The Israel Fixation: A Political Dilemma, A Prophetical Design
March 19, 2025
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Co-host: Pastor Matt Recker
Guest: Ted Vanlandeghem
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 3/19/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand In the Gap Today because of all the attention swirling around, well, some would say imminent all out war in the Middle East with Israel as the focus and with a specific reference to Israel by President Trump in yesterday’s dialogue between himself and Russia’s Vladimir Putin, I was led of the Lord to focus today’s program on Israel and key geopolitical events regarding Israel. And while we devote much attention to that nation of Israel, the Middle East and biblical prophecy, and we do that because God does, we also do it because not understanding God’s plan for Israel, the nation since God covenanted with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to bring about his God’s plan of redemption. First talked about in Genesis three 15 is if we don’t do that, we’re not able to make sense of the unfolding global and geopolitical events that we see around us.
The title I’ve chosen to frame today’s program is this, the Israel Fixation, a political dilemma, a Prophetical Design. Now my special guest with whom I and co-host Pastor Matt ERs with me today, pastor of Heritage Baptist Church in Manhattan, New York City. Our guest is Mr. Ted Vanden Legum, director of synagogue and church engagement with the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America. They have a website@mj.org. Now, Ted is also the main presenter for a project called the Ancient Hebrew Scroll Project, the only known complete collection of Old Testament manuscripts in ancient squirrel form in the entire world that is able to be viewed by the general public. He’s also a national security expert, a 26 year veteran of the US Air Force, and have served for a time at the White House in Air Force Intelligence. And with that, let me welcome in right now on behalf of Matt and myself, Ted, thanks for being on board today.
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Hey Sam, thanks for having me on.
Sam Rohrer:
Ted to get us started here today. In the past, you’ve given your testimony, I’m not asking you to do that right now, but as a believer in Yeshua, Jesus as the promised Messiah and born of Jewish lineage. Here’s my question just to get us started. How is being a Messianic Jewish believer, how does that affect your view of the world and unfolding biblical prophecy?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Well, Sam, it’s been said that by many Bible scholars that Israel is God’s prophetic alarm clock. And as a messianic Jewish believer, we very much look at Israel that way, that God has brought Israel back into the land, restored her as a nation. After 2000 years as a prophetic super sign, 77 years ago this year, Israel was born again as a nation. And so we’re looking at global events, moving Israel back to the land number one, moving Israel back into ownership of Jerusalem as recently as 2018 being affirmed Jerusalem as her capital, and ultimately back to full control of the Temple Mount in the third temple. All of these things are driving us in the preparation for the promised return of Jesus. And so as a Messianic Jewish believer, we look at all these events regarding Israel in the nations as a prophetic super sign in preparation for Jesus’s promised return.
Matt Recker:
Yeah. Well Ted, it’s so good to have you on the program today. And no doubt this is big in the news these days and I appreciate so much really, Sam, what you said about the importance of understanding God’s plan for Israel in order to make sense of what’s going on today. That is so true. And Ted, in Zechariah chapter 12, the prophet Zacharia, he foretells a time when God is going to make Jerusalem a cup of trembling to all the people roundabout a burdensome stone. It even says in Zechariah chapter 12 verses two and three. So could you share your thoughts on what this biblical prophecy means and in your view, are we seeing at least the beginning of this to be coming fulfilled?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Thank you, Matt, for that question and absolutely what I would say in order to understand what Zachariah is talking about in 12, you really have to go back to Zacharia chapter eight and verse 23. In there it says, there’s this peculiar prophecy there and says, thus, as the Lord of hosts in those days, 10 men from every nation and language of the nation shall grasp hold of the sleeve of a Jewish man saying, let us go with you. For we have heard that God is with you. Well, how do you get 10 men from every nation? And language, Zachariah’s math doesn’t add up the Jewish tradition back then that there were 70 nations. Well, what Zachariah’s talking about is in Hebrew thought is what we call a minion. When we start a new synagogue or a new congregation, you have to have at least 10 men, a minion or a quorum.
And so he’s speaking of a congregation made up of every tribe, tongue and nation, and we know what that is. That’s the church. And in the last days, the church is going to connect with Israel for her restoration. In Zacharia eight, leading up to the events of Zachariah 12, where it says there in verse two and three that God is going to gather all the nations of the world against Jerusalem. That’s never happened before where all the nations of the world have come against Jerusalem. And just last year, 92% of the nations in the UN either voted against Israel or abstained 167 of the 181 nations in the last un vote against Israel. 167 of them were not for Israel. And we’re seeing the shift of the nations moving against Israel, 154 resolutions against Israel between 2015 and 2023 by the UN and the UN nations that are against Israel. And there were only 71 resolutions against all the other nations of the planet. So more than a two to one ratio of resolutions against Israel. And why should we be surprised? Because Zachariah foretold and promised that we would see this, the nations coming against Israel and we’re seeing the scene set for that just as the prophets were told.
Sam Rohrer:
Ted, that’s just an excellent explanation of that. We’re just about to break. But when I look at that passage in Zechariah, the first part talks about Jerusalem, a couple of trembling into all the people, roundabout to me says like an inner circle, which is exactly what we’re seeing today, and then a burdensome stone for all people, the whole world. I mean, it seems to me that we have, that’s almost what we’re witnessing today. And I won’t ask you for a comment, Ted, because we’re about out of time, but ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. Mr. Ted Vanlandeghem, director of synagogue and church engagement with the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America, plus a whole lot more of involvements has joined Pastor Matt Recker as co-host here today with me for this focus, the Israel fixation, a political dilemma, a prophetical design, kind of this thread going through that for the nations of this world, for political leaders, they seem to be fixated with Israel.
They can’t get away from it Zechariah 12, but from God’s perspective, it’s a matter of prophecy right on time, a prophetical design. So that’s the theme for that. We’re going to carry that through. We’re going to go now to Ukraine and Russian well on this program with many different guests and some of the best I think that are available. We’ve analyzed many cases, the war in Ukraine, and of course we’ve had a great involvement as a ministry there. And if you listen regularly, you understand that, but a lot is happening there. A lot of confusing things are happening in that country and have been, but we’ve analyzed it many times. We’ve given much commentary about Ukraine being a proxy war between the larger powers, for instance, of the Western world, American and European globalist most behind it all. And of course the military arm of NATO, that group versus Russia, its centers in Ukraine with the policy efforts of Donald Trump, however, changes of some type are likely in that conflict, that war.
The high level discussion between our president and Russian president, Putin just yesterday have produced some look at it, a number of bullet points that were a summary of what they discussed, but the question is still very, very much up in the air as to whether those talks between those two individuals will lead to peace or only a possible postponement of World War that the Western globalists and European elite so strongly desire. Now I’m being the case. That’s a little bit of a preface. Ted, according to reports coming from the Trump Putin meeting yesterday, I’m going to say as summarized by Leo Holman, I guess we have in his program quite often two of the points of stated agreement reference either Israel or the Middle East. And when I read the summary, and I did listen to some of that interview or some other discussions as well, commentary on it, I thought it was interesting and that fed into this theme today about Israel and the political dilemma that it creates.
But the first point, the agreement that was stated, it says this, the presidents Putin and Trump agreed to start maritime ceasefire talks on the Black Sea, which will begin immediately in the Middle East. So the location of the Middle East, I thought that was interesting. The second was west, and it says in perhaps the greatest breakthrough that the two leaders shared was the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel. I thought that was very interesting. Politically, the world’s leaders verbalized to had more by President Trump than others. They can’t to ignore Israel or the Middle East. Everything keeps going back there. And we had a discussion in the last segment about why, but here’s my question. What are your thoughts on these two supposedly agreed two points from yesterday’s meeting?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Yeah, I think the first one’s really important. The agreement about the cease fire talks on the Black Sea. One of the things about this war between Russia and Ukraine and the war that we’ve seen taking place with Israel and her adversaries principally Iran, is new types of warfare, cutting of undersea data, cables, use of hypersonic weapons, air drones, and sea-based drones. And one of those things, sea-based drones has really been damaging to the Russian Navy. One third of Russia’s naval ships have either been damaged or destroyed by the use of sea-based drones in the Black Sea against the Russian Navy. This has really been devastating to the Russian Navy, and it’s really critical for Putin to get a ceasefire in that area. I think that in response to that, Russia has basically made every ship a target that’s porting in the Ukrainian port, especially grain ships, and that’s put a real pressure on grain supply worldwide.
I wonder if Trump will try to tie this to relieving pressure being put by the Houthis with attacks on ships in the Suez canal. That’s one of the things that I’m looking for from this. The other point, Russia’s agreement that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel, I think is empty words. One of the things that we’ve seen is Russia, China and Iran coming together in formal military alliances. And these three nations are, I believe, part of this Ezekiel alignment of nations along with Turkey and a few others. And we see them informal military agreements in just a few days ago on the 12th, Russia, China and Iran held joint naval exercises in the Gulf, Oman doing live fire exercises in response to a week earlier the US and Israel military exercises preparing air force exercise, preparing for a potential strike on Iran’s nuclear program and Russia has been supplying and along with China missile technology to Iran, nuclear assistance, nuclear energy and nuclear research assistance and technology and missile fuel. That’s one of the things that Iran really needs is Israel knocked out all of their missile fuel capacity, and so they’re relying on North Korea, China and Russia to supply that.
Matt Recker:
Wow. It’s truly incredible days we’re living in, and it’s almost as if we’re seeing these alignments just as the Bible predicts heading towards Armageddon. But Ted yesterday, based on the results of these talks between President Trump and President Putin, how would you evaluate them? Because I noticed as well this morning that hours after Putin said that he would halt attacks on energy infrastructure in Ukraine, that Russia actually bombed Ukraine energy infrastructure. So I’m just wondering how would you evaluate their talk yesterday? Was it productive and substantive or do you think it was more of a media event?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
I’m not sure that it was necessarily productive or reached any real breakthrough. Russia’s got the momentum right now. Ukrainian forces are collapsing in Kiev. Russia has the initiative on all fronts right now. Ukraine has a massive manpower shortage and Russia has the initiative, and I don’t think that they see the need to necessarily give in to any real steps towards a deal. And I don’t think we really saw any real steps towards a deal there. I’m hopeful, but I’m not optimistic about it and it’s concerning to me because Russia really does have the initiative there, and Ukraine is really on its heels in this conflict.
Sam Rohrer:
And following up on that, Ted, is this, during the days of Joe Biden, we talked about you and I, we on this prayer, we talked about how his weakness was inviting the enemies of America to coalesce in all that. Now we have, Trump is the opposite of Biden and is threatening literally everybody including Russia, that if you don’t do what we want, then we’re going to impose more sanctions on you. And now it almost appears to me anyway that because of this overarching you will do what the president says, that the others are almost consolidating themselves in agreement because they don’t like being told what to do. How do you view this change in policy and direction and how it’s working out?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Well, I think Russia and China have both have some level of initiative to come together. And they know that militarily, we have some issues. We’re running short on attack of missiles that we were supplying to Ukraine, we’re running critically short of key things to resupply these munitions and weapon systems like antimony and tungsten, these rare earth minerals and substances needed to resupply these. And we’re using them on a daily basis, firing on the ties, supplying our ally Israel in the Middle East and their fight against Iran and her proxies. And so we are at a shortfall right now and our enemies know it, and I think they feel strengthened by that.
Sam Rohrer:
And see, that’s interesting. And I recall Ted back when Biden was in, he bragged about the fact that when the incursion 2014 happened, and a few years back when Russia came in, he said, we’re going to sanction you. We’re going to bring Russia to its knees. And I remember the guest head on then said, I don’t hardly think that’s going to be the case because prophetically Russia doesn’t seem to be getting weaker. It seems to be getting stronger. Your thoughts on that in the last few minutes?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Well, I think Russia has the momentum. There is the real possibility that Ukraine and its military, I’m not predicting this, I’m just saying it’s a possibility that it could implode and that Russia could see even greater gains in Ukraine or even possibly take over all of Ukraine. And that would strengthen Russia for her last day’s role as a part of that Ezekiel alliance that comes against Israel. And so I definitely see Russia’s position even though we here in the western media that it’s weakened. Russia has increased supply lines for munitions and weapons. Its strategic alliances.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, now I’m just going to have to stop you right now, Ted, just because of time. But again, ladies and gentlemen, even these considerations we’re talking about here, see, again, understanding of biblical prophecy gives us a direction of how we know certain things will come out. That’s why we’re doing what we’re doing today. We’re back in just a minute. Well, if you’re just joining us right now, we’re halfway through the program. Thanks for being on board. If you were not able to catch the first part of the program, please go back and listen to it. You can access it. Stand in the gap radio.com or on our Stand in the Gap app because the second half ties with the first half. My special guest today is Mr. Ted Vanlandeghem. He’s the director of synagogue and church engagement with the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America and a whole lot more, and I gave more of his background in the first segment.
Joining me today is Pastor Matt Recker. He is pastor of Heritage Baptist Church in Manhattan, New York City, and he’s with me today. And Matt, thank you for being on as co-host here on the program. And so if you’re tuning in, you’ll hear these three voices and that’s a little bit about them. So with that being said, we’re going to move now from Ukraine and Russia, which has been a spot, a geographical location. I’m going to say also an ideological engagement effort that we’ve been tracking here for some time. It’s in the news, we know the other hotspot in the world has been the Middle East and it involves Israel. And we talked in the first segment about why it is that it doesn’t just seem that the world is focusing more on the fact of Israel. It’s the fact that it is. They don’t know why necessarily.
And we covered that in the first segment from the book of Zacharia, but the Lord tells us why that’s going to happen, but it’s important to know that now that being the case in the Middle East at the same time, interesting. When Vladimir Putin and President Trump yesterday supposedly agreed together that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel. At that same time, just not long before that in a meeting was held in which the foreign minister of Russia, foreign minister of China and the foreign minister of Iran had just concluded a meeting where they jointly confirmed their ongoing mutual commitment. The three, this trilateral commission group, these three nations, their mutual commitment to each other and their joint opposition to any and all Western sanctions, meaning primarily threats from the Trump administration. Now, that is most interesting and ties right into what you said in the last segment, that you thought that that agreement that’s being talked about, that both sides agreed that Iran should never be in a position you said you didn’t think meant a whole lot.
I’m going to say you were totally right, I think because this meeting just held and it basically invalidates that. Now here’s my question to you. With the US involved right now, the world knows about it, but a much communicated, confirmed by our Secretary of Defense and Marco Rubio, secretary of State as well as out of the White House we’re involved right now. The US is involved in a multi-day effort to eliminate, they say the power of the Houthis in Yemen, the great threat of imminent attack on some type on Iran is also on the table because the president, president Trump has linked it directly Iran directly to the Houthis. And of course we know that that’s the head of the snake as they’re saying. So in regard to the recent Russia, China, Iran meeting, how likely is a US and Israel attack against Iran?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
In my estimation, I think it’s very likely, and for a number of reasons, you see the chess board being set up for this. There’s a lot of pressure on Iran’s proxies of what’s left of them all around via the US and by Israel. And as we mentioned in the earlier portion of the segment that Iran, Russia and China were doing live fire naval exercises in the Gulf of Oman together in response to US Israeli joint exercises for dry run attack on our ranch nuclear program. And I think it has to happen, especially from Israel’s estimation that last year we saw two missile attacks directly from Iran on Israel, which were unprecedented. The first one was cruise missiles, drones and first generation ballistic missiles, and they were all shot down miraculously. But the second attack was different because it had second and third generation ballistic missiles.
And some of those got through, they didn’t do much damage miraculously, but they got through. And that’s the big point. And if those missiles had been armed with a nuclear warhead, it would’ve been a disaster. And so Israel, in her response, they destroyed Iran’s missile making capacity and fuel capacity and a lot of Iran’s undeclared nuclear sites, but there’s still a lot of sites that aren’t addressed in. And Iran is pushing full force ahead for military grade 60% and higher uranium, which would only be for a weapons program. And it’s believed that they have enough for six, maybe more nuclear weapons. And so the time has run out, the time clock has run out. And I believe that the US, along with Israel, is going to strike Iran’s nuclear program.
Matt Recker:
Ted, thank you so much for both your biblical understanding and wisdom in the scripture, but also your military expertise having served for 26 years in our military. And so interesting to listen to your responses to these questions. And so in regards now to Israel and to the Gaza ceasefire that two days ago was ended by President Netanyahu. I have a couple of questions related to this. First of all, were you surprised by this? Second, I guess my question is should they have done it? Another question, I have a number of questions here. What do you think Israel is likely now to do? So were you surprised? Should they have done it? What is Israel likely to do? And my last question tied to this is the world often accuses Israel of committing a genocide against the Palestinian people. And of course we see a lot of protests right here in New York City related to that in some major colleges, very pro-Palestinian. And as Christians, we tend to of course be pro-Israel, but the world is accusing Israel of genocide. So what do you think Israel is likely to do now, and what would you say to those people who say Israel is committing a genocide?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Well, I’ll go ahead and speak to that last question first and then I’ll jump back to your first questions. In regards to the accusation that Israel’s committing a genocide, you have to look at history. And especially just in the last few years, in 2005, Israel unilaterally pulled out of Gaza, gave over some, I think 22 kibbutz that were agricultural kibbutz that were some of the most productive on planet earth and infrastructure and equipment without anything in return. And shortly after that, Hamas was elected into power in Gaza and took over. And from that time forward, it’s been nothing but missiles and rockets by the tens of thousands raining down on Israel. And so you have to look, Israel has done gesture after gesture offer after offer over 90% of what they asked for in the camp. David accords in it. Every time in the last 80 years, every peace effort has been met with opposition.
So that’s my answer to that. Israel has tried to broker piece, tried to be a good partner for peace, and what she has received in return is attack after attack after attack. Now, as far as am I surprised? No, I knew that Israel needed to go and finish the job in Gaza, it’s very complex. You’re talking about hundreds and hundreds of miles of tunnel, some of them going several stories deep into the ground. Military command and control centers, weapons and ammunition, storage and underground fortresses and communication centers and missile launching facilities. All of these have to be destroyed. And all of the infrastructure of Hamas has to be destroyed because Hamas doesn’t want peace. Hamas will never come to the peace table with Israel. They want to destroy Israel. And the Jewish people eradicate Israel from the land. And what I think is coming up, the other question you asked, well, if you look just a couple days ago, in a span of a few hours, Israel prosecuted 30 strikes on military targets in Syria, multiple strikes on Hezbollah targets in Lebanon, they alerted Iraq of possible impending strikes on terror targets. There the US was prosecuting strikes on the proxies, and the Houthis fired a ballistic missile at Israel. Well, actually one that landed in Egypt and another one that landed in the south of Israel. And so Israel is going after all of these proxies, including the remnants of Hamas in Gaza Strip, because they cannot afford to let them come back to power. And the calculus has to be changed. The Palestinians can really never come back to a ruling position in Gaza for Israel to have safety and security on our border there.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and Ted, you’ve laid it out. You’ve made a great case for all of that. We’re out of time, but I did want to go to Turkey. What I’m going to ask you is this. I’m going to ask you to think about a one minute response. We’ve talked about Turkey, the US CIA and others ended up forcing out the Assad family, but now there’s a void. Turkey appears to be filling that void. And so here’s a question to think about this answer. First thing, when we come back, where do you think that’s going to lead? Do we see a Turkey Israel engagement and put together a biblical prophetical component to that piece as well? And then ladies and gentlemen, you don’t want to miss that answer, but we’re going to move to Israel now in a matter of worship. Passovers coming up, there’s been a great emphasis on temple, temple worship, red heifers, temple preparation, all of those things.
We’re going to conclude this program by talking about that and getting an update. You don’t want to miss that. Alright, we’re entering into our final segment. And Ted, I’m going to go directly to you and just have you give a brief comment because we can’t escape this discussion today without having some comment on what is happening in Syria with a new regime replacing the Assad regime, but where we are seeing increased persecution of Christians and Jews. And here’s the question, do you see Turkey who would like to establish a new Ottoman Empire and very hateful of Jews and Christians directly? Do you see them coming to power in Syria?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Absolutely. What that’ll look like, whether they rule through proxies or they take over that area directly and incorporate it into a new Ottoman Empire is yet to be seen. But I look at Turkey, I expect them to extend their influence into Lebanon in the power vacuum of Hezbollah. They’ve already extended their influence into Syria and into Northern Iraq. Those are three areas where I’m looking at Turkey, really pressing the initiative. Turkey last year was the hundredth anniversary of the fall of the Cate Ottoman Turk Empire was defeated in 1918, but it wasn’t until 1924 that the caliphate collapsed. And Turkey believes that this is the time prophetically for them to resurrect the caliphate, the Islamic super state. And they’re really pushing and they believe that they’re the ones who have the rightful responsibility to bring that about. And you see Turkey coming into direct confrontation in Israel. And now Turkey via her proxy is directly on Israel’s border. And so we see Turkey moving away from NATO on military ascendancy wanting to join the Bricks Alliance, and they’re the second largest military force in NATO, and they want to exploit and take control of the oil and gas deposits in the Mediterranean between Cypress. And
Sam Rohrer:
There you go, ladies and gentlemen. If there’s not enough there to make your ears perk up, nothing will keep an eye on Turkey. We’ll revisit that again, Ted, in just a couple of weeks. On Saturday, April the 12th, the Jewish observance of Passover begins and it extends through Sunday, April the 20th, our Easter Sunday. Now, along with this historically important time of celebration, worship, there are other related events which bear comment, and we could spend a whole lot more time than we have. But first of all, within religious Jewish observance, how important is the Passover observance And this question, are there any historic events over time, for instance, connected with the Passover observance? Other than of course, the exodus from Egypt?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Absolutely. Passover is really the heartbeat of the Jewish people. It’s central to Jewish faith. It’s foundational, and it’s the first of seven prophetic appointments given in Leviticus 23. And it’s the first one celebrated on the biblical calendar in the month of Nissan. And so it’s very essential. And historically, just in the last few years, Israel starting in 2015, did its first practice run for a third temple Passover and has continued to do that year after year, culminating with 20 20, 23, where just after Passover in the fall of that year, they received red heifers. And really Israel’s been on a full tilt course for preparations for a third temple. And one of the things standing in the way of that is the need for a red heifer to purify the Khan, the priesthood for the beh, the third temple. And so like I said, starting in 2015 on Mount Scopus, they did their first ritual reenactment of Passover. They are really preparing for a third temple via Passover
Matt Recker:
Well, with these significant preparations to begin this third temple. And they’re trying to have a red heifer for that. And it seems like the Muslims see the red heifer as a direct threat to Israel coming in, taking over the Temple Mount. So can you give us further updates on the matter of red heifers and any temple site dedication and connection to these things, to the Passover as well as other spring feast observances?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Yeah, absolutely. So the Red Heifers, it’s kind of a mysterious subject for the church world, but the Red Heifer in the ashes of the Red Heifer were used to purify the priesthood or the koine, and with the destruction of the temple, they haven’t had a red heifer in possession in Israel. A local man in my county where I live in Texas, Johnson County, Texas, a guy by the name of Byron Stinson, he from his ranch provided the five red heifers that Israel now has in possession. And they’re keeping in a place called Sheila, which was where the tabernacle resided in Israel for 400 years. And so this was really the final block that needed to be taken care of for them to move forward with an actual third temple. In the beginning of building a third temple, they needed an operating priesthood, and in order for them to have a priesthood that was kosher and sanctified, they needed ashes of a red heifer.
And so there is a possibility that this Passover that’s coming up or sha after that, we could see the sacrifice of one of these. They have five red heifers, four of ’em are considered kosher that they have in Sheila. And if one of those were to be sacrificed and the ashes were made available, you could see the priesthood cleanse ritually cleansed for services either for Shavuot in summer at the beginning of summer or for the fall feast in time for Yom Kippur in the fall of this year. Now, I’m not saying for sure it’s going to happen, but I had an opportunity to talk directly with the man who acquired these red heifers and met the national religious broadcasters. And they’re really full tilt ahead in their preparations for the third temple. It’s not just the red heifers. They have made the clothing for the garments for the priests. They’ve returned the biblical harp, they have done dry runs for all of the biblical holidays. They’ve cut the foundation stones for the third temple. They’ve tried to actually place them a couple of times on the temple mounts. They set up a school in MIT per year ago just outside of Jerusalem to train the priesthood for third temple procedures and activities and sacrifices. So really keep your eye on this Passover, the Shavuot. If we see one of these red heifers processed this year, that could be a major prophetic milestone in preparation for the third temple.
Sam Rohrer:
Ted, we’re just about done. But I got to ask you this question because of this sometime ago, there was a word came out from within Israel that, well, they didn’t think any of the heifers were actually going to qualify, and the response was, well, some would look and say, well, yeah, would Israel actually make public to the Arab world that they actually have the one ready to go and they’re going to do the ceremony likely that when that heifer is sacrificed, we’re not going to know until after it’s done, right?
Ted Vanlandeghem:
Yeah, I don’t think we’ll necessarily know until the action of the ritual purification of the third temple priesthood. It was reported by CBN and several other entities that the Hamas attacks on October 7th were in response to Israel receiving the five red heifers in September of 2022.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and Ted, I’m going to let them and let that stand right there. We’re out of time. Thank you so much for being with us today. Ladies and gentlemen. Go back and listen to the program again. We could go so much further, but we can’t. We’re just out of time. Pastor Matt Recker, thanks for being on with me today as well. And ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being a part. We just wouldn’t have a program. If you are not there, listen to the program again, and it’s been a benefit and encouragement to you. Share it with a friend. That’s probably the best thing that you can do. Share this program and where they can get it with a friend.
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