Holding a True Biblical Worldview…Reflecting the Mind of Christ

Holding a True Biblical Worldview…Reflecting the Mind of Christ

Oct. 12, 2026

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Dr. Renton Rathbun

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 10/12/26. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Sam Rohrer:

Hello, and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand in the Gap Today. And it’s also our monthly focus on apologetics, education, and a biblical worldview with returning guest, Dr. Renton Rathbun. He’s a favorite here on the program, as I hear from you. He’s a college professor for over two decades, a frequent speaker on biblical worldview instruction with BJU Press, who we feature on this program. And they are the largest producer of true biblical worldview aligned K to 12 Christian textbook curricula. So there’s a real good connection here as we tackle this subject that we’re going to deal with today, because today we’re going to tackle a foundational topic, and this is our title, Holding a True Biblical Worldview: Reflecting the Mind of Christ. Biblical worldview, mind of Christ. Remember those two things that’ll be connected as we go through the program. Now, the motivating factors driving us to do this today, well, the usage of the term biblical worldview has steadily increased over the last years.

And of course, we use it here every day. It’s in our introduction. We present information on this program from the perspective of a biblical worldview. But that term has been increasingly broadened, and we use it because we know it defines, a true biblical worldview will define the way we measure and make life decisions and choices and affects every area of culture, economics, politics, even the religious realm, who I will say many today are marketing their products or their services to the professing American Christian using that term increasingly. And they’ve recognized that this phrase, and they have incorporated it into their communication seeking to, well, I’m going to say communicate a Bible or a morally sanctioned position. People use it oftentimes, but without measuring their actions according to it and without linking it and making sure that it actually meets the words of scripture. So therefore there is a need.

Now, others hear the phrase biblical worldview, but could not really explain it. Others claim to be operating in the sphere of their life as a Christian and therefore justify their actions and words as if they are living according to the Bible, whether they specifically use the phrase biblical worldview or not. But see, herein I believe is where confusion results and is increasingly so. And it’s for this reason and others that we felt necessary to revisit today the meaning of worldview generally, biblical worldview specifically, and to consider it well, not in alignment to what we think, not what we think, but what the word of God says. Now that being said, Renton, welcome back to the program. Always, always good to have you with us.

Renton Rathbun:

Oh, well, thank you for having me for this very important topic.

Sam Rohrer:

All right. Let’s get started right off. Let’s start very broad and then narrow down. First question I’d like to ask you, Renton, is this. What is a worldview? First, kind of put it all together in a brief apologetic. Does everyone have one, for instance, according to scripture in the end, how many worldviews perhaps are there? And then thirdly, according to scripture and even secular analysis, what is it that ultimately determines one’s worldview? Just kind of put those all together.

Renton Rathbun:

Sure. What’s interesting is BJU Press has a very strong emphasis, as you mentioned, a biblical worldview. And they’re actually the best place that I have found a definition for worldview. Most people, when they talk about a worldview, they’re talking about basic beliefs, assumptions, and values that help interpret the world. But BJU Press puts it this way. A worldview is a big story about the world that gives rise to a set of basic beliefs, assumptions, and values, and that produces human culture.

That’s a paraphrase, but basically that’s what they’re saying. And this is what’s important is that it’s a big story. We all believe in a big story and that’s what brings about our basic beliefs, values, and assumptions. So yes, everyone has a worldview. This is because the only way we can understand the world is through the context of the story we believe we are living in. Making meaning out of facts is taking a fact and adapting it to the story we believe we’re living in. You cannot think, make judgements or have beliefs without contextualizing everything within a story because that’s how God made us. Now that other question, according to scripture, in the end, how many worldviews are there? According to scripture, and we’re going to find that this is challenged quite a bit today, according to scripture, there are only two worldviews, only two. One is true and the other is false.

We find from the book of Romans that it’s quite clear. Romans one tells us there is only those that suppress the truth and unrighteousness and those that have righteousness in Christ. There is nothing else. Romans five tells us you are either in Adam or you are in Christ. There is nothing else you can be in. And Romans eight tells us you either have a mindset of the spirit of Christ or you have a mindset of the flesh. There is nothing else. So those are the two worldviews. You either have a worldview of truth or a worldview of a lie. Now, the third part you were talking about, according to scripture and even the secular analysis, what is ultimately what determines your worldview. And I would say this, what ultimately determines our worldview comes down to the story you believe you’re living in. Genesis one tells us in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

If your story is in the beginning, there was an explosion and everything came about by incident, that’s going to give you a very different worldview. And so how the story aligns with how you are dealing with facts is going to cause your worldview to be completely different. Now the real question that we want to even talk about today is what causes me to believe in the right story as opposed to the story that’s a lie that shapes my worldview?

Sam Rohrer:

All right. And you took us right up there. So we’re going to explain that more and you will, but that is a very vital question. And so on one hand, as we approach the whole idea of salvation, some people say, wait, it’s too narrow, but yet we know from scripture that there is a narrow way and there’s a broad way. So starting out, why is it critical to understand that God lays out a binary thing, walking after the flesh or walking after the spirit?

Renton Rathbun:

Important because scripture speaks only in those terms and nothing else. See, the big lie that even the Christians have begun to believe is that there are three worldviews. They believe, of course, there’s a biblical worldview because I’m a Christian. And of course there’s that secular worldview because they’re not Christians, but there’s also this other worldview they believe in called the neutral worldview. They believe most people live in a neutral worldview that needs a biblical worldview then added to this neutral worldview. And what we’re going to find today and what we’re really going to put our finger on is the lie that this neutral worldview really is there. What we’re going to find is that neutral worldview is still Satan’s worldview.

Sam Rohrer:

Ladies and gentlemen, I hope that this introduction to the program today is intriguing to you because it does affect us all. And here’s the theme again, holding a true biblical worldview, reflecting the mind of Christ. Now we just raised that one. We’re going to build that out as we go into the next segment. Dr. Renton Rathbun is my guest today. Critical theme as we walk through holding a true biblical worldview. Well, welcome back as we go into our second segment and we’ve set up the theme for today, biblical worldview. Holding a true biblical worldview, reflecting the mind of Christ. And so that we’re going to connect those thoughts. My guest today is Dr. Renton Rathbun is with me almost always. We try to the second Monday of each month where we look at the theme of apologetics and education and the biblical worldview. So that puts all of this together.

I will give you a website for rentonrathbun.com. Easy, rentonrathbun.com. He has a podcast there. He does a lot of work in putting information together, primarily for parents and grandparents, at least on that site. You’ll find other things as well, but things that are encountering that are confronting their children and/or grandchildren, very helpful. Now that being the case, let’s go right further into it. In the first segment we exposed, I’m going to say what I call a critical danger in our current cultural moment, and that is the term biblical worldview. Once little used is now much more widely adopted. And I suggested that it is even being marketed and tossed around by politicians, economists, even religious figures certainly to sanction positions that haven’t necessarily been measured against the complete word of God. It’s kind of hung out there as a sanction for what they may do or say.

Now, this is particularly instructive because when people who self-identify as Christian, as does over 70% of the American public, but very so greatly that according to research Dr. George Barno on this program regularly as well, he says that of that number, only about 6% would evidence a truly biblical worldview. Now that clearly means there’s a problem, big problem. When the vast majority of those who say they’re Christians feel comfortable picking and choosing what Bible truth they believe and apply and routinely arrive at, well, oftentimes wholly contradictory conclusions, what happens? Confusion reigns. Now true righteousness throughout history, and we’re going to talk more about this, has never been about adopting a trendy label or keeping outward traditions. It’s always boiled down to fearing God and obeying his commands and then acting and thinking like Christ, literally having the mind of Christ. All right, Renton, let’s get into it.

There’s a lot to say in this, but from your observation of culture and scripture, how did we drift from, well, broad categories like maybe existed at one point where I’m religious versus non-religious to Christian versus secular. And ultimately that became Christian world view and then kind of watered down, then became biblical worldview. And now according to George Barna, we have this prevailing 94% of all Americans, they hold this religion called syncretism. So how does embracing the mind of Christ then provide the definitive solutions? How did we get here and how can it be perhaps corrected by understanding the mind of Christ?

Renton Rathbun:

Well, you see, since the enlightenment, Christians have been sucked into this lie that I think is at the core of the syncretism that you’re talking about that Barna brought out. At the core of it is this idea that we get to stand somewhere in a neutral place and look at God and look at the world and we from this neutral spot get to make this decision as to who’s right and who’s wrong, who’s true and who’s false. And what I mean is this, in the medieval times, you had human tradition becoming equal with the authority of scripture. So by the time we get to the enlightenment, the idea was that science will give us this neutral grounding. Now that we can see that humans are able to reach the same level of authority, now science will be that way for us to be neutral and make decisions.

Do I believe in the Bible? Do I not believe in the Bible? I can stand on this neutral grounding of science where I have my observation, my testing to make my decisions. And we can stand back in this neutral spot and decide whether God is true or if Satan is false or whatever it is as if the world was this kind of hotel and every room was this different belief system and we got to stand in the lobby where we’re not making a decision into any room yet. You have a Christian room, you have a Muslim room, you have an atheist room, you have a scientist room, all these different rooms and you stand in the lobby in this neutral spot, not committed yet to a decision and you get to make a decision from the lobby and then go to one of the rooms you want to believe in.

See, the thing that we didn’t realize is that Satan owns the lobby. See, we don’t get to stand in a neutral spot. Even the secular world understood that you don’t get to have this neutral idea because science begins with the human observation. You’re already in the system. You don’t get to step out of the system. And so the Christians ate this up though. They ate up the enlightenment and adapted it. You can see how even in our apologetics today, we are trying to tell kids they can believe in the Bible by standing on this neutral ground of science or archeology or some logical system. And then you get to decide whether God’s speech is true or false based on the parameters of that science or the parameters of that archeology or the parameters of that logic. And then you can decide. And these are conservative families believing this.

In other words, we are teaching the next generation to trust their flesh in order to believe the spiritual. And like with your next question, how do we get away from this delusion? I think it starts with one Corinthians chapter two that clearly tells us that the ability to believe, and this is what I wanted to get to because it’s one thing to say, well, there’s two worldviews, but what causes me to believe in the right one, what causes me to believe in the wrong one? Well, the cause comes down to this. First Corinthians chapter two, it tells us that the ability to believe, the power that causes us to believe the correct story, the worldview that is true, the only worldview that’s true is not the power of a well-formed speech. Paul says, “I did not come to you with persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the spirit of power.” So what causes us to believe is not this demonstration of a well-formed speech or well-formed logic.

It is rather the spirit, the power of the spirit. And this is through the work of Christ, because of the love of the Father, the spirit is what causes us to believe that we may know these things as we get down into that chapter. We may know these things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak not in words taught by human wisdom, but in words taught by the spirit, combining the spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. It is only through the spirit we are able to have the truth and that’s how we have the mind of Christ.

Sam Rohrer:

All right. Let’s go here on a we’re listening and say, “Well, you know what? Okay, well, is it all my choice?” We know that biblical truth and truth is spiritually discerned. There is a choice very clearly, scripture tells us. So this tension, which I want to have you build that out a little bit, and what we’re talking about now of this urgent need to return to the word of God to recalibrate our thinking, the character of the professing church to our culture, if it ever is to come back to be a moral culture, put it that way, it’s going to have to be recalibrated by that. Is this, what we’re talking about today, a new challenge or is it something that really has faced every generation throughout the history of mankind since the fall? Yeah,

Renton Rathbun:

That is a great point, especially thinking about how it is that that choice comes to us. This started way back with Eve, when Satan came to Eve and said to her, “Has God really said?” That was his question. “Has God really said that question from Eve to today has been our constant fight in what a true biblical worldview is. And so since the fall, this has been our battle. You look throughout history and you see man constantly asking the question, did God really say? And again, we saw the deterioration of God’s authoritative word to man’s customs in the medieval period. We saw the reformation try and correct that and say,” No, God’s word is the authority. “But then again, we see the enlightenment come along and say,” No, you don’t need the scriptures, you need science. “But then we see a return in America with the first great awakening.

But then again, in America, we have deteriorating denominations where we saw the PCUSA turn liberal and the PCUS of the South, this is a big Presbyterian denomination, turned liberal. And this constantly throughout history asking the question, did God really say? And this question always comes down to God’s word, his speech. Is the Bible inerrant? Is the Bible inspired? Is the Bible infallible? That’s the question we have got to address with our children because that’s what’s constantly on attack. We try to correct this in our denominations when we have good denominations, rise up and praise the Lord for them. But now we’re dealing with it again as we have apologists everywhere trying to tell our kids, conservative apologists talking to conservative kids that you can believe in the speech of God as long as it’s reasonable, as long as it’s scientific, as long as we find the archeological findings, as long as we find that gopher wood on that mountain.

And all of it comes down to how is it that we should lead our children

Sam Rohrer:

To believe. Ladies and gentlemen, what’s Solomon saying Ecclesiastes? There’s nothing new under the sun. Why is that? Well, because the heart of man is depraved from birth, happened after the fall. Every generation, every parent of every child has had to deal with this challenge as now we are discussing again today. So you can say you have a biblical worldview, but be far from it. When we come back, we’re going to continue to give some examples of how this is actually being worked out before us. All right, just a quick reminder, my guest today is Dr. Renton Rathbun. He’s been with me many, many times. As you know, you can go on our website and find past programs with him. He has a website, rentonrathbun.com, where he has a podcast posting where he does provide input, really good input, primarily directed to parents and grandparents of children, school-aged children, about issues that may be affecting them, and there are many.

Now, we’re going to continue here today, our theme, holding a true biblical worldview, reflecting the mind of Christ. In the last segment, we confronted a staggering reality, and it really is because while the vast majority of the American public self-identifies as Christian, but 70%, Dr. George Barn’s material that we have shared in this program many times, only about 6% of them actually evidence a true biblical worldview. So just think about that. Almost all, basically, who say they are Christians, do not evidence an understanding of what is a biblical worldview and the components thereof, and then certainly to put it into practice. But as Dr. Barna says, they have fallen into this, he uses the word syncretism, this arena, kind of like a smorgasbord mentality where you can pick and choose whatever biblical truths you might find convenient, rejecting those that you don’t find convenient. When that happens, you routinely will arrive at people who say they are Christians, but come to extraordinarily biblically contradictory conclusions because we know as within God’s word, there is no contradiction.

So when people do this and they use the term biblical worldview, but they arrive at very unbiblically based conclusions, well, it tends to loses its anchor. But true righteousness, biblical righteousness, has never been about compartmentalized beliefs or watering down God’s standard. And that’s what Dr. Rathbun talked a little bit in the last segment. So when we talk about the mind of Christ, the ultimate standard of perfection about what is a biblical worldview, we must recognize that his mind is perfect and it is flawless. Therefore, developing a true biblical worldview means taking the whole council of God and applying it to the entirety of scripture, not mixing it with the shifting philosophies of any given culture, which Renton talked about over the generations they have come and gone, science to all kinds of things. And this is where education, intellectual formation and apologetics become the front lines as modern institutions today frequently train young minds in particular away from this absolute standard and toward syncretistic, I’m going to say accommodation.

And that idea of compartmentalizing biblical truth perhaps goes to the heart of why there is an increasing distortion of what is in fact a true biblical worldview. All right, Renton, let’s go here because some would say, “Well, okay, I think I agree with you. I think so, but I want you to go and just give some examples here. I know in the area of education, you’ve spent so much of your life, and I know that education is important for people, like science can be a dislocator, perhaps of truth, but I just did this, measured by dollars. We know it’s important in America. This year, approximately every year, we spend a trillion dollars on K-12 education and an additional 750 billion on post-high school education. So no one can say that we have not prioritized education, but therein is the problem. Can you provide some illustrations of how education has morphed even Christian education perhaps into something that does not look like a true biblical education?

Renton Rathbun:

Yeah, especially with public schooling goes without saying. I mean, it is the false worldview where all things are contextualized in a lie. And so we turn to Christian education, but even Christian education is struggling to understand biblical worldview. Many Christian schools still use secular textbooks causing young people to believe there’s some kind of biblical worldview that you add to an otherwise neutral set of knowledge bases. I mean, one thing I would tell parents, if you’re thinking of sending your kid to a Christian school, of course you want to meet with the principal and all that, but I would meet with the math teacher, meet with the math teacher and ask them, how is it that you have a biblical worldview of math and how do you teach children how math is to be understood from a biblical worldview? I’d do the same thing with any other subject.

And if they don’t have a satisfying answer to that, I’d homeschool if you had to, whatever you have to do because in the end, if kids are convinced there is this neutral knowledge base, you have already lost the war. Many Christian schools struggle to make time for their Bible courses, and I mean equal time that they spend on their Bible course as opposed to something like a science course that they really take seriously. And not only that, does their Bible even have a beginning, middle, and an end the way every other course would, like math and history and those kind of courses. And as you look even in Christian universities, a lot of Christian universities are populated with faculty who learn their craft from a secular worldview. Then they come to the Christian university and they often believe they must now add God’s word to this otherwise neutral knowledge set that they got from a godless university.

And they don’t get the idea that a true biblical worldview is understanding the world fully in Christ or fully in the flesh. There is nothing in the middle. And once they understand that, you can really gain ground, but if you don’t understand that, if they’re not getting those things, then you’re losing the war rapidly.

Sam Rohrer:

I love what you just said there. Ladies and gentlemen, think about that. No neutral ground. And I’m going to say in any area of life and when considering even Christian schools, yeah, I thought that was great. Talk to the math teacher, talk to the science teacher and find out about how they implement and understand biblical worldview. It does make all the difference. Now let’s go to another big area of culture. Renton, it’s one you’ve spent over 20 or 30 years in education. I’ve spent about 20 years in the political arena. And that one, that political area dominates our modern culture. It drives our headlines every day. It routinely people within it cite references to God and prayer, and yet there is confusion and people saying, “If that’s what it means to be a Christian, I don’t want to be one. We know it’s happening.” What examples would you offer to indicate how people in the arena of politics perhaps have not manifested a genuine biblical worldview in the mind of Christ and is therefore producing enormous confusion, just as you pointed out is so evidence and it can be so tracked in the area of education?

Renton Rathbun:

We live at a time where the extreme of evil is before us. And when we are confronted with extreme evil, we begin to lose hope in the spiritual work of God and the power of God’s word and we gain hope in humans. And that is a great way to understand how we have been understanding politics. See, oftentimes I see people that are devoted and loyal to their political system or a politician that has done something for them that gave some relief in one of these facets that caused so much tension with the evil before us. But in doing so, they endorse this politician and they see this politician doing no evil because they have done this thing even when they surround themselves with false teachers, where they will still surround themselves with female pastors, prosperity gospel pastors, or even use verses that bolster some agenda when those verses they know have nothing to do with that agenda.

We take our political advice from conservatives that don’t even believe Jesus is God, men and women who openly and clearly do not have the mind of Christ, yet we listen to them with bated breath to hear who we’re supposed to hate and who we’re supposed to love and why everything’s falling apart and this is the pathway to freedom. See, when politicians are telling us to respond, when we hear that and we’re supposed to listen to them to how we’re supposed to fix everything, what we see is this oftentimes an unrighteous anger, even bidding us to hate people. This is ungodly and unbiblical. We are not only to love those who love us, we are to love our enemies. And no, that doesn’t mean making our enemies our friends, but it clearly does mean not crucifying our enemies by way of manipulation and listen by rhetoric.

See, we have fallen for the idea that as long as they’re on our side, they’re going to help us Christians out. We don’t even care if they use God’s name in vain. We don’t care if they speak In ways that are abhorrent to God’s word, abhorrent to others, where unclean things are coming out of their mouth, we don’t care because all we want is for them to be the answer to our problems. And we are demonstrating the thing that has been haunting us all along, did God really say? Well, did God really say, unless there’s a real big political thing we need done. No, God said, and we need to believe it, and that should settle it for us.

Sam Rohrer:

And ladies and gentlemen, we could go so much further, but I hope that what Renton has said has intrigued your thinking. I think it’s very clear what he was saying, because we see it. We see those stand and talk in the name of God, talk in the name of the Bible, but don’t manifest it. And we understand what the Bible says and what God loves and what God hates and say, well, God doesn’t really love what he says he loves. He doesn’t really hate what he says he loves. We’re going to make a determination ourself. You get the idea. When we come back, we’re going to make some final applications here on how to achieve this mind of Christ.

Well, as we move now into our final segment, just asking you, I guess a reminder, this program, all of our programs are available on our website, standinthegapradio.com and on our app, Stand in the Gap. And you will there find a transcript. Many are taking and finding that and then reading along with it and listening to the program together. A lot of information is packed into all of these programs that we do. A lot of work and effort is put into it. My guest today has spent time in praying and thinking about it. I have spent hours in preparation for putting this together. This is the normal because we understand that it is no small matter to talk about biblical truth and to do it without proper planning and prayer because we’re talking about God’s word. And ultimately we’re talking about, well, life, eternal life as compared to in spending that time with the Lord.

That’s what the gospel is all about. So I just wanted you to share that with you. And then for Dr. Renton Rathbun as well, his website that you can find things on there from him, rentonrathbun.com.

All right. Now in today’s conversation, we started with the fact that everyone has a worldview. We then moved to the reality that there are but only two worldviews, that which is truth and that which is anything other than truth. And Renton made that clear in that segment. Then as time went along, then people would find themselves in categorizing themselves, comparing themselves one to another. I’m religious and you are not religious. And then up along time came Christian worldview as an effort to try and separate a little bit more clearly. And that was in contrast to a secular worldview. And then as time went along, then it became, well, it became important to clarify even more and say, well, there are a lot of folks who say, I got a Christian worldview, but they’re not acting like it. And so into that comes really a biblical worldview.

These are some things that we’re talking about. And ultimately biblical worldview is measured by, well, does it adhere and align fully with God’s unchanging word of God? And comparing to God’s definition of righteous, as did Jesus and his sermon on the mount. That’s what it was all about to those Pharisees of the day and the disciples would be disciples, those who are followers of Christ. And then the Apostle Paul coming along and urging the early church to have the mind of Christ in all things. Being a true Christian cannot be known or can that standard be used to determine the false prophet from the true man of God? If we don’t start with God’s standard and really apply it, how do we know and identify the false prophet from the true man of God or the wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing from a genuine sheep, all illustrations that Christ gave.

So let’s go some further application here, Renton. We’ve discussed worldview. Obviously I’ve reviewed some of the, we finally anchored in the mind of Christ as the model, the ultimate standard for true Christian biblical thinking and actions. What biblical recommendations could you provide here at the end for every God fearing person listening today to better understand the power of having the mind of Christ and using biblical principles to measure, well, I’m going to say to measure not only our own individual actions and decisions, but the massive deception that the scriptures told us is coming our way and we see all around us today, the media, the culture, the political, the economic, and even religious leaders. I mean, let’s get practical here now.

Renton Rathbun:

Yeah. To sum all this up, I mean, really we’ve been speaking on these big high ideas. And so let me bring it down to the clearest way I can put it. The clearest way I can put it is this. This is about how you see God’s word. Is it the authority over all human knowledge or does it add to human knowledge? I mean, that’s the question. Does God’s word, does the speech of God stand as the authority over all human knowledge by which, whether you are talking about one plus one or you are talking about postmodernism, all must come under the authority of God’s word and be understood through it? Do you believe that? Do you believe in the authority, the ultimate authority of God’s word? Because that is what we’re talking about. And so if that’s what we’re talking about, we need to have a Romans eight mindset that says this, “For the mindset in the flesh is death, but the mindset in the spirit is life and peace because the mindset in the flesh is hostile toward God.” If that is true, then anything outside of the authority of scripture is the flesh.

Do we believe that? If we do, what we need to see is we need to see pastors that are willing to preach that the power that we are all seeking for is not in the political, it is in Christ through the spirit because of the love of the father. We need pastors that remind their congregation that there is no power in the world that can triumph over the power that lives in them. We need parents that will stop allowing their children to be mentored by YouTube videos and apologists on YouTube videos and rather be mentored by deacons, elders and pastors of their churches. We need a spiritual body of Christ instead of a body of Christ that is still in love with the physical. We need parents that are loyal to the Lord, loyal to his word, loyal to the church, parents that teach their children how to be loyal to the Lord, even if it makes them unpopular or even unloved by the world.

Sam Rohrer:

And with that, let’s shift gears this brief last couple of minutes. That is great advice. Ladies and gentlemen, go back and get that, read the transcript, listen to it again and then share this with a friend really. But Renton, there are those who are in. You spoke a little bit to pastors and parents, but there is an admonition that scripture would give to all of those in positions of any leadership at all levels. What council should all involved, whatever level they may be, their actions or choices, their words, votes if they’re in office or pulling the lever for someone if they’re going to do that. But what does scripture say about the care that must be exercised by those in positions of authority relative to God’s word?

Renton Rathbun:

It is terrifying when you start seeing how God holds people accountable, all the way from the book of Kings to Chronicles to even Romans 13. All those that are put in positions of authority are placed in a position of great accountability and not just accountability to other people, but accountability to the Lord. This should make us filled with the fear of the Lord. We have looked at power all wrong, even within the Christian world where we do not see our power as that which will be accounted for. We see it as that which we could use. And this accountability comes down to what you believe about your God. Is he a holy God, a God that demands devotedness to himself where you are teaching those underneath you to be loyal to the Lord, whether that means you are doing this in a political manner or you are doing it in the church itself or you are in a position of authority in an educational system, you are teaching those around you to be devoted to the Lord.

And this devotedness, that’s what we’re talking about when we’re talking about holiness. Set aside for the Lord, devoted to him. And as you see that, you see this big struggle of loyalties. Will I be loyal to my survival in my power or will I be loyal to the Lord even if it means I lose my power, I lose my influence, I lose people that I want for myself.

And we see this over and over and only through God’s word can we have victory

Sam Rohrer:

Over that. Dr. Renton Rathbun, thank you so much for being with me today. Ladies and gentlemen, remember we will all stand before the Lord one day. Give an account for what we have done in this life. The accountability aspect, no one avoids that. And for those in positions of authority, they’ll even have more to answer for even more. Thanks for being with us today. God bless you. Take the program, send it along to a friend.