“Chairman of the Board of Peace?” – The UN Anoints

November 26, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Leo Hohmann

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 11/26/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Sam Rohrer:

Well, hello and welcome to What will be a very content packed Wednesday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, this day before Our Nation celebrates Thanksgiving Day. And I hope that you will be able to do that with your family and even in the midst of all that is happening there is, and we do have much for which to thank the Lord. So let’s make sure that we do that at the same time. There are many things about which we should pray and some of those we’ll talk about today, but as I mentioned in the program last week, I’ve asked Leo Hohmann, author, researcher, independent investigative journalist, well-known to all of you who are listening to join Me Again today. I view Leo as one of the most prolific and he is, and I’m going to say truthful writers on matters of greatest importance to all God-fearing Americans today.

There are so many things that are happening, it’s very difficult to stay up on it for anybody to stay up on it. We tried to cover the highlights on this program and we select and have on here some of the very finest guests that are available. Leah was one of them, and we’ll touch on some of those items that he’s written about and other things I want to talk with him about in our program as such as we do here, is not nearly long enough and it’s always a challenge. So that’s something for which we certainly ask you to pray. Now let’s get right into it because we have far more to go over than what we have time to do. I’m just going to go right to the heart of the title I’ve chosen for today’s program. It gives an insight into one area that we’re going to touch upon, and that is this chairman of the Board of Peace, chairman of the Board of Peace, the UN anoints, the un, meaning the United Nations. So you’ll get the idea. We’ll go into that, but with that, let me get right into it. Leo, thanks for being back with me on the program today.

Leo Hohmann:

Hello, Sam. Thanks for having me.

Sam Rohrer:

Leo, let me do this here. I’m going to rewrite some of what I was thinking about doing at this juncture, but it does seem that as I consider the headline news of the day, and I don’t know about you, but it seems like no matter if I go back two weeks or three weeks or a month or even the last two days, it seems like all of the issues, whether they be international or Middle East or here in America, it seems that they all seem to have one thing pretty much in common, and that is that our president, Donald Trump, seems to be right in the middle of it. Now. I know, and I know as well that he has engaged the media unlike any president that has ever been before us, maybe anybody, but because of the position, he’s able to dominate the news and it seems to me, with an effort to keep control over everything that is being and taking place now, I don’t want to make the man Donald Trump the focus of today’s program as much as the policies and the impacts and the changes that are being proposed and or made as a result of what is either he’s saying or coming out of the administration.

Now that being the case, so let’s take a 10,000 foot level, but let’s start. I’d just like to have your sense. You’ve been writing for a long time, you’ve been a journalist for a long time. You’ve observed similarities and distinctives of many previous US presidents, and now what’s taking place here in Trump 47. Here’s just a thought I had for you. I’d like to know when you compare and compare all of them, how do you compare contrast Donald Trump 47 or maybe 45, to the other presidents that preceded him, say, looking at the first 10 months of office, which is where we are here right now, how would you compare, compare contrast?

Leo Hohmann:

Well, really quite astonishing when you look at President Trump’s performance his first 11, almost 12 months now in office, he really stands out. I can’t even compare him to anyone else. Sam, certainly no president that I have lived to observe, which goes back to Ronald Reagan, actually Jimmy Carter. But I have the most vivid memories of Ronald Reagan and going forward, and I just don’t see anyone who has President Trump’s qualities, whether you like them or you don’t. I mean at his core, he’s a businessman and a deal maker, but he’s also a performer and an actor. If you look at his career, going back with of course the real estate development business and also his TV work with The Apprentice Show, and he really uses those skills every day on the job. He’s an actor, a performer, and he’s a business deal maker. I think if you view him in those two lights, you start to understand the man a little bit better.

Sometimes he says bizarre things just to gain attention. That’s the actor and the performer coming out causing chaos in many cases because he’s flipping back and forth and nobody knows which is the real Donald Trump. What is he really thinking? The berating of his political enemies and foreign leaders at times, that goes back to the show The Apprentice where he did that sort of thing. The level of hubris is just stunning. I mean, I remember thinking George W. Bush was a little arrogant for saying things like, I’m the decider, and President Reagan was the opposite. He was so gracious when confronted with a very in your face journalist like Helen Thomas or Sam Donaldson, he had a way of putting them in their place gently, but yet being respectful in the same time. We don’t see that that level of etiquette coming from President Trump. He literally will call people fake news to their face, you’re a horrible person. He said to an A, B, C news reporter last week, you’re a horrible person and you do a horrible job. You’re a fake journalist, blah, blah, blah, blah. I just never heard this sort of talk from a president before. Maybe in private they talk that way, but certainly not in public.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay, and I would agree with what you’re saying. It’s important though that we do compare contrast, and I think you did. I personally thought what you just framed there was very, very good. Don’t have much time left here, but if you were to look at these first 12 months or 10 months since the swearing in or however you may want to look at it, what would you say would be the one single thing that has from a change perspective, most profiles this administration, this Trump administration, 47,

Leo Hohmann:

I’m sorry, what was the last part of that question?

Sam Rohrer:

What change or impact that has been enacted in these first months of this administration? What would be that single biggest thing?

Leo Hohmann:

I would say the complete lack of respect for foreign leaders, the media and local and members of Congress. He literally just called Marjorie Taylor Greene, a traitor. I’ve never seen such a talk coming from a president before. Okay, we have differences in politics, but to call a member of your own party a traitor, I think is a level of disrespect that is just beyond the pale and that along with his economic tariffs, of course we’ve talked about that in past shows. There’s some good elements to that and I think there’s some merit to it, but then you could argue that maybe he’s overusing the tariffs and using them for, again, to punish his enemies as much as to improve the American economy.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay. Alright. Leo Hohmann is my guest here today. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. We’re going to go into the next segment. We, of the big issues that’s been really sucking the oxygen out of the room for weeks, still ongoing is this entire Epstein file vote. I’m going to talk to Leo about what he thinks about all this. Well, if you happen to just be joining us right now here on Stand In the Gap today, thanks for being on board. This is our Wednesday program and my special guest is Leo Hohmann. If you listen to the program regularly, he’s very familiar and if you have not signed up, which I would encourage you to do so, become a subscriber to his articles. He’s independent and that means that subscriptions from people like you are important for him just like it is for us. If you don’t support us, this program doesn’t stay on the air either, so I put it out there, but his website is Leo Hohmann.

There’s two Ns in that H-O-H-M-A-N-N, Leo Hohmann.com. Alright, Leo, let’s go into this. We’re picking some the highlights of the last couple of weeks you’ve written on this. It’s out there everywhere. I talked about it before you actually referred to it in the last segment when you talked about the president accusing Marjorie Green from Georgia as being a traitor. She was one of the strongest MAGA supporters, the president supporters early on, but she signed on to a resolution in the house of which two other Republicans did as well. Actually three Nancy Mace from South Carolina, Lauren Bobert and Thomas Massey from Kentucky, and together that permitted a discharge petition to be put into effect. It’s entitled the Epstein Files Transparency Act, to actually force it to the floor of the house for a vote after the President and after the Speaker of the House did everything that they could for two months to say, no way, no way.

Bring this thing out. We are not going to, there’s no issue all of that kind of business, but now it is out. It did pass the house by only one negative vote and by unanimous consent, meaning everybody in the Senate voted for it, although it was not a roll call vote, forcing the hand of the President. In my opinion, having been in office and seeing such things like this happen, probably one of the most significant political defeats. If it were in a house setting, in a state setting, it would be for a governor in the case to case the president, a remarkable defeat considering everything that took place. But now it is out and now it’s a question of what will the Department of Justice and the Trump administration do because they still don’t want to release the information. So here are my question, what are your thoughts behind the entire Epstein files, the Trump flip-flopping on it, the threats as you referred to our already, I just talked about it and there’s a lot happening right now. Just put this in perspective from your perspective.

Leo Hohmann:

Well, I think if you just look at the way the President has acted over this entire Epstein affair, it’s very telling. I’m not saying he’s implicated in any criminal acts whatsoever. Let me make that clear in these Epstein files, I have zero evidence of that, and I’m not even saying that. I have a hunch that that’s the case, but there’s something in there that he doesn’t want the American public to know about. And it may be something that his advisors told him after he took office for the second time because he did promise to reveal these Epstein files while he was running for office. But once he took office, there could have been somebody from the FBI, somebody from the State Department, somebody from the CIA or some other agency, maybe even the military who said, if you let these files become public, it will forever change the Americans citizens’ view of their government and possibly their view of some of our most important foreign allies. So very incriminating, very compromising, very, I hate to even use the word embarrassing because I think it would go way beyond that. And so he made this a dividing line.

Marjorie Taylor Greene votes with the president 90% of the time. And I think if you looked at all of the members of the Congress and stacked her up in comparison, that would be a pretty good rate even among Republicans, 90% of the time voting with the president. But because she lobbied and pushed hard for the release of these files, he’s kicked her to the curb and said some really vicious things about her, and he’s promised to put up a primary candidate against her. And so really forced her to resign because with that kind of money against a primary opponent, there’s no way she could win. And so there’s something in there, Sam, that the president and the government, I think it is not even maybe fair to put it all on the President. I think our government does not want us to know what is in those files because it would forever change America’s outlook and forever destroy most citizens’ trust in their government.

Sam Rohrer:

That’s very possible, Leo. And in fact, recent polls just came out this morning just looking at some of them right now. Well over 50%, it’s about 50%. Let’s put it this way. And this would include Republicans who were saying this issue has not yet been fulfilled. In other words, they’re very, very disappointed and believe that the promises made because there was such a big deal made about it prior to the election. And then all of a sudden then you go to saying, well, there’s nothing there, nothing here to see Pam Bondy saying, well, I’ve got everything on my desk and then all of a sudden, well, now there’s nothing there. And then the president saying it’s all a hoax, which takes it even further into saying there is zero there. That seems to me, Leo, to have just built the suspense in a way that makes the outcome even more critical.

And as you say, maybe it does bring it to the point where people say, you know what? I can’t trust anybody in government. That sense has been happening for a long time, but it does clearly appear to be perhaps a government wide. We know there’s people are involved that are international, that’s been a part of it, international. Some here, even Larry Summers, Harvard President Emeritus, and he happened to be a board member on open AI board, former treasury secretary. He already resigned his positions because his name is in here. So what you’re saying could be right. It goes much deeper than the president himself, but people are still viewing it as you’re covering for cronies and you’re covering it for bad boys who are rich and have influence, and that’s what the American people seem to be concerned about. And for the thoughts

Leo Hohmann:

Further, yes, and I think it may even go deeper than that and touch on the whole way that America’s foreign policy is conducted using leverage over foreign leaders who are engaged in disgusting acts with children. If Americans ever got the facts on that and exactly how children were used to gain leverage over foreign leaders to do certain things that are in line with the US government’s wishes. I mean it doesn’t get much more are sickening than that. And I think that’s why they just can’t let these files out,

Sam Rohrer:

Leo. And that brings up a point in that in these four Republicans who did sign onto that discharge petition, each of them had spent time with women who had been involved and had been abused in this process. They all stood there in Washington and with these women who came forward who had been abused, and they had on the record, they came forward and basically it was justice has not been done. Justice has not been done. I have been observing, and I find it’s kind of interesting that from a biblical perspective, one of the own purposes of government is to protect those who do well, punish those who do evil basically to enact justice. And it seems to me as I’ve been watching Mike Johnson, who is a Christian in his covering and attempting to do the president’s bidding, that he’s gotten himself in trouble with people because he has not been pursuing the pursuit of justice and covering for some of these other things. So this goes actually pretty deep across the board politically, morally, and all of that as well. Thoughts

Leo Hohmann:

Absolutely does. And yeah, Mike Johnson in my estimation has been nothing but a puppet, a lackey of the Washington establishment. I have seen no real backbone from him when it comes to truth and justice and exposing the truth no matter how painful or embarrassing it might be. I don’t see him as that type of person regardless of whatever his personal religious faith may be. I know what he claims, but people can claim anything. Not saying he isn’t a Christian, but I just don’t see any fruit. I see him as a political operative and exactly the type of person you would want in that job if you’re the Washington establishment. Let me put it that way.

Sam Rohrer:

And that’s very, very interesting. We don’t have time to get into it, but one of the observations that people have is that in this administration, we are witnessing an extraordinarily strong executive branch and what appears to be a complicit, not as the constitution says, an equal branch actually the legislative branch constitutionally is to be the strongest branch, the judicial, the weakest, the executive, the second. But it seems to be turned around and I think that’s one of the complaints I would have about Mike Johnson is that he’s allowing the legislative branch to bow to the executive branch, and that’s never a good thing. And certainly our founders didn’t view it that way.

Leo Hohmann:

I agree with you more, Sam, and it’s not just him. I would say the last at least three or four speakers of the house have been exactly the same way. This is a historic trend. We see the legislative branch seeding, ground seeding power more and more to the executive branch.

Sam Rohrer:

Yes, yes, indeed. And because of time, Leo, I’m going to have to jump off, ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. We’re going to move now into actually kind of the core of the title I’ve chosen for the program, chairman of the Board of Peace, the UN anoints. We’re going to ship to another issue, and that is an action of the United Nations just a couple of weeks ago. As we continue in the program today, we’ve started by talking, Leo and I are talking here today and just looking over the highlight events of the last couple of weeks, even bringing it up, and we’re going to conclude by talking about something that just happened on Monday a couple of days ago with an executive order that came out of the White House. But one of the things I noted at the beginning was that from my perspective of trying to put together programs and select titles and all that kind of thing, is that it seems like almost no matter what issue is that a highlight.

There’s one common element, and that seems to be the president, and I asked Leo about that, but I’m saying I’m not wanting to make the man the issue as much as the impacts and the things that are being done, but there’s no question from my opinion that unlike any president I have seen, this one seems to desire to have the first word and absolutely has to have the last word, and the result of that creates, well, if you can control the narrative and everything that happens, you can be in control. But to me, it’s almost like the biblical principle. Watch how many words you say because the one more speaks, the one more gets in trouble, and it almost seems like that principle we’re having worked out. I’m going to share this with you. You may not know this, but this leads into the United Nations making the last statement.

I’m going to talk to Leo about it, and he’s written an article recently on this, but the president’s desire to put him on the center stage in social media has been a goal. And as Leo you said, he has both an ability and a need perhaps to do that unlike any president. And you’ve gone all the way back to Jimmy Carter. Now, a lot of people might not know this, but in February of 2025, so this has been right after the inauguration, the President posted on truth social referring to himself. He said, this congestion pricing is dead Manhattan and all of New York is in all caps, saved long live the king. Now, that was interesting. You may not have seen that, but to emphasize that this desire to be on center stage was not a mistake. The White House posted on social media a graphic showing Donald Trump wearing a golden crown on a FAE Magazine cover sparking backlash from New York political leaders, as you can imagine.

Then in the summer’s NATO meeting, think about this, European leaders bowed to the President with nato, secretary General Mark Ruddy referring to Trump as daddy. Remember that refer to him as daddy. And that meeting was kind of amazing, but in that group, such serious phrases were also used, such as the most powerful leader in the world. Then recently, South Korea, president Lee Yang, young, gifted Trump, a golden crown. They gave him a golden crown. Japan’s prime minister nominated Trump to be Nobel Peace Prize Uzbekistan’s president called Trump president of the world. Now, isn’t that amazing? That hasn’t, I mean literally, truly no other president has seen this kind of thing. Now, on Monday of this past week, the UN Security Council acting on the so-called Gaza Peace proposal anointed Trump as president of the board, they appointed him Chairman of the Board of Peace. Again, that plan designed by Jared Kushner on behalf of his father-in-law. Now, Leo, you wrote an article last week entitled UN Security Council Unanimously adopts Trump’s Peace Plan Anointing US President, chairman of the Board of Peace. Would you share the highlights of this article, and I’m going to say the most significant aspects that you see in this because it’s interesting that the United Nations, that the president has regaled and castigated as being a worthless entity, they actually went to them with this proposal out of which then they came and they promoted appointed him. Chairman of the board seems kind of odd.

Leo Hohmann:

Yes. Isn’t it though very strange indeed that they would’ve gone to the United Nations. This is the world body that a lot of hardcore Trump supporters thought that President Trump would kick out of the United States once he got back in office, but instead, he’s going to the United Nations and asking for its blessing of his Israel Hamas peace plan in Gaza. And he, by golly, got it, he didn’t only get it, he achieved it with a 13 to zero unanimous vote. Even Russia and China elected to abstain. They could have vetoed it. These two countries, Russia, China, have veto power on the UN Security Council, but instead they abstained. And so it ended up with a 13 to zero vote. So that tells you even President Trump’s biggest, most powerful enemies, Russia and China were afraid to go against him on this measure pertaining to Israel.

And so I think it bears watching because we’re talking about a man of peace. He described himself as the peace president, and yet there are all these ironies. He renamed the Department of Defense, the Department of War. He’s threatening war against Venezuela. He’s attacked Iran. I think he will attack Iran again eventually because they did not obliterate Iran’s nuclear capabilities as President Trump claimed. That’s been pretty much widespread even in the mainstream media. Now, even in the Israeli media, they’re admitting that that attack on the Iranian nuclear facilities was mostly successful, but not totally. And so there’ll be a round two in that war. He’s also tried, but so far failed to end the Russia, Ukraine war, which I think could blow up into a bigger expanded war, possibly World War iii. And so there’s all these ironies out there and contrasting statements between war and peace. It’s really interesting with President Trump, we really 11 months in, are yet to know is he really the President or the man of peace or is he going to be the man of war?

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, and that is interesting. Okay, let’s go. What other one aspect? Just recently the president had the king of Saudi Arabia, prince Ben Solomon, effectively the king there at the White House. And out of that came a number of things, any comments on that? Because he is also a part of what the peace deal would be. But this whole peace deal establishes stronger relationships with the enemies of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, and others that would ultimately invite these guys down in there to Israel in Gaza as Guardians of the Peace, which does not really exist, but that has a lot of Israelis really up in mind saying, what in the world’s going on? Any comments on that before we move to this executive order?

Leo Hohmann:

Yeah, I don’t think it should be a big surprise that President Trump has been heavily courting Saudi Arabia. His family has enormous business ties with the Saudis building hotels in Saudi Arabia, plans to build them, and also in Qatar, the UAE. He has a lot of business ties, not just to himself personally, but the rest of his family members as well. So he’s courting them, he likes them, he feels comfortable with them and he’s making deals with them. Now, will that end up the bane of Israel’s existence and sort of backfire on Israel, sell out Israel? That remains to be seen, but it is certainly something we need to watch. Now, president Trump also solidified a deal to set very sophisticated F 35 fighter jets to Saudi Arabia, and that’s something that’s raised some eyebrows in the region as well. Are we making Saudi Arabia too powerful in the Middle East region? That’s the question that I think Israel and a lot of other geopolitical strategists will be looking at in the months and years to come.

Sam Rohrer:

Yeah, and I look at that, Leo and I cannot, cannot overlook, and again, this is something to me that should have had tremendous congressional opposition and I hardly hear a peep, but that isn’t regard to Cutter. Cutter gave that plane to the President for which I think there’s a hundred million dollars I heard the other day that’s being required to retrofit that plane for the use of the President. Okay, that’s a big deal. Taking a gift from a foreign nation, and Qatar was the funder of Hamas. They have been enemies of Israel, enemies of the West all along, and yet that happened. And then here’s the part that has been overlooked, and I mean it’s still in existence. The president by an executive order entered into a defense agreement that reads like a treaty, a defense agreement with Cutter, so that if anybody, any nation does anything to Cutter on there to violate their space or any regard, the United States is obligated by treaty, not by executive order to come to their defense. What are the thing? Treaties have to go through the Senate, but the President attempted to do this by executive order. That’s another part. So you’ve got Qatar with a defense agreement, you’ve got Saudi Arabia, all of them putting billions of dollars into whatever’s going on. It seems to me that it’s all about money, which often things are. But any thoughts on that before we go out of this segment?

Leo Hohmann:

It certainly is all about money. As usual, if you follow the money, you’ll find that just according to Forbes Magazine, the President’s family has done $55 million in deals with the Saudis alone. That doesn’t include the UAE or Cutter and from any other sources say that’s just the tip of the iceberg, that there’s many other deals that are either have been consummated or are in the works. And so it’s difficult for this president to separate his role as head of the family business from that of the chief commander in Chief and Chief Diplomat in the United States government. There’s a line that’s getting more blurry by the day, and I think that is something that’s very concerning and should concern every American, but yet nobody in MAGA wants to talk about

Sam Rohrer:

It. Absolutely. I agree with you. Ladies and gentlemen. Stay with us. We come back, we’re going to get into a executive order just signed on Monday. You got to hear this. Well, as we go into our final segment, as I said, the content here today on these issues, there’s far too much to get into an hour, so I’ve been trying to abbreviate and we’re just hitting a few of the highlights. Leo, one of the things I’ve been saying, and we highlighted earlier an event that occurred and then another executive order the 24th of November, just two days before now is one I want to talk with you about. It’s called Launching the Genesis mission. It’s a very interesting title, launching the Genesis mission, but let me say this preparatory into it, it does tie into it ladies and gentlemen, artificial intelligence, but I also want to just from my perspective, mention this because we’ve talked about it many times in the program.

The day after President Trump was inaugurated, the day after the very first day, there was a meeting of billionaires in his office, three of them, it was all about AI and it was the president’s commitment to $500 billion from somehow somewhere to build databases across the country. These are energy facilities, one that’s happening in our state right here. You all remember the name Three Mile Island, TMI. Years ago there was a problem there, three reactors. One of them went was a problem. They kind of shut it down, but yeah, Bill Gates bought that a couple of years ago, and that’s going to be opening up soon at generating power for what? An AI database. Alright. Now, these databases are all across the country. It’s collecting information, it’s generating their gigantic power suckers, and at this juncture, they’re the reasons why almost everybody’s energy electric bills across the country have gone up so much in 2025, but the president’s commitment to AI databases and the billionaires behind them started then, but it’s continued in meeting after meeting, even including the one with Prince Ben Salman from Saudi Arabia we just talked about in the last segment.

There was a dinner after that at which some of these billionaires and others were at because part of the discussion with Saudi Arabia is that they want to become an AI development center there in the Middle East, but they’re also theoretically going to be putting money into developing it here. So this is some of the deals that’s behind it, but AI is a big deal. I’m going to stop there, Leo, because you wrote an article on this move into Digital ID and all that’s associated with ai and then now we have this launching the Genesis mission executive order that the president has just signed on Monday. Lump these together, commonalities, lay it out with what you can say at this point about what you know.

Leo Hohmann:

Yeah, they call it the Genesis mission, which I think is the choice of biblical terminology there. I don’t think is any coincidence, but there’s so much here, Sam. We could literally do a whole show on it, but you look at how it was released during a holiday week, I think it’s going to continue to fly the radar. Most people are not going to take any notice of this executive order. It was authored by Michael K CIOs who wrote the American AI Action Plan for President Trump back, I think it was in July, and a ghost writer we believe was also involved was David Sacks. He’s special advisor to the president on AI and crypto and has no actual legitimate authority because special advisors, their authority expires after 130 days and he’s well after that. But these are two arch technocrats, David Sacks and Michael kras.

The overarching idea behind this executive order is to accelerate AI research and expansion into every nook and cranny of our society, both at the macro and micro level and do it Sam, at warp speed. Just like we saw the President’s vaccine policy in its first term, the executive order literally claims ownership of all data from all potential sources, including human beings, our own personal data. They say they can scoop that up from federal agencies, private corporations, healthcare systems, NGOs. There’s literally nothing they consider off limits to themselves when it comes to vacuuming up our data. Data is the fuel, the oil of the technocratic beast system that this administration is building. AI is the engine, and that’s where the data centers come in that you spoke of and the energy. They’re going to be commandeering all of the energy possible to fuel these data centers that will be vacuuming up the data and then plugging that data into centralized government systems to run various scenarios.

They’ll be able to predict, they think crime predict world events, predict actions of foreign countries and leaders predict. I would submit the actions of individual Americans as well, and that’s where the whole social credit scoring system will come in. The executive order mentions the word accelerate or acceleration six times. This is part of the Dark Enlightenment movement that we’ve been studying. They predict these dark enlightenment folks, a wages crash and a digital reset of everything so much for MAGA wages crash. That’s not going to help very many Americans, but then they’ll be able to crash the dollar and bring in their new digital money system. That’s why that’s important. They’re saying this is going to be the equivalent of the Apollo project or the Manhattan project. Patrick Wood, who’s an expert on Technocracy read through it and he wrote, I’m going to quote him here. Trump is nationalizing the entire AI industry or the technocrats are nationalizing the federal government.

I think it’s the latter, so it’s very fascistic in its nature where you’ve got the government and the corporations combining their resources and it’s hard to see where the government ends and the corporate role begins. They’re all going to be merged into one throw in the universities, academia, and you’ve really got a powerhouse of AI powered surveillance state going on here. The makings of it, at least, I think it’ll be a little while before it’s implemented, but maybe not as long as we think. They talk about dominance in this executive order, energy dominance, technology, dominance, but the question is dominance of who and by who. Those questions aren’t really

Sam Rohrer:

Answered. I think that’s an excellent overview. Leo and I have two comments to add to what you’re saying, and part of it’s the purpose. I’m going to read from the order I’m looking at it right now, says, this order launches the Genesis mission as a dedicated, coordinated national effort to unleash. Interesting. A new age of AI accelerated innovation and discovery that can solve, here’s the keyword, can solve the most challenging problems of this century, Leo. It’s the concept that those and all of those wrapped up in it, all of them that are here, the president and all of the behind it, they are looking to AI as to being the not God. I mean, they’re not looking to God. This is what bothers me. It’s not looking to God. We’re looking to the God of AI to solve the challenging problems of this century and this executive order. I’m looking at it, it does merge private business with government, but it puts government in the position of bankrolling or a backstop financially for this non-governmental entity, which as you said, really becomes the tail that wags the dog. It really becomes this entity that sits outside that really runs government. We don’t have much time left dealing about 20 seconds worth of final comment before we close the program.

Leo Hohmann:

Yeah, I do see this as a huge tower of Babel moment. I really do for the whole ai. I think at some point AI stops being just a technology and it becomes a religion and it’s in the process of making that transformation. I agree.

Sam Rohrer:

Yep. Alright, Leo, thank you so much for the work that you do, ladies and gentlemen, his website, Leo Hohmann, two ends on Hohmann.com. He also has leo Hohmann substack.com and anyways, thank you for being on Leo for the work that you do. I pray that you and your family have a great Thanksgiving tomorrow and ladies and gentlemen, if you’re traveling, be safe when you meet together. Thank God for what he has done for all of us, and also pray for his leading, for all of us wisdom to be given. It’s greatly needed in these days in which we live.