November, I think I heard this universally among believers everywhere and really non-believers too, and that was people could literally sense the lifting of a hand of oppression that’s been on America virtually since the onset of Covid. That was the very end of the Trump administration. You really go back to about September 27th, I’m sorry, January 27th, 2020, that’s when the hand of oppression descended across America. And whether it was judgment or what it was, we were under a spirit of oppression from that day, really up until the election. You hate to tie it to a personality or to an election, but it was observable. The oppression, the restriction on our personal liberties, the fall of the United States economy and however the United States rises or falls, the entire world has a downstream impact.

So we’ve gone from a lifting of the hand of oppression and really a start of renewal and rebuilding here in the United States, a sense of optimism. There’s a tremendous pushback by those who are trying to put us into oppression. They don’t want America to be strong or alive or vibrant. There’s certainly a group that would like to see America over for all practical purposes, but they’re not on the winning side. They’re not in the seeds of power right now. And so we’re really in a robust period right now of optimism like I don’t remember for decades. So that’s exciting. Second, I would say this, Sam, there’s the impact coming from a very strong, positive biblical world of the view that is going out, I think globally because there is this optimism that is happening here domestically. That same level of optimism is being pushed out globally across the world because again, nations, tribes, investors look at what’s happening in the United States and they make decisions accordingly. That’s lifting up the fortunes of other nations across the world. It’s also telling bad actors who had a free hand for over four years across the world that their days are over. So that’s good. The third thing I would say is that there’s an ongoing rearranging of the Middle East. We’ll talk about that later,

Sam Rohrer:

But

Michele Bachmann:

It’s coming from a pro-Israel point of view and we’ll talk more about that as we go forward.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, that’s excellent. Honorable Michele Bachman with me today. Stay with us. We come back, we are going to shift and we’re going to go to now domestic, and I want to talk with her about policies that are unfolding, doge among other things, and we’ll talk about that in the next second. Well, if you’re just joining me today, our theme is this, A world in transition and certainly we’ve been talking much about it since the beginning of the year change. One thing that’s happening is change, a lot of change, global change, domestic change, change all around. That’s one thing we know. My guest today is Michele Bachman, a former congresswoman from the state of Minnesota and former candidate, if you remember, for president as well. And she’s now down as dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University. Now Michele, without a doubt, one of the most significant factors impacting all that’s taking place around the world and here at home of course was as we just cited, you cited, we recall the election of Donald Trump and you said there was a change.

There has been a major change the first 60 days domestically, and that’s where I’d like to go in this segment have really been unlike well, anything that I could imagine anybody thought of. So let’s just talk about domestic at home policies for a bit here in this segment, and then we’ll go in the next segment to the Middle East specifically. But whether it is what I call a Blitz creek of executive orders, the activities of Elon Musk and Doge or the elimination of tens of thousands of federal jobs and now the closure of the Department of Education. What is certain is that I don’t think under with all these changes, there is not one person at any level in the entire United States that has been or will be untouched by changes made among those that I’ve just cited. What is uncertain, however, is actually how it’s all going to work out.

So here, let’s go first on this from a strategy perspective, the effort to fulfill campaign promises quickly by President Trump and his team as how you describe it, is noble. I’ve never seen it of this level before, but the ability to manage so many things all layered down one on top of another, and each one of them impacting the other is almost nearly impossible. I mean, it’s amazing. But here’s my question, regardless of how noble do you think the president is actually trying to accomplish too much too quick, and is there perhaps a downside risk to all of these changes all being initiated simultaneously that’s not being discussed? What are your thoughts on that?

Michele Bachmann:

Well, I am a thousand percent in favor of everything that is being done right now. I think that Donald Trump and his team, he’s assembled one of the finest teams I’ve ever seen for a new president. What he has embraced that no other politician has embraced is this the sense of urgency. Urgency. Because our nation, unlike any other nation on earth, has such incredible over indebtedness that America literally could fail just because of our level of indebtedness. We’re like a car going 80 miles an hour into a brick wall with no breaks because at the end of the day, in your own personal life or in business, math always wins. You can’t take on an unheard of level of indebtedness in your personal life or no local government can do that. No business can do that and survive

Sam Rohrer:

And

Michele Bachmann:

They fall.

Sam Rohrer:

There you go. We lost you for a moment, Michele. Rephrase that last sentence, whatever you just said.

Michele Bachmann:

It’s the old they fall. And so that’s true of America. America literally end because of bankruptcy. President Trump gets this. We have to have a sense of urgency. I’ve never seen any Republican ever take up this sense of urgency. When I ran for president in 2012, it was because of the sense of urgency. I saw how bad things were going and I knew we had to change quickly. Just here’s another example. Take a look at Argentina and President Malay. He had a sense of urgency that was a country once great country destroyed by communism. He quickly put biblical principles into place. Argentina has completely pulled out of the death spiral economically. It was in that same action is being done by President Trump. So yes, he’s changing things quickly. It has to be changed quickly and everything has to be addressed quickly because so many things, the dials were turned toward communism.

He’s turning the dials back to freedom. And so are there going to be changes and are certain people going to be impacted? Absolutely. But if you want to see success quickly, and he has two years before the midterms, he has to do things positively. And the good thing is all the polling data shows that the people are with him. Not only Republicans and independents, A lot of Democrats are with what President Trump is doing particularly on immigration and the border. But what he is doing, I’ll tell you the biggest thing that he has done is he’s shown us the fraud. And I don’t mean to be partisan when I say this, but what they’ve pulled the covers back from U-S-A-I-D and the money that is literally going from our pocket to the pockets of Democrats, it’s for Democrats and Democrat allies. I’ve never seen anything more blatantly partisan in my life.

The federal government is nothing more than a money laundering operation for Democrats and their allies. They’re stealing our money for themselves. It’s the most selfish operation I’ve ever seen. And again, I don’t say it to be partisan, it’s just blatantly partisan what’s happened at the federal level. And thank God someone like President Trump, can you believe we have the wealthiest man in the world, Elon Musk giving up his time and he and his 100 young geniuses are going through and doing forensic audits of every department of government. Shouldn’t that have been done already? So that’s what he’s doing, and he’s exposing these evil deeds of darkness. This is clearly answered prayer from all your listeners who prayed and fasted over these elections. God’s answered our prayers. We’ve specifically prayed that the evil deeds of darkness would be exposed, and we are getting that. So we are living in the best of times right now.

Sam Rohrer:

And I think that that’s correct. I think with what you’re saying, that exposure of evil is something that must be done when it comes to nations, must be done in the here and now because you can’t judge nations in the hereafter. People will be. But I think this is a part of something that we’ve seen even in the Old Testament examples where for instance, the sins of Jezebel by Jehu who came into being actually, he didn’t lead the country to revival, but he did expose the evils of Jezebel and the Ahab regime because it needed to be done at that point. I almost sense that some of that same thing is going on here. Now, here’s the question. You’ve got Musk, you mentioned him, the Doge efforts going through and doing that, which should have been done. I look and I say, how is it possible that this level of corruption could go for so long in trillions of dollars?

Actually, there were a couple of trillions of dollars that were reported way back under Obama regime that they disappeared. They knew it. It was published, nobody went after it. And now another couple trillion Musk is saying, we have no idea where it went. And he’s called out things in foreign aid as an example, and all of that horrendous corruption you’re talking about. But just to this morning of what I saw correctly, 26 Republicans in the Senate voted to continue the funding of foreign aid. I don’t know what’s going on, have anything to comment on this? Because identifying corruption is one thing, but whether or not something will actually be done about it is a grave concern. What do you think?

Michele Bachmann:

Well, again, that’s the problem with the bubble in Washington dc These people need to feel the heat from their constituents back home. And I think you’re from the state of Pennsylvania, whether it’s John Fetterman or your other senator, they need to know that you want the funding for this theft and corruption to end. They got to hear it because people usually don’t beg government to spend less. People usually beg government to spend more. We have to realize that leads to our destruction. And so it’s really important to say, we got to shut this down because it’s not humanitarian and foreign aid spending. This is actual outright theft of our money going in a pipeline to Democrats and their allies. And again, if this was Republicans, I’d say Republicans, but it’s been identified as Democrats just $2 billion alone. I mean, listen to this. $2 billion alone went to the failed candidate Democrat candidate for Georgia, governor Stacey Abrams.

She’s been involved in every wicked activity there is. And she got $2 billion for the organization that she’s associated with. That doesn’t even include John Podesta, who ran Hillary Clinton’s campaign. We’re talking something like 375 billion being funneled to him for distribution for all of their activities. How do you think these campaigns get paid for? This is my opinion now, this is not your opinion. This is an opinion. And really it’s not even opinion, it’s speculation. I wondered how in the world could the Democrats have $2 billion to spend to elect try to elect Kamala Harris? Well, you wonder how much money came from us, how much money came out of the, because you can’t figure it out. It’s not tied to anything in our record books. It wouldn’t shock me if our money isn’t being stolen out of our back pockets to go to pay for these Democrat campaigns. And if it’s Republicans doing it, they should be exposed too. But this is so wicked. When you found out from U-S-A-I-D that $9.6 billion went to Hamas and Hezbollah, are you kidding? So my money that I’m working for, that I’m handing over is going to foreign terrorists so they can kill Jews in Israel. I mean, this is shameful. Thank God for what President Trump and Elon.

Sam Rohrer:

Absolutely. And ladies and gentlemen, these things that Michele Bachman just said, they are true. These are positive, these are important. But there are so many pieces with so many tentacles. It’s why, among other reasons, we must pray for all of those in authority and communicate to the best that we can. Anyways, when we come back, we’re going to shift to the Middle East. So much is happening there. Alright, Michele, you were talking about the Middle East and how USAID, actually, if you’re talking about using billions of dollars to support Hamas, we wondered how in the world did all those tunnels get built under the ground there in the Gaza and they went through the United Nations? But I wonder how much of our money went through the United Nations to build the tunnels. It’s incredible. But nonetheless, you’ve got a war going on in Gaza.

The ceasefire is now done. Israel’s beginning to take further action there. This killed a Hamas leader just the other day, I believe over in Yemen, across the water we are now, the United States is now engaged in a, well, some have said a multi-week, however long it’s going to take. The president has said, all right, they’ve crossed a line ultimate and complete annihilation, big terms, unbelievable tied into Iran, Iran’s nuclear development. They are supplying the Houthis. This whole thing is now coming together in what would appear to be an unavoidable bigger war. In addition to that, and we’ve talked about on this program, Iran, Russia and China have held joint military training off the coast a couple weeks ago. And then just a few days before the meeting with Russia, Putin and the president, the prime ministers, deputy ministers of those three countries met and they confirmed their full alliance with each other, meaning Russia, China, and Iran’s. Which means if this matter with the Houthis develops further and Iran’s involved likely China and Russia involved too. So therefore I’ve painted the bigger picture. What are your thoughts in that whole circumstances we see developing?

Michele Bachmann:

Well, the significance of what you talked about is what Ezekiel 38 talks about. And that points to a war, a coming future war where you would have the involvement of Turkey and of Iran and of Russia. Now, China isn’t necessarily mentioned in the scripture, but that’s an additional add-on what we know is this. Since 1979, the Ayatollah has made it patently clear, this isn’t a national war. This is a religious war. So this is a religious war by a religious leader in Iran declaring two things unconditionally, death to America, death to Israel. That’s the goal. So the religious war was declared against the United States and the West as of 1979. We’ve seen different iterations of that going up, going down. This was not a unique one-off on October 7th when the horrible war was declared against Israel with the Holocaust that happened that day. But what this is, is this demonstrated that they had a foolish rollout of their war.

They weren’t completely ready for it, but Iran’s effort was to completely surround Israel and take them out. God prevented that from happening, but they’re not giving up rather than this being a quick takeout. This is taking them much longer. Now of course, as we all know, under the Biden administration, they were anti-Israel. They were against Israel. And so they were there supporting Iran. Why do I say that? Just before October 7th, the Biden administration gave Iran unbelievably $6 billion. And after the war started, after the Holocaust began, they gave them an additional 10 billion. Then the Biden administration gave another 10 billion to Iran. It’s like how can an American president reward this religious leader who wants death to America and death to Israel? But the Biden administration did. Now since the election, we have the Trump administration, which is decidedly pro-Israel and pro-America. And so now seeing this play out, Israel no longer has their hands handcuffed and tied behind their back.

Now, rather than the UN being a big player and the Biden administration working with the UN now to be anti-Israel, now we see the tables have changed completely. So now the world is getting right-sided, you might say. And so there’s a clear understanding of who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. And that’s the clarity that Donald Trump has about good guys and bad guys. So he’s not perfect in the way that he is running this war. I have some real concerns, especially with statements made by the envoy, Steve Wolf in the Middle East region, that I have real concerns about that because it’s imperative that there’s an understanding that this is a global Islamic jihad. We’re seeing it play out in the Middle East, but it’s also taking place across the world. So we have to be looking out for American interests.

And also for those of us who are believers, we’re very concerned about Israel and standing with blessing Israel. I really do believe that we’re seeing tremendous advances right now in the Middle East for Israel’s interests. But for instance, when it comes to Gaza, we don’t want the United States to own Gaza. That’s not ours to own. Joel chapter three verse two makes it clear that Israel’s land belongs to Israel, no other nation. And so this isn’t a real estate project we’re talking about. This is God’s global biblical timeline. He will have his way, but for us to be helping Israel, we don’t want our boots on the ground, but we are giving Israel the aid and assistance that they deserve and need because American interests are advanced in the Middle East region, which is an absent hellhole by Israel being strong. And so for us to strengthen Israel’s hand is a good thing right now, again, the evil that happened under the Biden administration is that every bad actor in the world was given a green light. Now Donald Trump has said, Hey, green light over now it’s a red light bad guys. So all the bad guys have to go back to the caves and raffles that they live in. And that’s what we’re seeing right now. The bad guys are realizing we’re not going to fund them anymore. They’re going to go back to their rat holes. And that’s the sixth story that Doge let us know that we were actually funding these global bad guys and that money flow is going to end

Sam Rohrer:

As of now. And Michele, all of that you’re saying there, I mean that’s really excellent to take and pull all that together because all of these pieces are what the United States does towards Israel, blessing or not that the fact that the corruption in the evil were actually American dollars were being used against Israel. That’s on the cursing side of the equation. Now, there’s a little bit of on the blessing side, but as you’re saying, Ezekiel 38 and 39, you’ve got the nations aligning. You’ve got the Russia, you’ve got the Iran, you have the Turkey. Now moving down into Syria, all of these things as you said, I just want to emphasize again, you can’t take out the fact that God’s hand is moving in the affairs of men and moving and directing the hearts of kings, whether they are favorable to Israel, kings of Israel or the enemies of Israel to accomplish God’s plan. There’s something about that. This is incredible to watch, isn’t it?

Michele Bachmann:

And what this tells us is that the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ is sooner than anyone anticipates. So no matter who is in the White House or what’s happening in other elections, all of these things are being geared as you say, because God knows the time, time Bill, he’s omniscient. He knows the end from the beginning, the beginning of the end. But all of these matters, I mean just this last weekend and the weekend before, what we’re seeing happening in Turkey right now, this is telling us with all the mobs coming against the current leader Erdogan and the potentially a regime change in Turkey, this is huge. And how Turkey is aligning with Syria and Syria is being run. Many of your listeners may not know. The guy was formerly the head of ISIS. All he did is he cut his beard, took off his turban, and he’s wearing a nicely cut American suit.

So now it’s terrorists in suits. So this is Al-Qaeda sitting right on Israel’s border. And this is again where I’m a little concerned about our own state department. I’m not seeing a lot of red flags being sounded about this new regime in Syria. We should not under no circumstances help this new regime in Syria. They’re killing tens of thousands of people, whether they’re alloy Christian, Druze, other people. This is a tremendous evil. We’ve never seen this level of kinetic activity in Syria up until Biden, or I’m sorry, Trump defeating Isis when he was in power. And then also we haven’t seen this kind of unrest in Turkey. So what’s important, and we’ll probably talk about this later, but let me just say now in your show, this is the moment for believers. This is our moment to be in prayer because things are moving at such a speed.

We need to recognize that God, he’s going to return again in the form of the Lord Jesus Christ. And depending on what your ex of Jesus is, we are leaving this world and we are going to be with the Lord. That’s what the scripture tells us. We will be with the Lord. And so this is the time for prayer for what’s happening in the world, but having our eyes open, advancing the scripture, this is not the time to be asleep. This is the most exciting time in the history of recorded human history. We have 5,000 years of recorded human history on this earth. This is the most exciting biblical time to be alive because we very well will be alive to see the return of Messiah. And so we need to be about the father’s business now more than ever. That’s why your show is so crucial, Sam, so that your listeners know

Sam Rohrer:

What

Michele Bachmann:

The time is.

Sam Rohrer:

And Michele, you are right in the center of the target of the bullseye. And ladies and gentlemen, this is not new what Michele is saying, but it is a reminder to all those who have ears to hear God fearing and those who are anticipating the return of Christ, which we talked about so much, we encourage each other with that. We set our lives and our priorities with that. That’s what scripture says. We’ll come back. We’ll complete this thought about doing work. Well, before we go into our final thoughts here today, just want to thank all of you who are with us right now for being with us today to also ask you to, as we have talked about and talking today, the arm of Rochelle Bachman, myself, talking about what’s happening in Washington, the President and all that we see happening. The whole world is in change.

Literally everything. The alliances of nations are changing. Friends are becoming enemies in some cases. Enemies are becoming more enemies in many cases, and things are unfolding of a nature such as, well, I don’t know. There’s an historical precedent for it. And as we have talked, we need to pray for those who are our President and those that are there around them very clearly. Not all are believers, very clearly. Not all have an understanding of scripture, not all even know who the Lord is. We know that. However, there is an action in a forward movement that is taking place. At least we know because the Lord is driving at the heart of the king, is in the hand of the Lord and like rivers of water, he drives it wither. So he will every person in every position, every Psalm, chapter two, king, king of economics, business leaders, the oligarchs of the world, king’s political leaders, all of those in possessions of authority who we know in these days are lifting their fists towards God.

God is moving their hearts. So in the midst of all of this where we have an ability, as long as we have our breath and we fear God, we should do what the Lord says. And one of those things is pray for all of those in authority. For what reason? Well, for many reasons, but one of ’em that we live a quiet and peaceful life, that the gospel can continue to go forward and so many other things. I put that out there. So as you are thinking about that need, and I also say that we have a need here for as long as the Lord gives us breath here on this program and this ministry, we need God’s help. We need the provision of funds in order to make it happen. As you’re listening to me, you are the mechanism through who God delivers and can make that to happen.

So can I ask you to be more fervent in your prayer partnering with us and also your financial partnering with us? It’s very, very important. Very, very important. I just put it out there and I’ll let it at that. Michele, let’s go back here and wrap this up. As I just mentioned, and we know the world’s in transition. That’s the name of our program today, A world in transition, our nation’s in transition, the nations of the world are in transition. The Middle East, everything is in transition. China is flexing muscles. Just the other day I just saw that they’re right now up in space. They’re having their satellites that they put in space are involved in dog fighting practices. The threat there is that they could take out our satellite system. It’s amazing. Russia is emboldened Israel surrounded and hopefully not trusting too much in the United States, but we know that that happens as well where God gets Israel to the point where there is no place to look but up and they turn to him. And that is our prayer. But it seems like Bill Biblical prophecy, as you said, is unfolding at lightning speed. So in the view of these things, there is a window of time before the Lord returns. We’re still here, still have breath, that we need to be busy about the right things. All right. Let me ask you, just taking the balance of this program here and fill out what should fear God be doing in these days?

Michele Bachmann:

Well make sure that you are attending a gospel oriented church. It’s extremely important that you are in strong fellowship right now with other believers because the marvelous thing about the world in transition is that we see that there is one framework that explains reality and works in reality. That’s the biblical framework. So it doesn’t even matter where in the Bible you’re studying, whether it’s Genesis or Revelation or something in between. We need to state more deeply tied to the world to the word, because the world is embracing deception, whereas the Bible embraces truth and reality. So here’s something that we need to add to this world in transition. It’s something that we don’t really have a lot of control over. It’s an artificial intelligence. We are stepping out of the era that we have known for all of our lives. We’re now moving into a new era based with artificial intelligence.

So all of the areas and subject matters that we’ve talked about today, artificial intelligence will in some respects, not completely override, but will dominate and change war, food, production life as we know it, employment, it will impact everything in the world and very, very quickly. And so the fallout from that is that deception will grow because there are people who want deception to grow in this world because what is the man? Man wants to dominate and control other men? And the story of history is the story of cruelty man’s cruelty to other men. And so artificial intelligence is a potential tool in transition as the world is in transition to dominate and control other people. We need to be conversant about the Bible and about truth so we can save others, bring others in. But we need to realize how quickly things are going to change.

And because of artificial intelligence and the coming deception that can come with that, artificial intelligence isn’t all bad, but just realize it depends on who controls it. Those people who want dominance and control, they always seek to control those levers of power. So again, what I’m trying to say is that we need to be, if you’re in a good church, great, but make sure that you’re in an even better discipleship group, the people that you surround yourself with. So you’re building yourself up, building your children up, building your community up in the word, because ultimately that’s who we have, those who we trust in the word, because we’ll love and good works and all of the things that Jesus wants us to be in community. That’s what we can express to one another. I think as the world is moving more and more toward artificial intelligence and the evil of the world, the love of Jesus Christ, the love of the brethren will be the most attractive commodity that there is.

And so as we are living in Christ serving one another in love, people will be attracted to that because that’s unlike anything that the world can produce. Artificial intelligence can’t create that. And so we need to do that within our families, but also our neighborhood and in our church and in our local community, that’s where we begin because we are moving out of whether we like it or not, we’re moving out of an era that we’ve known all of our lives. We’re moving into a new era. But what remains yesterday, today, and tomorrow is Jesus Christ. That will never change. I am more excited about being a believer today than I’ve ever been. There’s no excuse not to witness. Amen. It’s the joy of the Lord. This is the greatest time ever in history to witness and to bring more in and then through discipleship, to demonstrate that love through Jesus Christ, so that we are loving the brethren. It’s the greatest time to be alive and demonstrate the love of Jesus Christ.

Sam Rohrer:

And with that, Michele, we’re right at the close of the program. Thank you so very, very much for that challenge. Thank you for your testimony. I pray the Lord continues to give you great strength and energy and to continue to put forth the truth. And ladies and gentlemen, let us take what has been heard today, be encouraged in the Lord, make sure that you know him first of all. Then secondly, make sure that you in fact, are grounded on His word and increasingly pray for wisdom. We need it. The Lord will give it. And with that, thanks again for being with us today. May the Lord be with you. Lord willing, be back here tomorrow and then I’ll see you the balance of the week as well.