The Vaccine Gold Standard Illusion
Sept. 21, 2026
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Dr. Sherry Tenpenny
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 9/21/26. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.
Sam Rohrer:
Hello, and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand in the Gap Today. Now, normally on Mondays, I address in some fashion the leading global, geopolitical, economic media or technological events, which almost always are scheduled to occur over the weekends when most people’s attention are turned elsewhere. And of a certainty, this weekend was no different. Today, however, though, I want to turn our focus inward to a matter of critical health importance, an ongoing domestic issue, one of them that’s ongoing, that reaches right into the heart of American home, affecting parental rights, religious freedom, and bodily stewardship. The title I’ve chosen to frame our discussion today is this, the Vaccine Gold Standard Illusion. And joining me again is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. She’s a board certified osteopathic medical doctor, founder of the Tenpenny Integrative Medical Center near Cleveland, Ohio, and a leading voice for health freedom, a person whose work has attracted patients literally from all the 50 states and over 17 countries.
Now, when we talk about standard setters and matters of health policy, that generally refers to an institutional framework built over a century ago. What I’m sharing here right now is some research that I collected and saying, right, who have been the standard setters? Well, some will go back to the 1910 Flexner report as an example and corporate philanthropy that consolidated medical education to professional guilds, for instance, like the AMA and federal bureaucracies like what is now the NIH, Institute of Health, or FDA or the CDC. And historically, these entities established a centralized pharmaceutical driven paradigm as the gold standard for American medicine. And as long as objective truth prevailed, some standards were reliable, but as selfish corporate interests aligned with bribed government officials, all of which we see just big time in our day, these standards became increasingly corrupted. Under the long direction of figures like Dr. Anthony Fauci, we all remember him, these legacy institutions relied on primarily fear during viral outbreaks, such as localized measles spikes that we’re seeing now in order to force public compliance and bypass the part that ought to be maintained and protected, and that is informed consent. Now, again, joining us is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, and I want to put down here and just invite her in right now. Sherry, thank you. Dr. Tenpenny, thanks for being back with me again. You’ve been with me many times in the past, but these issues today, I think people will particularly like your inputs. Anyway, thanks for being with me.
Sherry Tenpenny:
Thank you so much for inviting me, Sam. Glad to be here.
Sam Rohrer:
Dr. Tenpenny, across America, and let’s put it this way, those behind writing media content, I’m going to put it that way, have been trying their best to instill fear over occurrences of this matter of measles. And everybody listening to me right now have heard it over and over again. However, according to CDC, the data as of this morning, I just looked, I checked and pulled this together, there are only 35 to 45. They’re saying reported cases over the last three months. And I asked for an historical analysis and it represents an infinitesimally small 0.01 historical variance going all the way back to 1963, which says to me, what’s the big deal? So in your opinion, why the fear mongering? And are measles a disease to be avoided at all costs, including taking more altered vaccinations, which seems to be what the establishment is wanting to promote?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, I’m glad you brought that up, Sam. And I’ve said on multiple, on my own shows, my own podcasts, and also when I’ve been guests on other people’s shows, measles is not Ebola. Measles is not rabies. I mean, measles is a fever, a cough, a rash, something that’s called desquamation of the skin, which means after you’ve had a fever of. It’s usually a higher fever, like 103, 104 for several days. When the fever breaks, you get this desquamation, which is like a peeling off of the skin on the palms of your hands and the soles of your feet, really superficially, almost like a blister. And that technically ends when you still have measles. And then you have a lifetime of immunity for measles in particular. We know that people that have had natural measles infections have a lower incidence of diabetes, a lower incidence of brain tumors, have a lower incidence of cardiovascular disease.
Years ago, they used to talk about measles was the rite of passage illness, kind of like chicken pox, that most kids got somewhere between eight, nine and 11 years of age, that what it did really, the high fever locked in the basement membranes of your organs and really separated for your immune system the distinction between self and non-self. What is self that your immune system should not attack like autoimmune diseases and other types of auto conditions? And what was non-self, which you got from an exposure to a cut or being around somebody who was sick or whatever, that was something that your immune system should say, “That doesn’t belong here. Let’s get rid of it.” And that solidifying of what the measles infection did really particularly helped to seal in the basement membranes in your kidneys. In fact, many, many years ago, like back in the 1940s, when children had something called nephrotic syndrome, which means that their kidneys were leaky and they leaked out protein into the urine that wasn’t supposed to be there, they used to expose them to measles or induce measles because after the measles infection, it would heal up their kidney basement membranes.
So we’ve got this irrational fear that is hyped by the media that, oh my goodness, it’s measles, your kids are going to die. When the truth of the matter is the death rate, and I’ve got the original documents to show this, the death rate from measles in 1962 was two per million. The measles vaccine wasn’t introduced to the general public until 1963. So even before we had a vaccine, the death rate of measles was minuscule. And so it’s just a way for public health to have something to do and keep stirring the pot and stirring up the reason we need to vaccinate is the vaccination rates going down, we’re going to get measles. Yay, I think that’s probably a better thing than not. And it’s a way to take Secretary Robert F. Kennedy to task and constantly saying he’s going to have blood in his hands and all this other nonsensical stuff.
And I just wish that parents would do a little bit of reading about measles and understand what the infection really is, why it’s actually important to your health. Sam, I found in some articles that were published in the early 1990s that compared the breast milk of women who had had a natural measles infection compared to the breast milk of women who had had the MMR vaccine. And they did this study in Africa because measles is still relatively prevalent in Africa and children under the age of three months. It is a more serious infection than after they get older. And they found that women who had had real measles, their antibodies were higher concentrations and stronger and longer lasting than women who had had the MMR.
Sam Rohrer:
All right. And that’s excellent. And ladies and gentlemen, I hope that you’ve been intrigued by that so far. We’re going to move from measles now into the second segment talking about the gold standard. There was an executive order signed setting a gold standard, they call it, for vaccine schedule. We’ll talk about that. Well, if you’re just joining us today, welcome aboard. The theme today is this, the vaccine gold standard illusion. And we’re going to talk about that in this next segment. My guest today, I’m glad to have her back with me, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. She has a website at drdrtenpenny.com. She does a lot of speaking, a lot of writing on key issues relative to health and all of that. And you can find it on that site. And so I would recommend that you would visit that if you are interested. And I think all the information we’re talking about today is practical and certainly relevant.
Now in the last segment, Dr. Tenpenny and I examined the historical playbook, so to speak, of how fear narratives around localized outbreaks like measles. That’s one thing that’s happening now. It’s used by media and public health hierarchies to. Well, we didn’t get too much into that last segment, but we’ll go further, but to push compliance, they want their way. And that always, whenever government wants to push its way, what’s in the interest of those who are in that setting, it always comes counter, almost always to where the authority really lies. And that’s either with the citizens or when it comes to health, the individual, when it comes to children, parents, informed consent. So we’ll build these things as we go into it. Now that being the case, I want to turn our attention right now, as I mentioned, to a major recent policy development coming directly out of Washington.
It was on August the 10th, just a month or so ago here now where President Trump signed executive order 14420 that they entitled Delivering Gold Standard Childhood Vaccine Recommendations for Americans. Okay, that’s the big long title, but 14420, and you can search it and find it. But this order was signed ostensibly to overhaul the federal immunization schedule by trimming the core universally recommended vaccines from a total of 18 diseases down to 11 and shifting shots like hepatitis B, flu, COVID-19 to a what they call “shared decision making” category. And then proposing to, as they term, unbundle combination shots, also known as multi-valent cocktails. And there’s a number of names like, but you get the idea when you go in as a baby, you get a whole bunch of shots altogether, that’s what we’re talking about, and separating the multi-disease MMR vaccine into individual single dose shots administered over separate visits.
And while proponents claim that this offers parents more flexibility and realigns the US with international peer standards, I think the logical question must be asked, and that is, does realigning federal schedules such as is in this executive order, under bundling shots or labeling a government policy as a “gold standard”, does that truly fix the core issues of what I’m going to say is presumed vaccine efficacy? I mean, do they even work? Vaccine safety, cumulative exposure, informed consent and so forth, or does it simply create an illusion of reform while actually leaving the underlying system intact? So Dr. Tenpenny, from an integrative medical standpoint, here’s my question. Does unbundling combination shots like MMR as an example into three separate single disease visits, does that address the fundamental concerns regarding cumulative adjuvants, that’s the vaccines, ingredients and immune system impacts, or does splitting up the schedule simply preserve the core premise that vaccines are necessary while changing the timeline and not actually getting down to the point of do vaccines actually even work?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Wow, that’s a lot to unpack there, Sam. It’s about 10 questions in one.
Sam Rohrer:
I know. So you take and go wherever you want. But to me, when I was thinking that, these are all connected. So somehow put it together if you can.
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, part of it is part of the bundling together of these vaccines, for example, they’ve got five in one shots now, six in one shots like PediaRix and various other ones where they have bundled together like hepatitis B, DPT, hepatitis A, et cetera. They put them all in one shot and that started probably back in the early 2000s because when a parent would take their child in for a well baby check, which turned out to be essentially just a vaccination day, because parents know whether their kids are sick or not, they don’t need to take them in to have somebody tell you, “Yes, your child is not sick.” They know. And so when the nurse would walk into the room, there would be five, six, seven different syringes laying on the tray and the parents would go, “Wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What are we doing here? Why are we giving so many of these injections at the same time?” And they started refusing more and more and more of the shots. So the pharmaceutical industry got cute and decided that it would be better if we combined all five of those vaccines into just one shot so the nurse could go in and say, “You’re just getting one vaccine today,” when essentially they were getting five to seven vaccines that had been combined into one injection. And so now they’re talking about unbundling those and giving individual separate shots. We’re kind of coming full circle to what they tried to fix 20 years ago. And also when you unbundle them, you end up with more adjuvants, more chemicals than you would if you had them all in one thing. So they’re kind of defeating the purpose. The thing with splitting up measles, mumps, rubella, and chickenpox is because all four of those are live virus vaccines.
And it has been shown over and over again when you inject multiple live viruses into a child at the same time, it exponentially increases the amount of inflammation and therefore the amount of side effects and complications. The MMR has been together for a very long time, since the ’60s. Then they started adding chickenpox to that maybe 10 years ago. But the ProQuad vaccine, which is MMR plus chickenpox, has been on and off the market several times for reformulation because it increased the incidence of seizures of having all four of those together. So in theory, I say, giving them individually may be less risky. However, it also increases the amount of chemicals and live viruses don’t have adjuvants in them, but the DPT does. We went from giving people a tetanus shot when they cut their arm or their leg when they went to the ER from a TT or a DT tetanus shot.
So now every time you go, you must get a pertussis shot with that, which is really unnecessary for most people. So they’re talking about re-splitting it back up into tetanus and pertussis being separate. So they’re just trying to jiggle the problem of injecting poisons into children and adults and somehow trying to make injectable poisons safer by spreading them out because really we are still just injecting poisons into people’s bodies ostensibly to make them healthy, but there is a long list of complications and side effects and you can get the injection and get the infection anyways, which goes to your point about efficacy and do they really work? All
Sam Rohrer:
Right. Now, not a whole lot of time here, but I’d like your comment on this, but there are some, and I’ve read some studies, I know you’ve done a lot of work on it, in that vaccines, maybe any, I want to comment any, maybe, or at least some are actually at the root of creating autoimmune disease because anything injected into a body, and I don’t know whether it’s live or dead or both, creates a circumstance with the immune system that ends up perhaps fueling a lot of this autoimmune disease that we have. Comment on that.
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, yes, because whenever you inject something foreign into the body, remember I said that measles years ago used to be able to solidify your immune system into self versus non-self versus self, which is a stuff that’s supposed to be there and non-self is stuff that’s not supposed to be there. So when you inject things into the body, it’s not supposed to be there. And for years, I even though back in the day when I was still a board certified emergency medicine doctor working full-time and the director of a level two trauma center for 12 years, I’d never really looked into this vaccination thing because when I graduated from medical school, there were only three vaccines. Now there are 16 and I never really looked into it. And I just thought it was just a little attenuated virus, maybe a little particle of a bacteria and a little bit of sterile water.
That’s what I though a vaccine was until now after 50,000 hours of research over 26 years, I know better. I know about all the chemicals and the foreign proteins and the animal cells and the cells from aborted fetal tissue, cells from dog kidney cells and the blood from the serum of cows and chickens and things like that. There’s all kinds of nasty ingredients inside that little clear vial. All of those things are foreign. They should not be in the body at all and they should not be injected because there’s a distinct difference between injecting and ingesting, like eating it. It’s eating a protein like having a hamburger is just fine. Injecting foreign proteins into the body is not. And when you inject foreign proteins, you turn on the immune system, start an inflammatory cascade and end up with a lot of complications.
Sam Rohrer:
Boy, we could keep going on and on for that, but ladies and gentlemen, I think if you’re listening here now, these things that we’re talking about, you’ve no doubt studied yourself, you’ve heard, you’ve heard parts of it. Just wanting to cover the high points of this right now as we are talking about this subject of the vaccine gold standard illusion. All right, it’s an illusion. I’m going to come back and we’ll talk about this area of informed consent and some things that can actually be done to help you and your family. All right, as we move through this theme today, and hopefully it’s been helpful to you already, if you’re just joining us, I’m talking with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. She’s renowned in her broad field, but she’s a founder of Tenpenny Integrative Medical at the center there in Cleveland, Ohio. And she has a website at Dr.
drtenpenny, drtenpenny.com. You can find a lot of good information there on all we’re talking about today, plus a lot more. But when it comes to this matter of health, now we’re talking the last segment about the gold standard as it’s called. The president signed an executive order back on August the 10th where it’s now being promoted that major changes were made to the vaccine schedule, reducing from 18 to 11 and unbundling some of what they call so you don’t get as many at one point and all of that kind of thing. The appearance of doing something that’s good, but at the end of the day, we talked about the actual matter of efficacy and vaccine, what it does for you, does to you, is not addressed. So it’s really more, I’m going to put in my terms, more of a slight of hand, I would say.
Doesn’t really substantively address the concerns that people who really have studied this would have. But that being the case, we’re going on because one of those areas that it touches on is informed consent because when government and the official entities, the experts keep telling people you’ve got to have another shot, another shot, another shot, another shot, and if you’re sick, you got to have another shot. All right, all a part of this, but it runs counter, as you all know, if you’ve had children in particular, it runs counter to, well, it’s not what I think. And so into that, we have this other area that comes up. And in this segment, I want to move now to move actually from analyzing federal policy, which does not have the interest of parents upfront, is not governed first by informed consent, is not governed by any concept of what you would say the individual ability to choose for oneself.
It doesn’t at all, and it really produces many problems for parents, grandparents, and Christians, particular who understand the concept of stewardship. So how do you actually exercise true, uncoerced, informed consent? For instance, when you walk into a doctor’s office or a clinical setting, particularly when it comes to this issue of vaccines. Now, standard CDC vaccine information statements rarely give parents a full transparent look at, for instance, the manufacturer’s package inserts or complete ingredient profiles of actually what’s in this or the potential adverse events or certainly long-term clinical trial limitations. And Dr. Tenpenny has long time advocated for parents and helping them not to be unduly influenced by a sense of security where in fact they have not had actual access to the data. So the result of that is that Dr. Tenpenny, along with Dr. Brian Artis, anybody in this space would recognize that name as well, recently co-founded a mobile educational tool called Vax App.
We’re going to talk about that in a bit, but designed to put raw manufacturer package insert data, ingredient breakdowns, and state by state exemption laws directly into the hands of parents before an appointment, it really does help to empower parents and families to stand firm. So we’re going to talk about this. Dr. Tenpenny, when a parent is handed a standard one-page CDC vaccine information sheet, for instance, in a pediatrician’s office, what critical information regarding ingredients, manufacturing adjuvants, those additional things that are put in there or trial limitations is routinely omitted that can actually be found if a parent would read the manufacturer’s full package insert?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, actually, the vaccine information statement, we call it the VIS statement for short, is required by law for pediatricians to give one for each of the vaccines that are administered to the parents and allow them time to look them over and ask their questions. And basically a VIS statement is a one-pager propaganda piece put out by the CDC. It basically says nothing. It says, “This is what the infection is, this is what the rate is, and vaccines are safe and effective, and thank you for signing the paper here and going ahead with your vaccination.” And we really, Dr. Brian Artis and I started this project two years ago because we felt that a lot of parents wanted to read package inserts, but didn’t know where to find them. They were inconvenient when you did find them. And if you don’t have a medical background, reading them can be very complicated.
And so we took on this project about two years ago, we’ve been working on this, to tear apart the package insert for each one of the vaccines, make it searchable by age to make sure the vaccine that they’re going to give is age appropriate to your child, because there have been many cases of children getting adult vaccines by accident. Make sure it’s age appropriate. You can find out what the ingredients are. You can ask questions about that. You can find out what the precautions are, the contraindications, who the manufacturer is, when the vaccines were manufactured, when they were approved, and that’s just level one, just level one. Brian and I are in the process of developing ongoing educational material that will be in the app about, he’s creating a whole section on what to do if you choose to not vaccinate, what to do instead of vaccinating.
And I’m creating a whole section on refuting the 25 most common reasons that you are advised to vaccinate and to do it with PubMed reference material and done in a way that anybody can understand it. There’s also sections in the app that are questions to ask your doctor. They are things like, “Do I need all of these at the same time? Is my child going to be exposed to all these diseases on the same day? What about polio? Do I even need a polio vaccine?” I mean, the Western Hemisphere has been declared polio free. There’s not a single case of polio in the Western hemisphere. Now, just to make sure your audience knows what that is, I mean, that’s Canada, America, Mexico, Central America, and South America. So in all of that landmass, there has not been a case of polio since 1991, and the World Health Organization has declared the Western Hemisphere polio-free since 1993 or four.
So why are children still getting three or four polio vaccines against a virus that doesn’t even exist anywhere around them? Why do they have to get a hepatitis B vaccine if their parents are not homosexual, don’t have diverse sexual practices and are not using IV drugs? Why does my two-month-old baby need one of those?
And so we look at this tool that we have developed as a parent empowerment tool that you can have at your hand, in your hand, on your phone. You can get the app. If you have an iPhone, you can get it through the app store. If you have an Android, you can get it through the Google store so that you’ve always got this information in your hands, whether you’re in a doctor’s office or whether you’re at a PTA meeting or whether you’re in the gym or you’re out to dinner with friends, that you can pull up this information and have it right on your hand because as you know, we’re all totally addicted to our phones and we always have them with us. We don’t always have access to our computers.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, absolutely. Now this is VAX app, V-A-X, ladies and gentlemen, V-A-X app, Vax app. That’s where you would look and search for that. Let’s go on another topic here. You may have to carry it over. But one of the most difficult things is for young parents in particular, infants, young children, they go and they receive these arguments. “You’ve got to give this to your baby. You’ve got to give these to your young children because if they don’t, the implication is they’re going to get sick and maybe die or come down with who knows. And the parent now has a great sense of guilt that if they say no, it’s almost like they are now going to be charged with neglect or abuse. Here’s my question. How can we equip parents to dismantle this guilt driven narrative and reclaim their God-given authority and recognize that exercising cautious stewardship over their child’s natural immune system is not abuse, but responsible parenthood?
Sherry Tenpenny:
That’s it right there. You just summed it up, Sam. I mean, they always talk about if your child doesn’t get vaccinated, they could get really sick. They could be in the hospital. And the pediatrician always tells you the worst case scenario that they’ve seen one time in their 25 years of practice, once. And so they’re all guilted that their kid might get sick and die, but the pediatrician never says, “If we give you all these vaccine at the same time, you might get asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD, ADHD, seizure disorders, a long list of autoimmune diseases, a long list of neurological problems. You might even get cancer by injecting this foreign matter into your child.” So what’s the trade off? A few days of being sick or a lifetime of illness and injury. That would be truly informed consent, which parents are never given.
Sam Rohrer:
And with that, again, we’re about done. The information that you’re trying to provide along with the Vax app, that would help parents with some of that decision making, would it not?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Absolutely. I mean, you can’t decide for or against something unless you know something about it. And so once you understand something about it. People learn differently. Some people learn by listening, some by reading, some by doing electronics. The Vax app puts that material in your hand. You can go to Vax app in the app store. You can go to vaxapp.drtenpenny.com. It’ll all get you to the same place.
Sam Rohrer:
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Sherry Tenpenny:
It’s just really important to understand. If you want to read, the best book I would advise is Turtles All the Way Down.
Sam Rohrer:
All right. Turtles all the way down. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. We have one more segment to go. When we come back, we’re going to go to more solutions, and I’m terming this spiritual discernment, stewardship, and biblical health freedom. And this is what we can really come down to. Who’s the expert? Where do we go for the vax? All right. Now as we go into our final segment here again, just before I get into it, again, my guest is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. She has her website at drdrtenpenny.com. And you can find a lot of information, including more information about this vax app that we were just talking about in the last segment. Now with that in mind, Dr. Tenpenny and I, I would say have pulled back the curtain, so to speak, on the legacy health establishment, those entities that have really been the setters of the health standards that have influenced all of us.
And we’ve examined in part how fear narratives, for instance, around localized measles outbreaks, which is a current thing, are actually many times engineered to, well, force compliance, to analyze. We talked about that. We’ve talked about the scope of executive order 14420 that was signed on August the 10th, called the gold standard that revised and make some changes with the vaccine schedule. And then we’ve talked about some practical tools to help parents and any individual in the area of informed consent about vaccines, and that’s the vax app. So that’s what we’ve dealt with. Now I’m just closing segment. I want to move beyond policy analysis and clinical tools like the vax app to anchor ourselves in the ultimate baseline. And what is that? Well, for us, we talk here about biblical worldview all the time. What is the baseline? Well, it’s God’s word and biblical principles because the principles therein have provided parents and all individuals since the beginning of creation to the very time that scripture talks about the plan of redemption being fully completed throughout this whole history, God’s word has never changed nor do biblical principles.
As an example, and as a principle, we’ve cited many times on this program, scripture is explicit that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit and that God has assigned the sacred duty of raising and nurturing and protecting children directly to parents, not to state bureaucracies, corporate health monopolies or pharmaceutical executives. In addition, as true believers, we are called also not to walk in a spirit of fear or passive compliance, but in spiritual discernment, biblical clarity and courageous stewardship. Those are principles that never change. Now in this final segment, I want to look at how Christian parents and pastors and church leaders can stand firm in this area of biblical health freedom and resist the many, many coercive pressures on our culture. So Dr. Tenpenny, when we evaluate modern public health policy, of which we’ve just taken just a glancing blow here today, but we do so through a biblical worldview, where do you see the fundamental clash between God-given parental authority over a child’s body or a person’s body and the state’s push for centralized pharmaceutical driven control and why it’s so important to get this foundational principle established?
I mean, we’ve dealt with it once during COVID days. We’re going to deal with it probably again, but it ultimately comes down to where people sit on this fundamental issue. So articulate that please.
Sherry Tenpenny:
Well, this has been a slow encroachment of our government onto parental care of their children over the last maybe hundred years. When they started pushing kids out of. From the time that the country was founded, children learned how to read by learning to read the Bible and they were taught at home by their parents and they were taught principles and civil government and civil society and manners and all the things that the Bible says about raise a child up in the way that you would have them go so that they may continue to do that in their whole life. I mean, I murdered that and paraphrased it, but you know the idea. And then about in the 1920s when Henry Ford got involved with the school system, it began to encroach on what we were teaching kids and that we were bringing children into these public school systems.
And it’s just been gradually getting worse over time to where we are today, that if the country and the school system, particularly the entire education system in our country had their way, you would have a baby, you would raise them till they were five, and then you would send them off to these camps, these encroachment camps where they could be raised the way the government wants them to be raised for the rest of their life. I’m not exaggerating about that, Sam. I have a podcast, it’s a Monday through Friday podcast called The 10 Penny Files, where I only interview authors and documentary filmmakers. I’ve been doing it now for almost a year and I’ve had a lot of people on the show. We talk about a whole bunch of different things. We talk about politics and archeology and astronomy and pets and food and fitness and travel and all sorts of things.
I’ve had a lot of people on that have written incredibly good books about the deterioration of the educational system in this country and how it’s now become an indoctrination program and not so much about education, the dismal rate of education in our country of how many kids graduate from high school that can’t read or even do simple math. And so this has been a slow encroachment on parental rights when parents have children and are trying to raise them correctly, raise them from a biblical worldview into now they’re being indoctrinated into a socialist, Marxist worldview through the school system. So it’s been slow going, but it has been steady going for more than a hundred years.
Sam Rohrer:
All right. Only just a couple minutes left, but oftentimes, and I’ll just get your opinion on this, just like when COVID came around, all of a sudden, out of nowhere comes a major fear promoted by government and all of the media and people are told, “All right, bad things are going to happen to you unless you follow our recommendation.” So people are for a moment without a lot of knowledge and they’re being told by “government experts” what to do. That’s going to come our way again. How would you articulate how parents and others ought to, when confronted by things like that, how to apply a proper biblical principle to that?
Sherry Tenpenny:
Sam, the Bible says 144 times, because I’ve actually counted them and done an analysis on this, says 144 times fear not. If God bothers to repeat himself that many times, it’s probably important. I said at the very beginning of COVID, I knew the exact cure for COVID. I knew what to do about it and everybody’s like, “What? What?” I said, “Turn off your television. Stop listening to the propaganda and them hyping up the fear. Just wait, sit back and wait.” And when the next one comes around, I would advise both of those things again, fear not, fear not. Get your head in the word and get your head out of the politics on the television
Sam Rohrer:
Set. All right. I think that’s a great way to conclude it. I think with that, I’m just going to pray and close the program. Heavenly Father, thank you Lord for giving us your word and that is the truth, that does not change. As you have told us, not to fear, but turn to you in times of, well, what would appear to be crisis or things that come our way. Lord, I pray that our people, those who are listening, would have their feet anchored and would trust not in someone else or in government, but in what you have said, seek wisdom to apply your truth and your principles. We pray this in Jesus’ name. Amen. And with that, Dr. Tenpenny, thank you so much for being with me again today. Again, that website, Dr.drtenpenny.com, you can find a lot of information about what we’ve talked about today, plus a whole lot more and that information and check out that Vax app, that V-A-X Vax app.
It could just be something you’d find very valuable. Sherry, thank you again for being with me and keep up the good work and we look forward to having you back again soon.
Sherry Tenpenny:
Sam, God bless.
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