The Truth about Vitamins, Supplements, and MRNA Flu Shots

The Truth about Vitamins, Supplements, and MRNA Flu Shots

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Dr. Lee Vliet

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 8/27/26. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Thursday edition of Stand in the Gap Today, and it’s also a recurring feature on what I call health stewardship today. Now, when we look at the landscape of public health today, and we do regularly on this program, we are confronted with a fundamental, I’m going to say crisis, and that is a breakdown of trust. The COVID lie we now know, and increasingly before Congress testimony is put forth proving that it was a lie, but the COVID lie and the disaster that accompanied it in one fell swoop did more to expose the deception, the corruption, the lawlessness, and downright evil of perhaps any single event. And it continues. For decades, the American public were conditioned to believe that government health agencies, administrative bureaus and regulatory bodies existed primarily to protect consumer wellbeing and to offer impartial evidence-based guidance. Yet in recent years, what has been laid bare is that the deep entanglements between federal regulators, pharmaceutical interest, and institutional policy have collided.

From shifting guidelines to fast tracked approvals, standard government recommendations can no longer be accepted without rigorous independent examination. And that means taking personal responsibility for our health, for your health. It requires moving away from just blind to compliance because somebody in government said it towards, I’m going to call it informed stewardship. Now, if we cannot simply take official directives at face value and we can’t, then where do we turn? Seeking alternative health solutions, integrative medical insights, I’m going to call it, and time tested modalities, approaches to how things are be done is no longer just an optional lifestyle preference. It’s a necessary component of defending your bodily autonomy and long-term wellbeing. And with that being established, joining me today to help us navigate these critical health matters as Dr. Lee Vliet. Dr. Lee is a preventative medicine specialist. She’s been with me many times before.

She’s an active voice for patient rights and the president and CEO of the Truth for Health Foundation. And with that, Dr. Lee, welcome back to the program. It’s sure good to have you back. Dr. Lee, are you still there? You have yourself on mute.

Lee Vliet:

Thank you, Pastor Sam. It’s always good to be back with you. Yes, I muted it so I wouldn’t interrupt your intro.

Sam Rohrer:

Well, that’s good. I’m glad you’re there. So let’s get right into it because let me go right here as we lay out some foundational things before getting into the actual theme of today’s program, ladies and gentlemen, is this, the truth about vitamins, supplements and MRNA flu shots. Yeah, all of those I know are of interest to all of you. But Lee, let’s go here. Dr. Lee, why has it become so hazardous for Americans to just blindly follow government health recommendations? And I’m going to say this, what mindset shift is required for individuals who want to properly steward their own health to take charge of their own medical choices?

Lee Vliet:

Well, that’s a two part question. Number one, it’s become extremely risky to trust what the public health officials tell us because they simply are not telling us the truth. They are lying about safety and effectiveness of new medications and injections called vaccines that they have approved. They’re not disclosing fully about the ingredient changes or in adjuvants that are in them. So unfortunately people, I’ve watched this over my career, it’s gotten worse and worse and it has escalated in severity with the launch of explosive launch of the tyrannical launch of the experimental gene therapy COVID shots that the public was lied to about the lack of clinical studies, the lack of reporting of adverse effects and vaccine injuries. So I think in order for people to take care of their health, which is God given and a biblical duty, the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, which lives in us and through which we do God’s work in this world.

So for us to show proper stewardship, we have to engage our God given brain to think through what are they not telling us? And we also have to be proactive to go to other resources, which is what I’ve been doing over my career, Pastor Sam. I’ve always spent over my career of 45 years in medicine, I have exposed where our clinical studies were limited. Early on, they didn’t have women in the studies. Later on, they were covering up the fraudulent design and the flaws in the design of the women’s health initiative when they demonized hormones and said estrogen caused cancer when it didn’t. I mean, it’s just been one thing after another over my whole career. And COVID was the most egregious example of that. And this new mRNA flu shot is a horrific example because they haven’t even finished the clinical study. It won’t be ready until 2030 on this accelerated approval guideline for the elderly, which is just shocking.

And yet there was all this fanfare about, oh, the FDA has now approved the mRNA flu vaccine. And they are exaggerating the safety, they’re exaggerating the effectiveness, and they’re doing manipulative numbers with the statistics, which I outline in detail in the article that I wrote that’s on our website, the one that you saw.

Sam Rohrer:

Yes. Okay. And Dr. Lee, hold that right there because I want to get into something else. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to go more into those subjects in the next segments, but let me come back and ask you this because mainstream medical, the governmental, the institutionalized push and increasingly what they call standardized care, one size fits all. Here’s my question. And they do not like alternative medicine. They don’t like other options. So here’s my question. How does integrative and alternative medicine solutions of which you are part, you’re a pioneer and a leader, how does that offer a, I would say safer or more effective path for personal health stewardship?

Lee Vliet:

Well, it’s very personalized because each patient is individually evaluated according to what is their medical history, what’s their family history of risk factors for serious disease, what are the current symptoms? And then an individualized approach to laboratory studies is designed and imaging studies where needed. And then we go over that individually with each patient and I show them where their deficiencies and problem areas are in terms of, let’s say, like the patient I saw yesterday had a deficiency of iron, B12, vitamin D and zinc. These are all critical for optimal health and they played a role in her fatigue and her trouble sleeping.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay. And with that, Dr. Lee, just hold it there. So ladies and gentlemen, when their proper pursuit of alternative integrative medicine, a person can, with the right physician, because not all of them understand that like Dr. Lee does today, actually can do a better job of tailor making and addressing your health needs. So Lee, when we come back, we’re going to go back to and speak about the MRA technology on the flu shot. Well, if you’re just joining us, welcome aboard. We are now heading into our second segment today, having introduced the program. The title, the theme today is this, The Truth About Vitamins, Supplements, and MRNA Flu Shots. All right. We’re going to talk about that now in this segment, flu shots that is. And my guest today is returning guest, Dr. Lee Vliet. She’s the president and the CEO of Truth for Health Foundation.

And their website is truthforhealth.org. Now, a number of things about which we’re going to be speaking in the program today, you will be able to find at that website of truthforhealth.org, and I’ll give that again. Now in this segment, again, as I said, we’re going to turn our attention to the latest developments in, I’m going to call seasonal vaccines. If you’re at all aware, and if you’ve walked into a local Walmart, if you’ve walked into a lot of places like that, there’ll be free shots all over. So many of you have already seen it. You may have gotten something in the mail. Maybe you’ve had your own doctor tell you, you need to get something, however. But here’s a question we’re going to deal with it. A lot’s being done. A careful narrative has been established and there’s a push for not just a flu shot, but a newly approved one.

And it’s important that there is both transparency and truth needed, and I’m going to call as this highly politicized and corrupted sphere of modern medicine, which we just talked about in the last segment. Now, while the FDA’s approval, Food and Drug Administration’s, while their approval and analysis procedures have generally lessened, that’s generally known, it’s lessened, they’ve lowered the bar and becoming far more politicized than objective truth-based, this forfeiting of, I’m going to say their ethical role of justice. Anyone in government has an ethical role to tell the truth, to be objective, to measure out justice, not to be ever bribed or corrupted. That’s the nature of the way God designed government, but that’s not the way it’s happening. And so the patient first priority has shifted. And as a result, the testing process put in place to make sure that there’s no doubt about whether or not something that’s improved, a shot or whatever is going to be helpful or potentially harmful, not just today, but maybe next week or maybe five years down the road.

That’s what’s happening. And right now there’s very insufficient, and as Dr. Lee said in the last segment, very short testing approvals for what is called gene-based platforms. That’s the mRNA part of it. Well, one of the most recent and disturbing because of who it affects is the FDA approval of the new mRNA seasonal flu formulation like M. Fluciva. And Dr. Lee, you’ve written about it and an article which people can find is on your website at truthforhealth.org. Now for decades, ladies and gentlemen, seasonal flu shots relied on, I’m going to say traditional inactivated or activated or egg-based delivery methods. But today, public health authorities are moving towards sweeping integration of mRNA technology across routine immunizations, often as Dr. Lee said, with minimal long-term safety data or public debate. And I’m going to just skip some of the other and get right into it and let you expand further upon this, Dr.

Lee. And here’s the question. What are the primary medical concerns surrounding, as you said, the fast tracked approval of mRNA-based flu vaccines as compared to traditional of which most people are aware and our listeners today? And you might want to put in there as well, when you say gene-based and mRNA, what is primarily different about that and perhaps unknown as well when it comes to vaccines?

Lee Vliet:

Well, there are several questions in there. Number one, what’s primarily different is that these new mRNA injections are designed for the mRNA genetic material to be reverse transcribed into the DNA to direct your body DNA to continue to make the foreign proteins, which include in COVID shot, for example, the spike protein, which is why people continue to make that after they stop getting the COVID shots. So that’s one of the big differences. The other big difference is that these also have a lipid nanoparticle coating around the mRNA, which itself causes inflammatory and other reactions, vascular damage, immune reactions in the body. And that’s been studied for years, but the public does not understand that it’s not just the mRNA and spike protein, it’s also these toxic lipid nanoparticles. So those are a couple of quick, big issues. I’ve done many, many programs and articles on all of this.

But the concern here with this mRNA flu shot is that they rushed it out. First of all, the FDA originally refused to hear Moderna’s or even consider Moderna’s application because the clinical trial design did not meet the standards to give adequate data analysis and adequate review. And then with political pressure on some of the loss of some of the leadership at the top of the FDA who were standing in the way of Moderna’s agenda, suddenly the same data that failed to be considered the first time was suddenly approved for rollout of this mRNA flu shot in those over 50 and an accelerated approval in those over 65. The accelerated approval, while it sounds like a good thing, is actually very detrimental to the older people over 65 because it means the highest risk group is getting pushed to get the shot with the least amount of data to show its safety and effectiveness.

And what is happening is that that accelerated approval means the company doesn’t have to provide anything more than this preliminary one clinical study in one flu season. And the rest of the study isn’t due until 2030 for completion. So people are being told by their doctors, which is why I’m so angry at my profession, just acting like robots and telling everybody to take these new shots without any safety information. And then the other thing that made me just furious as a physician, they market the risk, what they say is that it’s a high risk flu situation and yet influenza is a fairly treatable, easy to treat illness if you catch it early. And if we take some basic common sense things, we’ll talk about. But in the marketing, they are saying, “Oh, this new vaccine is 27% more effective.” But they are using statistical manipulation to come up with that number

And they’re using something called relative vaccine efficiency. And what matters to the individual person, you, is the absolute risk reduction. Let me quickly tell your listeners what that means. If you do the proper calculations, your absolute risk reduction with this new experimental, no data essentially shot that you’re being told to put in your body, the only risk reduction you’re going to get is 0.8 percentage points. And I go through the math in the article on my website. So in other words, you’re only getting a risk reduction in influenza of less than 1%. And you’re being asked to take a new experimental product that has had in the one study they did, a higher risk, much higher risk of common side effects, injection site pain, fatigue, muscle aches, headaches, and even more alarming increase in serious side effects that that was six times higher than in the comparison group using standard flu shots.

They didn’t have a placebo arm. They just compared it with the standard flu shot. And these mRNA flu shots had six times more severe of the severe adverse reactions. And there were 23 deaths in this mRNA flu shot arm compared to less than half of that in the standard vaccine group. So I think people are being lied to about the effectiveness, lied to about the safety when the clinical trials aren’t even due to be finished for four more

Sam Rohrer:

Years. Okay. And Dr. Lee, you’ve laid out a lot. We’re now about to end. Let me just ask you a question. I’ve never had a flu shot. I think we’re talking about you’ve never taken one. It sounds to me you haven’t given anybody any reason to consider taking a new mRNA flu shot that changes your DNA forever and makes effects and causes who knows what, never been tested. Should anybody at all even consider taking an MRA flu shot? I

Lee Vliet:

Think so. We have 11 FDA approved standard flu vaccines. If someone has been getting flu shots and wants to continue getting flu shots, we have 11 approved traditional vaccines they can choose from. They don’t need to take the risk of this new mRNA shot.

Sam Rohrer:

All right.

Lee Vliet:

I really am concerned about that. And no, I haven’t taken a flu shot because I didn’t think it was needed.

Sam Rohrer:

All right, ladies and gentlemen, if we’re going to talk a little bit about that, for instance, can you do anything to help you of an assessment not have to even consider taking a flu shot? That’s where we’re going to get into vitamins and supplements. Why? How to take them, considerations about how to approach all of that. We’re going to deal with them in the next two seconds. Stay with us. All right. Well, welcome back. We’re going to now shift gears from our focus in the last segment on the MRNA, what they call a novel or a new developed injection for flu. And I’m not going to go back and repeat that, but you can find far more information than what we were able to go over on my guest’s website. Her name is Dr. Lee Vliet. She’s the president and the founder, CEO of Truth for Health Foundation.

And that article, among many others, can be found at truthforhealth.org website. And if you just look for MRNA flu shot, you’ll be able to find it. It’s quite easy. And I would encourage you to do that for more information. Now, beyond that, there are things that can be done on a proactive or positive solution basis. And we talked a little bit in the first segment about it. And that’s whether you call it alternative medicine or integrative medicine. It’s a different approach, certainly different than what anybody in the federal government wants to talk about or a pharmaceutical company will talk to you about or anybody like that who’s in business of taking a different direction. But a foundational element of taking charge of your health, my health is essential and involves the proper use of high quality, because not all are high quality, but high quality nutritional supplements.

We’re going to talk about that here. However, and this is the point and one of the reasons I wanted Dr. Lee on with me today is this. Simply taking a handful of vitamins every morning, which a lot of people do. I mean, I take vitamins, but just taking a handful of them all at one time, choking them down and then say, “Well, I’ve done what I need,” is not necessarily a good thing. It may not give you at all what you’re intending. So Dr. Lee has a guide. It’s a guide to supplement smart, she calls it. You will find it on that website, the truthforhealth.org. And some of that information we are going to now consider. So Dr. Lee, let’s go right into this. Most people listening to me right now, no doubt, take some vitamins. They take some supplements. You may want to define it briefly.

What’s the difference, if there is any. And why is timing, here’s a key one. Why is the timing of taking these daily supplements so critical? Which essential minerals, for instance, must be spaced apart from one from another in order to allow for absorption? Because who cares if you take something, you swallow and your body doesn’t absorb it. So speak a little bit to that, please.

Lee Vliet:

Absolutely. Pastor Sam, thank you. The timing is really critical because there are certain vitamins, minerals, in particular iron and calcium are two big examples that interfere with certain medicines in particular thyroid. In addition to that, there are certain vitamins, minerals, and the vitamin D, which is technically a hormone, not a vitamin, that are important to take at certain times of the day with food, with some fat in the diet that can help the fat soluble vitamins be absorbed. And then others are sensitive to whether or not you have enough gastric acid to absorb them. So if you take proton pump inhibitors, you can’t take certain minerals around that because then thyroid and minerals don’t get absorbed well when you lower the stomach acid on proton pump inhibitors. So there are a lot of actual medication interactions and interactions between the various vitamins that play a role in how well they work.

And that I always start with my patients in checking not only their history of symptoms and what they’re experiencing. I look at past labs. I also get current labs because I want to know if they have some deficiencies that need to be addressed, that’s going to determine some of the timing and the design of what they need to take. And my work is really integrative medicine, not alternative because I practice good. I’m grounded in traditional Western medicine. I use good research in the reputable scientific research, not the government sponsored narrative research. And I’ve always integrated diet, exercise, our faith, our vitamins, our minerals, meditation, prayer, body work, all of these things. To me, that’s integrative. It’s not one or the other. It’s not an alternative. So looking at the lab test, here’s a great example. Women are often told, “Well, you’re past menopause. You don’t need iron.” They never look at the woman’s iron stores.

And most women arrive at. I’ve checked ferritin my whole career and most women arrive at menopause very low in their iron stores because they’ve been losing iron over their years of menstruation. Monthly blood loss, you lose a lot of iron. And if you’re not eating meat, you don’t replace it. So I always start with that because one of the most important things that affects what else you take and when you take it is whether you need to take iron or not. If you do, that affects the timing of a lot of other things. If you’re on thyroid medicine, that affects when you take a lot of other things. Thyroid, for example, needs to be separated by at least four hours from any iron supplement, calcium supplements in particular. And if you take calcium and magnesium in a combination tablet, you preferentially absorb calcium, you don’t get enough magnesium, and then you have more constipation, more calcium deposits in the soft tissue.

And so consequently, I always insist that my patients, if they take calcium supplements, which for the most part I don’t any longer recommend because I encourage people to get it from real food, even if you’re lactose intolerant, you can normally do quite well with fermented goat’s milk tefer where the lactose is no longer a problem or yogurt. And you get lots of good calcium in dairy products, particularly aged or fermented ones that have less sugar lactose. So you’ve got a lot of options.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay. Let me ask you this, Dr. Lee. For instance, you’re talking about timing, whether it be first thing in the morning, empty stomach, maybe, middle of the day, perhaps away from a prescription drug as an example. Here’s a question. A lot of people would say, “All right, well that makes sense to me, but how do I find this out? How do I know and intuitively or whatever, know what’s a fat soluble vitamin or compared to about zinc and about this and about the other things, you talked about blood work, but talk to me about that. What role does blood work involve?” Meaning they got to find a physician who’s going to be able to do that. Speak to that just briefly, only about three minutes left. Speak to that a little bit briefly. And if they go to your website and the article you wrote on this, can they find specific help in reading over that and comparing against what they’re doing?

Lee Vliet:

I want to clarify something. People do not have to have a physician order these vitamin levels. You can go online to Quest Diagnostics patient, select a test, cash pay. You can order their vitamin profile. You can order it yourself. You can take my article and look at where I give you the guidelines on what some of the optimal levels are, not just the lab reference range. LabCorp has a patient self order option. So people can get very proactive with this. Take the ball in your own hands. You go online and order your own vitamin profile. You get the order, you go to the lab, you have them draw the blood, you get the report, then you discuss it with your doctor. If your doctor’s refusing to order these, I think that’s negligent medical care. That’s my opinion. I’ve always ordered them. I think it’s important that we do that and give people the information they need to make decisions.

So that’s number one. Number two, in my guide to supplement smarts, the importance of timing, which is on my website, it’s free. I don’t have a paywall. And you can go on, print that article and write down what you’re taking, look at all of the guidelines I give you step by step. This is when you can take zinc. This is when you can take your magnesium. Magnesium, vitamin B, vitamin D are great to take at bedtime because they are involved in the sleep pathways. They’re going to improve your sleep regulation. So if you are taking a B complex, taking it at night along with magnesium and then magnesium at night also helps your bowels work better in the morning and take it away from the calcium. So I have all of these specific steps in this article so that you can sit down. If you’re not getting these answers from your own healthcare professionals, and a lot of them just don’t know it, they are not interested in studying And they don’t take time to go over it.

You need to be the proactive one. Remember, the Bible tells us be transformed by the renewing of your mind. So we need use our brain that God gave us to take charge of our health.

Sam Rohrer:

All right. And that’s excellent. I think that’s probably very helpful, matter of fact, to people who are listening. Just the idea that you could go to the Quest site that you talked about and on your own, pay cash. And we talk about that on this program a lot about the value of paying cash for health services and actually getting blood work done and then taking that, ladies and gentlemen, to your physician. My own personal position that I’ve had on the program a number of times, we talked about the last time of having an informed patient is a big help to a good physician. That’s not competition. So anyways, excellent, Dr. Lee. When we come back, ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to talk about taking this information and building what I’m calling a daily health routine.

All right. Well, we’re about to go into our final segment. And before I do, which I said we’re going to hear, I’m going to talk to Dr. Lee Vliet, my guest again today, to help us help you build out the concept of what we could call a daily health routine, because getting into a routine is important for all of us. And then some actionable takeaways. We’ve talked about some big things today, MRNA, vaccines as example, flu shots specifically, which everybody’s being pressured right now. So you need to know about what to do on that. We talked about that segment two. The beginning of the program, we talked generally about why it’s so critical you don’t just accept without thinking. I mean, nothing. We shouldn’t do anything without thinking, but you get my point. But just because somebody in the government, federal government or the national health or anybody that’s down there, FDA, not just to say, “Well, here comes their recommendation.

It’s got to be true.” No, no, no, no, no, no. We learned from COVID. If nothing else, no, compromise, bribery, other issues are well standing in the way of truth. So you’ve got to think for yourself. We’re commanded biblically to do that, but we see now more evidence of that. So we talked about that. And then the last segment, about the use of supplements and the importance of understanding the timing and which are taken in combination with others and all of that. Now, both the flu shot piece and the supplements, you can find the articles in their entirety where Dr. Lee puts in background information in addition to the specifics you can find on her website at truthforhealth.org. So you just look for the supplements, you can see that or flu shot query that and you will find what we’re talking about. And I would encourage you to go that direction.

Now let’s go into this Dr. Lee, because true health stewardship, you talk about that. I talk about it as well. The people who fear God, we understand stewardship. That’s why God’s given us a brain. We need to use it. We pray for wisdom. We’re supposed to pray for wisdom if we need it and we all need it, but that’s built on knowledge. But then you got to act on that knowledge followed by consistency, intentionality, making choices. But by structuring a simple morning, dinner and a bedtime routine, for example, for, I’m going to say targeted nutritional support, you can strengthen your body’s natural defense systems without relying on continuous medical interventions or annual injections like flus, as an example. So you talk a lot about constructing a daily wellness schedule, maintaining natural immune strength and exercising, personal responsibility, all of those things. So based on that, how can our listeners actually structure a straightforward daily schedule from morning to bedtime, a routine that is not burdensome but reasonable that optimizes vitamin and mineral intake for maximum immune support?

How can you do that?

Lee Vliet:

Well, first of all, there is no one set schedule that works for everyone because it has to do with what medicines you take and what your needs are. So in the article that I outlined, I walk you through how to address those questions for you as an individual and how to get started. I also have in the flu shot article, I have a list at the end, I have a list of action steps. If you prefer not to take a flu shot, and certainly I urge you not to start going down the road of this experimental mRNA flu shot that has more side effects and more risk, then I have a section called My Recommendations to Boost Your Immune System and Help Prevent Influenza Infection. And I have 16 steps you can print out and put on your refrigerator and use that as we go into flu season and follow those suggestions.

Secondly, in the article on the supplement guide, I have a chart that shows you what I call my resilience formula. I’ve put this together over many years, lots of research, lots of work with lots of patients and the core vitamins that address all six classes of damage, inflammatory damage from COVID, viral illness, cold shots, any of the other problems, the chronic damage from diabetes and metabolic syndrome and all of the chronic health conditions. The six classes of damage are inflammation, vascular damage, immune dysfunction, oxidative stress, intercellular ion flow, and endocrine disruption. And I have a list of 10 major vitamins that are critical that address all six classes of damage. A good multivitamin, vitamin C with bioflavonoids, vitamin D3, vitamin E, K2, magnesium, mitochondrial ergothionine, which is a mitochondrial booster, N-acetylcysteine, a probiotic and zinc. That’s your core. And then you get the lab test and you check what deficiencies you may have on top of that and then add to that.

And it’s a very systematic approach. There doesn’t have to be a lot of guesswork and a lot of buying bottles of things that you don’t know whether you need or just throwing things together because somebody said take this. I mean, I had a patient yesterday, a new patient, I had her blood level of vitamin D, which was 34, which is way too low. It’s increased risk of infections, increased risk of bone loss, depression, fatigue, all the things that vitamin D benefits. And the studies consistently over many years have shown that level should be up in the optimal range of 70 to 80 on the scale. The person’s physician assistant, not a doctor, but her physician assistant, someone with two years of training said, “Oh, well, you can’t say 4,000 at one time. That’s too much.” Never looked at the lab, never looked at the symptoms the person was having.

And so I said to the person, “I’m looking at your blood level. I’m looking at what you’re telling me. I’m telling you what the data shows about how vitamin D plays a role in that. It’s not the dose that’s important. It’s what your blood level is and how your body is absorbing it and whether it can use it.” So everything needs, you’ve got to use the thinking to protect your health. You can’t just follow what these automaton robots in the healthcare system these days are telling you, “Well, the guidelines say you should do this or the guidelines say that dose is too much.” There are people that get 10,000 units of vitamin D going out in the sun for an hour at midday if you have your skin exposed. So to take 4,000 units as a supplement is not too big a dose unless you have a toxic blood level, but you got to do the blood level to find out.

So Pastor Sam, I really want to encourage people, all you have to do is go to our website, click on the button on the homepage that says Dr. Vliet’s health tips and scroll back through all these different topics. I do a new one every single week. They’re free for the public as part of our public charity service. I volunteer my time to do it and I do the research myself. I’m writing them myself. I’m not using AI to write the article. I’m using God’s given brain and the abilities he’s given me to share it with others to help you combat the false narratives that are wrecking your health.

Sam Rohrer:

And with that, Dr. Lee, we’re out of time and your organization is appropriately named truthforhealth.org. Ladies and gentlemen, you can remember that. So go there, look at the things of which we talked today. And we all, I encourage us all, pray for wisdom. Look at James said, if you let me lacking wisdom, pray for it. Pray for wisdom, pray for discernment. God’s given us an ability to think, use knowledge, truth based knowledge. Then you go from there and then you put the results in God’s hands. Thank you for being with us today. God bless you all.