Ask Sam – Sam’s Trip to Israel & Current Events
Episode 76
November 14, 2025
Host: Dr. Isaac Crockett
Co-host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 11/14/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, hello and welcome to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and with me today is the Honorable Sam Rohr, the President of the American Pastors Network, the regular host of this Stand in the Gap Today program. And on this Friday edition, Sam, we want to ask you a bunch of questions. But first of all, welcome back and this is our first program together since you’ve come back. So welcome back and thanks for being on the program,
Sam Rohrer:
Isaac, it’s great to be back with you. And I want to thank you and Jamie as well, who filled in during the time that I was gone. Thank you so much for that. It’s great to have a team that is capable and does a good job, and so thank you for that. But it’s great to be with you today. It was a lot to go over
Isaac Crockett:
Well, and it’s been good hearing your voice again on Thursday’s program with Brian Osborne and then you and Dr. Brogue on Wednesday and things, but especially good to be talking to you in the flesh on this Friday. Ask Sam, we can’t do the Ask Sam if there’s no Sam to ask. But thanks for being on this. And I want to just start with this media summit, Christian Media Summit that you were at. This was I think the seventh Christian Media Summit taking place over in Israel. You’ve been on these before, you’ve mentioned some about it, but I don’t know if there’s any more detail you want to mention or talk about just explaining this trip that took you back over to Israel.
Sam Rohrer:
I will Isaac and just briefly, it’s really kind of an interesting thing, Christian Media Summit. It’s a why in the world is there a Christian media summit in Israel when they are a Jewish nation? Well, in several terms, it’s because that whether it’s politically or religiously, however, one would look at it within the nation of Israel, they know that the greatest friends of Israel, of Jewish people of Jerusalem, of the nation of Israel, not just the state of Israel as some of the anti-Israel people are talking about the state of Israel, the secular state of Israel. It is, it’s a nation. But the greatest friends of the nation of Israel have always been and historically are Bible believing Christians. Isaac, you’ve witnessed Jewish people. I have witnessed to many and been able to lead a number to the Lord. It’s been a wonderful thing. But I’ve heard many say to me orthodox rabbis that have been able to engage in talking about the Bible and God’s covenant promises to Israel and Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and what that means, and the prophesied coming of the Messiah, which they have not accepted generally, obviously unless they’re Messianic.
But then I talk about that and then all those things, they ultimately come and they open up and we can have great conversations. And ultimately a number of them have said, we have found that the more Bible believing a Christian is the more a friend of Israel they are. So it’s not Christian in name only, but it’s Bible believing Christian that believe what the Bible says. And I found that to be true, Isaac. So regarding to that, out of the Prime Minister’s office there in the government of Israel, they have a PR or an entity that’s for the purpose of helping to communicate to Friends of Israel wherever they may be. And the segment Christian Media Summit was one that they’ve come up with in order to invite people to go. And then there are special presentations we can talk more about where we went and saw different things within Israel get update information.
But the Christian Media Summit are people who are involved like ourselves here at Standing the Gap today that have involved in some degree of radio or TV where they’re communicating to people about Israel, the Middle East and are favorable at least to some degree. And Isaac, there were about 125 people that were there, about 20 I suppose were from the United States. The rest were from other countries of the world. So I mean from Finland and Sweden and Germany and Albania and other countries of Africa, really surprising that there would be Christian media in these countries, but there are people who love Israel view the scripture just like we do. But they were there as a part of that. So a benefit was being able to kind of relate with others who from other countries about what they’re seeing happening in their countries relative to Christianity, communication of the truth and the attitude toward Israel as well as what they thought about the United States and what’s happening here and what’s taking place and all of those things. There’s a number of things that came out of the summit, which was very, very valuable.
Isaac Crockett:
Sam, we don’t have much time left before our first break, but I’d like to try to squeeze in some of what you did there. We saw some pictures actually on our Facebook page. If any of you haven’t gone there, you’d like to look at Stand in the Gap Today, Facebook, a couple of posts from a few days ago. There we have pictures of you and your wife, Ruthann there at the Sea of Galilee and then in the Golan Heights. And so you can kind of see you in the water behind you. And then there’s a little stream, and then the other one you see, you guys, it looks like quilt work behind you, almost like an aerial view, and then these tunnel looking things with concrete and things. Do you want to explain any of what you saw there in Capernaum, the Sea of Galilee and what you were able to see at the heights of Golan Heights?
Sam Rohrer:
Yeah, yeah, I can. And Isaac, my wife said, did you find these pictures really to be interesting? I did. I didn’t put answers down for all of them, but I showed like the one as an example, a lot of people don’t understand it, but I showed a little what appeared to be a little creek. I mean literally a little creek,
Five feet across type that was the Jordan River flowing into the Sea of Galilee on the north side. What struck me again was that it was literally so small because by the time it goes through the Sea of Galilee and it goes out the bottom, which ultimately ends in the Dead Sea, there’s no water left because they’ve used it up for irrigation or whatever reason. But it was just put that in context so people understand that there’s very little going into it. The other was a picture from up on top of the Golan Heights. I had not been up on that level before because the Golan Heights, if you picture the Sea of Galilee running north and south, the Jordan River comes down from up and towards Lebanon area, comes down into it. The Golan Heights is up to the upper and right side. That was an area held by Syria.
Israel now controls it. We were up on top of that. And from there you could look over into Syria to the east and a little bit to the north and to the northwest of that Golan Heights. Then you could look right into the nation of Lebanon, which is where battles with Hezbollah have taken place. And it was so easy to see why whoever controlled that piece of ground really controls the security of Israel and why the enemies of Israel protested so loudly that Israel would not have that high ground. They wanted the high ground for what purpose so that they could throw lob rockets more easily into Israel. So I sent those pictures that I did just to give a perspective that this area is very, very real. It’s very strategic, and a lot of what we hear on the news is just when you’re there it looks different and it’s understandable why Israel is so concerned about enemies all around them. They’re so small, they can just come at them at any time.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, Sam, that’s fascinating. We want to talk more about your trip, more about what you saw firsthand. You were over in Israel back in 2023 before the October 7th attacks. Now you’ve gone back since the peace treaties and things that are hopefully holding. And so we want to get your firsthand knowledge on what you saw, but we’re going to take a quick time out to hear from some of our partners here on Stand the Gap today. We’ll be right back after this. Well, welcome back to the program and I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett. I’m talking with Sam Rohr. It’s an Ask Sam Friday. We’re glad to have Sam back safe and sound from his travels over to Israel and Sam as we look at that. I’m trying to remember, but if I remember correctly, you were last over in Israel before this back in 2023, before October 7th, October 7th, 2023 attack, and you were actually in some of the areas I think close to or maybe even in where Hamas attacked and now you’ve gone back and obviously a huge difference now in 2025 now that they’ve recently started this peace agreement and things and the war is supposed to be over.
So we just want to talk with you about what you saw, what your since on things was, what did you notice, what difference did you see? And I know you’ve talked a little bit about this, especially on Wednesday with Dr. Brogue. Carl was over there recently as well, but could you just kind of fill us in on what it was like going back over there? Now all this has happened,
Sam Rohrer:
Isaac, I can just a couple of highlights. I guess. One, as Dr. Burge said on the program on Wednesday, his sense, because he’d been there about six weeks prior, I noticed as well the number of visitors are far less than what is normal. Generally Jerusalem and the areas around there are overrun by tour groups and buses everywhere with people going on tours. There were a few, but hardly any by comparison yet. Those that we ran into shop owners and others we talked with, they were all so thankful. The hotel people were just so thank you for coming again, because for them, tourism is their lifeblood for most of them. So that was one thing, a few people coming back and very, very happy Israelis that that was taking place. Number one. Number two was this. I did go down to Gaza as part of our trip that we were a part of the Christian Media Summit.
We went down to Gaza and in 2023 when I was there just a few months before the October 7th attack in the kibbutz, the kibbutz that was down there, we were there and visited again this time. Now, what was really different is that in the area where the attack actually took place and where there was a concert going on, and people remember that that area where the actual concert was, they have now set up with flowers arrangement marking where people had been killed there. We went into the little kibbutz, the conglomeration of houses where the people were living very nice, but these houses were burned out. Some of them have been torn down and some of them may be rebuilding, but you could see still the residual impact. And then to learn more of actually what took place right there. And we were at the fence where they came across.
But then when we’re talking to those who were involved in defense, the local police and so forth that were involved there, telling us about how actually it was executed and how four and 5,000 the Hamas came across at one point and how they went to actually a couple locations of the IDF. And they had known who was there. It was an off time, it was on Shabbat was on the weekend. And so they went there and there were soldiers that were killed, not just the people there on the ground. And so Isaac, all of those things was very real because we were able to see firsthand right there where this was taking place. And one of the things I thought was interesting was that there were many people who survived that were a part of it. They told us they just weren’t up to coming back.
The trauma so deep, so extensive, they just couldn’t go back to that area. But on the other hand, there were others, there are some newer people that were not there but knew what took place there have moved in and beginning to set up these little settlements. It’s an agricultural settlement is what it is. These kibbutz areas down there, they’ve raised tremendous crops. It’s an amazing thing. Some of them are moving in and just an indication of the resilience of the people say, yes, terrible things happened, but we’ve got to move on and we have our children to be concerned about and so we’re going to move forward. And that was just one of the oversights of the whole thing. But it was tough. It was emotional to be there.
Isaac Crockett:
I want to get into some more things here shortly because you did travel internationally to get there. You had to some stops otherwhere and you traveled internationally last year to Africa. But before we go there, I know on Wednesday you discussed antisemitism with Dr. Brogue and one of the things he defined antisemitism as an irrational hatred toward the Jewish people. And he also argued it’s a satanic type of thing. But he also said, because you asked him about this, you said basically, is it antisemitism if we question, say the government of Israel or the policies of the government of Israel? And he was saying, that’s not being antisemitic, just as if we question what our government is doing. That critiquing or disagreeing is not being antisemitic, but it’s this hatred towards the people, this wanting to annihilate the people of the land or take them away from their land. The land that even as Joshua was going back into the land, God reminded him how he had given it to his forefathers. But could you maybe just very briefly tie in some of what you talked about on Wednesday, but some of this overall antisemetic rising in fear that the people there in Israel sense that there’s a hatred growing against them again?
Sam Rohrer:
Yes, I can. And that was a takeaway, Isaac. I shared it then on the program, but one of the biggest takeaways I had was that it was very, very clear that the Jewish leaders and the others very much aware of what’s all happening in the news and so forth very clearly they know that the anti-Semitic view hatred to Israel is growing around the world. All one has to do is just look at what the United Nations does. And so it’s very clear there, but their friend, their one friend has been the United States, but now they are sensing that things are changing there. The trust in the United States has been strong, but it is weakening. Why is it weakening? Well, it’s weakening in part Isaac because they know the research that’s changing. Some years ago, five, six years ago, 70% of evangelicals were supportive of Israel.
Now that’s down to 50%, some say 40%. The younger generations down below 25% or below that even, they’re looking and saying, wait a minute, this nation that’s been our friend defender, so to speak, how long will that continue? And rightly it’s right that they’re asking that. They’re also looking at things that are involved with what Donald Trump is saying. On the one hand, they say, well, he’s been like King Cyrus. He’s for, he’s written great move to embassy here, done all these good things. But on the other hand, they look at like the peace arrangement and they say, we’re not so sure that’s the case. Because in reality, prominence is given more to enemies, Israel’s enemies than it is to Israel itself. And it does not recognize God’s promise to Israel about the land, which is what you said. Which brings it back again to the idea of what is an antisemite.
And an antisemite is what Carl said, and I agree with it. It is that it’s someone who says Israel has no specific right to exist. In other words, if they can fend off their enemies, then they’re fine, but they should not get any help and they have no special relationship to anybody, particularly to God. And so only me, Isaac, I go back and say, well, if a person says there is no relationship, special relationship between God and Israel, God and Jerusalem, God and the land given to the Jewish people as the scripture records, if a person says, I do not believe that, then they’re really anti-God. There really are. But then that leads to the Jews have no distinct right to exist. And that I think is what it gets down to. But as Isaac, as Carl said, and I agree, a person who supports Israel does not support them in everything that they do. Of course not. Israel of old was immoral in many cases. Israel today is in unbelief in the land. They have not yet accepted Yeshua, Jesus Christ as the Messiah and the tribulation period and what’s going to be coming forth prophetically is what will change all of that. But God chose them. He gave them property and boundary geographical boundaries. He gave them Jerusalem. And God says, that’s my city. He says, it’s my people. And he says, it’s my land. So anybody who argues against that, they’re ultimately arguing against God himself. And that’s even more dangerous.
Isaac Crockett:
And I would encourage anybody who’s listening today, if you didn’t listen to Wednesday’s program and if this is interesting to you, go back and listen to that more as Sam and Carl talk through what’s been going on and what’s kind of coming our way and some of these things happening, the good, the bad, and the ugly as the Old Western movie is titled, but the good and the bad, and it’s very interesting, just the sense that the people that you talked with there, the Jewish people had there in Israel, and then just what you saw being there. Same. We’re going to take another quick timeout. When we come back at the last half of our program here, we have a lot more questions to talk about. And a lot of things have happened since from 2024 to 2025. And sometimes when you go out of the country, you see more of that than when you’re sitting here.
And so I want to get your take on some of that as well as we’ll see how much time we have and how many questions we can fit in, as well as find out your thoughts on some of the most recent current events going on. And again, looking to the Bible and to our constitution to get good context for all of that. So we’re going to take another quick time out to hear from our partners, but we’ll be right back with more really good, really relevant questions for Sam Rohr when we come back to this break. Well, welcome back to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett. I’m talking with the honorable Sam Rohrer, the president of the American Pastors Network and the regular host of this program. And we’ve been talking about Sam’s recent trip to Israel and some of the different things he saw, some of the things he was learning over there, and just the difference from being over there a couple of years ago, being in some of the same spots that were hit during October, October 7th attack in 2023 versus now in 2025, the lack of tourism, the fear of growing antisemitism.
Just a lot of different things, Sam, that you talked about. And again, you went into more detail on the antisemitism part on our Wednesday program with Carl Brogue, but I would like to get a sense just traveling internationally, because before you left, there were some things that came out and some that we talked about on the radio even. And just curious what it was like. This is also a year now since Trump. Donald Trump was elected president again in November of 24, and so he’s not been president a full year, but it’s been a year since he was elected president. Before I go into asking some of the current events, just curious Sam, what international travel felt like this year. You went to Kenya last year and had some stopovers in Europe. Just curious, did it feel different this time around and what were some of those issues?
Sam Rohrer:
Isaac? It did feel different, and it was primarily because of this. I went into this particular trip having to go through Europe on the way to Israel, and then my wife and I then stopped in Israel. I stopped in Europe for a couple of days on the way back, so we knew we were going to have some stop over there. But Europe, as a result of the European Union, they are enacting a brand new heavily verified system that they were imposing on everybody who traveled through Europe. And it was interesting, it went into effect, supposed to have gone into effect on October 10th, so about a month ago. And so I expected to run into something of that type when I was there in Europe. But they were targeting and they had said information, they were targeting American citizens in particular, and what they were going to have to do was that they were going to have to forfeit look in the camera and forfeit their facial recognition and give up their at least, if not more fingerprints. So this was a brand new thing, and it’s all part of them controlling inflow and outflow out of the European Union. Of course, all good. They say, alright, well Isaac, this is what I’d walk away with. I have never showed my passport and I had a passport. I’d never showed my passport more. I mean even within an airport five times, checking in,
Going through surveillance, I mean multiple places. I’m like, literally, show me your, and then look at the camera, passport, look at the camera. Passport over and over and over and over again, more than I ever recall going through Europe. Then we actually went to Portugal for a couple of days when we were leaving the airport there in Lisbon, I noted new machines. They were still kind of packaged. They weren’t actually functioning, but they were the new machines that were to be a part of this new European Union system of checking in. So they were high tech looking and they had a camera on it and they had another thing. You stood in front of it and then on dash of the thing, more or less, there was an area for your hand print.
I’m not quite sure what it was that they were asking for your thumb, your finger or an entire hand to me. It was made for an entire hand and it was called a derma scan. That was the actual name. They had a derma for skin, so a skin scan. But that was all there, and we had to go through germ at one point, and I asked the guys checking there, I said, interesting. You got a new system going into effect. Is it actually there? I said, nah, probably not actually going to happen until the end of December, but it’s coming and it’s totally unified. Well, the point for saying all that Isaac was leaving our country coming back into our country crossing Europe. Israel’s been this way for some time. You’ve had to look into a camera and they do their thing. But it was a standard system. That was the thing. It was cameras everywhere, taking pictures everywhere, the expansive use into European Union collecting fingerprints and more. I’m not sure what all else, but that unified global surveillance and communication system was the part I felt Isaac for more than I ever had in the past. And of course that is happening and that’s being pushed extraordinarily hard right here in the United States.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, Sam, there’s so many questions, current events that we want to get into, but I don’t think we can get into all of them. Looking at this shutdown that just finally came to an end, as you had predicted, it was a very long one, the longest one. I think there’s things going down in the Caribbean between America and Venezuela. There’s the tariffs and talks about tariffs, and there’s just a lot of questions. But let’s start maybe real quickly with the government shutdown you had predicted, because I kept thinking even when we would talk about it, I’d say even by the end of this program, maybe the government shutdowns will be over. And you kept saying, I think it’s going to be long. They’re sending out signs that this is going to be a very long impasse, and I think it was the longest one, but just your thoughts on how all of that took place up until just Wednesday night or Thursday morning or whatever it was when it came to an end.
Sam Rohrer:
Well, in reality, Isaac, I think it was telegraphed early. It’s a little bit of a political showdown. It’s an attempt to force everyone’s anticipation, keep everybody on edge. And of course, it did keep people on edge every new day. It’s a shutdown shut down in the fearful aspect of what that’s going to mean. And in the end, how many people were really affected by the shutdown? Not many, but it drug out. So it provided political posturing. Republicans blaming the Democrats, Democrats were playing the Republican, and everything just kind of moves along real slowly and both sides appearing that they can’t afford to give in because they’re going to be weaker. So it’s a political game. It’s a political game that was that way. I think one thing that entered into it, which may have prolonged it a little bit more than perhaps what they were anticipating Isaac perhaps, was, was that when there was a new congresswoman, I think from, was it Arizona that was elected, she had agreed to add her name to a discharge petition for releasing the Epstein files and that she would’ve been number 84.
Had that happened, the House of Representatives, they would’ve had to have honored and allowed that discharge petition to kick out the Epstein files. And every day that Mike Johnson on behalf of the house went forward during this whole shutdown. That question kept coming up, why won’t you seat this congressional woman? Well, because we don’t want, it was tortured in my opinion, but I think the Epstein files and that fact that there were enough people, Democrats and Republicans to force this discharge petition, it became a part of the subject that the president was getting involved in. And during these last days, he’s been inviting Republicans over to the White House to try and force them to take their name off this discharge petition. I think that came into it and extended it probably further than was involved, but that’s an unfolding thing. So there were a lot of pieces. I think we see parts of what was taking place, but it was a power play for a number of reasons. People had their own things to try to prove.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, Sam, and maybe we’ll get into some of this in our last segment, but you’re talking about President Trump, the tariffs. He’s floated this idea of sending money up to $2,000 back to everybody. I’m curious what you think about that. Is he just trying to get everybody to like him again? Is there a good reason for that? Is there really enough money from tariffs for that? Just get some of your thoughts, and I know we’ll probably have to talk about that more in the next segment.
Sam Rohrer:
I think that the tariff, that potential of giving back 2000 people is a political ploy. Here’s the point of it. If $2,000 are given back to the people that they’re talking about, which is basically 150, 150 million Americans, adults who make under $100,000, that’s basically what they’re talking about. That is going to cost $300 million, $300 billion. Well, how much money is the tariff raising? Well, the tariff revenue projections for this next year are 216 million. So you’re going to be giving away more than is coming in. In reality though, the cost that is assumed that have raised people, their cost of living and the price of what they are buying as a result of the tariffs are about 2000 a year. So it becomes like an offset to what the tariffs have created in higher price for goods. There’s a lot of, in my opinion, there’s a lot of monkey business going on involved in this. And in reality, the president can’t do it. Only Congress can authorize a giving out of things. So it’s something to hold out a carrot to people at a point when economically things are not good for the American people. The numbers are very, very, very clear. A million people already have been laid off this year in 2025 a million. So I think there’s a lot of games going on and a lot of narrative protection that has taken place. Isaac, I’m not overly excited about any of it.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, that’s very interesting. We’re going to take another quick time out to hear from some of our partners and come back as we wrap things up, just get some further perspectives and answers from Sam Roar as we ask him about some of the things we’re hearing about in the news, looking at it with some context, looking to what the biblical view should be on this constitutional view. A few more things to do, and we want to wrap up this program today when we come back this time out. We’ll, welcome back to our program as we finish up this Ask Sam edition of our Friday edition of Standing in the Gap today. Sam, I want to go back to what you were talking about as we finished the last segment, and you talk a lot about how listening to the real narrative, looking for the truth, looking beyond the headlines, and really what you were saying in that last segment is that there’s a lot of narrative shaping.
And so you were pointing out this idea that’s being floated apparently by Donald Trump of possibly back $2,000 to adults making under a hundred thousand dollars a year or something. That also happens to be pretty close to the number that some analysts are saying that many households are having to spend about $2,000 more because of the increased price on goods because of the tariffs. So it’s this interesting shaping of the narrative trying to craft the truth, so to speak. I’d also be curious what your thoughts are, or if you want to talk about it. Recently, I think it was Laura Ingram did an interview with Donald Trump, and here he’s been so tough on immigration and he’s known for that crackdown, and yet he was talking about using H one visas for I think it was like 600,000 Chinese nationals or something like that. Could you talk to us a little bit about that? And again, we’re trying to figure out what is the real truth going on and how do we think about these things when we hear maybe a headline news, how can we filter through all of this to find the nuggets of real truth?
Sam Rohrer:
Isaac, it takes a great deal of work to filter through all that’s being said, and that’s being done. It really is. The president, in my opinion, talks a lot more than what actually is deliverable. Put it in that perspective. The narrative shaping thing is a major, major part of politics. And on one hand, even in that interview with Laura Ingraham, the president just did, the comment was, we have never, the economy has never been better. As an example, a statement like that, very, very bold prices have never been lower. And he cited something from Walmart that said that buying a Turkey dinner this year was going to cost less than last year. And then people respond and say, well, how can it be? That doesn’t seem possible, but makes a statement of that type, let it float, and then goes into the $2,000 tariff of something that can be done. But then you offset it with what we just talked about. So they say, wait a minute, there’s, there’s a part of the story not here.
Then walks into saying, we have to bring in 600,000 Chinese students. And Lauren Ingraham properly approached him and said, 600,000 Chinese students, what’s that for? Well, we need talented young people to do important jobs or whatever. And she said, well, don’t we have qualified people here? And his response was, no, we don’t. Well now that is now an issue that’s going across the country. People say, wait a minute, we don’t have Americans that are qualified. He said, do you expect to take somebody off the unemployment line and put them into a setting where they have to use technology? Well, wait a minute, that’s what the president said, and we can bring in these Chinese, he said, but then people are saying, wait a minute, but that’s taking away the jobs from people of which a million have lost their jobs already this year in 2025.
Companies from Amazon to others all over, laying people off. Well, what are these people doing for a job? Well, we’re going to bring in Chinese and we’re going to replace them. And the president said, Hey, that’s not going to be a problem because these Chinese will be used to train our people. And we say, wait a minute, what a minute? What? Train our people. Train our people to do what? And then when they have taught our people how to do these higher technological jobs, whatever they are, undefined, then they will go back to China. Well, there’s no way under the shining sun that will take place. You know what I mean? So these are the kinds of things that are happening, and it is confusing.
And at the end of the day, I think what’s taking, I don’t think, I mean what is taking place is that as companies are laying off people, due to a number of things, cost of the tariff is being involved in some of that. But the implementation of artificial intelligence is really major and companies are just laying off people right and left because, well, frankly, AI can do their job better for less. That’s what they’re saying. And this is what I believe is really happening. So you’ve got a major shift economically, you’ve got a major shift that’s taking place with ai, going to digitization, the surveillance aspect of it, the digital currency, which is just about to take place. These things are all factored together and people can’t figure out all the pieces. But what’s being said is one part of the story, but there’s another major part that’s actually unfolding. And I was glad for Laura. I don’t generally watch her, but I didn’t see this interview. She did quiz in a way that I haven’t seen somebody quiz the president for some time and did quite a good job, but did not get a straight answer. He actually got quite a perturbed at her for even asking the questions.
Isaac Crockett:
Well, Sam, I think that was a great lesson that you’re walking us through this looking for what is the underlying truth? What are we hearing and what are we seeing and what’s going on? And again, even your fresh perspective of being over in Israel and hearing what they’re scared of and what they’re going through and the lack of tourism and the different things they’re experiencing, just kind of getting the full perspective there. As we close, just any final words from you or maybe even some encouragement on using the Bible, because the Bible, there’s narratives in the Bible that shape our lives even today. They’re everlasting truths that remind us of everlasting life. And so just wonder if there’s any final comments from you, final thoughts before we, if there’s time, have you close us in prayer?
Sam Rohrer:
Well, Isaac, I would from that perspective, and I’m glad you went there because we do that in all cases, in this world in which we live, confusion is only increasing the narrative of the world. The communications is driving people not towards the truth of God’s word, but away from the truth of God’s word. And when anytime people move away from the truth of God’s word, they move into an area of deception. They move into an area where their feet are on sand, not on solid rock, and their thinking is moved from that, which can be linked to unchanging truth and completely unlinked from that, and like a ship then blowing in the wind. These are the very times when people are being faced with choices and one either runs toward the truth, the truth of God’s word, or one will run away from the truth of God’s word and into the arms of an emerging antichrist, global antichrist system, which the Bible tells us will take place.
And so there is no better place to go Isaac than to say that when we as truth, fears run to the word of God, analyze what is taking place through the lens of scripture. If we try to do in this program, look through the lens of scripture, a biblical worldview, when we do that, our feet will not be moved. And I think that that is the greatest hope that we can offer to those who might be listening to the program today, is that increasing days of confusion and deception and hypocrisy and all kinds of things will only increase. And it doesn’t make any difference the party to which one belongs. It doesn’t even make any difference to what church one says they belong to. They either are fixated on God’s word or they’re not.
Isaac Crockett:
Amen for that. And that’s where we want to be is we want to be living in God’s word guided by God’s word. And we want those of you who are listening to this to be thinking about, what does this mean for me? What does this mean for my family, for God’s will and my life? And so Sam, thank you so much for answering these questions we’ve asked. Thank you for the ministry that you’re doing, and thank you for listening to this program. And so if you’re listening today, thank you for that. Please pray for us. And until next time, I pray that you will stand in the gap for truth wherever you are.
Recent Comments