Ask Sam – Current Events
June 13, 2025
Host: Dr. Isaac Crockett
Co-host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 6/13/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Isaac Crockett:
Well, hello, I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett. I’m the pastor of East Lawrence Baptist Church up in the northern part of Pennsylvania, and my co-host today is the Honorable Sam Rohr and he’s down in south of Redding, Pennsylvania. In the studio there, he’s the president of the American Pastor’s Network in the regular host of this program. Staying in the Gap Today, this is a stand in the gap. Ask Sam Friday. Friday the 13th edition. And on today’s Ask Sam program, we’re wanting to hit some really big issues that we’ve talked a lot about, but tied into the current events, things that you’re hearing every day this week. So the three critical issues we’re going to try to get into right now are just things that are really shaking our nation up. The first is media coverups. We’ve had a book that’s come out about the Biden coverups, and there’s just more and more and more coming from that book.
We’re going to talk, Lord willing about the riots in Los Angeles and then a runaway government spending issue that is just continuing to grab headlines. So everything from Jake Tapper’s new book, exposing Biden and His Decline to Troops on American Streets. We want to look at this through biblical lens and say, how do we as Christians discern truth and how do we respond biblically to these headlines? So we’re going to hopefully unpack these things by asking Sam for some practical biblical, scriptural, constitutional wisdom, and there’s a lot to do. But Sam, do you think it’s a coincidence that we’re talking about some of these things on Friday the 13th?
Sam Rohrer:
That’s an interesting, and as soon as you said Friday 13th, I said, oh yeah, I forgot that it actually is, but it is, no, I’m not superstitious that way, that Friday 13th means anything, but because the Lord says one day is like another, and so what we’re talking about today was just as significant yesterday and it will be tomorrow.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, we do have some scary things to talk about. I want to start with one very, very scary horror book that I just read, and that was about a 350 page book called Original Sin President Biden’s Decline, its Coverup and his Disastrous Choice to Run Again. And of course, Jake Tapper is the main author of this and he and another reporter who also has worked with CNN, and it really was frightening to read all the juicy details, many of which you were already aware of back in 2023 and 24, even back in 2020 and beyond before that. But this book, Jake Tapper sheds light on incidences where it was very obvious to all of those in the room and especially to the close confidants of Biden, that President Biden had confusion that he was not running the country at times. Some of them say there were times that he was good, but there were a lot of cognitive issues going on and the media outlets continually tried to soften these stories. They try to kind of twist these stories. And so I’m wondering when we see these sort of things coming to light truth, coming to light as the Bible tells us that our sins will be found out and things done in secret shall be made known, how should Christians view news sources that seem to put their own spin or their own narrative on it rather than truth? And what does scripture say about this kind of deception?
Sam Rohrer:
I think Isaac, that I wouldn’t just put the media. I think I’d go beyond as a believer and say any input that comes from the world, whether it’s the media, whether it’s what’s governments, whether it is, whatever it may be, it is in the realm of that which is controlled by the prince and the power of the air right now. And that is the devil himself and he is Mr. Deception himself. So we know that. So I think in reality we are living in a deceptive world. That’s what scripture makes. Very, very clear. We are in days of deception and as we approach the return of Christ, deception will become, put it this way, more demonically deceptive. So deception goes even beyond and beyond that. So I think even in a case like the Biden coverup that’s covered in that book, I mean, what was that?
It was a coverup deception, but literally we have been under the hammer or the influence of deception from media and the political scene for decades. I mean, just think about it, what did COVID demonstrate as an example? And that was five years ago. What did that demonstrate when that came on the scene? Well was how the whole world could be deceived all at one time. And then we learned that the government itself was telling us flat out lies. Now that has been proven, alright, so that was an example. Everyone knows that Doge, the efforts of the Trump administration and Doge going in and finding out all of these trillions of dollars that have been literally spent, the enemy has been given, they have been laundered to make individual people rich. To me, when I look at that, I say, what is actually being demonstrated? Well between COVID, between Doge and between Tapper’s book? I think the Lord in his justice is bringing to the front what God does best and that is bring to light that which is true. So these things are being manifest, but I don’t think anything’s being done about them. Nobody’s going to go to jail on any of these things. So I think what we’re witnessing is God bringing forth and saying, look, people, look what is happening. You’ve been living under deception for a long time and in reality it’s going to become even more deceptive.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, I love how you’re saying everything you’re saying is so helpful there and you’re right this world and there are people who are players in it, parts of it that they don’t even realize who’s really controlling it. The prince of the power of this heir Satan, satanic influences are controlling things that they don’t even realize. And that’s why I think it’s so important that God has given us this avenue to share the light where to walk his children of light. So here at Stand in the Gap media, through the partnership with American Pastors Network and our many partners, our goal is to spread spiritual truth. And I think this is so important and I think of Proverbs 18 verse 17, it talks about that the first person to present their case will seem right until the next guy presents his case. And so many times you hear it from the media, you hear one side and you just think, oh no, but you need to wait. You need to look into the facts and we need to look into the Bible and consider what the Bible says about this. But Sam, in a little bit of time we have here just a few seconds. What can pastors do? What can believers do to counter the stories of this world and the narratives of this world? How can we tell the truth to our communities?
Sam Rohrer:
Well, I think in reality it starts with ourselves and I dealt with a program with Dr. Carl Bruge, June 4th on identifying and avoiding deception. I encourage people to go back and listen to that, but at the end of the day we summarized it by saying the only way you can identify deception is by knowing and be immersed in the truth. Ultimately, God’s word says fear God and keep his commandments. That’s why we go to scripture, that’s why we should memorize scripture. All of those things we talked about the idea of that we avoid if we must avoid pride because pride goes before a fall. Pride sets us up for deception. Well, how do we avoid pride by remaining dependent upon God, being grateful for all that comes into our lives, fearing God, keeping his commands, and there were actually five we did altogether, but that’s where I would go, Isaac, the word of God as the authority must actually in real life be our authority against which we compare everything that we hear and everything that we see.
Isaac Crockett:
I love that, Sam. We need to be reading the word of God, learning it, praying for discernment. Go to stand in the gap media.org. Go to the last interview that Sam did with Carl Brogue. I think you said it was June 4th. Listen to that again. Go to other parts of stand in the gap media.org and find some of this out. We need biblical resources and we need God’s discernment when we get that through prayer, reading our Bible, being involved in a good church. Well, when we come back, we want to look at the LA riots and what that means for justice and order. We’ll be back very shortly. Welcome back to the program. This is our Friday edition and ask Sam Friday edition, pastor Isaac Crockett. And of course I’m asking questions to Sam, the honorable Sam Rohr, the president of the American Pastors Network and the regular host of this program.
We’re about to start talking about the chaos in Los Angeles, and this is what been hearing about the last number of days we’re seeing dangerous riots in the media. It’s saying that supposedly this is the result of Trump’s recent immigration crackdowns and the last numbers I was seeing, I think it was 2000 National Guard troops on the streets, maybe other military marines and things going there. Sam, I want to look at the constitutional and the legal issues going on, but before we go into all of that, let’s talk about something that you and I have talked about already on television on a few programs, and you’ve talked about often on this program, and that’s the balancing, having a biblical understanding of all of this balancing, for example, the teachings of Romans 13 where the government is there to uphold order to bless those who do good, to punish those who do evil.
Micah six eight says that we are to do justice for the Lord and balancing that with times where we’re told to have mercy and help the strangers and have compassion on our neighbor, to love our neighbor and to steam others better than ourselves. And as we apply this to this immigration debate, I want to make sure that we have a good biblical understanding of it. This is very personal for me. My wife was not born here in the United States. She was born overseas and came here. My mom grew up overseas. My grandparents came here after the World War II and my mom grew up in a different country. When she came back to America with her family, they talked about trying to lose their foreign accents and blend in. One of our co-host Dave Kistler, his wife is Hispanic, her parents both from Mexico. So this isn’t that we’re saying no immigrants at all, but we’re talking about the difference between illegal immigration cracking down on that and could you give us a quick overview? I know we’ve done whole programs on this, but a quick overview of how we balance that. The Romans 13 things with the being kind and neighborly parts of the scriptures.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, I can’t, I tried to do it very quickly. Romans 13 is the passage as you cited, that God lays out that tells us that God’s plan for human society is ordered by God, it is sanctioned by God, it is structured by God, and it is all about authority in every case. Romans 13 is not just speaking about civil government, it’s speaking about all authority. So that’s mom and dad, that’s in the home, that’s teachers in the classroom that may be a business employer who has an employee and does specifically clearly speak about civil government. That government itself that has the sword and that’s how we know it is civil government. But the ordering of authority is every person in a position of structure that God has laid out, those that I just mentioned, they all have the same obligation and that is in God’s stead to reflect the justice of God.
Well, what is the character nature and justice of God? It is summed up in you protect those, you bless those who keep the law. Now all of them is talking about keeping God’s law, which government should do, but they often make up their own and you punish those who break the law and the sword simply means to capital punishment. It means that the civil government has the ability to take one’s life that’s not given to any of the other authorities, but it is to government, okay, not being the case. That’s what it’s there for. So to that extent, government’s purpose is not to be the compassionate soul. That’s the purpose of the church. That’s us as individuals who care for our neighbors and help the widows and do the things that the New Testament really calls out in specific terms for the function of the Christian government’s function is to basically make sure that the family can do what the family’s supposed to do and the parents do what the family they’re supposed to do and what the church is supposed to do.
Make sure that those things are able to function as God intends. Now, when those in government are godly in righteous, they will protect those who do well, the law keeper, and they will punish according to God’s determination, those who break the law. But when the ungodly are in government, the people mourn because those who are in government forget that they are ministers of God, servants of God, and they think that they are God and then they therefore become tyrants who use the sword, the sword that God gave them to punish the law keeper oftentimes and to protect the law breaker, and that’s the kind of thing that we’re into right now. But that goes to the heart of this whole aspect that as individuals though we must follow the law except to the point it transcends God’s law, but we are always should be looking for looking and focusing on the soul of the person, the neighbor or whoever, where we can share the gospel and point them to Jesus Christ. That’s how we balance that positions and roles functioning according to how God has actually laid them out.
Isaac Crockett:
Well Sam, thank you. I think that is so important that we get to that part first because that’s where people on all sides of this need to have that biblical balance and what you just described is a very balanced view because it’s biblical. Let’s go into the legal and the constitution part of it. There’s an article that just came out this week, June 10th I think was the last time that it was updated NPR article titled Sending Troops to LA in Unnecessary Escalations as California Attorney General. This was written by a Martinez and Jan Johnson. In it is part of the interview that a Martinez did on Morning Edition and in it he says to California Attorney General Rob Bonta, he says to Attorney General from California, he says, you’ve called President Trump’s deployment of the National Guard unlawful as you see it. What laws is he breaking?
To which Rob Bonta, the Attorney General for California, says he’s violating 10 USC 1 24 0 6, which is the statute that he relies on. He goes on and he says that the president is unable to use these regular forces to execute the laws of the United States, and he says none of the things that this law would call for. He’s talking about none of those things are present. Sam, there’s this back and forth between Governor Newsom and the Attorney General of California with President Trump and the federal people that he’s working with each kind of blaming each other and saying Trump doesn’t have the authority to send in troops legally, constitutionally. Do you see a concern with what President Trump is doing sending these troops to an American city?
Sam Rohrer:
No, but no. I’ll explain that in a minute. No, I don’t. However, any use of federal troops by any president and within and doing it within individual sovereign states is always a concern and should always be very, very carefully done. Now, I’m going to say that upfront, but I’m going to say that it has precedence. For instance, I’m going to give you a few here right now, the activation of troops is normally what it is is a calling up of state militias. That’s what the Constitution talks about and it’s morphed into our state militias being called State national Guards. It’s been done over seven times. George Washington 1792 was the first he called them up the militia acts of 1792. Congress passed that and it was to suppress what people may remember in history as the whiskey rebellion. Abraham Lincoln did it again in the Civil War in April, 1861.
He called up the state militias because that became the Civil War. Now in reality, Congress should be the ones to call up the guards, but they’ve given some of that authority to the President. Here’s another one here. President Eisenhower called up the Arkansas National Guard, 1200 of them to Little Rock, and I won’t go into all of what was happening here in 1957, John F. Kennedy activated the Mississippi Guard over the protests of Governor George Wallace in Mississippi in 1962. Governor George Wallace did not want that to happen, but it happened. JFK did it. Lyndon Bain Johnson in 65 called up the Alabama Guard to quell protest in Selma, Alabama, and people know what was happening there. In 1967, there were over 160 riots. This may be very typical of what’s happening this summer, 160 riots and what was called the Long hot summer of 1967. Now, that was LBJ he again called up, he called up 8,000 Michigan Guard and in an additional 5,000, so 13,005,000 federal troops to quell the riots that were happening around the country then.
Then one last more, one in 1992 interesting in Los Angeles, same city we’re talking about Rodney King affair. People remember that riots were going on for three days. It was George W. Bush invoked the Insurrection Act, and that’s what Trump said he may do because it actually allows more than what he’s done. Bush invoked the Insurrection Act and Federalized 6,000 California Guard. He sent in the FBI SWAT teams and federal riot control police as well as 4,500 soldiers. Now in that riot, in that riot in la, there was over a billion dollars in damage all the way back in 1992. That would be many times that 60 people were killed. So in reality, it has happened before, but I’m saying it should always be done with great care because it can go too far, but it has happened in more than one case.
Isaac Crockett:
So that’s a very good answer there that you want to be careful, but there are times that call for it and these could be those times and you just cited historical evidence of some of the other times that has become necessary. There’s more questions. I’d like to get into that with that, but I want to come back and talk about the big beautiful spending bill that has made a lot of headlines, but we’re going to take another time out to hear from our partners and I hope you’ll stay tuned because we want to come back and talk about this other important thing. But in the meantime, even while you’re listening, let’s be in prayer for our nation. Let’s be in prayer for this situation in Los Angeles and other places, New York City and places like that. Remember, please check stand in the gap.org for resources that we’ve already talked about at past shows about biblical justice, immigration, a lot of information there.
Thank you, Sam for the great help for your answers here. When we come back, we want to talk about spending in biblical stewardship. We’ll be right back on Staying in the Gap. Well welcome back to Staying in the Gap today. If you’re just joining us, we’re asking Sam some of the big questions about the big events going on this week in our nation and around the world, and we’re about to get into government spending. That is a huge topic because it’s so huge. Congress keeps passing these massive bills often with questionable priorities, adding to our nation’s debt, adding to our children and grandchildren’s debt. But before we talk about government spending, I want to go to our program producer, Tim Schneider here at the American Pastors Network. We get a lot done with a little bit of money opposite of the government and ask Tim to give us some updates about the resources, free resources that we offer here at Stand in the Gap Media.
Tim Schneider:
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Isaac Crockett:
Alright, well thank you very much for that Tim. Sam, let’s talk about this huge problem. We have the national debt and there’s been a lot, I think especially because there’s been a lot of light shed on this with Doge trying to make different cuts and things and now Elon Musk having kind of a public falling out with Donald Trump saying it’s not a big beautiful bill, it’s a big bad bill or something like that and they’ve gone back and forth. I’m looking at the US debt clock.org right now. Our national debt according to this website is saying 36,969,691 million and after that the numbers just keep rolling faster and faster. Sam, as we think about government spending, as we think about this bill that’s trying to make its way through Senate and Congress, the Bible warns us, Proverbs 22 7 and other places that those who are in debt are enslaved to those who hold their debt. How should Christians view our government spending right now? How should they view this debt that just keeps increasing and really what is at stake for our future?
Sam Rohrer:
Isaac, I’ve thought about how to answer this in a short fashion, but when I consider in the individual perspective because scripture speaks to finances individually and he also speaks to the matter of finances nationally, in both cases they’re similar and that is from the standpoint of if you borrow, the borrower will become servant to the lender. Now that’s what everyone should remember. That is a biblical principle. If you borrow from someone, you become subject to their dictates and we all know that if you don’t pay your house mortgage, the bank’s going to come and take your house, that kind of thing. So that’s clear on a national level it’s a little harder to determine because who’s going to come and take our house, our nation? Well, here’s where a principle I would put down. Borrowing always and slaves, overspending always creates borrowing. So overspending, spending more than you have will necessitate always borrowing from somebody and borrowing will always put the borrower in a position of subservience it enslaves.
Now, as a nation or as an individual frankly, when the point comes where you know are overspending and you cannot pay back what you have as an example, but you continue to do it anyways, well what’s that? The description of foolishness, at the very least it it’s foolishness, but it’s also on a crash course because the end is it’s going to come due. You cannot avoid the principle that God lays out. Alright? Now, in a case of government for a long time, because the matter of overspending, when I say overspending, spending more than comes in or oftentimes overspending also involves illegitimate spending, spending on those things which are not the core functions of government right now, what is the core function of government? We just talked about it. It is those things necessitating the protection and the handling of those who keep the law. So your military is a part of that on a local level, your police are part of that.
Those are functions of things that you are to do constitutionally, it’s specified because our constitution mirrors the principle, the Bible, but when government spends on things that government is not called to do by God’s word or particularly in our country, the Constitution, then what does it become? It becomes illegitimate spending, and I’m going to put it this way, legalized theft because now what’s happening is the government, because it has the power, the sword, it can actually force people to give up their private property, which belongs to them. But for things that government was never authorized to do constitutionally and or by God’s word, that’s the part that we’ve been in for a long time. Isaac and I could go further on this, but when that happens and that happened within Israel, the nation of old that God laid out these rules for that we have attempted to follow theoretically here in the country, what it does is that when legalized theft becomes a way of government and those in government find out that they can actually live beyond their means, it always involves the people because the people also get involved in it because they can figure it out.
How can I get money from government illegitimately? And that’s what Ezekiel chapter 22, it referred to as bribery and corruption. And when bribery and corruption becomes established in government, which it has in hours for a long time, the result of it is justice crashes and scripture speaks to justice falling in the street. Justice has fallen in the street in America. Now when that happens, it’s the result of violating God’s commandments. Don’t fear God and keep his command. We’re going to do our own thing. We think we can avoid it somehow and we can get around this principle that God has laid out, but I’m going to submit that according to God’s word, when debt of the magnitude that we have and the mindset of the people is we’re just going to keep on doing it. It confirms that man has become God, government has become God, they think, and it confirms the judgment of God is in process.
In Deuteronomy 28, God told Israel, God and keep my commandments. And when you do that, I’m going to give you blessing and you will be the lender, you’ll be the head, and others will be the borrowers. They’ll be the tail. And God says, if you don’t fear me and you don’t keep my commandments, one of the things that will happen is you will now be subject to your lenders and those things that you thought you had, these blessings, these evidences of prosperity, you’re going to lose ’em all. And one of the things I find Isaac that is interesting that aligns with what’s happening in Los Angeles is in Deuteronomy chapter 28, 1 of the things that says will happen when a nation walks away from God, which ours has, it says in verse 43, the stranger that is within you, the stranger is the illegal alien.
The stranger that is within you shall get up very high above you and you will come down very low. God said to Israel that when you violate my law, America founded on God’s principles or on biblical principles, we’ve done the same thing we’ve allowed in the stranger. The stranger is the illegal alien. These weren’t the foreigners that came there that wanted to become Israelites or Jews. In our case, people who’ve come to America not to become Americans, but they came to America to get some of the bribed money that was being handed out to them. God said, those people are enemies and when they come into the country they will arise within you and that’s a mark of God’s judgment. I’m seeing a coalescing of these things and it is a problem because there is not the mentality of our political leaders. They talk about debt, they talk about borrowing Isaac, but they do nothing about it and that’s an evidence of foolishness and therefore it’s a problem.
Isaac Crockett:
It’s a big problem and a lot of foolishness. Jesus talks a lot in the gospel accounts of those who are faithful and little will be trusted with much. And so we have people trusted with a lot who are doing a horrible job with of managing it out of their selfishness, out of this corruption. So many things going on. And really the root of all of these goes back to selfishness, pride, sin. We have more to talk about, but we want to pray for our leaders. We want to ask the Lord for biblical wisdom and please come back. We’re going to be back on this station to wrap things up right after this partner timeout. Well welcome back. Time flies when you’re having fun or when you’re asking a lot of hard questions to Sam because this program has just gone by so fast, hard to believe.
We’re at the fourth segment already ready to wrap up, but again, I’m Isaac Crockett and we’ve been asking the hard questions to Sam Rohr. We’ve talked about media, deception, the LA riots and immigration and justice and government spending. All of these issues test our faith. All of these issues could make us anxious or fearful if we didn’t have the Lord. But let’s wrap this up with how Christians can stand in the gap for our nation. That title of the name of our program stand in the Gap. There’s an important scripture back in the Old Testament in Ezekiel 22 verse 30, and the prophet says that God is talking and says, I sought for a man among them that should make up the hedge and stand in the gap before me for the land that I should not destroy it, but I found none. And Sam, we are looking for people that will stand in the gap so that God will continue to help us.
We want God to bless America, but more importantly, we want America to bless and to praise God once again and to stand in the gap for truth. Everything from the media coverups that we started out talking to you about, to the rioting in LA to this huge burdensome debt that humanly speaking appears impossible to get out from underneath. What are some of the common threads? You and I were just talking about this during the break, but what are some of the common threads that you see and how does a biblical worldview help guide our response so that we can during these important days, we can know how to stand in the gap for truth?
Sam Rohrer:
Isaac, that’s a great question and it actually takes us back to a TV program that we did. You and I recorded, it’ll be airing some days in the future here because the way we do the tv, but it happened to cover them of this, and it was the concept of how can we interpret global events, big national events, international events, how do we consider those things in light of scripture? And we talked about the fact that only when we take the headline news of which we’ve just talked about a few today and we didn’t even go overseas, there’s big things happening around the world, but these big events that come into our heads and our ears and our eyes, how do we take and make sense out of them? And we talked about on that program you and JR McGee and I did, and the idea that you really cannot make sense of these big events of what is happening unless you are looking through the lens in the prism of a biblical worldview and God’s word because the things that we talked about today, debt and the harm that it brings to a nation.
Well, where did we go? We went and we cited scriptures verses from scripture, and scripture tells us about no nation ever in the history of the world individual ever escapes these principles. We talked about the purpose of government and all of the things in which they’re involved in that ties in with the president. Does he call up the soldiers for what’s happening in Los Angeles? We’ve talked about lawbreakers and we’ve talked about law abiders. All of the things that we’ve talked about today are all, they’re the elements of the headline news, but we can’t make sense of them unless we go to what God says about ’em. But if we do, and this is the other side, when we do though, we can know with certainty that these things which we are seeing are either the result because we know from scripture of reaping and sowing, you can’t overspend forever and think that you’re going to get away with no price to pay.
You cannot, as I cited from Deuteronomy 28, you cannot invite in illegal aliens, which is what Israel did. They let open the borders. They did not have to become a part of the nation. They let them, they were illegal, and just like we have done and expect that there’s not going to be some harm from it, we see all these things working out. The point being Isaac is that God’s word in the authority in what it teaches us, it gives us the confidence and it gives us the ability to understand and put into perspective what we are seeing no matter what age in which we’re living. It also tells us, because our understanding of prophecy, what will be happening in the days to come, it’ll tell us, and it does tell us that in the midst of this, as God’s people, God will meet our needs.
And not to be anxious. Jesus said in Matthew 24, these things are going to happen in these days of deception. We started the program on that. These things will begin to intersect and they will increase in both intensity and frequency describing birth pangs, which leads up to what scripture talks about these coming days when the Christ will come back. All of these things, Isaac, we’ve talked about, gives us an indication of what is to come, but it anchors us in truth so that we are not perplexed and anxious and failing to do what God has put us here to do, like the rest of the world that is increasingly confused and anxious and not having any clue what’s happening. We as believers, God has given us the word, therefore we should not be like that. So I put a whole lot in that, but hopefully that helps in answering that question.
Isaac Crockett:
Yes. Yeah, that’s helpful context there. And as we have time at the end of this program, I’m hoping we have time to have you close this in prayer. There’s a lot that we didn’t get into. We didn’t even mention this plane crash on Thursday in India. It killed hundreds from India and England and Canada. I don’t know if there were other countries, and then of course, we’re still talking about what’s going on with the riots and the defiance and spending bill, all these things, but some see this as chaos, but in it all, as Christians, we can see opportunities to be a light in a gospel witness. You just talked about balancing that not being concerned, not having fear for ourselves, but trusting the Lord and praying, what can we do? Is he think about America’s future? Can we pray for our leaders? How can we pray for our communities? How can we pray for our churches at these times? And maybe if you have time to answer that, and if there’s still time, you could close us in prayer.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, Isaac, I think we, in this agent which we live right now, we know that we are very close to the return of Christ in the rapture of the church. How do we know that? Well, because Israel is back in the land. That’s a part of our prophetical understanding. We know that because of nations and alliance that are being put together, the focus on Israel now, all of the things of which the scripture speaks. So we know that we are in days that are very close to the return of Christ. Okay? Now, what does that do for us? Well, as believers, that should motivate us to be more intent than ever in the sharing of the gospel, sharing with our neighbors, helping to point people to the reality that unless we are anchored in salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, we are not prepared for that which will come.
We also know in these days that Jesus says, as in the days of Noah, very lawless times, are we not seeing that in the days of lot very immoral times? Are we not seeing that? That these are things that the Lord tells those with eyes to see, and ears to hear, to be aware of these things, not to make us anxious. He says, don’t be perplexed. These things have to come. They should be motivators for us. Not that we’re not concerned, but we’re not perplexed and anxious wondering if there is any purpose or direction for where things are going. No, Jesus said there is a direction. It’s the result of collectively people walking away not fearing God and keep his commandments, but those who trust in Jesus Christ. Our feet are always anchored. They are fully grounded, and we are not to be moved. Jesus, for us, God is always our refuge and strength, a very present help in time of need. I think times of need are coming. Jesus says that, but again, he will walk through with us whatever the circumstances are, and I think that is the greatest assurance that a person can have. The world around us has no assurance. We should lead them there. Heavenly Father, thank you for this opportunity today. Pray that those who are listening are more firmly anchored in your word and trust in you. We pray in Jesus’ name. Amen.
Isaac Crockett:
Amen. Well, thank you so much for that, Sam, for sharing your wisdom. If you’re just listening for the first time today, I hope you appreciate what we’re doing here, really standing out as we stand up for the Lord. For those of you who listen regularly, you appreciate what Sam’s doing and giving us these key insights, please pray for us here at the American Pastors Network and stand in the gap. And until next time, I hope that you will stand in the gap for truth wherever you are today.
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