Tremors and Tensions: The US-EU-China and More

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: JR McGee

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 2/2/26. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s the first Monday of February, 2026. Time is flying. We all know that we can sense it over the weekend. As I’ve said many, many times big events happen to occur over the weekend, announcements changes. It’s the way the media and government does things because it gets caught up in the activities of the weekend. Well, this weekend was no exception. It just fell in that category, but here’s just a few things that happened over the weekend. 3 million more Epstein files all required by law, if you’re following that to have been released a long time ago. They were dumped on Friday, an absolutely historic collapse of commodities, gold and silver of which there are apart and others on Friday wiped out over $10 trillion in wealth and a single day. Major structural changes underway worldwide in the monetary area, banking economic area.

Then there’s the nomination of Kevin Walsh by President Trump as the new Federal Reserve chairman. His pick for that spot that is being acknowledged as rocking the markets because of his prior hawkish statements, though positive on one side is shaking the future’s markets since his appointment by the president is viewed by everyone as being a puppet under political control, where the independent actions of the Federal Reserve and financial policies would be directed by political changes rather than independence, and that is a no-no. So that’s a factor in there. Then there are the US economic numbers released on Friday, which show a huge discrepancy between what Treasury Secretary Besant is saying about a vibrant economy and what the US manufacturing statistics, for instance, are actually showing. Then there’s the buildup to war in the Middle East with Iran and then the Pentagon over the weekend raising the fear of possible related attacks on US Homeland where there are 15 different cities identified as potential targets.

Well, all of those things, why do we say that? Because all of those things lay the foundation for a very unsettled world and a predictably confusing week of news. Now all of these things were dumped onto the public again just over the weekend. Now, today, we’re not going to deal with all these things and that wasn’t the attempt. We’re going to deal with a couple things which have significant bearing though on the United States international relations and geopolitics. My recurring guest today is JR McGee with me every month, generally on the first Monday of the month. He’s the Extreme Leadership Group founder and CEO, and he’s been involved in strategic leadership military generally related not exclusively, but counter-terrorism specialists over 30 years now. The title I’ve selected to frame today’s focus is this, tremors and Tensions, the us, European Union, China and More. It gives you an idea of where we’re going with that. Jr welcome to the program. Good to have you back.

JR McGee:

It’s always a pleasure to be here, Sam, and I really appreciate your ministry and the audience participation. Thank you.

Sam Rohrer:

Yep, you are welcome. Well, let’s get right into it. We’ve got a lot more to cover than we have time for, but when I sum up all the things that are happening today, Jay, I actually come up with three different ways, three Bs. It’s all biblical, biblical, biblical. That’s one way I look at what’s happening or the three Cs, confusion, cynicism, corruption. That’s another way to look at what’s happening. I came up with this one too, the three Ds deception, dismantling and diatribe. There’s a lot of ways we could look at what’s happening, but one thing I know JR r, you and I have talked about it more than ever, we need great godly wisdom and discernment less that even the very elect are deceived. Now, that being the case, one of the areas I want to get into first is changing relationships between the United States and nato United States and the European Union. These things are being augmented and inflamed in many cases by the statements of our president. But from your perspective, how do you see the relationship between the US and NATO changing and in reality, will there be an ongoing relationship with NATO in the United States or is Donald Trump possibly trying to separate from NATO completely as some are saying?

JR McGee:

That’s a great question. Sam and the EU and NATO are continuing to remain central pillars of the United States’ global strategy, but the relationship, just like every relationship changes over time and now the relationship is shifting towards more bargaining and we are looking for European entities to do more of the burden sharing. It’s not really fair for the United States to provide all the minimum serial and the financing to protect them and the relationship’s going to become more transactional versus emotional. I think some of those are good, but the real key to this in terms of why this shift’s taking place is the United States regards Europe as more of a secondary theater now instead of a primary theater during the Cold War. The Indo-Pacific is the primary military threat and the economic, technologically and financial threat that we’re really concerned about now. So we’re shifting away from a focus on Europe, fortress Europe and into trying to defend the United States from the Pacific.

We’re using trade to extract concessions, in my opinion, that should have been balanced a long time ago, but these are changes and people like change and they really don’t like it when it costs them money. So our former partners and who still are partners, but they’re looking for ways and other partners to lessen their reliance and dependence on the US and especially the US dollar. I believe our policy on this is short-term gain for what may be long-term pain in the future because alliances and relationships with allies is critical for the security of the United States. If all we do is focus in on the dollar, we’re being very shortsighted. Now, in terms of your question as to whether or not we’re going to move away, in June of last year on 24 25 June, NATO secured Trump agreeing to a strong commitment to the collective defense of NATO from Article five. That calmed a lot of the waters down because America said we will step in for Article five for any attack on a European nation will be considered an attack on America. So we very much are still committed to the EU and NATO in particular, but that relationship’s got to change. It’s got to change to a more balanced, more nuanced position where they assume greater responsibility for their own protection. Sam.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, and JR, that brings us right up to the break, ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. We’re going to shift into China, but I do have another question for JR relative to the EU in statements that have been made be about Greenland and NATO’s response to us threatening Greenland as an example and some moves from Canada that would well would raise questions about the ongoing viability and shape of NATO as we have known it. So get some clarification on that and then we’re going to go into a broader discussion about China and what they are doing, their goals, their strategies and more. Stay with us, we’ll be right back. Okay, Jr, before we move into the discussion on China, and we’re going to devote a half part of this segment and next segment to that area because it’s so large. I wanted to pose another question to you relative to the us, the EU and NATO and that relationship with these questions in mind and a number of these statements were made at the recent gathering at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

The Canadian leader spoke and was very, very, very clear. Other European leaders spoke and were very clear. The president spoke and made very specific statements, a lot of which angered our European allies because he said they really didn’t play a major role in efforts, past efforts, whether it be Afghanistan and or Middle East, and there were major things that came out as a result of that. The sighting of America, first we all know, has been a leading statement by the president, yet I don’t think I have heard an agreed to definition of what that means and other world leaders have commented they don’t know what that means and it seems to change, which has contributed to some confusion, but then link that together with this because these statements are causing some fundamental changes to occur in the EU and NATO members. For instance, one affects our neighbor to the north of Canada.

The president we know has attacked Canada, has belittled them, belittled the Prime Minister have referred to Canadians being the 51st state and repeated that all kind of things. We were all aware of that and so the new Prime Minister Carney made a major speech at the World Economic Forum and really said, we are done with the rules-based order referring to the United States. We’re going to do our own thing. And then he consummated some trade agreements with China, with energy and so forth, and then made trade agreements with the European Union and Canada lessening the dependence and the connection to the United States. All of that being said, JR is this, there are things that are happening fundamentally even with our neighbor to the North Canada that is actually bringing them into proximity with China of all places and the European Union, the UK Starmer is over in China. So these things are fundamentally happening. How do you look at that and how would you explain that from a strategic perspective? JR are you on

JR McGee:

Hold? Yes, Sam. This is really big Sam and this is affecting a lot of our allies. This America first doctrine has rattled a lot of our partners and our allies and certainly got the attention of our adversaries. Everybody’s scrambling to see just what it means strategically. Now, let me say this about Canada. We are guilty of taking Canada for granted and not really paying them the respect that they’re due on occasion. In fact, I’ll go so far as to say they sometimes feel like redheaded stepchildren and I don’t blame them. I really don’t. They provide a significant part of the North American alliance. They have been a partner. In fact, that’s kind of one reason we take them for granted is that they’re so reliable. But look at the F 30 fives. They were going to buy F 30 fives so that they were integrated into the defense of our airspace.

And now because of all this, they’re looking at other aircraft. That’s a major, major investment that has been put into risk. Now I teach a class in international negotiation skills and what I see happening is exactly what I tell people not to do. You don’t lead with threats and intimidation to get what you need unless you have zero other options. You always strive to find a win-win for both parties first and second. But we’ve gone straight to using the dollar as a hammer and using trade is a bludgeon and that makes people very, very resistant and resentful. Now, NATO has committed to providing 5% of their GDP for defense, and that’s been a need for the last 20 years. Their forces need drastic improvement and resupply. But I want to say this about the men and women of NATO. From my personal experience in Iraq and Afghanistan and in other places where I’ve been, they have fought bled, and in too many cases they’ve died beside us with honor, bravery, and distinction.

I don’t think anybody has the right to diminish the role that these people from other countries have played in assisting the United States. And other times when we are assisting them, they serve with distinction. They have every bit as much honor as we do, and I really hate to see anybody say anything to diminish that. But with that being said, the forces for NATO in particular in Canada in specific distinctly need reinforcement. They need renewal and they need investment. And nobody likes spending money. There’s a saying in the military, nobody wants the military around until somebody’s shooting at you. And if they can spend money on social programs that buys them votes, if they spend money on military that usually doesn’t buy them votes, but they’re going to have to invest in their own security because the world has always been a dangerous place. Now it’s becoming a critically dangerous place, Sam.

Sam Rohrer:

Oh, okay, that’s great. I’m just going to let it there just because of time. But again, NATO and all the relationships with us in the middle of it are strained. Let’s just put it that way. That’s strained and how it works out. Okay, there are factors there. Let’s move to China now because even in the case of Canada and as I mentioned the UK, they are going to China, which is an enemy of us and making alignments with them, but they are our NATO members. So I’m saying there are some factors in here that are very big that we can’t necessarily deal with totally. But when we go to China, because so much is involved with them, layout, define if you would a little bit their goals, their strategies, what makes them, what you’d say moving the concern from the theater of Europe to the South Pacific China is what you were referring to there. What are they doing? We’ve used words like before, soft power or asymmetric warfare. Explain a little bit of what they’re doing and why they are a serious threat.

JR McGee:

Threat. Asymmetric warfare is not understood by most Americans. Asymmetric warfare is warfare by other means. It’s where I attack your electrical grid, your communication systems, your supply chain, your financial markets. I don’t attack you with tanks and ships and planes. I attack you in the areas that are soft, that are very hard to defend. And China has become extraordinarily good at that. Now, China’s long-term strategy is to erode the US primacy and move the world toward a more China centric global world order as opposed to a US centric world order. Now, they want to do this by avoiding direct confrontation wherever they can, but they’re also using their influence, their money and their technology to supplant the United States to move us out and move themselves in. They call this blunting. The Chinese strategy is to blunt US power and to build Chinese influence, and they’re using this by several different ways.

The Belt and Roads initiative is primary. The Asian infrastructure investment bank is another way that they’re using money and loans to buy their way into other countries. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization is expanding China’s role as a financier and rule maker and security provider where the US is either limited or contested, but the Chinese have invested heavily in strategic technologies, artificial intelligence, they’re either close to leading or leading in artificial intelligence, 5G and six G that’s coming out. Quantum computing, digital infrastructure, these are the technological high grounds for the future economic and military struggle that’s coming. And we’ve got to work to compete in these arenas every bit as much as we are in the traditional military arenas that we’ve done so well. But there’s also a saying, what got you here won’t get you there. We’ve got to shift and adapt to the new environment and not rely on what worked 40 years ago, Sam.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, so that’s the direction that they have done. It’s interesting that you mentioned them about China because one of the presentations at the World Economic Forum, which got a lot of attention, a lot of people were speaking there, one of the individuals there, a guy named Yuval Noah Harri, he’s an Israeli, but he’s kind of like the philosopher. He’s the expressor of the vision of the world Economic forum, global type people. But he made a point in talking about artificial intelligence and its expanse. And he said it’s interesting because when he has spoken, it’s generally been a telegraphing prophecy, more of like this is what the entire group has decided. But he made a point of stating that understanding that in the development, artificial intelligence, the peoples of the world will have two choices. The United States or China, east West. And the way that was expressed there was almost to me almost like it was, all right, these are two powers that are vying for supremacy, us trying to keep it.

Suppose China trying to get it and AI and all these things that you talked about are leading and almost views them as two powers. Now here’s the question I want you to ask When we come back, some have suggested that rather than this being a rural enemy, it’s more good cop, bad cop, and there’s an agreement almost between the east China, the west, the United States to actually move things along so that ultimate global control can be exercised. Interesting thought. I’d like to know your thoughts when we come back. Well, if you’re just joining us, we’re midway through the program right now. JR McGee is with me today. With me generally once a month. Often we try to like the first Monday of the month, which is what we’re dealing with today. And our theme is this tremors and tensions, and that’s really describing relationships between the nations of the world and leaders as we’re evidencing it.

But we’re focusing on the United States primarily. We’re starting here, looked at NATO, the European Union some and now China Jr. Lemme just repose that question to you in case people didn’t hear it. But it is this, leaders of the world, like World Economic Forum, people are envisioning and stated a couple of weeks ago in significant positions, you really have the United States, you really have China, the leaders militarily, the leaders economically in many respects, AI specifically mentioned whoever controls that the thinking is will control the ability to run the world rule the world integrate, I would say digital monetary system and tracking and all of that is all wrapped up in that. But he said the world will have two choices, east China West, the United States. I don’t know whether that’s true or not, but in that regard, do you think it’s possible that at the end of the day, since we witnessed so much theater and so much deception is taking place that you have China and the United States, you always need a villain, you always need a good guy, are and not at the end of the day operating behind the scenes perhaps together a little bit to create tension with the goal of ultimately moving forward a global system.

Anyways, just your thoughts on that,

JR McGee:

Sam. I’ve thought quite a bit about that and I think there’s always some alignment, some negotiations, even between enemies. I think that there is movement between the two, but the stakes are so high. I think that what we may be seeing is manipulation of both parties by a third underworld or back room organization that’s trying to control them such as the WEF or things of that nature. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but when I see the power some of these unofficial organizations have economically and diplomatically, it’s hard not to see how they’re affecting the movement of nations.

And China is an ascending power. The United States is a declining power. That’s just a fact. We may be able to reverse it, but as it stands right now, that’s the situation. And China’s taking advantage of a world that’s growing tired of the United States, using the dollar as a weapon to get what we can accomplish through diplomacy or negotiations. The world is really sick of being threatened with tariffs and sanctions. I would rather see us try to work with other countries to see value versus coercion. Like I said in the opening segment, that’s your last negotiation tactic, not your first.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, that is excellent and I think I just may leave it there at that point, but I will undergird what you’re saying. The economic billionaires of the world represented by the World Economic Forum are working with, well, not just the president has his billionaires around him, Putin has his billionaires around him and Z has the billionaires around him and they’re all tied into the World Economic Forum. And I thought one of the presentations at the World Economic Forum that caught my attention was the leader of BlackRock investment, which manages, I don’t know what I’m trying to find, at $15 trillion, something like that. And they’re involved in every nation of the world. They’re heavily involved in China, they are heavily involved the United States Wall Street. So yes, to undergird your point, the economic kings of the earth are actually pulling the strings because whoever controls the money actually controls the political power that we know. So I’m just going to let that there. Any further comments on that? If not move into strategies that China’s been using, for instance, like in rare earth minerals and that kind of thing. So any comment first and then move into other strategies that China’s using?

JR McGee:

Absolutely, and I want to bounce off what you just said. A lot of people misunderstand power and money. They think that with money they can buy power that’s wrong. If I have power, I can get all the money I want, but with money I have a limited amount of power that I can rent. With real power, I can get all the money that I want. So the real power behind this is the people who can shape events and change the course of history, not who just controls the money. The money is the obvious. The power behind that is where the real control is. And if you follow the power, you’ll always wind up finding the money that’s different than most people think.

Sam Rohrer:

That’s a great point. Okay, let’s go into now China, if you want to lay out other strategy like rare earth minerals and that kind of thing. And then I want to, in this section, I’m just going to set it up so you go into however you want, but we’ve got to talk about China and perhaps their involvement even in what’s happening. And Iran, some information that I just saw would indicate that at least there’s a potential if not more than that, that there may be Chinese and Russian troops on the ground and perhaps that’s involved in what I’m understanding perhaps is the present decision to back off there in Iran. I’m not sure, but put all that together, complete the segment with the information.

JR McGee:

The rare earths is a really good case in point, and I want to make the point, Sam, governments do not solve problems. Individuals and private enterprise solve problems. And once they found out that there was a problem with rare earths just in the last year, it’s been stunning how many deposits of rare earths have been discovered and can be mined. In Wyoming alone, there’s 2.34 billion tons of rare earths. That’s the largest mine ever discovered is now in the United States. Kazakhstan, they found another 20 million tons. Sweden found a million tons. Greenland, which is very much in the news right now, has untold billions of tons of rare earths according to geologists. And now even Japan is mining rare earth from the seabed with some promising new technology. So when you give human beings a problem, they will solve it. Not governments people. And as I’m looking at China, China is using all of this discord that they’re fomenting, they’re using that to move their way into different areas to execute control.

They’re buying their way into ports, they’re buying railways, they’re financing power plants, they’re funding the digital connectivity. Asia, Africa, middle East and even parts of Europe. And in terms of Iran, both China and Russia view Iran as an opportunity to weaken the United States and pull our military away from the South China Sea and into the Middle East where we’re tied up dealing with really in all aspects, a minor issue should be if it wasn’t so dangerous, but it takes the attention away from the Indo-Pacific where the attention really should be. So China is using Iran, they’re supplying their radars to replace what we blew up and they’re also supplying technology for their ICBMs. Russia is resupplying them with air defense systems, but they’re using Iran as a foil and we have to deal with it because Iran is the lead promulgator of terrorism throughout the world.

So we have to go do it, but China’s using that to their strategic advantage. Now China’s also trying to get more access into critical resources and especially sea lanes. Their focus on the South China Sea is they realize that one fifth of all trade in the world goes through the South China Sea right beside Taiwan. And if they can control that, they control the markets for Chinese exports and they control the limitation of imports and exports from every other country. Now they use that in terms of goodwill by using money, but really it’s to buy power, it’s to use power and to execute power and to prove to them that these countries need to look to them for support and not the United States. Now, this Belt and Roads initiative is generated an awful lot of attention and they go in and provide financing to countries when the country can’t make the payments, the Chinese take over their resources and their assets.

Well, that’s gotten a lot of negative publicity. So now China’s focusing in on small but beautiful projects that there’s a Chinese word for it, but it’s small but beautiful and that’s their way to buy into these countries now like they were trying to do in Venezuela, like they’ve done in Cuba, like they’ve done in Africa, like they’ve done in a lot of places in the Middle East to include Israel. A lot of people don’t realize it, but China is financing and installing the underground subway systems in Israel and some of their other infrastructure in Israel. That’s shocking to me, but that’s what’s happening and it’s happening in a big, big way. China, you got to remember, China’s been a country, a substantial country for thousands of years. The United States has been a substantial country for 250 years. They know what they’re doing. They know how to trade their masters at finance and industry and figuring out how to get what they want. They’re masterful negotiators and they will use anything. Their ethics are different than ours, but they’re not necessarily wrong. They’re different and they use that to their advantage and they use it in every situation to try to get as much as they can for as little as they can, but it’s all about gaining strategic advantage and power.

Sam Rohrer:

And with that, ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. We’ll come back into the next segment concluding by backing up a bit quite a bit and actually looking down at what’s happening globally. We’ve looked at a few countries right now. Look at the bigger picture when we come back and factor into it, the biblical and hypothetical. Alright, Jr, let’s go into this final segment here. Now, when we’re together, we look at geopolitical items. For all of you listening, that’s generally where we go on this. Geopolitical items we tie in a prophetical and biblical generally conclude with that, which we’re going to do now, but analyze events from a strategic perspective of which JR his background is in that area. So that is why we’ve gone this direction and tried to do it once a month. But JR, there’s no question about it. When we look at what’s happening around the world, we’ve talked about it really for years.

If we see alliances of nations begin to change, the Russia begins to link up with the Turkey, which lines up then with Iran and all of that around Israel. And then we’ve talked about China and their involvement and then we’ve talked today about the United States and its role and how because of sanctions and tariffs in the using of the dollar, we create a great deal of instability, which was obvious by so many comments of everybody who gathered at the World Economic Forum a week ago, the European Union, the relationships there, NATO, basically all of these international and national relationships seemed to be at some point of transition. How it ends up, well, that could be a question. So here’s my question. I’m going to pose it to you like in two halves and you can move from one end to the other, but one is that from a purely strategic more of a military or a national security perspective, without God, let’s put that way without necessarily looking through the lens of scripture. How would one view, what is taking place and where is it headed the other? Then, once you overlay the same thing through the lens of scripture and what we know from biblical prophecy, how would one, you look at the very same things that are happening but perhaps a different conclusion. Can you do that Jr, you’re on mute.

JR McGee:

No, sir. I was just thinking for a second for your question.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay.

JR McGee:

I’ve thought a great deal about this and the way that I approach these sessions with our audience and with the people that I work with. A lot of people report on the news headlines. I like to look at the news behind the headlines, what’s driving that, what’s working behind the scenes and my mission in life is to help people understand what’s going on behind the scenes that’s driving those headlines. And what’s undeniable is the world is undergoing a massive realignment today, very soon.

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, now I do think we lost you at that point, JR. Maybe Tim, you can try to call him back or see what if we can do that. Ladies and gentlemen, when you’re alive, this is live. When that happens, if it wouldn’t be, we would edit this out, but we’ll try to get JR back with us at this moment. But I think what JR was beginning to say, and we’ve talked about it a lot, is that from a given perspective, a political perspective as an example or a economic only or a financial perspective, what you saw at the World Economic Forum as an example was a, okay, Jr, I was filling space just saying that there’s two views. Worldview end up directing how one comes at it, but go back into it if you don’t mind.

JR McGee:

Technology is wonderful when it works, Sam, as I was saying, things are changing at the speed of stink and they say you can never go home and that’s referencing all this change. If somebody’s lived in 14 states in four countries in my lifetime, you people understand that as well as I do, nothing stays the same. As you look at the strategic analysis of some of these world affairs and how power ebbs and flows over time, it’s a lot like a river that cuts a new channel through the landscape. It’s always changing and is always seeking the path of least resistance to the sea countries and people and societies are exactly the same way. As we’ve said China. They’re an ascending power. You can deny it if you want, but it’s not going to change the fact that it’s true. And unfortunately, the United States gave China the money to accomplish what they’ve done through a massive wealth transfer that horses out of the barn.

China also understands asymmetrical warfare and they use that to its best advantage. And as we’ve talked about that, I believe that because we used to be the world’s only superpower that we needed to fear no one, but thinking that today will get you defeated in minutes on the cyber battlefields of today and looking at that, I would say pay attention to Cuba. Cuba is going to be a very big story in the very, very near future. Looking at this from a perspective of the Bible, totally different. I’m not afraid. I know who holds tomorrow and I know how this ultimately plays out, Sam. I love my country. I’ve sacrificed my health. I’ve left family and friends behind so many times. I’ve lost count over the years, but I love my Lord even more. He is the ultimate strategist and the ultimate planner. God, it’s inconceivable how he’s planned out every single detail of this.

He’s already war, gained it out the way we do in our fin limitations, and God knows exactly who’s going to do what and when they’re going to do it. The thing that we have to remember is God’s going to win. That’s inevitable. Even Satan ultimately realizes that we don’t always have to understand what he does or how he does it. Our job is to believe it and trust him and to trust in what he tells us. I don’t put my faith in politicians because they almost always disappoint or deceive and only Christ can save us. That’s where we have to put our trust in our faith. We have to work to reach people with the good news. We also have to reach them with facts and information that can help them understand. I love the saying, the Hebrew Jehovah Jireh, our God will provide. And I think that if we work through that perspective and we look at that through the lens of understanding who God is, what he’s done, I’ve said this before, that a God who has fulfilled all of his promises in the past and everything in the Bible that we can point to archeologists, scientists, mathematicians, everyone is finding out that everything in the Bible that they can prove has been proven to be true.

Then I have to believe that what it says about the future is going to be just as true. I trust that I have my faith in that, not in politicians, not in countries, not in militaries. I have my faith in God. That’s where we win is when we think the right way. We put things into the right context and we never lose sight of keeping the main thing, the main thing. If we work to carry out the great commission, which God has challenged us to do, then we will make an impact in our communities. We’ll make an impact in our churches. We’ll make an impact in our families and with our friends. No one can be expected to do more than that. I want God to find me faithful and working to reach the people I know and love when he returns and he is coming. And Sam, I think he’s coming soon. I don’t know the time of the day, no one does, but what I can see are the signs. I can discern the times and the seasons. The Bible tells us that just like semen can look at the sky and tell you what the weather’s going to be by looking at the signs in the sky, the Bible tells us that we should be able to look at the signs of the times and see what’s coming.

Sam Rohrer:

There you go.

JR McGee:

If you can’t see these signs, you’re not paying attention. I want him to find as faithful and working to reach people when he comes, Sam,

Sam Rohrer:

There we go. Amen. JR and I would agree fully with that. Ladies and gentlemen. I hope that that was an encouragement to you because we can talk about big issues, we can talk about the important things that are happening as long as we keep the most important things, God’s word and what he says for us keeps it first. Keep that priority in place. Well, I’m ready for the Lord to return and I’m also ready to give a witness to those about us. I hope that you are too.