The Cast of Christmas: Part II

December 23, 2025

Host: Dr. Jamie Mitchell

Guest(s): Pastor Carl Broggi, Hon. Sam Rohrer, Dr. Jim Ayers

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 12/23/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Jamie Mitchell:

Well, welcome friends to part two of our special Christmas edition. And this year our theme is the Cast of Christmas. We’re looking at the different individuals who make up the great Christmas story with the help of our fellow hosts and a lot of our former guests and present guests. This program has really had a wonderful, wonderful time looking at the different people of Christmas. And we’re thrilled to have a regular guest who speaks on Israel and prophecy on a regular basis. Dr. Carl Broggi. Carl, Merry Christmas. Welcome to our Christmas program. And it should be no surprise that we’ve asked you to share about the magi, those wise men from the east who traveled to find and acknowledge the prophesied king of the Jews. Carl, welcome again. Tell us about the Magi. Where did they come from? And how do they fit into the Christmas narrative?

Carl Broggi:

Well, Jamie, they play a major role. Of course, the record is found in Matthew two. Now, after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, the days of Herod the King Magi, Magoy, the Greek text says. I know some English translations say wise men because Magoy or Magi, which is what God inspired was an unfamiliar word. And so Tyndall and Geneva and later King James went with a wise man. But I think it’s a good term because it’s interpretive of who they are. These guys are not pagans. Pastors who make them pagans and into astrology is just absolute nonsense. They’ve not read the text very well. And these are men who the Bible says came to worship him. They came from the east. Of course, north, south, east, and west, according to the scripture, is measured from Jerusalem. I take it that they came from Babylon and for several reasons.

They’re from the East. And these were men who were very wise in the scriptures. And of course, centuries before, there was one named Daniel who by his act was able to save all the wise men, all the Magoy as it’s rendered in the Septuagint from death. And of course, I think these are probably downline from them. I wouldn’t start a denomination on it, but I think it’s reasonable to say. That means they traveled about 550 miles from modern day Iraq. And when they come, they come at a right time. Daniel nine prophesied the timeframe of which the Messiah would come. And Daniel, who wrote the book of Daniel, no doubt taught it to the men of his day. And they knew this is the timeframe in which Messiah would come. And so when they see a star, they were familiar with a prophecy. Again, men wise in the scripture because Numbers 24 speaks of a star that will come forth from Jacob and a scepter that will rise from Israel.

And so these men are coming with a sense of expectation. And of course, when they arrive, they’re led by a star, a supernatural star. There’s a lot of planetarians at this time of year that try to come up with some naturalistic explanation for the star, but this star would shine, it would stop, it would move. It was supernatural in nature like the Shekinah that led the children of Israel through the desert. And when they ultimately arrive, they don’t arrive in a manger scene with shepherds. They come months later. They’re in a house at this point. There’s no shepherds there. Joseph isn’t even present, according to the scripture. Mary is there. And of course, what is happening is very upsetting to Herod. Herod is threatened by any kind of a king who would come to represent the Jews. And so wanting to ensure that this baby is going to be slaughtered, he has every baby to and under murdered.

Jesus is probably about six months old based on the timeframe of what we find in scripture. Anyway, they come and these are men who come with worship. They’re not ignorant men. They recognize that the one that they are coming to worship is worthy of worship. Now listen to worship anyone that God alone is absolute blasphemy. And yet that’s what these men do. And the quality and character of their worship, Jamie, is seen by what they bring. They bring gold, frankincense, and myrrh. And that’s very, very significant. Gold is a symbol of a king. It always has been, whether it’s King Todd or King Henry II or King Jesus. And God is no ordinary king. This is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, a title ascribed to both the Father and to the Son. And so they rightly worship him with gold. And it’s not by accident when you read the character of the tabernacle and later the temple in Exodus 25 and many chapters that follow.

It’s covered in gold because God is the king of kings and Lord of Lords and God had prophesied in places like Psalm two that he will install his king. And so when Jesus comes, a chow will be born and his name will be called Mighty God. We saw that aspect of it, but the increase of his government seeing no and that’s in reference to the second coming. Micah, the prophet who predicted he would be born in Bethlehem, not Jerusalem, like the book of Mormon says, but in Bethlehem, he is to be ruler over all of Israel. So they affirm that he is a king. They affirm that he is God, that he is sinless because they offer pure frankincense. And when you read passages like Leviticus 20, Leviticus chapter two and other places, it’s very clear that there’s incense and there’s frankincense. And frankincense was only to be used in the worship of God.

You couldn’t even use it as a personal perfume. And so they are affirming with this word Labana in Hebrew that he is indeed the sinless son of God. But they also worship him as the savior. And so they bring gold frankincense and myrrh. To bring myrrh to a baby, well, that’s like bringing embalming fluid to a baby shower. It just doesn’t seem to make sense, but it made total sense for them because they recognized when the Messiah would come, he would then be cut off. He would then be crucified. And Murr, of course, is a symbol of death. They offered it to Jesus on the cross. He refused it because he wanted to take the full dose of the judgment of God. But then when his body was removed, the Bible teaches that Joseph of Arimathea Nicodemus made a mixture of myrrh and aloes a hundred pounds in weight.

So the very gifts that they gave were symbolic of who he is. He’s the king of kings. He’s the sinless sovereign God Almighty. And indeed, he is the one who would hang on a tree. Christ Jesus, the Bible says, came into the world to save sinners. And indeed, these men understood that, that he would bear our sin in his body on the tree. So that’s who these wise men are. That’s who these Magoy, these Magi are. They’re not pagans. These are men who are wise in the scriptures, astute to what is happening prophetically, and that’s why they come to see the Lord Jesus.

Jamie Mitchell:

Wow. Carl, you did not disappoint us. What a way to start part two. And what a beautiful picture to think. Daniel planted in their heart that there would be a Messiah. And as wise men, they sought to find this one. Well, they were confronted by a man named Herod. And when we continue, our own Sam War is going to join me and we’re going to investigate the villain of Christmas. God bless you, Carl. Thank you. Folks, don’t go anywhere as we continue the cast of Christmas here and stand in the gap today. Well, welcome back again. Thanks for being part of this very special Christmas program. The cast of Christmas. We’re looking at the characters, Joseph, Mary, the Angels, Shepherds. Carl Broggi just unlocked the mystery of the magi. And joining with us is our own Sam Rohrer. And Sam, we’ve assigned you Herod. I’m not sure how you got Herod.

He’s not the most lovable character, but he is very important in this story of Christmas in many ways. So welcome, Sam. And who is Herod and what do we need to know about him?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, Jamie, it’s a great emphasis that we’re doing in this program in the week before in all the characters because they all play a pivotal role. And I’m going to say they’re all there, including Herod by God’s design. Now here’s a few things about it here. A lot of people don’t know much about this individual, although he was quite famous. He was the civil authority of the day. He played obviously a very critical role in Jesus’ early days. But here’s just a couple things. One, the description of Herod started as a personal name, but it became a title. This Herod was also known as Herod, The Great. He was a client king of Judea being appointed by the Roman Senate in 40 BC. So he was there in an existence before Christ was born. He was the only one in his family to hold this title of King.

He was the king of Judea. He had several qualities that made him, well, a favorite of Rome because he was a vassal of Rome. One, he had proven his loyalty in supporting Julius Caesar. His father had supported Julius Caesar during the Roman Civil Wars, and so he had earned some favor. He was militarily competent, so he was proven in that area. He was also politically savvy and had the ability to balance Roman interest with the Jewish traditions. And I’ll explain that in just a minute why that was, but he was also brilliant economically and architecturally. In fact, he was known for his massive building projects, including the expansion of the second temple in Jerusalem. He did so many major changes to that second temple, which was ultimately destroyed in 70 AD, but it became a wonder of the world. It was an amazing thing, but he built fortresses also like Masada and cities like Caesarea Marittima.

So if people go to Israel, they will go to those places sometimes.

Here’s another thing. His father, interesting, he was politically unique, but his father was of Edomite heritage on his father’s side. His mother was from a different area, but his father was Antipater of Edom, forcibly converted to Judaism about a hundred years before. So Herod was considered Jewish by religion, but not by blood. He publicly observed Jewish customs, avoided pork, observed the temple rules, and part of the reason for rebuilding the temple was to earn favor with the Jews, but Herod was paranoid and very insecure. According to Josephus, the historian, Herod killed his one wife, Mary Omni, because he suspected her plotting against him. He killed his sons Alexander and Obulus for alleged treason. He killed his eldest son, Antipater, just days before Herod’s death, fearing a coup. And he was so insecure. I thought this was interesting. He was so insecure that a saying developed, “It is better to be Herod’s pig than his son.” And that was because it was particularly meaningful since Herod observed Jewish dietary laws, he wouldn’t have killed a pig, but he didn’t mind killing his own sons.

So he was a most interesting character.

Jamie Mitchell:

Wow. Sam, with that sense of envy and bitterness, I’m reminded what James three says, “Where there is selfish ambition and bitter jealousy, there is all disorder and all sorts of evil.” And in the Christmas story, we know that he hears through the Magi that the king of the Jews has been born. And so what is his response? What does he do in the Christmas story that is just horrific?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, he obviously, later we know, orders the killing of the unborn males, but his understanding of how paranoid he was and he killing his own family members, you can say, “All right, I understand that. ” But you know what? It’s something interesting to me, Jamie, because there’s really nothing about the life of Herod that I think is a good thing. I think I couldn’t find anything good about him. But what I did walk away, and I walk away encouraged in regard to the role that Herod played, is that every person from Mary to Joseph to Herod, to the Magi, to the shepherds, were all arranged by God’s design. He had them for a reason, including Herod. And it makes me focus on the power of God, that the will of God, God’s promised to bring his son forward and to against all odds.

There are other attempts to kill and stop God’s plan and prevent the coming of Jesus Christ, but they weren’t successful evil either. And as I look at Herod, I think of there it is, Satan working through Herod to try to subvert God’s plan to prevent the coming of the Son of God, Messiah. And even the most powerful figure who did not care about one iota about life could not stop God’s plan. And to me, that is encouragement. And just as no one could stop Christ first coming, no one is going to stop his second coming.

Jamie Mitchell:

You know, Sam, last week, Dave Christensen did a magnificent job on the angels. And I have to tell you, after 40 years of preaching on Christmas and all of that, something struck me. And it was this, he said that since the beginning of time, there has been this cosmic war of good and evil and that Bethlehem became a battlefield of Satan against God and that when the angels showed up, it was a victory chant. But even in the story of Herod, we see spiritual warfare, we see Satan’s, as you just mentioned, his unrelenting to try to thwart the plan of God, but God’s plan will not bend or bow to the evil one. And I guess, Sam, this Christmas, maybe that’s what we could take away with all the turmoil in the world. And I mean, we deal with so much of it on this program as we analyze the news and all of that.

And it could be pretty depressing this Christmas, couldn’t it, as we look at the world? But then we look at how God dealt with Herod, and that should be a sense of comfort to us, shouldn’t it?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, absolutely. And I think that’s a great way to kind of conclude it in this focus as we walk through, that regardless of what we see around us, if we know the word of God and we know the plan of God, which he has given us in his word, we should look about and see all that God has said will come to pass and be encouraged that in his first coming, how many hundreds of prophecies were fulfilled to a T. Only God can do this. And Jesus Christ, the very son of God came and now we can look back to that event. No one could stop it, including the deviling himself, and that included Herod and no one will prevent that which is yet to come. That’s encouraging.

Jamie Mitchell:

You know, Sam, we got about a minute left, but the other thing too, that the Herod part of the story is God giving a warning to Joseph to take Mary and Jesus and flee. God is always warning us about impending evil and that’s why we need to be close with the Lord and really be walking in his spirit so that we can hear and sense and be led by his promptings because God is still warning his people, isn’t he, Sam?

Sam Rohrer:

Well, he absolutely is. And a matter of fact, so much of scripture is warning all the way from the very beginning. Actually in Genesis 3:15, when God warned the devil himself and said, when he forecasted and said basically what was going to be the coming of Christ, and even the death of Christ on the cross was all a part of there in Genesis 3:15, that was a warning to the devil. Something is going to … You are going to pay for that which you have done, but that reminds us of the very necessity of why God so loved the earth of the world that he sent his only begotten son because that which sin brought into this world death, an inability to have a relationship with God above was an impossibility. And God warned, if you stay on this track, you will never experience life.

You will never come back to me. However, I have a plan, and that is plan of redemption, and that plan is going to cost me a great deal. Jesus Christ became the one who … Well, you talk about sacrifice, we cannot imagine it, but because he did that, out of the blackest of darkness comes the most brilliant of late, and that is faith through Jesus Christ. And that is, I mean, that is the story and what is … It’s not a story that is an account that is real. There’s nothing like it.

Jamie Mitchell:

Amen. Amen. Look, friends, take away from our Christmas story, the encouraging things about Joseph and Mary, the Angel Shepherds, even the magi, but even in the life of Herod, God’s purposes, his plans will never be derailed. Satan may try, but he will always fail. When we return, the character we know the least about, but don’t go anywhere. There’s more lessons to be learned from the characters of Christmas here at Stand in the Gap today. Welcome back, friends. This next character of Christmas has a significant personal meaning to me. Every year growing up in our church back in New York, we had a pageant where we would enact the Christmas story. For years, I wanted to be Joseph for at least one of the magi. But for three years running, Mrs. Reaganes, I still remember her name, made me the innkeeper. And I had one line.

I stood in the right hand side of the stage with a brooming hand when Mary and Joseph came up and I said to them, “I’m sorry, I have no room, but I do have a stable you can use.” Well, I still wake up reciting that, but the Innkeeper is really a part of this story and Dr. Jim Ayers, Professor Emeritus from Lancaster Bible College and Imagine Tours has been saddled with the task of sharing about the least known character, the Innkeeper. Jim, Merry Christmas, welcome to our program again. What insights can you share to help us understand who the innkeeper might have been?

Jim Ayers:

Well, thanks for the invitation to hopefully shed a little bit of light on the innkeeper as we refer to him. Actually, we don’t have a clue what the individual’s name was, and I hate to burst the bubble, but really it’s doubtful if he had an in. Now, there may have been an in, a forerunner to a Motel six or a Super eight. There may have been an in Bethlehem, but the interesting thing that might really shed the most light on the innkeeper is the fact that the place where Joseph and Mary would have gone first would have been a family member and the family members would have had, in most cases, a spare room, as we would refer to it today, an upper room. In fact, the word that is used to describe this no room in the inn is the exact same word that was used in Luke 22:11 when it described to the place where Jesus would host the last supper.

Now, it really was just a spare room, an extra room in the house, which would accommodate guests and travelers. And we know that that was really an important thing for first century Jewish hospitality and architecture, because this was an upper room typically, but it was full because of the context of what we see in Luke chapter two verses one to five. Everyone who was a descendant of David was making their way to Bethlehem because of this sentence, which was required, but Mary and Joseph, by the time they got there, there just was no more room in that upper room. So we referred to him as the innkeeper, but it was probably a family member who goes unnamed or unidentified in the scriptures.

Jamie Mitchell:

And Jim, you have taken myriads of trips to Israel. You’ve been to Bethlehem many, many times. Bethlehem, the city of David, the House of Bread, it was known for sheep herding and those kinds of things, but like you mentioned, I mean, they would have been overrun in this time because of the decree that Caesar had made for them all to register where their ancestors had come from. And so the likelihood is they were full, the house was full, or maybe there were other relatives who had taken their home. So where did the family member, or as we will call them, the innkeeper, where did they direct Mary and Joseph to go that would have been part of their home?

Jim Ayers:

Well, a little bit of a quick lesson in geography helps us to understand what could well have been the place. After 21 trips to Israel and the West Bank and to Bethlehem and the church and the nativity, the shepherd’s fields and so on, you learn very quickly that there were caves everywhere. Many of those caves were used by shepherds who were caring for the flocks and they would use it as a place of protection. But the other thing that was very common in that day, when people would build a house, they would often use a cave at the ground level for which they would store or keep or protect their livestock. And the likelihood of this family member who would have their livestock in what we would look at today as the basement, it was a very functional thing and very common for there to be a storage place there where livestock could be protected.

And it was also the place where much of the cooking was done and interestingly, the next floor up, which was the residents of the people who lived there, that helped to keep the house warm. So it’s very possible, and we can’t say with definite clarity, but it’s very possible that their house would have been built over top of one of these caves. That was very, very common in first century architecture. Now, if that wasn’t the case, then their house likely would have been located very near another cave where they would still have a place where they could keep the livestock. And so it fits perfectly with the explanation of the Christian narrative that we find in Luke two, that the place where Jesus was born would have been with livestock in a cave, either in the basement of the house, which was built over top or adjacent to the house, the cave being a place to protect the livestock and also a place where cooking could be done.

It certainly fits again with the narrative of Jesus then after he was born, being placed in a manger. A manger was a stone feeding trough. And for those who have had the opportunity to go to Bethlehem, we go to the church of the nativity and we go down into a cave, what they refer to as the grotto, and in that cave is a manger, but it’s a stone feeding trough, which was used for the livestock.

Jamie Mitchell:

You know, Jim, in some ways, we look at the innkeeper and we say to ourselves, “Gee, Wiz, allowing a girl who’s just about to give birth to a baby and shuffle her off to a cave.” But in many respects, it was all that was left and at least he gave Joseph and Mary someplace to set up a bed and a place where Mary could bring forth the baby Jesus. Jim, as you heard in my opening, I was an innkeeper for a number of years and I heard a story years later of a little boy at a Christmas pageant who changed the words when asked, “Do you have a room?” He said, “No, I have no room left, but you can have mine if you want. ” And you could imagine the shock that that director would have had on their face, but in all serious Jim, the innkeeper does teach us much as we approach Christmas and maybe some lessons that we can learn from his life that we could make application to our own life.

What might some of those lessons be?

Jim Ayers:

Well, I think if we would hold the view that it was a family member, and I think that that is probably the case that makes the most cultural sense and common sense. Here was a family member who was looking out for others in his family. Family. So number one. Number two, he didn’t turn them away. He did whatever he could do under the circumstances. He had to resort to creativity. But the other thing that really I guess speaks to me was that he provided a place of privacy for Joseph and Mary and were not aware that there were any other individuals there, but a place for Joseph and Mary to see their son born and cared for. And providing a place of privacy for that tender moment when they became parents. Joseph a stepfather, but nonetheless, he loved Jesus just as much as any other father would or could.

Jamie Mitchell:

Jim, you have really wet our appetite for going to the Holy Land. Take just 30 seconds. How do people find out about Imagine Tours and going with you to see some of these sites? How can they find out about that?

Jim Ayers:

Well, the easiest thing, Jamie, is to people to just log onto my website. It’s simply jamesayers.org. That’s James Ayers, A- Y-E-R-S.org. The website is called Church Works, and they’re referred to as Imagine Pilgrimage Tours. And people can check there and just go to that website and see when tours are operating. And we don’t just go to Israel, we go to many of the other holy land.

Sam Rohrer:

Well, as we enter into our final segment here of this program, and hopefully you’ve been with us this entire time today. This program is actually part one, part two. The previous part, the first part was last week, but focusing on the individuals that are a part of the Christmas story. And we’re calling this the Cast of Christmas, because it’s really that way. And Jamie’s been leading this program. And Jamie, we’re shifting gears here now a little bit because I want to take this opportunity to allow you to go into some further detail and talk about the main character of this story, and that is Jesus Christ himself. So let’s just go here to begin with because there’s far too much to say. The word of God itself is … Well, we’re told in scripture that if everything was recorded that Jesus did, the books of the entire world wouldn’t be enough to handle them.

So we’ll have to condense this, but let me ask you this. What is it from your perspective, as we’ve considered this whole cast of Christmas we’ve been walking through, that you would like our listeners to be able to see or to know this Christmas when it comes to who Jesus really is and why it is in fact worthy of us making a big deal about his birth. Well,

Jamie Mitchell:

You know, Sam, we really shouldn’t take the life of Jesus or the story of Jesus and start it at Christmas. We really need to go all the way back in the Old Testament and really all the way back to Genesis. In the creation account when mankind is created by God, he says this. He says, “I’ve created you in our image.” And the indication there is the first that we see of a triune God. And we know that Jesus Christ, it’s the second person of the Trinity. He is eternal. He’s eternal God. And that is what is so stunning that we say that God put on flesh. But then Sam, you alluded to it in your segment that we hear of Jesus and we really hear the announcement of Christmas when sin entered into the world because when Satan deceives, tricks Adam, he sins, God speaking to Satan says, “Because of what you have done, there will be one scent to crush your head and really reverse the curse of sin.” And what he was declaring is that Jesus, the Messiah, the Savior, would come some point.

Sam, 300 times in the Old Testament, there are prophecies that are pointing us to the Messiah, that he would come from God. He would redeem mankind from sin. He would bring that relationship, restore that relationship. And so all throughout the Old Testament, God was dropping popcorn along the way so that they would be led to Bethlehem. Isaiah in Isaiah 7:14 says, “Therefore, the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son and call his name Emmanuel. God with us.” And again, Isaiah nine says, “For unto us a child is born, a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulders. His name shall be called wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting Father, prince of peace, and of the increase of his government and of peace, there will be no end on the throne of David and over his kingdom to establish it and uphold it with justice and righteousness from this time forth and forevermore and the zeal of the Lord will be his wholesale.” So God was giving us glimpses of who this Messiah, who this Jesus would be, who this Christ would be.

And all of Israel knew. They knew that his coming would someday come. And really during the 400 years of silence, Sam, after the disobedience of Israel and they’ve kind of walked away from God, they started to have messianic hopes again. But if you really want to understand who Jesus is, we just have to go to what the angels told the shepherds. “Fear not for behold, I will bring you good news of great joy to all people, Sam, all people, not just to Israel, not just to the Jews, but for all people, unto you this day is born in the city of David, a savior who is Christ, the Lord. Sam, he’s our savior. He’s the prophesied Messiah, the Christ and if we give our lives to this baby of Christmas who became a man and walked on this earth and died on the cross, he will become the Lord of our life, Master Adani, mighty God.

And so Sam, if you believe that he is the Messiah, he is Savior, then you make him your Lord, he will change your life. And although he came as a baby lying in a manger, he was all of that, yet he put on flesh to be with us. That is who Jesus is, and that’s why we celebrate him.

Sam Rohrer:

And Jamie, and again, you could have quoted so many scriptures from the Old Testament. The Jews who were alive when Jesus came were anticipating some of those verses where the government would be upon his shoulder and that his kingdom would come and his kingdom is coming, Jamie. In the millennial kingdom, he will reign. He came first as a baby. Now he’s going to come back again. What’s the one thing in your mind, one insight that Christ at Christmas speaks to you most strongly about Jamie?

Jamie Mitchell:

Sam, each of these Sundays leading up to Christmas, we have been lighting a candle being reminded of his first advent. And his first coming was a glorious one, but more important is his second coming. And you see the first time he entered this world as a vulnerable, dependent, little baby who although he was the one who created the earth and everything at it, he humbled himself. He put on flesh, he put on human limitations to serve us, to redeem us. But Sam, he will come again. And this second advent of Jesus Christ, the scriptures tell us that the next times he’s not coming in humiliation, but he is coming in exaltation. He will not be a vulnerable baby, but this time he will wield a sword of a warrior, a conquering king, as you just mentioned. The next time his entrance will not be in some secluded cave in a shepherd’s town, but the skies will rent open and he will descend upon us in glory and power and majesty and might.

And I love the beauty of Christmas, but it reminds me and it excites me, Sam, of his second coming, and that is what makes Christmas even more special.

Sam Rohrer:

And Jamie, I just could second so strongly what you were saying. Ladies and gentlemen, I hope that you also are able to do that. But you know as scripture tells us, if we do not in our lifetime fall on our knees in repentance for our sins and acknowledgement of Christ’s death on the cross, which had to happen when he came as a baby and then he would grow and then he would give and shed his blood on the cross for our sins, we accept what he did there, understanding that that was God, the Father’s manifestation of love for us, which we did not deserve for people who were dead in our trespasses and sins, not able to respond, but God showed his love to us in Jesus Christ. When we accept him there, then we can be wildly anticipating his second coming as king. And I hope that in fact you are.

So as you go through this Christmas season, and we’re close to the end of the year now, I hope that these programs have been helpful in helping to focus attention on the cast yes of Christmas, but at the central part of it, the center of Christmas, Christ, Jesus, Christ the Messiah Yeshua came coming again. Merry Christmas to you all.

 

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