Free-will at the Heart of Good Health

Free-will at the Heart of Good Health

July 3, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Dr. Lee Vliet

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 7/03/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Thursday edition of Stand In the Gap. Today it’s a day before Independence Day. I hope that you are all well going to be doing something or perhaps already have. Last night, I and my family and lot of my church family gathered together for outreach to community, had of over 1500 people and had a great time, but it was anticipation of celebrating our day tomorrow. Now we’re going to have a special program tomorrow, David New will be with me and that will be a focus tomorrow. So if you’re able listen to that, I think it’ll be a day of encouragement. Now that being the case today though, we’re going to focus on health and the role of personal responsibility, generally a program or two per month I do on health or health freedom, things related to that. Today I’ve asked Dr. Lee Vliet, president and CEO of Truth for Health Foundation and creator of the Medicine and Ministry program that she’s established in her area of the country, which is out west from here in Pennsylvania.

But to join me again, I’ve asked her to join me again for a look at our focus today. And the title I’ve chosen is this Free Will at the Heart of Good Health, free Will at the Heart of Good Health. And you’ll see how these pieces fit together as we go through the program. On February 13th of this year, Donald Trump issued executive order 14 2 1 2 establishing what it’s called there In that EO, the presidents Make America Healthy Again commission and in this executive order a full assessment of the nation’s. And this is the purpose for Nation’s childhood chronic disease crisis. That was the focus. That childhood chronic disease crisis was ordered by this executive order and it was to be delivered within a hundred days and then 80 days later, within a hundred days of the executive order, a full strategy as it states in the executive order full strategy for implementation of the recommendations.

Now the 72 page assessment, the first part, the a hundred day obligation has now been completed and it’s going to be a little bit of a jumping off point here for the first portion of today’s program. Now with that being said, let’s move now here to this focus in the President’s Executive Order, the commission led by Robert F. Kennedy. Now as we all know, the Secretary of Health and Human Services was tasked with doing three things. Now, it was a little bit longer than this. I’m just boiling bound. The key part, this was the purpose one was to study the scope of childhood chronic disease and any potential contributing cause. Second was to advise and assist the president on informing the American people regarding the facts and the findings of this assessment. And then number three, to provide to the president a government-wide recommendation on policy and strategy relating to addressing the identified contributing causes. That makes sense. So it’s the assessment. This first part that has now come out today, Dr. Vliet, I’m going to consider just the highlights of this commission. We cannot go into the full depth. That’s lot. There’s so much there. That’s not the purpose for today’s program per se, but we’re going to make some application in the last half of the program that it does involve personal responsibility and that’s where the free will piece comes in. And with that, welcome back to the program, Dr. Lee. Dr. Lee, thanks for being back with me today.

Lee Vliet:

You’re so welcome Pastor Sam. It’s a real privilege to be back with you in the biblical basis of all that we are talking about…to be able to share that.

Sam Rohrer:

Yeah, there is and that’s the whole point. There is a biblical basis and we’re going to tie it in ladies and gentlemen. It’s going to end up talking about truth and that’s what we’re going to try and relate. And Dr. Lee even it’s at the heart of your Health Foundation, Truth for Health Foundation. So that’s where it’s going to revolve around. But let’s get into this from an overall perspective, Dr. Lee, from what you’ve seen about the commission assessment report, what are your overall thoughts? Now, let’s dig in a little bit. Do you agree with the basic directive that there is a major problem, for instance with chronic childhood diseases and disorders for which changes in law should be made?

Lee Vliet:

Oh, absolutely. Actually it’s not just childhood, it’s adults as well. America is a society of people with devastating chronic disease burden. I mean the things that are in that commission to be addressed or things I have been writing about in my consumer health books for 30 years, this is the first time in my career we have had a president take the lead and establish a Secretary of Human Health and Human Services willing to honestly look at all of those issues. No, they’re critically important.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, well that being the case, so you are in agreement with that. Now, this as an example, have you read the assessment talking overall sense here? Do you like the way the assessment is put together and if you have read it, do you kind of put your stamp on the believability of this assessment?

Lee Vliet:

No question. Literally in my book 25 years ago, It’s My Ovaries Stupid. I wrote about the endocrine disruptors in the environment in our foods. I wrote about food diets in my first book in 1994. We’ve written over and over in other books, women weight and hormones on the high fructose corn syrup issue. Our food supply is devastatingly bad with the processed foods and the fructose corn syrup, the food dyes, the food additives, and the endocrine disruptors. That has been the focus of my work in medicine for decades. This I am so grateful to see the governmental leadership and someone, I mean RFK Junior is an experienced trial lawyer. He’s not making all these changes at one time. He’s very shrewd and strategic. He knows he’s got to go slowly. He knows he’s got to start with the low hanging fruit. I applaud what he’s been doing. I support it. It’s been desperately needed my whole career in medicine.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, let me ask you this quick question before we get out of this segment. Have the departments of Government, health and Human Services, FDA, those things that are set there that have made the regulations in place that are now being questioned and so forth by the assessment, have those departments ever issued regulations on food that has been good or have they not been good from the beginning?

Lee Vliet:

I don’t think they’ve been good from the beginning. I think that food pyramid was a disaster. I think there’s so many corruptions in our federal agencies, F-D-A, N-I-H, C-D-C under the HHS Umbrella, CMS, Medicaid, all of those. I mean the food stamp program, letting people buy soft drinks and processed foods with food stamps, that’s absurd when we know the health consequences of that. So all of these things that I’ve been literally fighting and writing and speaking about for 35, 40 years are being addressed finely and it is long past time, it’s urgently needed.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, that’s a good thing. So Dr. Lee, I didn’t know for sure what you were going to say. Glad to hear you say what you have said Now, free will at the heart of good health. Our focus today ladies and Gem is health. When we come back, we’re going to begin to look at some of the major Make America healthy again finding. Well if you’re just joining us today, thanks for being on board with us. My special guest is Dr. Lee Vliet, president and CEO of Truth for Health Foundation and she has a website@truthforhealth.org. A lot of different pieces of information there on that site I’d encourage you to visit. Title I’ve chosen for today is this Free will at the Heart of Good Health. A little bit of play on words there because we all know our heart’s a major part of our health obviously, but free will.

You’ll see how that ties into it. But we started with the fact that the president back in February had established an executive order establishing a health commission led by Robert F. Kennedy now Secretary of Health and Human Services and that entity that commission have now come back with their report, which they were supposed to do by the executive order within a hundred days. They have done that and they have now issued this 72 page assessment. And Dr. Lee and I are just going to talk now a little bit about some of the findings. By absolute no means going into the level of detail, there’s a lot of information in there if you just joining us. Dr. Lee just commented and said that she’s in as much as one can be at this juncture, she would know full agreement with what’s in that report and in fact is glad that they have actually done it.

And she’s been writing about this in her nearly 50 years of medicine involvement. So anyway, that’s our starting point if you’re just joining us. Now, according to the Make America Healthy again Mohawk, the commission assessment, it says partially this at the beginning quote, this report is a call to action. It presents the stark reality of American children’s declining health. This assessment provides a foundation and a common scientific basis that identifies four potential drivers behind the rise in childhood chronic disease. And these include still what the report says. Poor diet, that’s the first one. Second one, an aggregation of environmental chemicals. Third, a lack of physical activity and chronic stress. And then fourth over medicalization. Alright, now Dr. Lee, we don’t have time to go into obviously into any depth on the details of this commission assessment, but in a general sense of the four drivers that are listed there, poor diet, aggregation of environmental chemicals, lack of physical activity and chronic stress and over medicalization, do they make sense to you and which are the most important if you were to rank them, and maybe it’s not possible, maybe they’re all together, but here’s the key word, if they’re not complete, is there any major category in your estimation that was left out?

Dr. Lee, where did you go? Dr. Lee number

Lee Vliet:

One. Those four are critical. And number two, those are exactly the things. I’ve spent a career in medicine for 45 years addressing and trying to help people make positive changes. The big area that I think was not addressed in those particular four, which are all critically important and they all work together because if you don’t do the first three, then that leads to overmedicalization over vaccination, over medication, over surgery, focus on fixing things with pills, shots of vaccine, shots of medicine, painkillers, whatever The problem is you’re trying to fix something with a bandaid instead of getting to the root of the problem, fly in most of the first three things. But there’s a fifth category that isn’t addressed there, which is focusing on God’s gift of free will for people to choose their course of action and outlook when faced with adversity, which can include an illness or an injury.

And we don’t emphasize enough the mental health aspects of health and resiliency. You can’t be healthy and resilient if you have a mental outlook of feeling dependent on the government, dependent on doctors, dependent on hospitals, dependent on vaccines to fix you instead of using the biblical teachings and Jesus ministry and basic preventive medicine of exercise, being out in the sunlight, eating the right foods, looking at your sources of light and vitamin D that God gives us instead of all of the quick fixes that people turn to that are spending your time inside on a video screen, get out in the sunshine, move your body. Those are choices people

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Lee Vliet:

And that’s our free will coming into play. And during COVID, a lot of people who exercised their free will and didn’t give into the government brow beating, browbeating, ear mongering, disempowering messages and wrong messages on what to do. Those people were the healthiest. They got through COVID faster, they took supplements, they got outside, they did exercise, they the opposite of what the government told them to do.

Sam Rohrer:

All right, and I think that’s a great point because in some respects you didn’t actually use this but you talked about root problems. But the other word that people would say is we’ve gotten into a system where we are more focused on managing the symptoms rather than fixing the problems. And from my opinion as I’ve seen it being involved in government is that that’s part of the reason for bad regulations because so many of the regulations are geared to make money for treating symptoms not fixing the problem, which is why I am glad you went to the idea that, yeah, not included in there and I would agree with you before is the fact of how the process by which people come to agree with these or not make proper decisions for themselves. Now that being the case, we’ll build that out a little bit more in the next segment a little bit when we talk about free will and that responsibility piece more.

But here’s a question for you, Robert F. Kennedy, secretary Kennedy and HHS Health and Human Services are already, as our listeners would know, issuing some changes anyways in regulations from, I think one of the first things they went after was petroleum-based food dyes in different foods and then more recently the elimination of artificial or processed sweeteners, A whole range of them, but including one very commonly used that’s almost in everything you buy is high fructose corn syrup and then other processed seed oils that are a part of nearly again everything we buy. Do you agree with these changes so far? Why and why not? And you used the word earlier pursuing low hanging fruit. Do you think some of these things are some of the low hanging fruit?

Lee Vliet:

Oh, definitely, definitely. And he had to start with some of the simpler things to address and I get frustrated with people turning against RFK Jr for the fact that he hasn’t made all the changes everybody wants right off the bat. You cannot undo 50 years, 75 years of entrenched food choices, food regulations, FDA regulations, mindset of people. I have watched the conditioning of the American public’s mind over my time in medicine, which spans the seventies when I began medical school. And I look at the way that we have been, the public has been conditioned. Insurance has to pay for your healthcare. You are responsible for your healthcare. The insurance pays for medical services and surgical services and physical therapy and medication and procedures. You and your free will are responsible for your health. So the conditioning and shaping of the public to be dependent on the insurance cartel, the insurance guidelines, government guidelines, government paying for it, government directing us, and not making the choices that we are capable of making to stay healthy. That has been a shaping campaign over the last 50 years that has truly disempowered people. They are helpless, it’s learned helplessness. Second, Mr. Kennedy has to move slowly to turn that around.

Sam Rohrer:

And I think that’s a good point that you make and I think learns dependency. That’s a great one. That’s a great phrase because really truly it is. And you treat many patients on a wide range of illnesses and you have for, as you said, for an extended period time many decades. If I were to say right now of the patients that come to you, the ones who keep coming back, they probably have learned good health by the fact they’ve been going to you. But in a general sense, learn dependency, what percentage of people do you think are out there that actually could make and would feel comfortable of making sound health decisions for themselves? There are very many of those people out there.

Lee Vliet:

Oh, I think there are a lot of people out there who are capable of it. I don’t think they think they’re capable of it and it’s an educational process. It’s something I do throughout my career in working with patients. I teach them as part of my appointment with them, here’s a choice you can make. Here’s what you can do. People will say to me a simple example, well my insurance doesn’t pay for that medicine so I can’t have it. And I said, yes, you can just research to do some cost shopping like you do when you buy a car or a TV and you

Sam Rohrer:

Find, alright, we’re about out of time, but I’m going to come back and ask you at some point that question, how does somebody take and actually do that? Which makes sense, but most people don’t know how we’ll deal with that later. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us because we’re going to talk further about this aspect of personal responsibility and that there is no substitute for it. Well, in a nation that is truly free. Now here in America, we have had freedom as few countries have, but things can change and they do change. But in a nation that is truly free, people are not told by government or agents of government what they are to do or what they are to think. Nor in a truly free nation are they penalized or threatened or coerced by various means to make various decisions. And whether that is someone who is in Congress or in some state legislature as I was for a long time, where they are threatened by the powers that be or bribed by tax dollars to go a certain way or to fall down in almost every case, the system wants you to fall into line and bow down.

That’s in the political system, but that can happen to a nation as whole, every tyrant nation, that’s exactly what it is. China, that’s the way it is. Well in our country is that the way it’s getting? But these are the questions that one has to ask and we’ve been through that before. Remember the time when government officials told us to stay home, don’t go to work. You cannot go to school, cover your face, cover the face of your little child playing on the playground, take that poison shot, untested, poison or lose your job or you’d better sit down and shut up. We’ll threaten you with jail and silence you somehow. Well, all of that we’ve witnessed since 2020 and that COVID shutdown, which I call many times a dress rehearsal right now, those are questions that every person must ask, are we free, are we not?

And that comes up and comes back to this point of personal responsibility in this matter of free will we’re talking about Now before I ask you Dr. Lee, whether or not we in this country today and your opinion, whether it’s applied to the matter of health or beyond, whether we’re still under really the COVID experience or we’ve left that behind, I want to go back and visit what you had just said there because that’s an issue that people have where you say, all right, here’s a medicine that I need but I don’t know how to get it. And you said, oh, but you can get it. I want you to explain a little bit about that process where personal responsibility can actually obtain something that is needed without doing it the way that government says you have to do it.

Lee Vliet:

Well you’re right and it is easy. For example, I teach patients go online and put in your medicine and cost shop the prices. It turns out, for example, patient of mine said, well, I can’t take estrogen because my insurance won’t cover it. Medicare has decided not to cover it for some ridiculous reason, but it’s $10 a month for the generic tablets at Walmart. That’s the cost of two lattes. But the copay on the insurance before she went on Medicare was $30 a month. So if people would actually go online, you can go to GoodRx or singlecare.com or Mark Cuban’s pharmacy and put in your prescription and find out what’s the cash price. Because most of the time I can show my patients that their cash price for generic at Walmart, Costco, Sam’s Club, even sometimes Walgreens, it’s lower than what their copay is charging them. It’s a racket with these insurance companies. They’re charging the patient a larger copay than the price of the cash pay generic medicine. And it’s the same generic medicine that companies are allowing.

Sam Rohrer:

That’s a great example and you could give more example after example, but what’s required there, Dr. Lee, is for a patient to say, well I am the patient, yes, and I’m not the doctor. Yes, but I’ve been to the physician and this is what they’ve said I’ve needed. Okay, I’m going to choose to agree with what the physician has said that makes sense even to do some of their own personal investigation. But alright, now I agree this medicine here seems to make sense in the fact that you can actually personal responsibility go out and do the process that you just talked about and actually get the same thing but for less money, which is good stewardship. The fact that that can be done does require individual choice, free will and responsibility. So you’ve laid it out. The point ladies and gentlemen is it’s not impossible to do.

It is a choice that can be done. Now let’s go back here. The COVID times, you’ve talked about it, you just had a seminar Monday night where you’re talking about freedom and this part came into it, but we know as I laid out earlier, what happened during COVID, it really was the loss of freedom for a period of time. Yet there are some things remain. Here’s my question for you. Has the freedom that was attacked clearly during the COVID time, has it been restored or in reality, is our freedom and particularly health freedom still under assault? In other words, are we back to where we were pre COVID or are we somewhere in the midst of health tyranny perhaps put it that way?

Lee Vliet:

Well, we are still under a lot of the COVID tyranny guidelines and many people still feel paralyzed by that, mentally paralyzed to make a free will choice. And that’s what concerns me so much. But the thing that people don’t realize as we go into Independence Day weekend, the absolute totalitarian tyranny that the United States of America was forced to live under, predominantly under the Biden administration mandates for experimental devices and treatments, the masking, the test kits, the COVID shots, all those were experimental. None of them were FDA approved and yet they were mandated and people were punished if they didn’t and threatened with loss of jobs. That tyranny was far worse than what the colonist experienced under King George. That led to the First American Revolution. And yet what we saw in the modern era is people’s whose free will was so sheep to conform to government directives and dictates and narratives that they weren’t exercising their free will to say, no, I’m not going to do that.

Some of the military service members we worked with had the courage and the faith and knew their constitutional rights and stood against the unlawful COVID mandate, which has now been recognized as totally unlawful under the Biden administration. However many of them did. As Jesus commanded us, had to pick up their cross in order to stand on truth and the law and what they knew to be right and exercise their free will because they were terminated from the military, lost their career, lost their livelihood, and many have still not been reinstated, although that’s the goal of the new administration. So sometimes there’s a price for exercising your free will and Jesus commanded us to take up your cross and follow me. I had a choice with four spine surgeries I could give in and let the surgeon do his job and then do nothing afterwards and be disabled the rest of my life.

Or I could get off my duff and go and get my butt in motion, do the exercise, do the body work, do all of the rehab that needed to be done to be healthy and functional. And it’s a choice. It really is. And there is something everyone can do. You can pick one choice, one action each day for the next month and say, okay, today I’m going to do this. I’m going to spend 30 minutes in the sun in the morning and reset my body clock and energize my body with natural sunlight or I’m going to walk 10 minutes after dinner, after lunch, after breakfast and get my glucose and insulin regulated properly. I’m going to cut out sweets for one meal a day. There are simple little things that people can do to start taking charge of your health and your mental resiliency and exercise your free will. And that’s what independence is all about. That is God’s gift of freedom and we need to come back to use the last human freedom, which is the power to choose your mental outlook and actions in the face of any adversity.

Sam Rohrer:

And Dr. Lee, I think that is excellent because ladies and gentlemen, isn’t that the case Now if we all think back to the whole COVID experience and I’m going to submit, there will be another one come, it may come this weekend, may come tomorrow, it may come next month, but another one will come because it’s the nature of tyranny and it’s the product of that which is moving towards global government, which is wanting to make every citizen in this world bow the knee. So it is going to come. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when, but are we going to be governed by fear? Because under the whole last five years, the 2020 circumstance, and yes, it was exacerbated under the Biden administration, but let’s face it, it comes at the cost of people in government because it was the president, our current president that declared the pandemic that suspended the rules that made it all possible.

So let’s be fair in what we’re doing and we’ve got to be careful that in the end are we going to be driven more by fear of man, fear of government regulation or fear of God? Are we going to pursue the truth first or are we going to accept some government edict as the truth? Alright, now that’s where it’s now we come back, we’re going to try and close with keeping independence. We’re going to call this. Well thanks for being with us today ladies and gentlemen. Hope you’ve enjoyed this conversation between Dr. Lee Vili and myself as we’ve combined this matter of the consideration of health and freedom and the theme that we’ve had is free will at the heart of good health. The point being that personal responsibility is essential. And as Dr. Lee said so very clearly in the last segment or the one before about how government policy and those who would wish to run our lives and not allow people to exercise freedom as God has intended, do all they can to teach.

I’m going to say learned dependence. And when government, as they did during COVID, what did they try to do? Create a sense of fear. Why are do most of the headlines in all that we hear fear of this, this is going to happen and this is going to happen and this is going to happen. What’s that do? It creates fear. And what happens when people fear? Well, they’ll give up their freedom for a sense of security and those circumstances never provide true security. It’s all a lie because it’s counter to God’s way. So it’s appropriate that we think about these things both as they relay to health, but all decisions in your life. And certainly as we approach Independence Day and whether it’s the observance of tomorrow 249th anniversary or anytime during the year. Now here’s some thoughts as we talk about keeping independence for which we at American be very glad that we were born here.

We’ve been given so much. But when I was in the Pennsylvania House in the General assembly there on the ceiling of the Pennsylvania House Chamber where I sat for, I served there for 18 years, there was a verse written on a brass plaque at the very top of that wonderful, that big room, one of the most beautiful rooms anywhere in the country. But there was a verse there from the book of John. That’s right, the New Testament, John the Apostle John chapter eight, verse 32, and this is the verse and you’ll know it and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free that was there on the ceiling so that anyone who was serving in the Pennsylvania house had no excuse. They would look up, which they all would and they’d be reminded, there is truth and truth will set you free.

Now did they do it? No. Most had no clue and they didn’t care. Sad, but that’s the way it is. I did care though. But the truth is that truth is the basis for not only keeping freedom for the only way to gain freedom, it’s through the liberty, the bonding from sin, which only faith in Christ alone can give. So Christ alone gives liberty, and from that comes civil freedom. Our founders knew this truth and it’s why they in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence recorded these words, quote, we hold these truths to be self-evident, these truths, truth to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. That among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men. That’s the purpose of government, keep those rights.

But when God’s truth, from where we get that concept is ridiculed and substituted with pragmatism, which is by definition the absence of truth and then fueled by pride which God says he hates because it supplants God with man’s intellect. And the choices and behavior of be they members of Congress or citizens on the ground are told that blind obeisance is the mark of freedom. If you’re really a patriot, you’re going to fall down and do what you’re told to do instead of seeking truth and making independent decisions based on truth. If that’s case, we are in days of despotism and fleeting freedom. So that is the choice. But we have to know Dr. Lee, our focus today has been on obviously health and health freedom, but we’re going to observe our civil freedom tomorrow now this 249th anniversary of the independence of our nation. So out of curiosity, how did you conclude your Monday meeting on freedom and how we could defend it? What do you say?

Lee Vliet:

Well, our freedom is not just our civil liberties under the Constitution. It is our mental and psychological liberties God gave us with free will. And so I think right now I urge everyone to focus on Independence Day weekend, not just celebrating the past. And I have two ancestors that signed, they risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to sign the Declaration of Independence. Richard Henry Lee and Francis Lightfoot Lee of Virginia were my ancestors and I had others who fought the Revolutionary War. So our duty now and our gift to God is to defend his gift of freedom that our ancestors risk their lives for to bequeaths to us. And also I truly believe whatever the government, whatever the media, whatever the pandemic planners are trying to throw at us to scare us. When you give into fear, you are giving up your free will to choose faith over fear. And I believe during COVID, the Holy Spirit himself guided my choices, actions, insights, and truths that made me speak out and exercise my free will as a physician and a child of God during COVID to help others do the same. So I encourage all of you, focus on your last human freedom this weekend, which is the power to choose your mental outlook and your actions in the course of any adversity or any tyranny,

And that is our gift to God.

Sam Rohrer:

You know what? That is absolutely correct because Dr. Lee, ladies and gentlemen, you’re listening to us. You know what? When we all stand before God, which we will, CLE 1213 says that we will fear God and keep his commandment, which this is the whole duty of man for He will bring all things into judgment, everything secret in public, all right? Now that’s the point. We will stand before him. Do you think for a moment, ladies and gentlemen, and I ask myself this and I do regularly when we stand before God, do you think that God, when we tell him, well Lord, I did not accept you as my savior because somebody told me that it wasn’t the truth or it wasn’t a good idea. Or during my life I put poisons regularly into my body and I shortened my life, but because somebody else told me it was okay, does that make any difference?

At that point I said, no, no, that doesn’t make any difference. We’re responsible for our own actions. We really are. That’s personal responsibility. Free will. He gave us the ability to think and to choose blaming it on somebody else doesn’t cut it. It does not cut it. Somebody tells me, my child, tell them. I told them, don’t go out and play in the street. They go out and play in the street. Harm is going to come. You get the point. God has given us what we need. We need to choose wisely because choices do have consequences. Dr. Lee, thank you so much for me. Many of the things you’ve talked about here today, they can be found on your website@truthforhealth.org. Is that correct?

Lee Vliet:

Yes. Including treatments for all of these weird viruses that they’re trying to scare us with. We’ve got treatment guides, we’ve got resources, we’ve got nutraceuticals, the highest quality, and I submit. These are things I have vetted, I have researched, and this is designed to help give you tools to exercise your free will and use them.

Sam Rohrer:

There you go, ladies and gentlemen. And I say that’s the truth. Now on the program that you’ve heard the truth, you know the truth. Ultimately we know it’s the truth of God’s word in Jesus, who is the way, the truth and the life. But if we know the truth, the truth will set us free. Take everything. Start with God’s word and with God’s word, you will never go wrong, you will never go wrong. It will set you free. Let us do that as we contemplate this program tomorrow and the days ahead.