The Blur of 2025, The Blurring of Reality in 2026

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Leo Hohmann

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 1/5/26. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand in the Gap Today and the first program in this new year of 2026. Got to get used to saying that number. Hard to believe, but we’re here. I trust that you were able to enjoy time with family and friends this past couple of weeks of Christmas and New Year’s. I know I was with our family and I hope that you were as well. I also hope that you’ve been blessed by the various programs that we played during these weeks. Some of them were specifically made for certain days prior to Christmas. You will note if you were listening to them, others were selected ones that were frequently mentioned by Stand in the Gap today listeners. But with 2026 now here, the Lord willing, we’re looking forward here on our team to continuing to address the most significant news of the day from a biblical worldview and constitutional perspective.

Now today, I’ve asked Leo Hohmann, author, researcher, independent investigative journalist and author of the 2017 book, Still Pertinent for the Day, Stealth Invasion, the name of that book. I’ve asked him to join me again. As we look back to what we can learn from 2025, many people are doing that, I know, but we’re going to look at it from another perspective today. And then to look ahead to how we can prepare our minds and hearts going into what will be a year filled with, I’m going to say, more change in tumult than we’ve ever seen. The title I’ve selected to frame our conversation today is simply this, The Blur of 2025, The Blurring of Reality in 2026. And with that, I welcome in right now to the program, Leo Hohmann. Leo, thanks for being back with me. It’s great to start the year out with you, brother.

Leo Hohmann:

Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Sam, and happy new year to you.

Sam Rohrer:

Indeed. Leo, today on today’s program, we’ve got a unique opportunity to look both back in the 2025 and ahead in the next year, as I said earlier. But you were also sensing this as well. You wrote two articles, one actually posted, I think, on January 1st, the other on January 3rd, both of which kind of look back into 2025 from your perspective about things we can or should learn. The other being an article, the January 3rd article, dealing with the biggest event to occur thus far in 2026, and that is the Trump ordered military attack on Venezuela and the capture of its president, the Maduro. So I’ve chosen to frame today’s program off of these two articles, because I think you have a lot of things in there that we can use as a jumping off point. So let me start here, if we don’t mind.

In America in particular, Leo, I think we’ve come to the point where we’ve been conditioned to believe that a new president, a new administration, a new election is all we’ll need to change everything and make all bad things good. We tend to measure success in terms of how we feel or perhaps how far our dollar stretches and how comfortable we can make our fields. It’s kind of a strange way to judge things, but I think that’s kind of where we are. And while some things do change with a new administration, many things do not change. So here’s my question to you. In your analysis, more broad perspective, what has changed for the good in 2025 in this first year of a Trump administration? What has changed perhaps for the bad, for the worse, and what has not changed?

Leo Hohmann:

Oh, wow. That is a great question, Sam. I would say the good, the border appears to have been tightened up. The flow of illegal aliens coming across the border has been brought to heel. This idea that gender can be fluid and that we could have transgendered people leading our military and various government agencies has been sort of turned around. They say crime is down in major cities and across America. I’m a little bit dubious on that one. I don’t know if I trust the FBI statistics, but if they’re true, then we could rack that up as an accomplishment.

The bad, President Trump ran on this idea that he was not a globalist and he was going to drain the swamp of globalists and end these foreign wars, foreign adventurism where the CIA and special operations are always meddling in the affairs of other countries, instigating wars and revolutions covertly and overtly. I would say that’s been actually put on warp speed and we’re seeing more of that type of activity. I know we’ll be discussing Venezuela probably at some point in this broadcast, just being the latest example. I think artificial intelligence and the advancement of the AI systems has been placed on steroids. It was happening under Joe Biden, but there was still some regulations on it.

It is totally unfettered now. All regulations have been taken off of the use of artificial intelligence. The president even is trying to make it so that states will not be able to pass any sorts of regulations on artificial intelligence. We’re seeing the AI data centers being constructed all across America. Hundreds of them in certain states like where I live in Georgia are either being built or planned to be built. That’s just in my state, I kid you not. Texas, Louisiana, Mark Zuckerberg is involved in this. Of course, Elon Musk and of course OpenAI, Sam. All of the major Larry Ellison, all of the major tech bros, the big oligarchal corporations are invested in this. $500 billion on day one of the Trump administration was announced to be invested in AI infrastructure. So that does not bode well for us in the future in terms of a control grid being set up and weaponized against we the people.

What has stayed the same? The third leg of your question, I would say the corruption of Washington and the lack of accountability. This idea that certain people are above the law are too big to fail or too big to go to prison. The oligarchs are still in place running the show just as they were under Joe Biden. There’s been no arrests of anybody who conspired against this country in any way. We were promised there would be, there has not been. So it’s just business as usual in that sense in Washington DC.

Sam Rohrer:

So just a few seconds left here, but in the march towards a globalist government, how has that been impacted?

Leo Hohmann:

Well, we see this whole … The outward structures of a global government like the UN have been sort of downplayed, but we see it being moved forward in different ways through what would be a North American Union. I mean, let’s call it what is. I think the whole idea of going after Latin America and making it aligned with the United States vision for the world, and now talking about Greenland and Canada’s the 51st state, and we might go after Cuba and Mexico and all of these countries. It’s part of a North American Union, only it’s being called something else.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay. Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen, because we’re going to go further into all of these things. Try to give an objective view of the good, bad, and the neutral, perhaps. When you come back, we’re going to begin talking a little bit more about what we can learn from 2025. If you’re just joining us today here on this first day of 2026, thanks for being on board. We’d like to thank all of you who communicated to us. A lot of our staff here were off the last couple of weeks as I referenced in the first segment. We do that generally, and then we will play certain selected programs and best of the year and that kind of thing. We did that. But when I came in earlier and looked down through communications, there were many communications from many of you from all across the country who shared financially that was helpful.

Comments, where you’re listening and what you’re getting from the program, very, very helpful. Thank you to all of you who participated. And I would ask that you don’t make it as a one time thing. Try to do that for the year. And above all things, pray daily. That’s something that doesn’t cost anything, but it’s so very, very important and we need that. Now today, if you’re just turning in Leo Hohmann as my guest, he has a website at Leo Hohmann. There’s two Ns in that name, H-O-H-M-A-N-N, leoHohmann.com, or leoHohmann.substack.com. It puts on both sites you can find his articles and including the two that we’ll refer to in the balance of the program here. But Leo, in your article from December 31st, actually it was posted on January 1st. It’s entitled In 2026, The Line Between Reality and Virtual Reality: The Real and the Fake Will Continue to Blur.

That was your title. And you used the theme, you used the words reality and virtual reality, the real and the fake. And that’s kind of where I’d like to go from my first question to you. What do you mean by that? And how is the fake and the virtual reality being presented continually to the American people as true and real? In other words, okay, just explain that.

Leo Hohmann:

Well, I think we live in a day of intense deception, spiritual, physical, mental, psychological deception at every turn. And we really do need to pray more than ever for discernment, spiritual discernment from the Lord Jesus Christ, because it’s getting really, really thick. I mean, when you have a president who renames the Department of Defense, the Department of War and is going around the world looking for fights. I mean, I’m just sitting back objectively. I voted for President Trump, so I can’t say that I had any bias against him whatsoever when he took office, but I think just looking at it, it appears like he’s going around the world looking for a fight. And when he was asked by a reporter yesterday, “What is your thinking and what are you basing all of these military operations on? ” We just conducted one in Venezuela. He’s threatening the new leader saying that if you don’t do what we say, your fate will be worse than that of Nicholas Maduro, which sounds to me like a death threat.

He’s telling Iran that we may be close to invading them.

Same with Greenland, same with Columbia. And so she asked him, “What is your thinking of it? What are you basing all this on? ” He said, “World peace.” World peace. All of this war and threats of war is because he’s for world peace. Okay? So that’s what I’m talking about. We cannot take anything at face value coming from any world leader right now, not just President Trump, but all the world leaders seem to be operating in a level of deep deception. Money, our dollar is failing and President Trump said that we need to update our financial system. And what is he talking about? He’s talking about replacing the paper fiat currency with a currency that is both digital and programmable. He’s introduced the Genius Act and signed that legislation, which sets up the stablecoin as the coming new digital currency. They call it money, but is it really money?

I mean, traditionally the concept of money is something physical that can be used as a storehouse for wealth. You cannot store up digital money. It’s at the whim of the technology and government teaming up together, technology corporations and the banking industry where they can program your money to where it is only useful in certain ways or in certain places. They can put boundaries on it. You can spend it here, but not there. I mean, we saw that with PayPal during COVID. PayPal, I think most people know what that is, was just a form of digital currency, and they would not allow you to buy certain things. You couldn’t buy ivermectin with your PayPal account. You couldn’t buy hydroxychloroquine. You cannot, to this day, buy ammunition for your handgun or a handgun. That money simply won’t work for those types of purchases. This is the type of system they want in place for money in general.

Okay? Totally eliminating all privacy, all of your freedom to buy something anonymously will be gone. And so they call it money. It is not. It’s fake. Fake freedom. They’re saying they liberated Venezuela. That’s yet to be seen, but if we go by history, we see what happened in other countries that we liberated like Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan. Life there is no different. In some cases, it’s worse than it was before we liberated them. So we’ve got fake peace. We’ve got fake freedom. We’ve got fake money. We’ve got a fake two party system. We’ve got this fake left right paradigm. As much as they tell us they’re against each other, everything seems to always go in the same direction, regardless of whether there’s a Democrat or Republican, at least in foreign affairs. You could argue, as we spoke earlier, that there’s some difference domestically with the borders being tightened up, the refutation of the idea that there can be transgenderism, and certain social things, social policies do change temporarily, at least.

But when it comes to the idea of expanding American empire in ways that … And by the way, I’m not necessarily against the American empire if it is done the right way. My argument in my last two articles is that it’s being done the wrong way.

Sam Rohrer:

Yeah. And with that, Leo, I could say amen to all of those things that you are saying, because they are all identifiable and it’s actually moving towards some event that will justify, for instance, the move to digital currency. We see what’s happening in the markets. That’s not the focus of the discussion today, but it is happening. All those things you are talking about. And so yeah, that’s the fake aspect. Let me go and ask you this other question. You were bold. You made a bold statement in your article, again, which you’re listening, you can find at leohomen.substack.com. It ties into this fake or accepting theater as real. We talk much about that as much what we’re seeing is theater. It’s something that is not real. It entertains. It distracts, but it’s not real. But in that, you said this, everyone in Washington is compromised. Everyone in Washington is somebody’s puppet.

Now, a lot of people would say yes, but I want to ask you this. Why do you say everyone? You didn’t say most. You said everyone. Everyone is compromised. Everyone in Washington is somebody’s puppet. What makes you say that?

Leo Hohmann:

That was partly hyperbolic. I mean, I’m not saying there may be one or two or three members of Congress who are not totally bought and paid for, but those are not the members of Congress who wield any power. They are people who are outliers and speaking against the system. We could, whether you agree or not, I could throw out one example just to make my point. I think Marjorie Taylor Green, she started speaking her mind on certain issues. Whether we agree or disagree with what she said, the fact of the matter is she was going against the will and the thrust and the momentum of her party. And so what happened to her? She was threatened by the president of being … He was going to put someone up against her in the primary. He was going to fund her opponent to the tune of millions of dollars.

Same thing with Thomas Massey, another member of the GOP delegation in Congress, who has been critical of the Trump administration. There is a candidate who is … I don’t want to mince words. He’s a lap dog of the president who is going to be funded to the tune of multiple millions of dollars with super PAC money to run against Thomas Massey in the upcoming primary in 2026. So everybody, when I say that, I mean 95 to 99% of the people in Washington who hold elected offices, they do not represent we the people or the people of their districts. They represent their biggest donors. Okay? And if you go against the tide of the donor crowd, the donor class, your fate in Washington will be to be relegated to the sidelines and dismissed as a conspiracy theorist or what have you, or worse yet, you may have big money come up against you to run a candidate to defeat you.

Sam Rohrer:

And Leo, to that, I would agree. I didn’t know how you would answer that question. And I thought that the everybody term was a little bit hyperbolic, but I would have answered it the same way. I’ve been in office. My observation is the same way. There may be a few who are not full puppets, but when a person does not stand up for that which is true and rolls over on all of the votes, they’re compromised. So ladies and gentlemen, it is a big issue. It is a very big issue when truth, the Constitution, God’s moral law does not prevail as the standard, but when pragmatics or a president or a party or something else becomes the standard, all right, then you have what we see. That’s objective, I believe. We’ll be back and we’ll go to Venezuela next. Well, Leo, in that last segment, we could have gone a lot deeper, clearly on all of the things that were being discussed, but we’re doing this a bit of a highlight here today, looking back and then looking ahead.

But as we mentioned at the beginning, that you wrote an article on January 3rd that deals with, I’m going to say, probably the biggest news of thus far in 2026, and that is the area of a blur surrounding the Trump ordered attack on Venezuela and the resulting capture of President Maduro and his wife. The blur is that such a move is historic from my perspective without congressional pre-approval. And there are some saying, “Well, there’s someone, a couple of the committees said, all right, we knew about it, but that’s not, in my opinion, congressional approval.” The statement by the president that America will rule Venezuela, which is what has been said, will rule Venezuela until we determine that they can rule themselves means that … Well, you’ll never define that because there’s no definition to it. So anyways, that we will take over the oil reserves and reintroduce American oil companies to increase production, to be paid for out of the oil revenue.

Now, the mechanism to bring in American business, to pay for them out of revenues that government is overseeing to me has no precedent, but nonetheless, some are defending the actions, some are condemning the actions, and I’m going to say these opinions as I’ve looked at them are not strictly along partisan lines. So here’s my first question in an overall view, how do you analyze the attack on Venezuela and the abduction of the president and his wife, whereas some are actually saying an extraction where Maduro, perhaps seeing the handwriting on the wall agreed to a stand down deal ordering his own guys not to defend him and not shoot, and instead of dying like a hero and a bunker like Saddam Hussein agreed to a life of potential ease in exchange for turning over the assets of his nation. There’s a lot of things happening, but we don’t know, but I want to know what you are thinking at this point based on what we know.

Leo Hohmann:

Well, there’s still a lot that we don’t know in terms of the operation itself. I mean, I’m hearing that anywhere from 40 to 80 people were killed, that would include civilians in the bombings that took place before they stormed into the presidential palace, but I am hearing that also some or all of the members of his personal security force were killed. So I don’t know personally enough about it, but it does seem like a brilliant military operation by the US armed forces, the Delta force. We just don’t know the details as to how many were actually killed and who they were. Was it his security force? If so, then that would kind of go against the theory that it was a prearranged stand down, but maybe that will turn out to be inaccurate. It’s too early. Maybe nobody in his security force was actually killed.

We could find out tomorrow or in the next hour that that was a false report. So I don’t know about that. All I know is it was successful from a military point of view.

From a moral standpoint, it would seem to me to be a quite flagrant and blatant violation of all rules that are norms of international law and even US law where we have the War Powers Act of 1973, which requires Congress to weigh in with its approval whenever the president wants to put US forces in harm’s way in another country. And of course, it would just seem to be the rule of law being replaced by the rule of power. We can do it. Why? Because we can. We have this post World War II rules based order, but it’s an order where we make the rules and we exempt ourselves from many of the rules that we make and impose upon other countries. I mean, think if Russia or China took its cues from the United States and started operating in the international realm the way we do.

What if China said, “Well, you know, looking at what you did in Venezuela, we’re just going to fly in and kidnap the leaders of the Taiwanese government, haul them back to Beijing and have them stand trial and take over the island.” We would be outraged. What if Putin swooped his special forces into Kiev and kidnapped Vladimir Zelensky, took him back to Moscow and put him on trial for crimes against the Russian people? We would be absolutely outraged. So it’s do as I say, not as I do, and I think over the long term, while that may play well right now and look like a win for the Trump administration, I think it’s going to come back to bite us, Sam. I really do. At some point, I think that the anger of the world is just going to be building like a cauldron against the United States to the point where I advised in my article, Americans, this would not be a good time to be traveling abroad to Europe or wherever, because I do think that there is a seething hatred building against this country and operations like what we saw in Venezuela while we are able to do it because we have the military might, is it wise to use our military might in that way?

In a short term, maybe so, but in the medium and long term, what will the ramifications be? I don’t think anyone is asking those questions.

Sam Rohrer:

And I would agree with you, Leo, on that, in that we’ve said many, many times that when a government and governmental policies are not governed by a first consideration of what is moral from God’s perspective, and then secondarily in our nation, it is the constitution and the constitutional oath. If we do not follow those in that sequence, what are you left with? Well, you’re left with pragmatism. And as we said many, many times, some past administrations, you could say in many cases weren’t governed really by anything, it’s just plain evil. But the current administration, I have said many times, is governed by pragmatism. It’s not my opinion. It is, and that’s been publicly acknowledged by pragmatism. Pragmatism does allow you to come up with some quite good justifications, but it does not take into account those larger considerations of moral morality or constitutionality, and you can just figure out some way to get around them, but the long term, as you say, dangerous.

Now you talked about the moral aspect of it and the moral high ground. The moral high grounds is something that we’ve had in this nation for a long time, but as you mentioned about China and Taiwan or Russia in Ukraine, that’s the moral high ground. When we give it up, when we do not lead with a moral high ground, then what’s going to happen with the rest of the world who don’t have any fear of God at all?

Leo Hohmann:

Yeah. I mean, that’s a great point. I think when we act with it, use our military might unwisely like this, it’s based on the assumption that we will always be on the top of the power pyramid. I think that’s a unwise assumption because God has a way of humbling even the most mighty rulers and kings of the earth if we look at history. And at some point, the United States of America may not be at the top of the pinnacle of power in the world and what is going to happen, nobody is going to be coming to our aid because when the bully finally gets taken down, let’s bring it down to school yard politics. When the bully who’s been beating up on weaker kids for months or years, finally somebody stands up to them and punches him in the nose, nobody comes to his aid.

They all stand aside and watch and either outwardly or inwardly rejoice at the bully being taken down. And that’s the future, I fear, for the American superpower in this world, if we continue to act the way we are, not using our power in a judicious or wise manner.

Sam Rohrer:

Back at the beginning of our country, even on a lot of the state seals and all that is a word called virtue, an honor and fidelity. Those words of that type, those all are the things that have made our nation as a whole in the past, even though the power was there, you didn’t do certain things just because you could. You had to say, “No, no, I can’t do that. I can’t go there. Even though I could go there, I don’t have the right to go there.” But when you remove those restraints, moral annual constitutional restraints, and to say that any hurdle that you come up against when you want to do something is just figure out a way to get around it, will always, always undercut honor, fidelity, respect, all of those things that come by doing things right in other nations of the world, they look and they say, “Well, we can’t stand you.

” And that gets kind of to the point that you’re talking about. It’s my sense that that’s been happening and developing almost at breakneck speed too.

Leo Hohmann:

100%, Sam. This is not something we can put totally on President Trump. It’s been building for decades. We’ve been lied to when the United States is taken into a foreign war. It’s usually waged over a lie if you think about it. Like the Iraq war was waged over the lie of weapons of mass destruction and The Venezuelan thing, we’ve been given various mixed messaging actually. It’s about drugs, it’s about a police action. Well, you don’t bring the Delta force into arrest somebody for drugs, right? So that’s a lie. It’s about oil. It’s about liberation, freedom, and democracy. These are all lies.

Sam Rohrer:

And ladies and gentlemen, stay with it because all these things, we could go much further, but when we come back, I’m going to ask and talk with Leo about some things that we can and should do going into 26. There’s things that we can approach how our thinking is so that we don’t get caught up in this blurring and be confused as to what’s happening. Before we go into the final segment, again, thanks for being with us today. Again, as always, if you weren’t able to catch the entire program from the beginning, you can pick it up at standinagapradio.com or on your app, which if you have not downloaded that, it’s a free app. You can find all of the programs, the weekend, this program, Stand in the Gap Today, the Minute Program, TV programs that are weekly. You can find it all there at your fingertips.

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And it’s very important for the good guys that are out there of which he is one. Now, regardless of how one looks at the events of the day, we’ve talked about some of them here on this program. Be they the words and the strategy of the current administration or past administrations or the incessant flooding of social media with real and mostly fake images resulting in AI that’s just dominating everything or sensational threats of harm or demise. I just get weary of looking at all of these things people are trying to do to get us distracted. Some are real, most are fake, but they all seem to have certain things in common. Dividing of Americans is one. Dividing one against another, pitting one group against another. I think there’s something else that’s happening and it’s making people cynical, making them cynical that justice will ever be done.

Well, at the same time, or maybe as the result of confirming the depth of official corruption. I mean, how many times are we hearing about so- and-so involved in thus and thus and this and that? And the other thing, nobody goes to jail. And so then it causes one to think, “Well, what is this? ” Or perhaps the unrelenting push toward war. And it just does seem that that’s unrelenting. To me, the complete absence of anything bound by the Constitution or God’s moral law or anything even remotely reflective of the fear of God, I don’t see that anywhere. So in light of these things, where do we go? What kind of basic guidelines should we embrace? Leo, in your December 31st or January 1st article when it was posted, you concluded by making two statements. The first one was this. The nightmare scenario for the Luciferian globalist technocrats is that those on both the right and the left figure out that the red to blue Democrat Republican divide is the biggest psyop of all.

The second was this. The momentum is all toward war. You can feel the pressure building. We are likely to see the top blow off of the international pressure cooker in 2026. So answer this one shortly, and then I want to go to some solutions that you give. But why did you select these two things, these examples of what is compelling us into 2026 and how they’re connected?

Leo Hohmann:

Well, I think 2026 is going to be a year of increasing chaos and confusion, Sam, filled with deceptions, divisions, and disorienting black swan events of which war is just going to be won. One of the major ones will be war and this march towards what I believe is world war, a third world war. And with that comes the possibility of nuclear exchange. I wouldn’t rule that out in 2026 or 2027 because once things go kinetic, the gloves come off. War becomes very unpredictable. And so that’s why war should be a last resort. And we shouldn’t be going around the world looking for a new war to fight because it can become unpredictable. Unforeseen circumstances always arise out of wars and massive change comes from world wars. Maps get redrawn as we saw after World War I and World War II. And so yes, we’re going to have more black swan events.

There’s so many distractions with what’s going on with all of these events, Sam, that it’s very hard for people to figure out what’s going on. And I think that’s by design. That’s what the globalists want. This idea of out of chaos comes a new order, a new world order. And I think that is the ultimate goal of what we’re moving towards. Everything else has to be fit into the wider, bigger patterns that we see moving. And that’s part of the problem. People look at the event of the day or the week and they don’t know how to see the broader patterns and that comes with discernment. So what we should be doing is definitely praying for discernment.

Sam Rohrer:

I agree, Leo. And we call here the connecting of the dots, the linking of the past to the future. Looking back, considering that what was Solomon told us, there’s nothing new under the sun, and the Lord gives us the prophetical layout for the roadmap for the future in scripture. So for the believer who fears God, everything that’s happening around us should be taken into account with what the word of God says will happen. And that’s why the Lord himself, as you said earlier, we are to pray that we are not deceived because deception is at a demonically high level. Not being the case, just a few minutes left here. What should God fearing Americans focus on in these months ahead? And I’m going to say you have concluded with some of these things in your article, which I thought were quite good. Yeah.

Leo Hohmann:

I think we need to return back to the basics, Bible study, community with our fellow believers and our family members, sharing the gospel with those who have not yet had an opportunity to hear it. But also, I mean, you gave me some ideas before we went on air of scriptures that I need to double down on, some prophecies in the book of Jeremiah I’m going to dig into. So we all need to go back to the basics of the gospel message and Old and New Testament and get a better firmer grip on our biblical worldview and praying for discernment at the same time.

Sam Rohrer:

And you concluded by saying this, I think it’s important. It’s time we question everything. We need to pray for discernment that we’ll be able to tell the difference between a core issue aimed at stripping us of our freedom and humanity and important sounding issues meant to distract. Deception has a goal of distracting, of confusing, of moving us to some point where we’re incapable of interpreting what is. That’s the surreal, the virtual reality type thing that you were talking about. And then you concluded with a verse from Micah six: eight. Do you have that on hand? Do you want to read that?

Leo Hohmann:

I don’t have it in front of me, Sam. If you want to read it, I think it is a very appropriate scripture.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay. I have it because you wrote it in your article. And you say this, meditate on this. I think it’s a great thing. Micah six: eight says that he has shown you, oh man, what is good and what does the Lord require of you, but to do justly, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. Ladies and gentlemen, that’s what we should do. Fear God and keep his commandments. That’s what God says from a national perspective. You want the blessings of God. You fear God and you keep his commandments. You want to run head into the headwinds of God’s judgment? Well, you think you are God. You replace God with something else and you care nothing or little for his commandments. It’s pretty clear. That’s what scripture is. So oh man, what is good? Well, love mercy. Do justly walk humbly with your God.

Leo Hohmann, thank you so much for being with me today. Kick off this first program of the new year here on Stand in the Gap today. My Lord bless you and what you’re doing. And ladies and gentlemen, his website again is leoHohmann.substack.com. And again, our program, which you can find here at standinagapradio.com.