Surrounded and Under Attack: Health Freedom in America
August 20, 2025
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Twila Brase
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 8/20/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand In the Gap Today, and it’s also our monthly focus on health freedom with Twila Brase, president and co-founder of Citizens Council for Health Freedom with their website@cchfreedom.org. Now, while western governments, including America here in our nation and their respective controlled media because the every nation has them, they’re currently consumed, I believe at this moment in time with last Friday’s Trump Putin Alaskan meeting and then followed up by the Washington DC meeting with our president and then selected European leaders. But through these things at this moment in time, because it does change from week to week, but efforts through this is being made in many ways to keep the American public distracted from other things that have been well preceded it and are going to go along probably beyond it. Things such as, for instance, the Epstein Saga.
In all of its many implications, there are many in addition, as I’ve discussed in previous programs, strategically crafted distractions come from the highest levels of government that are designed to keep people from focusing on core issues. Well core issues such as, for instance, the collapsing US dollar, which is happening and it’s in slow motion, but it’s a part of what’s taking place when people ready to look at that. Preparations are already being made for an imminent global financial reset. It’s going to come out of all of this, but that’s been happening for a long time and it’s increasing or this from the understanding that the reality of our truly, I’m going to say dysfunctional uniparty political system in Congress and the entire system for some time has just been totally corrupted. It’s run by bribery and by pragmatism. We see it all the time. It’s undeniable as we’ve talked in many occasions from different perspectives that as a foundation for the running of our nation and our thinking and all truth and justice have fallen in the streets.
They do not prevail right now. And the changes in law that we see being debated and passed are driven not by God’s moral law that’s obvious, not by the Constitution. That’s obvious too, or anything remotely done in the fear of God. And that is obvious by, there is no consideration of those things. What’s it driven by pragmatism and political expediency. And that is what drives the kind of things that we’re seeing now. All of this being said, large ongoing events, some like we just talked about, we routinely witness are created distractions. Their theater merely pulling people’s away from fundamental, systemic and structural changes that are occurring in law in our nation and that are directly attacking our freedom and our health freedom. That brings us to our focus today. The theme and the title I’ve chosen today to focus our discussion is this Surrounded and under Attack Health Freedom in America. And with that I welcome to the program, right again, Twila Brase and Twila, thanks for being back.
Twila Brase:
Oh, I’m glad to be here. Thank you so much Sam
Sam Rohrer:
Twila since you were with me last, A lot has happened and a lot of things have impacted some for the good and some not for so good on the matter of health freedom. But one of the most sweeping impacts because it was in law is the Trump administration’s recent July 4th, big beautiful bell. I’ve often called it the big budget buster legislation because there’s two sides of sword there. But from your perspective, how do you see the provisions of that bill impacting freedom and health freedom in America? Start with the positive changes here first as you see them.
Twila Brase:
Yeah, so I see several things. It expands the access to health savings accounts, not enough as far as I’m concerned, but it does allow people with catastrophic and bronze coverage off of the Obamacare exchange to have a health savings account and they couldn’t have one before. It also protects direct primary care clinics and it does that by allowing your payments to them to be paid for by insurance. Because the interesting thing is that those who don’t want direct primary care clinics to exist have said that these DPC clinics are insurance because people who have a DPC doctor often pay monthly, quarterly, or annually for a whole boatload of services, including sometimes email access and texting on the weekends and all sorts of things. And government folks and others who have wanted to D six DPC clinics and have wanted to have them called insurance instead of medical care.
But of course all they are is medical care. That’s the only thing that’s being provided and it’s being provided by doctors and others. And so this says that insurance can pay for up to $150 for a single person or $300 for a couple per month. So really this is the first time in federal law that direct primary care clinics have been really acknowledged in a way that would be protective for them. So that’s a great thing. It establishes a pandemic response accountability committee to sort of look at where all those COVID dollars are and where they’re sitting and where they haven’t been used. And I think probably ultimately to call them back to claw back those dollars from those folks who never used them for anything and are just holding onto them, it makes it more difficult for people in Medicare and Medicaid to, I’m sorry, it makes it more difficult for illegals to get Medicaid or Medicare or for anybody else who is not eligible. It reduces eligibility, it tightens requirements, it eliminates loopholes, it makes fraud more difficult. And then I guess the last thing that I’d say is, and it’s not necessarily to healthcare, but there are 28 executive orders from Trump that are now turned into law and by turning them into law, it makes them difficult to undo because if they just stay as executive orders, the next president comes in and can simply just rescind them all. So this way it would actually take an act of Congress to rescind them.
Sam Rohrer:
Alright, so those are some significant things. We don’t have much time right now, but do you, and we’ll perhaps build it out a little bit more in the program, but are there any things that work against or fight against health freedom that you see potentially as being within this same piece of legislation?
Twila Brase:
Well, I don’t know exactly about fighting specifically against health freedom. There are lots of things I wish were in there that would actually decrease the deficits in the country that are not in there. But I don’t necessarily think of anything that specifically goes against health freedom. We’re just going to do up Florida.
Sam Rohrer:
Alright, well that’s good. So you are the one who are watching these areas, so we’re going to let that right there. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. Our focus today is this surrounded and under attack, health freedom in America. We looked at some legislation here we come back, we’re going to talk about other things that are taking place that are not as a direct result of that bill, but other things that are taking place that don’t look good for health freedom. We’ll talk about some of them as well. Well if you’re just joining us, welcome board, great to be with you here today. No matter where you may be listening, literally around the world to the program, one of our favorite focuses, at least your favorite focuses as I hear from people across the country, is this program that we do regarding health and health freedom with Twila Braise who is the president and co-founder of Citizens Council for Health Freedom.
So if you’re just tuning in, that is the program today. And our focus and our theme today is this surrounded and under attack health freedom in America. Now, we gave some positive aspects in the last segment. If you missed it, have to go back and listen to it. But we’re going to move into some other things that are taking place that have a direct impact, one way or the other on our health. Freedom. Now by God’s design and mirrored within our constitution is one of the core purposes of legitimate government. You know what that is? It is to establish justice. Those words literally are in our constitution and they are within scripture. Romans 13, among other places. Of course, justice is only possible when there’s a common understanding of the definition of truth, which is the underpinning of justice and where those in government, those who administrate and cause justice to happen or not to happen, if those people who are in those positions limit and conform their votes and their decisions according to this common definition of moral truth, God’s definition of moral truth, and in our country the constitution and their oath to support constitution, those two work together and that’s how it’s done.
Now, only when this approach disciplined approach is kept and put into place is the operative worldview. I’ll put it that way, where this is the case where will law and the administration of law be just and where standards of law, fixed law that you can count on and the regulations that come from that law and other policies, it’s only then that those things can become predictable and consistently enforceable. Anything other than that approach produces the climate of injustice and forever changing government laws in the whims of those in government as we see in dictatorships all around the world through the history of time and around our world today, as well as unfortunately what I believe we are witnessing in American government and culture and institutions on a wide range of things. Now when God is ignored, truth is redefined and justice is then distorted standards of competency and what is excellent or not excellent acceptable, not acceptable based on definition of truth.
Those things also go out the window and there is perhaps nowhere where this principle is more clearly seen, I think, than in the area of health where health freedom then comes under attack. Now, all of that set up for this purpose Twila during COVID, one of the things that we witnessed was the historical safety standards for research and testing, for instance, of things regarding vaccines as an example, or the methods of reporting data such as the VE system, those things that were put in place to monitor and bring accountability and predictability to the American people. Those were suddenly just thrown out the window. And I’d like to revisit some of that in just a moment. But all that is to give us some predictability with proven standards of which people can trust. But this is changing, it appears. And one of those things that you’ve identified and brought together is the idea of how things are changing in regard to training and standards for doctors and health providers. Would you share what you know about that?
Twila Brase:
Yes. So I believe there are only 12 schools out of 150, some schools that still have A, B, C, D, and F when it comes to grades. So grading of the physicians or the medical students’ skills, all the other schools are now pass fail. And so they have decided that pass fail is more, it’s more or it’s less emotionally challenging, that it’s just difficult for these medical students to have to deal with a C or a D or maybe even a B. And so it’s better for them to do pass fail. Well, there’s at least two things to say about this. One of the things is if getting a C or a D is emotionally challenging and puts a doctor over the edge or causes extreme anxiety or whatever it is,
Then they probably don’t belong being a doctor because that is what happens. You have to handle really stressful situations when you are making medical decisions in the ER, in the ICU, in the exam room, when there’s patient after patient, you have to be able to be on the top of your game and able to deal with the stress and think clearly and carefully in the midst of that entire situation. And if you cannot handle getting an A, B, C or just getting a grade and you just need to know that you passed or failed, you probably don’t belong in that position.
But the other thing is, I had a physician tell me, do you understand how competitive physicians are? So this takes out all the competition. They’re just like, okay, no matter how good or bad the people are around them, whether they’re excellent or not excellent, if they’ve done just enough to pass, they pass. And so there’s absolutely no accolades for anybody who is excellent. And it’s all been dumbed down to a simple pass, even if somebody is very bad at what they’re doing, but not bad enough to get a fail. And it’s dangerous. It’s dangerous for people. So that’s one of the big things that we have found. And there’s a wonderful story about UCLA and how some of those medical students don’t give basic biology and other things that you have to know as a doctor. So it’s incredibly dangerous for patients and it needs to change.
Sam Rohrer:
Well, it does need to change and unfortunately it only changes when these people get into positions and patients die or they’re not treated. But I do see where I think the government bureaucrats have a solution to this and we’re going to talk about that in the next segment, ladies and gentlemen a little bit. So stay tuned to stay with us on that. But this is not a good thing. Obviously it makes sense. I don’t want an F doctor. I don’t want a D doctor. I want an A doctor. Alright, okay, let’s go on to this because those changes were what used to be in effect as an example of the things that we’re talking about in this segment. Standards. If the standards change where you can’t even measure the result is you have no confidence in them and it’s all dumbed down as you said.
Now, let’s go back and revisit if you like to comment on this because during the C time again, so how people remember what happened, COVID came on the scene, the president Donald Trump, it was that point. He’s the one encountered it declared a national emergency. Once that national emergency was declared, it allowed for the suspension of law. Everything changed, suspended, and that’s how everything unfolded, the way it unfolded. But one of the things that happened as a result of that was that it permitted the use of what called EU age. Remember that ladies and gentlemen, emergency use authorization. That’s what allowed warp speed development implementation of the COVID shot as an example among other things, well back to you now, just in the last little while, I have seen a number of things that have come out of government that have just been given approval under emergency use authorizations. Now to me that’s a problem because what’s standard and everything seems to be still thrown out. What are you seeing in regard to that and what are your thoughts about having any kind of medical standard being delivered at this point under a emergency use authorization?
Twila Brase:
Well, clearly if the EUAs stand, then the COVID shot can continue to be given. Then everything that happens under the emergency use authorization, whether there were less stringent requirements for protective equipment or whether there were less stringent requirements for research being done for these shots, whatever it is, it stays in place. Now just so that we’re clear, I believe so I know that the national emergency that Trump declared that was rescinded by Biden in May, 2023. But I believe if I’m correct about this, that the emergency that comes out of HHS is still in place. And I think that that is probably why the EUAs continue, because Biden lifted it in May, 2023, which stopped certain things, but there were two different emergencies declared. One as a public health and one is a national. I believe the public health fund is still in place
Sam Rohrer:
And that makes sense. You don’t have much time you can come back, but just in brief, can medical reliability and health freedom as we know it remain when there are standards that change what we’re talking about?
Twila Brase:
Well, no, and of course that’s everybody. That’s why there’s been so much harm, right? Because they impose the EUA and they said, yeah, we didn’t do enough research to make sure these are safe or effectively no matter what we’re telling you. But they are able to be given. They’re able to be mandated, they’re able, they’re able, they’re able, right? And so there is no emergency that all emergencies should be listed.
Sam Rohrer:
Right? Ladies and gentlemen, I think you get the idea on that. So health freedom can be challenged in a lot of ways, but most of the time it starts with some kind of a law or a change in the law. Anyways, we’ll just leave it there. When we come back, we’re going to talk about changes in law occurring and how coverage health and health coverage is being impacted. Well, Twila some time ago, Medicare, they have trustees that are part of, they called Medicare trustees stated that Medicare as a system, Medicare will run out of money three years sooner than was projected just last year. Now it’s now expected to be insolvent in just eight years based on that. That’s 2033. Now, from my opinion, we’ve talked about this at length on other programs and all that, but to me, when I hear things like this, warnings about insolvency, these dates now 2033 Medicare, three years earlier than projected are kind of in that category of social security threats and their insolvency.
And it’s been happening for a long time or even insolvency of our nation where we’re now 37 trillion in debt. It’s been talked about for a long time and somehow it just keeps floating along. So therefore sometimes people don’t take it seriously and congress steps in and they work some magic tricks and most of it borrowing more money and so forth. But all that being the case, you’re looking at this issue of Medicare because it plays a prominent role in healthcare coverage in this country. But from your perspective, what is the truth about the IM of the recent Medicare trustees projection?
Twila Brase:
Well, I think that they’ll try to never let the program go bankrupt by simply reducing payments to doctors, payments to hospitals, replacing physicians with non-physicians. So the cost is less, but the care, but the expertise is also significantly less. And I think what we are seeing now with Dr. Oz in place is that they’re bringing Medicare Advantage prior authorization, in other words, rationing into original Medicare. And so this is an interesting thing that has transpired with Dr. Oz, and we did not want Dr. Oz in his position because Dr. Oz wants Medicare advantage for all. So he wants everybody in the health plan that’s allowed to ration care and has the approval of the government to do so. But because everybody is not agreeing to go into Medicare, into Medicare advantage, even though Medicare Advantage offers $0 premiums now starting in January in six states, there will be prior authorizations for about 20 or 25 procedures.
I can’t remember the exact number, but I believe that that is just the beginning. And they’re going to be paying a company, I don’t know what company it is, and it could even be a health plan, a health plan that just starts another division to do prior authorization in original Medicare. Anyway, those people will have financial incentives to find care that is not medically necessary and deny it. So I think that this is probably what they’ll do. They’ll just keep until it can’t happen anymore because this is a politically hot football seniors vote. But seniors should be voting for something else. They should be voting for the freedom to get out of the program and have real insurance that’s affordable and only for catastrophic conditions. That’s what seniors should be voting for, but that’s not what they’re given. And I would just like to say that I have decided that Medicare is age discrimination. It’s age discrimination in this country. You should be able to buy real health insurance no matter what age you are at. But when you are 65, you are forced into Medicare. And if you do not take Medicare, you will not get your social security benefits. So I think we should look at Medicare as a rationing program, Medicare Advantage as the rationing tool within the program that is creeping now into original Medicare and age discrimination as the trap that’s keeping everybody in this rationing system.
Sam Rohrer:
I think that’s a great point. And it is, you have no choice. So yeah, there’s intimidation a part of that. There’s bribery as a part of that. There’s all kinds of things. Yeah, there’s an issue. Now I understand, I have the bill in front of me, but I don’t have the right section here, but there are changes in the bill the way we’re talking about the BBB bill, the big beautiful bill that does impact some things in this whole area of Medicare according to what I am seeing, that there are changes that are being made effective the first of next year that some are saying actually kind of pulls down current structure of what we have, but doesn’t necessarily replace it with something sufficient to actually replace it to do the kind of things you’re talking about. You mentioned health savings accounts as an example. So here’s my question to you in this regard. What else is happening right now in the system of government law relative to healthcare that is contributing to this driving up of costs for Medicare or for whatever? Is there anything that’s happening now? Is there anything that’s happening as far as you’re concerned by government law that is helping to prevent continued escalating cost and therefore the move into rationing as you just talked about? Is there anything,
Twila Brase:
Well, there are plenty of things to go into the direction of rationing, but are you asking me if there are things to go on the opposite way into freedom and not rationing?
Sam Rohrer:
That’s what I’m asking. Now, obviously you are doing things and pushing the cash system, and I want you to go there because you are offering that. And there is that thing the sister. But as a matter of law as you are seeing it, is there anything in the BBB or is there anything that’s sitting there by law that is moving towards a real true solution? Or is it just shuffling the chairs on the desk?
Twila Brase:
Yeah, not that I know.
Sam Rohrer:
Yeah, I don’t either. That was my question. I don’t either.
Twila Brase:
Yeah, so there’s so many things. So I mentioned turning original Medicare into Medicare Advantage. They’re just doing it by state, by state, procedure by procedure. But there are other attempts to tighten the screws as it were, and things like there’s a bill to automatically enroll people into Medicare Advantage. So they’re not only bringing prior authorization and rationing into the original Medicare program, but they want for anybody new coming into Medicare, they want to have them be automatically enrolled into Medicare Advantage. And then only once they figure it out they can opt out. But we don’t even know how long they could possibly opt out because that particular bill, which I think that’s a SCHREKER bill, I believe it’s a SCHREKER bill anyway, it would keep you in there, lock you in for three years, lock you into Medicare Advantage for three years. And of course when it comes to other things that they’re doing, they’re bringing AI in and letting AI sort of nudge doctors into certain decisions and pull data from different places to make certain assessments about whether care should or should not be given.
And of course, this whole movement of the electronic health records really forced so many doctors out private practice and into employment where they are now having to do what their employer says in order to have a job. So they’re having to follow these protocols. And if you’re 65 and over, the protocols are different for people in those ages. And so I think patients have no idea. A lot of us here have no idea exactly how all of these things will come together, but the whole idea here is to save Medicare. And by saving Medicare, I just mean like the facade of Medicare to keep it there, even though it’s rationing care, even though people are unhappy, even though you can’t get the medication that the doctor says it’s right, even though to just keep it in place and say that they saved Medicare. But meanwhile they’re not saving patients. Saving patients is to let them out of Medicare and gives them an affordable option, which lets them go anywhere and put the money in their hands. I
Sam Rohrer:
Mean, yeah, well see, Twila. And I agree with you a hundred percent. And I think that as things are happening, because the reason I ask you, is there anything at law that you see, I don’t see anything that’s actually leading us towards a solution. I see nothing. I see what is happening leads us towards keeping government directly in the middle. And it’s my assessment that what’s being set up is artificial intelligence, which we’ve heard so much about being put in place that’s going to end up being that doctor in the office and AI that’s going to be the smartest of anybody. And it’s going to be the answer to the efficiency problem. I think it’s going to be government’s answer and people are going to say, oh, give it to me because nothing else works. I mean, I see that coming, but comment on that. But then just briefly, why is the push to cash that you’ve been talking about so much of the real alternative?
Twila Brase:
Well, first of all on ai, yes, this is supposedly the savior of everything, but it’s just going to take data from whoever it’s going to take data from and however it’s programmed and whatever the biases are in it. And of course it doesn’t think, there’s no thinking in AI and there’s no ethics in ai. There’s no morality in ai. And ultimately in healthcare, there’s a lot of ethics and morality and are you a professional treating a patient or are you just a machine treating a patient? And I think that has to be thought of.
Sam Rohrer:
Yes, it does indeed. And I think that’s excellent. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we’ve talked a lot about ai. That’s not our purpose here, but to say that within the context of this healthcare is so important to all of us who makes the decisions ultimately is the key. And anyways, we’ll leave it there. We come back, I’ll ask TWI to give just a little bit more thought on the benefit of cash interaction and then we’ll go into one of the areas we’ve talked a lot about and that is the real ID and the status of where that now sits. Okay. Twila is very going into our final segment before we go into getting an update on this item of real id, which we’ve talked about for so long because it does have an impact on health freedom as well. Can you just give us a short apologetic Marla perspective of why the push for patients to use cash payment with their physicians as an example, works and works so well?
Twila Brase:
Yes. Well, it works like the whole rest of purchasing works around the world. The person who holds the cash in their hands is the one who holds the power and it actually forces whoever the provider, whoever the producer, whoever these people are that want your money, it forces them to have a price that is agreeable to the majority of people. It forces them to give information about the thing that they’re selling. It forces them to have a transparent price so that everybody can see what it is and it forces them to be aligned themselves with the person who is buying the product. They want to please the buyer. Right now, the buyer is the government and the health plans. And so the government and the health plans are the ones who are negotiating with the doctor with what you’ll get. And you’re just there to get whatever they decide.
You are not in a powerful position as a patient today. And we need patients to be in powerful positions, the ones that the whole healthcare system is supposed to be for, and they’re the ones who have the most at stake. And the doctors should be working on the basis of professionalism and ethics and morals based on that patient. His lives are at stake, so we have to get back to cash and real health insurance. And real health insurance pays the patient. And then every price is transparent. Every doctor, every hospital is working for the patient who holds the dollars and all the prices will come down. They’ll be just like the surgery center of Oklahoma where the prices are up to 90% less than the hospital up the street, and it’ll take all those third party payers out of there. That’s what’s costing all the money, all the people that are between the patient and the doctor, the data companies, the analytic companies, the money distribution companies, the lawyers, everything, all that money leaves and all the prices come down. And then accurate and excellent medical care can be had, which is now more difficult.
Sam Rohrer:
And ladies and gentlemen, I think that makes sense. Most of you listening to me right now, you know the benefit of that. It makes sense. But if a number I heard was just correct, I think it’s like 50 some percent or 60% of people, particularly younger people particularly when asked about should there be a government program to guarantee healthcare. The numbers are way up there. So there’s a lot of people who don’t fundamentally understand the benefit of what Lyla just said, but all of us who have been used to using cash and working with people and remember what it was before we ever start, were confronted with Hillary care, which then led to Obamacare. Within all of these things that we’re talking these government programs, we remember what it was like. Anyway. So all that being said, fundamentally from biblical worldview perspective, government’s purpose never is in scripture to do those things such as healthcare.
Socialism says today we should. But there again, that’s the basis where it is. Worldviews do make a difference. Okay, Twila in the remaining moments here now as well, update on real ID because we were talking about a lot before that may date came and went. We’re past that point. The move with all of the funding of data centers and AI data centers and information analysis with the contract of a hundred and some million dollars to Palantir, who’s working with them? All of this information from governments being taken put together and biometrics or real ID is a part of this. So anyways, put it together. Where do we now sit on this issue?
Twila Brase:
Okay, I want to give you that update on real id, but I just have to change something, correct? Something I said earlier in this broadcast, all the emergency declarations have been lifted, but the interesting thing for emergency use authorizations is that the secretary can extend them without any kind of emergency being in place. So just know that they’re all lifted. Okay?
Now when it comes to real id, yes, we’ve gone past the so-called May 7th deadline. It was never a deadline because there’s a rule out which gives another deadline, which is May 5th, 2027. This is a progressive enforcement rule, so they’re just trying to get everybody to switch over to the real ID and give up their fourth amendment rights, give up their 10th amendment rights, and just move forward into what certainly could easily become a social credit system for America. It’s going to be digitized, put on your phone, and the government will have remote access. That is what the DMVs testified to Congress. It’s going to be biometrically controlled. And so we are working very hard to get people to refuse the real ID and get rid of the real ID that they have. And we have instructions at refuse real. id.org refuse real id.org. We have instructions, we have instruction sheets.
We have five facts about real id. You can share with everybody that you know that is eye opening. And then we’ve got 10 states now where there are legislators who are moving in some way, shape or form to try to stop real id. And then we are talking to state AG’s to essentially ask them to do their job, which is to protect federalism, so protect the states from being commandeered by the federal government. And we are working on to get a legal analysis of real id. So I guess I would say stay tuned, but we are also working on other ways to get more people to know have been in a lot of podcasts, including dark horse podcasts, which is almost 400,000 views now. And so it’s a very hot issue and people are really surprised that they don’t realize what this is. They think they gave up their privacy already, so there’s nothing to worry about, but that’s not true.
You can just ignore the privacy that you gave up with those documents and focus on the fact of all the data that they’re going to collect through a digitized real ID that tells where you are and what you’re doing and how they’re going to use it to control you, limit your transactions. The fact of the matter is real ID can be expanded into everything that you can think of to restricting everything that they can think of and saying that you need a real ID to do it. That’s what the law says. So people have got to turn them in, get a state driver’s license, they’ve got to not get the real id, so refuse a real ID. If they don’t have it yet. They’ve got to tell everyone that they know because we can’t let the government succeed. And the more people turn it around, the more difficult it’s going to be for them to just suddenly put the hammer down and impose it. We are asking people if they drive trucks around the country, if they would like to have a banner on their truck, or if your listeners know somebody with a truck semi that’s on our side on this, wouldn’t that be great?
Sam Rohrer:
Yeah, it’s a good idea. It’s Twila and I think ladies and gentlemen, go to Twila’s website, CCH freedom.org. There’s a lot of information there relative to the things she just talked about, a great place to go. So I’d encourage you to do that. And then just let you know that tomorrow on this program, I am going to have the individual that was the country’s leading expert on biometrics. He and I worked on trying to stop real ID when it first came out as a matter of law, right after nine 11. And our theme tomorrow is going to be this imminent surveillance and control, connecting the dots of technology information and biometrics. And we’ll define those terms and we will identify the components of control and the kind of thing that can trigger them coming together, because right now they are merging, and that does include real id or at least the biometric piece that is underneath that. So that being the case, listen to us tomorrow, be with us…Twila Brase. Thank you so much for being here today. As always, CCH freedom.org is their website and of course, our website. Stand on the gap radio.com. Ladies and gentlemen, listen to the program again and send it along to a friend.
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