Peace and Safety: Has it Arrived?

Peace and Safety: Has it Arrived?

October 6, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: JR McGee

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 10/06/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Monday edition as first Monday of October. Stand in the Gap Today program. And as we begin this week, I know, I just know by the way, things are happening, there will be numerous developing major stories both here in America as well as around the world, and all of them vie for the attention of all people. But frankly, as we look at things here, in my opinion, very few of them are actually worth any serious comment. Most are just distraction. Theater would be in my words. But one item though that is worth further analysis, we’re going to put our attention here today, is that way because it bridges, I’m going to say various different things. It’s geopolitically important, it’s connected to biblical prophecy. It involves US foreign policy and then much more than that even. And what is it? Well, it’s the is Israeli Gaza, Hamas, and I can put other words into it, but you get the idea, the Israeli Hamas war concerning the Gaza that standoff right now, and it’s this protracted war fueled by political tactics into which while the president interjected himself last week with a peace proposal, of which we’ve talked about some in the program and highlighted by the fact that tomorrow October 7th will be the two year anniversary of that event.

So there are many ways a person I think could view this ongoing war, the potential peace agreement, and I’m going to say equally potential all-out war in the Middle East between Iran, Israel and the US that’s going on as we’ve talked. So I’ve asked returning guest JR McGee to join me again today and going to provide some analysis from his perspective of the Israeli Gaza Hamas War from a more of a military strategist perspective, JR spent his life within the military rubric of life and strategy and intelligence and strategic planning and counters and training of some of our military’s finest Navy Seals, Delta Force and others done it for 30 years. That’s his background, you know that if you listened to the program before, but he’s also currently the group founder and CEO of Extreme Leadership Group. So he’s in that area. So the title I’ve chosen to frame today’s the conversation between him and I, is this peace and safety, has it arrived? Some would like to believe JR. Welcome to the program,

JR McGee:

Sam. It’s always a pleasure to be with you and our audience and it gave me great pride to be part of your ministry and to be able to do some type of outreach to God’s people. Thank you.

Sam Rohrer:

You are welcome and it’s always a pleasure to have you on board. JR let’s get into, this leads us a little bit more of a foundation I’ve had last week. This event we’re talking about has been boiling for some time. It came to a highlight last week. I’ve had a couple different guests on different perspectives offering significant commentary on the war with Israel and Gaza and Trump’s peace proposal, which all of these are unfolding yet this week, last week. Then on Friday, I gave additional commentary and input on our Ask Sam Friday when co-host Dr. Isaac Crockett and I talked. But in the end, we all agreed that we are in unusual days, we are shaped by huge personalities. The media is driving things, there’s billions of dollars at stake, but at the end of the day, God’s sovereign hand, prophetic hand is steering all of that.

Now, in today’s analysis, I know we’re going to address some of these things, but I want you to add in what you’re seeing from your perspective. That being said, let me just start here. They’re wises. I want to know how if you were to sit down with other military strategists, how you would come together and you kind of gave a wise and watts and who’s, and that we’re going to walk through that with the two year anniversary of the Islamic terrorist Hamas invasion of occurring tomorrow. Why has this war been so hard to resolve? Why has the world reacted so differently and why, for instance, has the world increasingly shifted to blaming Israel the victim rather than Hamas the perpetrator? Put them all together,

JR McGee:

Sam, those are excellent questions and as usual, our problem’s going to be getting all those answers in enough time. But you got to go all the way back to 1947 to understand the genesis of this and the root cause, and that’s what the Islam is called, the Nakba, the catastrophe, the establishment of Israel in their eyes was a catastrophe. And their whole purpose, the sole purpose is to obliterate Israel, drive them from the land. And if you look at why this has been so difficult, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis are owned and operated by Iran. And Iran views it as their duty, their mission, their ordination from God to destroy Israel from the land. And Israel looks at this is a process of survival, of existential threat to the nation. Those two things, neither one can exist with the other one that those have to resolve with a winner and a loser before either side gives up.

That’s why this has been so prolonged, so dragged out, neither side’s willing to give up, neither side’s willing to give in neither side’s willing to give out. And you look at how the world has reacted to this, it’s been astonishing to me, and we’ll go into more detail into this later in the program, but a country that was attacked without provocation and attacked by murdering women and children, innocent civilians in some of the most horrific ways I’ve seen in my experience, in counter-terrorism, they’re the victims, but yet the nations, the United Nations, the people seem to be obsessed with blaming Israel. And I believe that this is purely satanic. This is Satan’s hand moving across the world to form the world against Israel. It says in the last days, every nation will be against Israel. And that’s what we’re saying. I can’t conceive of this happening this way even four or five years ago, but today the victim is being blamed and the victim is being held accountable and the people who are committing the war crimes, the people who are trying to commit genocide are actually being supported.

And we can look at how all of this is playing out, but there is a great deal to be understood in terms of why this is occurring and it’s religious and we all know that people’s religious beliefs are their most closely held beliefs. It’s what they will fight and die for. And when you’ve got one side willing to die to accomplish one thing and another group willing to die to survive, neither one of those two are going to give up until the other one gives in. It requires a surrender or it requires obliteration. Since the end of World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnamese war, the Iraq war, Afghanistan war, we’ve tried to negotiate settlements to solve these and not one single case is a negotiated settlement, proven effective. And yet we’re obsessed with going to do this in the Middle East where it’s the most emphatic and it’s the most emotional. We’re trying to impose a solution that has never worked.

Sam Rohrer:

Ladies and gentlemen, think about that. We say it often. What you believe is what you will do. It really applies to all of us, but it really applies in the Middle East when you have Islamists who say, Israel must be wiped off the map and Israel says, we want to live. Alright, stay with us, we’ll be back. JR McGee, my guest today will be back for peace and safety. If you’re just joining us today, thanks for being on board. We’re going into our second segment now. Our theme today is this, peace and safety has it arrived and you can guess by the title of that peace and safety it’s coming off of, well actually two events a couple of weeks ago, the third week of September, the United Nations met and they by a vote of 142 to about 10 opposed of which Israel and the United States were one and the others were very small, the others abstained.

But effectively the entire world body, the United Nations group voted to condemn Israel and voted to divide the lion into two state solution in violation of Joel chapter three, A major problem from God’s perspective. That was one, and they used the word specifically peace and security. Then last Monday, if you all remember as well, we’ve talked about last week and a couple of times the president emerged with Benjamin Netanyahu and the White House and he announced his peace plan proposal that really kind of jumped over a little bit of the United Nations plan and he took now the world stage in his proposal, put out some plans and gave Hamas a few days to respond and all those kinds of things. But he used the words peace and safety. Now we’re going to talk more about those because peace and security, peace and safety come right off the pages of scripture.

So the world is thinking right now, well what’s going to happen in the Middle East? Is this the time of peace? And hence the title and the question. But JR let’s go back onto that because you’re walking through here and looking at that whole dilemma of Gaza, Hamas, Israel, and why it’s been at this point impossible to actually generate peace. But let’s go to the what now you talk about the why in the last part of it. Numerous past presidents have all envisioned themselves as bringing peace to the Middle East. Everybody wants to be a peacemaker. No one has interjected himself though perhaps more than the current president. And we’ll get into some more of the specifics on the peace proposal in just a bit. But before we go there, from a military or geopolitical analysis perspective, we were perspective as you deal with things, how do you describe the root cause? The what of this conflict that is making? Well, any agreement towards peace thus far impossible and tied into this, what do you perceive as each side wanting? Because that’s got to be a part of any agreement.

JR McGee:

It does. Sam, and I hate to say this, but you’ve got to go all the way back into the Bible, back to Abraham’s times. This actually began with Abraham’s two sons, Isaac and Ishmael, and they hated each other. And Ishmael, the Bible says every man’s hand will be against him and he’ll be a wild man. That’s the nature of where we are with this. There’s these two different factions grew up out of those two sons. And the root cause is one side wants the other side to be destroyed. The other side wants to just find some way to live in peace. And I’ve got to look at this in terms of exactly what’s going on. What will each side do to win? And we’ve looked at Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis. They fire unguided rockets at civilians, every rocket they fire, they don’t really know where it’s going to land and therefore they’re landing on homes, churches, synagogues, hospitals, ambulances.

They’re deliberately attacking human civilians. That’s a war crime. And you look at what Israel has done, Israel has used guided weapons. They actually have a specific kind of a mortar shell called a knock knock has no warhead in it. It simply launches, guides in lands on top of a building and there’s a message in that building. It spreads leaflets that says, danger, we’re going to attack this building, please leave this building. They’re doing everything that they can to protect civilians, and yet they’re accused of genocide. It’s the most warped thing I’ve ever seen in my life. One side will do anything to kill anybody, to win the other side risk their own soldiers’ lives. They risk inordinate amounts of money and capital and resources to protect their enemy. When have you ever seen a war where one side feeds the other side and fuels the other side with energy and gas and diesel for their generators and provides medical care for their enemy while they’re fighting? I don’t think I can point to a single example where that’s happened anywhere in the world.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, JR, let me throw in here because people are asking, and you and I had never worked into this, what we’re laying out this roadmap specifically, but I’ve got to ask that because you are saying with great confidence, Israel is not attacking innocent. But yet on the world stage, and as you said in the last segment and we’ve talked about the sentiment of the world is shifting where the victim Israel in the attack two years ago, tomorrow, October seven, are being identified as the marauders, the attackers and the pictures are continually being shown of buildings in Gaza that are completely leveled and therefore that is Israel. They are the destroyers. They are the destructs. Alright, give me your military analysis of how that narrative is changing if what you are saying is true.

JR McGee:

Well, it’s been a brilliant strategy by Hamas and the Islamist. What they do is they set up their military people, their operations, their guns and their missiles in the basements of civilian houses. They surround themselves with women and children. They set up their biggest headquarters in the basement of their largest hospital in the middle of Gaza City. Their deliberate strategy, what they’re doing is surrounding themselves innocent civilians so that no matter what happens, they’re injured or killed. Israel is not targeting them. Israel has killed some civilians. There’s no doubt. I mean that’s the nature of warfare. Look at Dresden in World War II. You don’t have to go very far to find out that in war, civilians suffer, but the Islamists are deliberately using civilians and women and children as human shields, which is a war crime. And it’s impossible for Israel to conduct this without some type of civilian injuries, simply because the way that the Hamas troops have been using them as shields guarantees that they’re injured and sometimes injured first, but it’s not Israel’s desire. It’s an unfortunate outcome of the strategy that’s being used by the Islamist to create those exact scenarios so that they can then trumpet that to the world and paint Israel as a monster.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, and JR I wanted you to be able to say that because we know that across America, the attitudes of particularly younger are moving against Israel and it’s a lot of it is based on what they are seeing in the graphics and in these pictures and in that narrative and it is effective. But as you are saying, it’s because Hamas and Islamic thought is we don’t care about the lives of the innocent people, so we’ll hide behind them so that no matter what happens, we can point our finger and say, see what Israel’s doing. So I think that’s important to get out. Now let me just ask you this question here in this section here on the what and that is this. What in your opinion will each side, Israel and Hamas, what are they willing to do to proclaim victory? Because both of them want to walk away and say we have won. In other words, what is each one willing to perhaps give up to proclaim victory?

JR McGee:

I want to answer that, but I also want to address that last statement you just made. There’s something I’ve been watching strategically that is extremely curious and that is in the last week, the very people in America in particular and in Europe in general that have been promoting Hamas and the Palestinians have not once shut down a bridge. Not once have they stopped traffic, not once have they done anything to encourage Hamas to accept the peace deal. That’s a very odd behavior from somebody that is screaming up and down to protect the Palestinians,

That they’re not encouraging them to take the peace deal to ensure their survival. Now here’s the other thing. We have to understand that the Hamas is in a survival mode right now. They want to survive. They know that no matter how this wears out or finishes Israel is going to hold them accountable. So they’re trying to find a way to survive all this. They’re delaying this. They said just before the Sunday evening deadline at 6:00 PM Eastern, they said, oh, we’ll accept this, but we want to negotiate this. We want to rechange this, we want to do this. They’re fighting a delaying action and we have now said, yes, we will go negotiate this further. They’re now in Egypt renegotiating the hostages and all the other things that they said were not going to be negotiable. So the Hamas is trying to delay this. The Israelis are trying to find a way to end this so that their people are safe and secure. One side wants to continue the war, the other side wants to end it so that they can keep their people safe and they can just go about their lives and live their lives and do their business and enjoy living as opposed to being slaughtered from the air, from missiles that just continually fall from the sky.

Sam Rohrer:

Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going into our break here right now, but JR, you’ve laid it out really well and I’m glad you went all the way back into the Old Testament first because from that, the word of God has laid out and then basically told us a lot of what is actually unfolding and it does go down again. Ladies and gentlemen, think about this. You do what you believe, you do what you believe. So if you believe that Israel is illegitimate and needs to be completely and totally destroyed, well then it’s pretty tough, isn’t it? If you’re not going to give up on that, fighting continues. And that’s where a lot of it starts. Now when you come back, we’re going to talk a little bit more about now more tactics, how Israel is fighting this, how Hamas is fighting. Welcome back to Standing the Gap today.

And as we continue today, again, our theme is this, if you’re just joining us, is peace and safety has it arrived and we’re focusing on the Middle East and the various peace proposals, whether it be by the United Nations, back the third week of September, which was not so much a peace agreement as much as a framework for peace in which they cited peace and security, which is not going to bring about. And they condemned Israel and they demanded a separate Palestinian state, which brings them right into conflict with biblical commands and particularly Joel chapter three. So that’s a problem as we know, as a Bible believer of what they did and are seeking to do. Then the President last Monday came out with his peace proposal and that sets up some things as well. Now, let me go further into that here as we get into a little bit more of what that peace plan is, but then we’ll go back to JR McGee, my guess, and talk a little bit more about the how of what the Palestinians Hamas is doing and Israel there in the Gaza.

Again, just a refresher here, about a week ago now, Donald Trump, as you know, announced a peace plan where Prime Minister Netanyahu, among other things, had to apologize to Qatar. Qatar pronunciation, Qatar, for attacking a meeting of Hamas leaders in Tahu, the capital of Qatar. That was a big deal because Israel went into a neighboring country and so forth. But that happened. Now, according to Israel national news, Trump advisors, Steve Whitcoff, who’s been circulating in the Middle East, making arrangements and working on treaties. He’s with Ukraine as well, but in the Middle East, he’s there working with Jared Kushner, who is the son-in-law, though not officially a part of the administration this term, the two of them as reported in Israel National news were horrified by the Israeli strike and Qatar. But they also saw an opportunity that became the 20 point, some say 21 point, depending on how you look at it.

The Gaza Peace Plan. Now, between them, the two of them, and former UK Prime Minister and globalist Tony Blair, they quickly composed the peace plan. And as it’s recounted there in other places, the history of this was they gave it to Trump, who then reviewed it with certain Arab nation leaders during the UN Gathering. That was about around the third week or so there of September in New York. And according to the article and others, they said that Trump presented the plan to Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu last Thursday. That was the week ago, now it’s back. But then remained a concern that Netanyahu would reject it. One source claimed that Trump told Netanyahu, take it or leave it. If you leave, we’re leaving you. Meaning the United States would walk away from Israel still in the article saying Netanyahu made. Then some suggestions, some of which Trump accepted and others he rejected.

Trump then stated that he would give Israel his full backing if Netanyahu accepted the deal and Hamas rejected it while Netanyahu then stood with Trump when the president unveiled the plan on Monday. Alright, so Netanyahu accepted it. Hamas is what we’re talking about. We don’t yet know. They’re begging for more time to work it out. Now JR in the next segment, mostly we’re going to discuss this peace plan a bit more, and I think there’s hundreds of billions of dollars that are going on here because coming out of this already, there is the goal, and the president actually talked about it as well, development, talking about a development plan, and they’re talking about a Gaza real estate development deal. This is now out there, it’s fully available Trump, Blair, Kushner, Witkoff, Saudi Arabia’s involved, cutters involved in it. It’s a consortium. It’s more of a real estate development deal than almost as peace planned. But now continuing your analysis, let’s talk about how have the enemies of Israel be they Hamas or Qatar or Iran behind Hamas or more generally the Palestinians in the Gaza. How have they actually fought this war the past two years? If you need to distinguish the enemies of Israel in this conflict, if you need to do that,

JR McGee:

I will, Sam, and it’s been a really interesting thing to watch. The Hamas initiated this almost without consultation. They surprised many people on their side and Hamas went to school on Israel. They knew that Israel had superior technology, superior guided weapons, superior reconnaissance, all of the things that they needed to prevail in a traditional man on man company, on company battle, on battle scenario. So what they did is they went underground. I was shocked. And a lot of the people that I’ve spoken with were shocked at how extensive the tunneling in Gaza has been. We knew there were tunnels, we knew there were a lot of tunnels, we knew there were deep tunnels. I don’t think anybody realized just how extensive those tunnels were. They were massive, and I don’t mean big, but what I mean is there was a lot of them miles and miles and miles of tunnels, and those were incredibly difficult to detect, much less defeat.

But the Israelis developed some technology to do that. They’ve been very, very effective at demolishing these tunnels. But that was the principle way that Hamas fought the war. They used the tunnels to hide. They used the time to come out of the tunnels to launch unguided rockets at Israel to create as much chaos and fear as possible, and they were retreat back into the tunnels for safety. Israelis fought this by trying to focus on the key elements, the key leadership. They took out Yaya Swar, they took out all of the brigade commanders. If you notice, almost all of the deaths that were attributed were to military leaders, unit commanders, people of influence and responsibility. They have gone after some of the regular soldiers, but they actually targeted the leaders to try to, and the plan, the strategy was for them to take out the leadership and the rest would give up.

Well, that didn’t work out quite that way because Hamas realized very quickly that because of October 7th and the atrocities that they committed, they were in a battle for their life. They were not going to survive unless they won. So Israel has been fighting this in order to show them they can’t win and to force them into giving up or dying. And Hamas has been fighting. This is a delaying tactic thinking that they could either wear down Israel or what they truly hoped was when they attacked on October the seventh, they honestly thought that Hezbollah, Houthis, Iran in particular, Syria, Yemen, these countries were going to come in on their side and aid them with the surprise and the chaos that they created On October 7th, 2023. What happened is everybody stood on the sideline and watched to see what Israel was going to do, and that allowed Israel to focus entirely on Hamas.

Hezbollah did try very briefly to come into the war, but very quickly they lost all of their key leadership. Israel performed a brilliant strategy with the pagers and the radios. That took out, again, the key leadership. Most of the key leaders had the pagers and the radios, so it might not have two or 3000 people, may not have sound like much, but that was almost all of the key leadership of Hezbollah. So they were out, they’re done. They didn’t want any more part of this, and Iran, they didn’t support their proxies other than Yemen. Now the Houthis fired another ICBM at Israel yesterday afternoon, and Hamas fired more missiles at Israel last night. That doesn’t sound like the actions of some group that’s focused on trying to find a peaceful solution to this. So it’s been very interesting to watch how this has been fought and who’s actually doing it is even more important.

Looking at where we go with this and how it’s going to be played out, there’s a great deal of information to be learned from both sides on how they’re doing this and how they’re pursuing it. And if you look at the strategy that is being implemented at this moment, Hamas is in a strategy of delay, denial and defense. Israel is trying to find a way to negotiate this through all these different players to find some way to keep their people safe. Netanyahu is fighting a terrible battle on his right with a couple of his prime ministers that are fighting this peace agreement tooth and nail. He’s fighting a battle on the left with people that want him to just give up and give in, and he’s trying to walk an extremely tight, tight rope and watching how he negotiates this and working with his allies like Donald Trump is doing some great things, but Donald Trump is making it very difficult for Israel to find a path forward to this that they can accept. Because if Hamas finds any way to survive this, they will claim that as a victory. And if Hamas is able to survive and claim a victory than any peace deal that comes out, is nothing more than an opportunity for them to regroup, re-arm and re-attack two, three years down the road. Sam

Sam Rohrer:

1. Again, what you’re laying out from a military strategist perspective is very akin to the whole political aspect. The United Nations said very clearly their document that the only way there could be a piece in the Middle East would be, and they said these words politically negotiated. The President is trying to politically and throw in the economic development component piece as a solution. But as you said from the beginning, this goes right back to what people believe in Ladies and gentlemen, that takes them right back to how do they view God and what the Bible says, which is exactly where every person ultimately will come and have to go. Now when we come back, we’re going to look a little bit some of the who involved, talk a bit more about the peace plan and really what comes out of it from that. As we go into our final segment here now, we’re going to try and wrap this discussion up a little bit here and JR I’m going to go to you in just a minute.

Lemme just share just a few more comments about the peace plan because I think right now this is the focus, this is kind of like the structure of whether or not people will agree to it. And as I said in the last segment, ladies and gentlemen, the world is attempting to solve a problem that has everything to do with God being God and the devil challenging God’s prominence and his position sin the result God going to Abraham years ago and making his covenant promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, which involved Israel and then all of that that we talk about here, prophetically and then Christ coming, the Jewish leadership rejecting him, the church age being put into this picture, God bringing Israel back into the land, 1947, which JR mentioned the first segment and doing what only God can do, bringing the people back from the nations, the nation being born in a day as scripture talks and now brings it up to the point where we are now, where the enemies, the devil ultimately of God’s plan.

And the people who agree with that are all about trying to derail God’s plan. And that’s what’s happening. And you’ve got people who are involved in the process of all of this. You have our nation, a friend of Israel, mostly nations in Europe, sometime friendly, oftentimes not the nations around Israel, depending upon what’s happening they are, but mostly they’re not because they’re Islamic. And you have all these things happening even in Israel itself, important to bear in mind in Israel, even the leadership in Israel, biblically are there in unbelief. In other words, even the leadership of Israel are not there as recognizers of Jesus as the Messiah. They do not yet recognize Jesus as Yeshua. So what we are watching is not necessarily people even in Israel doing what they’re doing because they agree with biblical prophecy. They’re not. They are doing what God is super intending them to do.

That’s an important thing to understand. And people are doing what they’re doing politically, these nations of the world, what they think is going to accomplish for them the best. And they’re not doing what they’re doing because they know who God is, right? So that’s the important part. I just want to mention here, and Iman is going to jump over what I was going to say about the peace plan, but that does involve a $330 billion plan. Those dollars are out there. Reza development that came out of the Kushner Trump, Saudi Arabia, Tony Blair plan, that’s a part of what they’ve put out there. It’s a major plan and it accomplishes what they’re wanting to do is what the president said back months ago. He wanted to create in the Gaza, the Riviera of Europe. That’s what’s involved. There’s billions of dollars involved in real estate development now.

Okay, let’s go into this JR. My short introduction there is, I’ve mentioned about it, there’s a peace plan. Yes, it has a lot to do about economic development and political advantage, but here, let me just go into this. It still has a two-state solution. The Trump plan still recognizes the two-state solution just like the un. That’s a problem from God’s perspective. What are your thoughts about the involvement of both who’s involved in this plan JR? And to put it to perspective, who are the villains perhaps if you look that way, who are the true and the faithful maybe that way when it comes to Israel and real peace as we look at this whole matter now?

JR McGee:

Well, Sam, there’s a lot of players in this and each of these players are playing a significant role for Hamas. You’ve got Khalil Al and he seems to be taking over the leadership of Hamas after the death of Yaya Slar. And for Qatar or Qatar, I like to say Qatar Sheik Muhammad bin Abdulah Ram Alfani. He’s a key player in Qatar and he’s been leading these negotiations from Qatar’s perspective as a facilitator. And he took great umbrage when Israel attacked Cutter to go after the Hamas leadership that they were protecting. To be honest with you, Egypt is represented by Hassan Rashad, who’s the director for the General Intelligence Agency of Egypt. And then for our side you got Steve Whitcoff and apparently, I’m just going to say he’s the guy for delicate international discussions with difficult situations anywhere in the world. Apparently, Ben McGirk has been playing a big role in this.

He’s the White House coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa. Adam Bowler is the special envoy for the White House on hostage response. And then of course Jared Kushner, I don’t know if I’d call him the money man, but he is always involved in some of these. He gets people to talk to each other. And I don’t know exactly how he does that. Tony Blair used to be the prime Minister of England. He’s been involved in the Middle East for most of his life and he’s on this new panel. If they put together this peace board that they’re talking about, obviously Benjamin Netanyahu is a big player in this, but as I said earlier, Benjamin Netanyahu is being opposed internally by Imar. Ben Vere, who’s the National Security Minister and the leader of the Sima Yi potty, and then who’s a finance minister and the leader of the religious Zionism party.

They’re very right wing. They don’t want to do anything other than destroy the threat to Israel. And they’re not in favor of accepting this deal. Now you want to know who’s the real architect of all this is God, God, Sam, God has set all of this up, is following his plan, is following everything he wants. All of these things have to occur in this order for his ultimate goal and for his prophecy to be fulfilled. And if you look at the ultimate villain, it’s clearly Satan. I know that a lot of people say, oh God and Satan, now you’re not talking about military, you’re not talking about strategy. Yes I am. There is a God, there is Satan. They are players in this. And if you can’t see that at this point, you’re being willfully ignorant. You’re choosing not to see it. It’s incredibly obvious in terms that this is a spiritual battle. And spiritual battles typically do not have an earthly solution. They’re not easily solved by money or politics. And that’s exactly what we’re seeing here. People are throwing money in politics at a crisis that’s clearly between God and Satan. Neither one of them care for our money and neither one of them care for our politics.

Sam Rohrer:

And Jared that brings us to this personally. Individually, our listeners are not in the political. We’re not telling Whitcoff what to do, and we’re not telling that Yahoo what to do. They’re doing what they’re doing directed by the hand of God. The king’s heart is in the hand of the Lord. He moves it with us who was very will. It’s exactly what you were saying. But as we look at times peace and safety, we got war going on and all these things, what should be the response of God-fearing people as we look at these events unfolding,

JR McGee:

We should pay attention to them, but we should be joyful. Not because people are at war, but because we’re seeing God’s word come to pass. If you ever wanted any kind of proof that the Bible can be trusted, that the Bible is accurate, that the Bible’s true, you’re seeing it before your very eyes take a newspaper in one hand and a Bible in the other one. They absolutely align down to the letter. And as you look at all of this, we should be talking to people who are on the sidelines or people who don’t believe we should be talking to them about what’s coming next so that when they see it, they say, oh, they said that was going to happen. Maybe what they’re saying is true. God’s prophecy is twofold. It’s to tell us what’s going to happen in the future and it’s to prove to the unbelievers that his word is true. We should be using that at every opportunity to reach the people that we have. Zacharia 12 three says. And in that day, I will make Jerusalem a burden stone for all people and all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. That’s today, Sam and I say all of our politicians that are involving themselves and trying to come up with a peace deal, it’s not going to be a

Sam Rohrer:

Peace deal. Yes, will and JR. It’s not going to work out well. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re at the end of the program. Sir, we’ve got to run. Thanks for being with us today and the Lord willing, join us back here tomorrow. The Lord willing.