Beyond Vaccines – Part II: Courts & Confusing Comments
August 11, 2025
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Dr. Sherri Tenpenny
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 8/11/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s also a health focused program with returning guests, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. She’s an osteopathic medical doctor with a proficiency certification in integrative medicine. She’s also an author, a public speaker, very busy these days speaking all across the country. She’s a medical researcher as well, and founder as well of 10 Penny Integrative Medical Center, a clinic located near Cleveland, Ohio, where that clinic provides natural holistic approaches to getting well. And that is certainly something that all of us want to be able to do as much as possible, and that is to stay well. Now before we get into the focus of today’s program, I must mention that over the weekend significant events occurred, which I could address, but I’m not going to do so because of our focus today. We may touch on a couple of these things later in this week, but I just put them out there because the things that stood out to me.
For instance, domestically, we’ve talked about it before. Major 1000 year floods occurred primarily during July, but they are continuing into August. Over the weekend, upper Midwest was afflicted affected by a thousand year flood. Record setting fires are happening at the same time. They continue in California in the Grand Canyon area. A new one just started over the weekend outside LA, let alone the uncontrolled fires that still burn in multiple locations around the world in Canada, two locations which have really been affecting much of the northeast portion of the United States with haze and fog and some around even our own studios here. Last week we could actually smell and see the smoke earthquakes of significance as well occurred over the weekend here in the United States and in Alaska. And in addition to a 6.1 devastating earthquake in Turkey as well as many others happening around the world.
We’ve been talking about how these things are developing and continuing. Another serious point was in the financial area over the weekend in the United States here, our official national debt crossed to the $37 trillion mark with daily spending continuing at 22 billion per day. Ladies and gentlemen, you know, cannot continue things. That means change is quickly coming and we can see that financially, but that happened over the weekend. In addition, major protests have been occurring in California and other cities against the ice arrests of illegals. And then over the weekend and continuing today, Donald Trump is ordering out of DC all homeless people ordering in the FBI. And I think I just saw rightly before his federalized the police in Washington DC point being there is a lot happening, let alone the peace meeting in Alaska on Friday, at least at this point scheduled between our president, president Putin of Russia and maybe Ukraine’s Zelensky.
So anyways, point being, it’s going to be a full week. It was a full weekend, a lot of things unfolding and most of these things that I’ve noted we have no control over. So all of us who fear God must each day just live by faith. We fear him and we seek to keep his commandments and he will provide for us what we need. But it’s good to know these things. Now, for today however, I’ve chosen the title of Beyond Vaccines Part Two Courts and Confusing Comments where I hope to get Dr. Sherry Tenpenny studied perspective on a number of health related items of significance. And with that, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, thanks for being back with me today.
Sherry Tenpenny:
Thanks so much, Sam, for having me on. I appreciate it.
Sam Rohrer:
Yeah, you are certainly welcome. And Dr. Sherry, last time you were with me, I was on May 14th. We discussed what we called the corrupted climate of big pharma, big government, and we came out of that with a number of different perspective. But one thing I’d just like to start with, it was something that we concluded in that program and it was this, let me put it in my own words, correct it, modify it in any way, but it’s in regard to vaccines generally. In that program you stated in essence that vaccines as a premise to ensure good health or prevent disease was a flawed premise at the beginning at its heart. And in short, no vaccines have been proven to prevent disease or ensure good health. Now is what I just said there an accurate reflection and if not modify that, but clarify that.
Sherry Tenpenny:
No, I think that’s pretty accurate.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay. Right now, that being the case today, we’re going to go more specifically perhaps not on the broad aspect of vaccines, but the COVID-19, which continues to come around because there’s been a lot of things coming out of the federal government relative to statements and policies and things, which we’re going to talk more about it. But here’s being the case, RFK being the Health and Human Services secretary has made a number of statements, we’ll talk about it. One, including research that is curtailed and all that. However, I saw that there remains, I believe, and I want you to clarify it, that there are still three COVID vaccine shots, mRNA shots that are on the immunization schedule for infants. Is that true? And if so, why hasn’t that changed under the current climate with RFK and the Trump administration?
Sherry Tenpenny:
I think that that’s just a clerical issue that they haven’t taken it off of the schedule with the CDC, I mean, it’s been removed from basically all sick kids and pregnant women. And Secretary Kennedy has made it clear that, hey, if you still believe in this stuff and you want it injected into your body, that’s a First Amendment choice and you can still do it. I believe that any physician who administers a COVID shot, whether it be to a child, a pregnant person, or an adult, I think that they are being extremely negligent and committing malpractice because they’re injecting a solution of known harm to protect against an infection that really doesn’t barely even exist. We’ve had coronavirus infections for 60 years. In fact, somewhere between 25 and 30% of all seasonal symptoms that we call influenza have always been from Coronaviruses that were out in circulation and they were never really severe.
And as they crunch the data from COVID, there’s multiple publications now that confirm what we were saying at the very beginning. That death from COVID was a much less likely possibility than injury or harm from a COVID jab that didn’t even stop transmission, didn’t keep you from getting sick. In fact, many of the publications now say that the COVID jab so disrupted your immune system. You’re more likely to get sick from COVID or from influenza or other bacterial viruses that are out there than people who had not been injected with the jab and the death rates are up. All of the things that we now see in the retrospective analysis, there are thousands of papers now that have been published.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and hold that Dr. Sherri because we’ll come back and ladies and gentlemen, we’ll build out further on that. My theme today is this, beyond the Vaccines Part two kind of connects with a program that we did back on May the 14th, and we’ll talk a little bit more about courts and confusing comments, all kind of revolving around COVID vaccine, where it is, where it’s not. Well, if you’re just joining us today, thank you so much. We’re going into our second segment today. This is a health focused program. I do this at least once a month, sometimes a couple times. My special guest today is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. She’s been with me a number of times, most recently back on April the 16th. If you’d want to go to our website or on our app, look it up and you can find it. We dealt with vaccines, some good, some bad, what you need to know.
That was a good overhaul and comprehensive overview on an area of specialty focus, which Dr. Sherry Tenpenny is a national leader. So I want that way on that one. So if you want to get an overall foundational view of what is a vaccine, what it is not, what the history has been and all of that, you’ll go to that. That was on April 16th. Then on May the 14th, a month after that, we dealt with one that entitled Beyond Vaccines and talked about how it can be that a lie which has been perpetuated so long by big pharma, big government, and all of that has come together that takes and explains how all of those component pieces really contribute and have contributed to people placing a false hope in something only to find out that comes almost a nightmare. So today, this is really kind of a part two or building off of it a little bit more, but picking up some items that have occurred recently in the headlines relative to vaccines and more specifically the COVID-19 as it comes forth.
So with that, if you’re just joining us, that’s where we’re headed. Stay with us. We’ll go further detail as we move ahead. Now, one of the most important things required I think by those in authority regarding laws or regulations or policies or expectations, generally they need these three things. Truth, they need clarity and they need consistency. So if any of those things are not there, there’s trouble people, citizens, all of us, or it could be employees working for an employer or children within the setting of a home or church. As far as that goes, they need things. We are made to need things that are in order, in order to live our lives in order and to be fulfilled in our lives. That’s just the way we’re made. Predictability, confidence and trust are essential elements. And when these things are either compromised or trashed altogether, people begin to live lawless justice becomes impossible and rather than clarity, there becomes confusion, which I think marks most of what we’re talking about today, not on this program, but generally in our culture.
Now these things are essential not only for daily living, but I’m going to suggest particularly in area of health and health policy, well since faulty policies and guidance, if it’s not right, will produce bad decisions by people which then end up in sickness and disability and pain and perhaps death. Yet the health climate produced during, I’m going to say resulting from the COVID disaster five years ago, thrust Americans and frankly the entire world into dismay and disarray and distrust with confusion being the result and confidence being trashed. That I think is where we are now. Dr. Sherry, in our recent press conference, this is a headline piece we’ll bounce off of. A reporter asked President Trump to resolve some confusion between Secretary Robert f Kennedy’s announcement that he was cutting off about $500 million in mRNA vaccine research and how that squared with the president’s past support for mRNA vaccine production during the COVID years. Now the president’s response I think is critical and in my opinion, confusing in light of the question. So ladies and gentlemen, I’m going to play here now just about a minute long an interaction. You’ll hear the reporter ask the president a question and then the president will double down then on his COVID warp speed decision as remember now listen to this and then I’m going to ask Dr. Sherry to comment on it.
Speaker 3:
You were the driving force behind Operation Warp speed, these mRNA vaccines that are the gold standard. Now your health secretary is pulling back all the funding for research. He’s saying that the risks outweigh the benefits, which puts him at odds
President Donald Trump:
With
Speaker 3:
Entire medical community and with you what is going on. Yeah,
President Donald Trump:
Research on what
Speaker 3:
Into mRNA vaccines.
President Donald Trump:
Well, we’re going to look at that. We’re talking about it and they’re doing a very good job and that is a past operation. Warp speed was whether you’re Republican or Democrat, considered one of the most incredible things ever done in this country. The efficiency, the way it was done, the distribution, everything about it has been amazing. But that was now a long time ago and we’re onto other things, but we are speaking about it. We have meetings about it tomorrow, actually tomorrow 12 o’clock, and we’ll determine we’re looking for other answers to other problems, to other sicknesses of diseases, and I think we’re doing really well.
Sam Rohrer:
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, did you catch that? Now I’m going to just say Dr. Sherry, in my opinion, I’m going to agree that it was an incredible time, incredible decisions, but I would differ saying not done in America, but I’m going to say done to America. Now, that’s just my initial response. I don’t want to color what you’re saying, but when you heard that, what kind of a message did the president’s response send to concerned citizens and health providers across America? And does it provide clarity or contribute to more confusion about this whole area of vaccines?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, it provides more confusion regarding the COVID vaccine. I mean, when we talk about issues with COVID-19 and the COVID-19 jab, which it was not a vaccine, it was a jab of a bio weapon. That’s a separate issue in a separate discussion from the rest of the vaccines on the pediatric schedule. So what the reporter asked the question about had to do with the mRNA vaccine and all in the 22 contracts that Secretary Kennedy had canceled from Barda’s portfolio that totaled about $500 million. And because these were grants, people have to understand what Barda is. B-A-R-D-A BARDA is kind of like the middleman between agency. It’s pretty small. I think there’s only 80 people or so that work there, but they’re the middleman between private and public money. So when Moderna or Pfizer wants to get money from the government, BARDA is the one that facilitates that transfer of money from HHS, from NIH over through Barda into the hands of these companies.
They’re in the center of the public private partnerships and Secretary Kennedy’s, there was 22 awards for contracts there to look for more COVID jab to treat respiratory illnesses. And if you listen to Secretary Kennedy’s kind of his video press release on that, he said, we’ve proven that the jabs did not stop transmission, didn’t keep people from getting sick, and really were not effective for respiratory things. So there’s no reason to spend a whole lot of money looking for more of the same. We just need to stop it and put the money in a different direction. Now on the bigger scope, you have to think about what Trump did on his first day in office when he had other people come in and say, yes, we are going to be able to treat cancer with a jab. We’re going to draw your blood and determine what cancer you have, and then we’re going to create something to neutralize it.
Which according to Dr. Robert Malone, and a lot of other people said, that’s not a new technology. We’ve been trying to make that work for 30 years. It never worked in mice and rats and rabbits. How on earth does Larry Ellison think it’s going to work with humans? So Trump seems to be enamored with the idea of technology and he’s never taken a step back about the mRNA of vaccines and say, and he’s been given every out. In fact, that was when I posted that on my ex, that little clip that you just played on my ex account, I said, every opportunity that Trump has had to come clean and say I was sold a bill of goods. I’m just a business guy. I was sold a bill of goods by Fauci and Burkes and these other people and they’re the doctors, they’re supposed to be the experts, and they were wrong and people died and people have been massively injured and we have to make that right by them. He has refused to step into the gap of forgiveness about that and say, I made a mistake. I listened to these experts. They led me in the wrong direction and a disaster happened and now we must stop it. He’s never taken ownership of that, Sam ever.
Sam Rohrer:
And for me, that is a major problem and it doesn’t make any difference. Dr. Sherry, whether it’s a politician, a president, a politician, a legislator, a congressman, a medical person, even a pastor and a pulpit who stood up and encouraged people that this is what you must do to now have indisputable data and not come back and say, we apologize, we’re sorry we were fooled, or whatever it was, and to make it right. And ladies and gentlemen think about that. And that to me, frankly, that is a big bother to me. It makes trusting anyone, the medical institutions, educational institutions, politicians of any flavor, even those in the pulpit who enforced it or promoted it for not to come back and to acknowledge and ask forgiveness, which is the biblical solution to me. I have a real difficulty trusting anybody like that. The biblical solution is we come back, we’re going to move from this, we’re going to stay on this a bit.
We’ll come back and go into another area as well. Stay with us, Dr. Sherry. We’re going forward. I’m going to come back and visit just a little bit what we just went over in that last segment because as I said there, when different messages are given from those in authority and we’re focusing on health issues here today, it produces confusion. And when there’s confusion and not clarity based on truth, then people will be led or it can be led to make wrong decisions. Clearly that’s the case on this broader area of vaccines and that we started the program with that and then certainly COVID-19 vax, which was never a vaccine, that’s all part of that discussion that people know well. But all of that has consequences, and I want to cover that before we leave today’s program to see what you’re finding out there as you are being, you could spend 24 hours a day because people are wanting you to comment and that kind of thing.
And I want to find out a little bit more about that. But let’s go into one other area here of confusion or preface of clarification on, and that is this, just a week ago in USA today, there was an article there of reports that they said the Trump administration has ordered all federal agencies to scrub any records related to workers’ COVID-19 vaccination status and other compliance with pandemic mandates. And that they have, according to the memo that was sent out by Scott Cooper as the director of the Office of Personnel Management, went out to all federal department and agencies heads that they had to do this, but they would have to prove back to him by September 8th. I believe it was that they have in fact done it. But he included within that that it was a move on a part of the Trump administration’s broader efforts to reverse many harmful policies, a former President Joe Biden’s administration.
Now, there are two things I want to ask you on that. I don’t know exactly what all of that means. On one hand, I can see scrubbing references to being a very good thing. I want to know if there’s anything about it that is an issue from a medical perspective about that. And then the idea as well that the attempt there was again to blame everything on the Biden administration, but the shot would have never been possible to have been made available or to be pushed without warp speed. So that appears to be a point of confusion. Bring some clarity to that, please.
Sherry Tenpenny:
I don’t think there is any clarity to that, Sam, when I saw that post about scrubbing that I asked a bunch of my friends and I actually wrote a little bit about it, said, what the heck is this all about? Does this stop data mining so that we don’t know when people die suddenly? Were they vaccinated or not? I mean, does this have something to do with taking away the ability for someone to have a job or not have a job that’s far behind us? And it’s not really a HIPAA issue per se, except because it’s not a medical record, it’s an employment record. And so why they have decided to do this, it’s pretty unclear to me. I don’t understand why they’ve done it. It seems retroactively kind of irrelevant.
Sam Rohrer:
Alright, well that was my take too. And again, just from a medical perspective, because to me it almost looked like it was a political statement to say here we’re different than the Biden administration, but then based on what the clip we just played from the president was only because of the warp speed that it was made possible to begin with. So I’m thinking, alright, so again, that’s the point, ladies and gentlemen, I’m talking about statements that are confusing but do not bring clarity is always a problem. So anyway, alright, I’m going to go on to this. There was a ninth federal circuit court decision just recently coming out of the Los Angeles Unified School District where the teachers, and I think others were mandated to take the shot back in the days. There was a ruling that came out of it that I read. It doesn’t appear to limit the government’s ability to perhaps do the same thing again. I don’t know how. What’s your take on it?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, the ruling actually came out of the ninth circuit and the ninth circuit tends to be very liberal in its rulings. It’s the west coast, it’s Washington, Oregon, California, and I believe it’s a bit of Nevada and maybe even a portion of Arizona that applies to the ninth Circuit. And they didn’t say that the government can mandate a medical product based on whether or not it’s effective because they threw out the effectiveness argument that people said, the people that brought this to court said, well, it wasn’t effective. It didn’t stop transmission and all it did was cause harm. And that’s very true. But it said that in the court’s ruling that if the government believes that it’s reasonably helpful to protect the public, even if it doesn’t stop transmission and doesn’t keep you from getting sick, that if the government or an employer wants to mandate it, they can do that as long as they reasonably believe that the measure helps protect the public.
And so that is, in my opinion, when I read that and I had several lawyer friends of mine, I said, am I reading this correctly? And we discussed it and I said, it looks to me like a very slippery slope. And I think that the dissenting opinion even said that this is a very slippery slope leading to government overreach and they’re falling back on the Jacobson versus Massachusetts ruling, which was in 1903 or four or something like that, that says that the government has the right to enforce vaccination if they believe it’s going to keep the public safe. There’s been a lot of discussion in the 25 years I’ve been doing this on and off about whether or not the Supreme Court needs to reevaluate the interpretation of that law in light of back when that law was made, there was one vaccine, it was the smallpox vaccine and that was it. Is the interpretation still valid when we’ve got 17 vaccines on the schedule plus pandemic vaccines plus travel and military vaccines? Is the interpretation of that valid by today’s standards in 2025? And everybody’s been kind of afraid to touch it because the Supreme Court could rule in either direction, they could make it go away and say it no longer applies, or they could tighten it up and make it even more tyrannical than what it is right now.
Sam Rohrer:
And with that Sherry, I’d say from my legislative background perspective that anything that would be in a mandate written that way or in law is absolutely a disaster because it’s not clear. You can’t define if someone believes that it may be helpful, you can’t measure that. It’s not objective, which when I looked at that, my sense was, well, what’s happening in law right now would not prevent the government or in any part of it from doing exactly again what was done under COVID. Now that being the case, let me go back and ask you this question here. You’re being requested, you just don’t have enough time in your day to speak about all of this, whether it’s the COVID-19 or vaccines generally or health conditions generally. But what are you finding when you’re out there talking to people? What are they wanting? I mean, I can imagine them wanting you to come in and give them some kind of a rabbit’s foot solution to all health problems and that kind of thing. I mean, that’s just what people do of docs, but what are you finding? What are people actually wanting and what’s the demand that’s driving so many requests for you to go out and speak at conferences and all?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Excuse me. Well, everybody is, I think we’re five years soon to be six years into this now the death rate continues to rise even though COVID as an infection for the all intents and purposes no longer exists. So people still get COVID. It’s a one-off, and it’s probably seen more frequently in people who’ve gotten the jabs. So people have read about the turbo cancers or they’ve heard about them, they’ve read about the drop in fertility all over the world. There was a report that came out yesterday that Japan now says at least 600,000 people have died because of the jab. And these sort of reports are coming out more and more all the time. And a lot of people that got the jab are now regretting it. And they’re saying, I was coerced into it by my employer, by the government. I had to keep my job.
I wanted to travel. I wanted to see my grandkids. I wanted to see my mom in the nursing home. It was just the right thing to do. And they’re all saying, now, what can I do to detox? Detox has become the word of the day. Everybody’s saying, I got to detox this out of my system. The problem is that with the COVID jabs, there are known mechanisms of what we’re up against when you’re trying to eliminate this. There’s something called insertional mutagenesis where the plasma DNA has contaminated our DNA. There’s suppression of a regulator, proteins that stop camps, cancers, those are now out of the way and that’s what causes the turbo cancer. And it goes on and on. There’s seven different mechanisms that have been proven. And so many of us worked ourselves to the bone during COVID to try to warn people that this was going to be a disaster.
And in my opinion, as a Christian, people bowed their knee to a pharmaceutical product for whatever reason they wanted to come up with whether they thought it was a good idea or not. But the main reason they did it was out of fear. And instead of asking the Lord to take the blanket of fear off of them and not to violate their temple with an experimental product, they did anyways. And so in my opinion, the answer is a spiritual one. Ask the Lord to forgive you for your choices, but the consequences that you may still have to live with those.
Sam Rohrer:
And ladies and gentlemen, there’s a lesson in that as well. You all know that. And regardless of what decision you made, we are facing this kind of thing. There are consequences to choices. We come back, we’ll conclude with some additional comment. Well, as we bring this program to a close, just a quick reference one more time. Dr. Sherry Tenpenny has been my guest. Sherry, before I just give just a little bit of a summary here of a couple of things. Is there a website that people can go to find out more information about you, what you’ve written and all that kind of thing that you’d like to share?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Sure. We have several websites, but the main website is just drtenpenny.com. No period in there, just dr 10 penny.com. We also have prime membership dot drtenpenny.com for people that want to support our work by becoming a monthly member, that’s a really important place. And we are on every social media platform. You can find that under the tab on dr 10 penny.com. And there are so many fake accounts out there set up for me. So if you really want to make sure you’re getting the right one, find it from our website. But the place where we’re the busiest and post the most is on X, and my handle on X is @busydrt.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay. Excellent. Ladies and gentlemen, of course, you probably weren’t able to write all of that down, but again, you can go back and get this program, listen to it again, and on our website or on our app at Stand in the Gap, you can access a transcript, which that probably will be on there as well. Now, that being the case, Dr. Sherry, I want to ask you one additional thing, and that is not long ago, there was a statement that RFK Secretary Robert F. Kennedy made a pronouncement during a congressional hearing that he envisions in four years that all Americans will be wearing a 24 7 wearable. He called it a health monitoring device and gave the reason for it, but did say that it was going to be one of the largest or if not the largest effort ever promoted by HHS. And I have commented on a couple of different occasions on this one with recurring guest Leo Homan from a perspective of one aspect, and then Dr. James Spencer last week we talked more of a theological and technological aspect. But I’d like to ask you from your perspective about the medical viability aspect of this wearable in your comment. Because if it is going to be one of the biggest areas ever promoted by HSS an RFK says it is a good thing, one might think that it is a very good thing to do. Okay, what are your thoughts on that?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, the whole idea about wearables is a real mixed bag. I mean, for some people, monitoring of their blood sugar and keeping their blood sugar stable is a way to keep their insulin requirements low and to keep their blood sugar balance in check. There are wearables that can warn if your medication is getting too low and you have a seizure disorder that can keep you from having seizures. And we’ve been around things like Fitbits and things like that for a really long time. The problem is, is the long-term consequences of implantable wearables, what else are they collecting? What other data are they collecting on you? And where is that data going? Because data is the new gold, and particularly medical data and the little, almost like a thumbtack that goes through your skin, and when does it stop and when do you need something more like an implantable subcutaneous chip? And where does it stop to be the mark of the beast that you’ve got to have a wearable that you’re wearing to monitor every part of you, or you just can’t participate with banking or food or anything else that you do. Again, it’s a very slippery slope with a lot of things that I think start out as being good and we can do good things with it, and then it just slips down slope to being a very nefarious thing.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay. And believe it or not, Dr. Sherry, you probably hear the other programs that I did, but that was basically the resolve that we reached here with other guests. And one was, Hey, look, I don’t need to know what my heart rate is all the time. And therefore, and actually if I did all the time, that would probably enhance a level of fear. I’d always be checking that, wondering what condition I’m in, and therefore, no, I’m not going to do that. But for the diabetic or the person that you talked about, it could be the very, very best thing that perhaps they could do. But also, as I’ve said that Leo said, and we’ve chatted about, and just what you said as well, is that the data that would be collected is going into the greater database system run by ai, which is all a part of the broader surveillance aspect we’re having.
That’s not good. So here, let’s conclude that. Let’s conclude it in this perspective, the fact that we have health policy from authorities be then business or politics or whatever that say, here is what ought to be done. And then over here, there’s something that raises the question, no, not so good, brings everybody to the point that need to be very careful how they respond to what they hear on the matter of health. How would you and how are you recommending God fearing citizens, citizens of all type, whether they God fearing or not, but how should they consider all these different conflicting things that are coming out relative to health policy and what should drive how they make their own health decisions?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, that’s the bottom line, Sam. How you make your own health decision should not be dependent on some government agency. HHS is this massive sprawling agency inside of the government. It has close to a $2 trillion a year budget, and it covers so many different areas of our life. Why do we have to sit back and wait for their decisions to tell us what to eat, what to drink, how to filter our water, how to pick a rancher, and all of this focus on making our food healthier. What they’re doing is they’re making our junk food healthier. They’re making Cheerios and Doritos and Skittles healthier, and that’s stuff we shouldn’t even be eating in the first place. It’s stuff that shouldn’t even be called food that at the same time, we’re allowing the EPA to run rough shot over top of us. They’re trying to get complete liability protection inside of the EPA, like the pharmaceutical industry has for childhood vaccine schedule through an appropriation spill.
And it’s section 4 53. I’ve written about it twice now on my Substack, which is dr 10 penny.substack.com. People really need to know about this and get it up in arms about making sure that Congress does not give the big, big chemical, big Ag, the complete protection to the pesticide industry, because that will allow 57,000 pesticides to go unregulated in our country. And it’s already in our water supply. It’s already in our food. If they can spray it all across the country, it will be the decimation of everything because the water runoff, it will go into the fish and the frogs in the water, and then it will contaminate the birds that eat those and it’ll contaminate the animals that eat the birds, and it stays in the land forever. So we’ve got to get people mobilized to stop this liability protection bill. And they’re actually also trying to get it done at a federal level, but they’re also trying to pass it at each of the state levels. And people really need to be up in arms about this and not let this happen so that there’s already 85 pesticides that are in use that are banned in Europe, that are so cancer causing and so toxic, and they want to have complete liability protection over all of them. So if there’s a cancer or a tumor or a seizure disorder or a birth defect or anything that’s found, they will have a zero liability for that.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, Dr. Sherry, we’ve run out of time. Thank you so much. What a wealth of information today, ladies and gentlemen. Ultimately, you and I have free will that God has given us. He’s given the intellect to be able to determine and to choose. There are consequences to our choices, but God’s word gives us the principles to address every issue that comes before us. Let’s go to that authority, submit ourselves to that authority, pray for wisdom, and God will direct the decisions that we make. Thanks for being with us today, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. God bless you.
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