Perilous Days are Here

Perilous Days are Here

September 11, 2025

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Co-host: Dr. Isaac Crockett

Guest: JR McGee

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 9/11/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.

Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to another Stand in the Gap Today program. And as I and special guest Michael Snyder said yesterday on this program, the incidents of major events, unexpected and historic events are happening so fast that it’s frankly humanly impossible to keep up with everything. And if you did not listen to that program, I would trust that you may go back and pick that up in archive form because we covered so much of the big, big issues of, well, things that we’re hearing, but frankly are fake things that we’re hearing. We talked about that yesterday and making this point while we were doing the program live yesterday, the assassination as we all now know of a well-known in rising 31-year-old young leader by the name of Charlie Kirk. When we were talking yesterday in this program, the early stages of preparation by that individual who ultimately took his life was taking place.

And just minutes after we concluded this program, we now know historically a shot rang out and Charlie was shot in leaving there, a stunned college campus there in Utah, an audience that was watching who then began to run. Many of you probably have seen that video clip. And as well, Charlie’s wife and two children were stunned, maybe more than anyone else because they’re now without him. And many observers as well across the nation were shocked, shocked and are grieving. And of course, this is now something appropriately highlighted in the news 24 years ago today, many who are listening to me right and wrong, remember very well an incident there on nine 11 when that began to unfold. It was about just a little over an hour ago from the time I’m actually doing this program now where I remember where I was on that day in Pittsburgh and how things changed.

Well, there’s an entire generation of young people who were either frankly not born or too young to remember that event, but they do remember the event that just happened yesterday. But you put these two events together and whereas it gives all kinds of reasons for commentary within the news, I think at the end of the day it should really cause us all to back up. It’s really for us the living to consider, well, what’s actually taking place, what took place to look back and take stock of then where we are as a nation look back and look around. But even more importantly, I think it should cause us all to look to God above, which if you’re listening to me, you remember those of you who are alive who remember nine 11, you remember exactly the attitude of Nu America then where the entire nation was in shock. And for a moment in time, a couple of weeks maybe everybody started to go back to church. There were meetings given to prayer, there was a lot of discussion and a lot of focus on God and how did all of this happened? But it quickly disappeared, didn’t it?

I’m going to submit that what’s most important right now is for us to look to God. Yes, consider all that has happened yesterday. Look back and consider what happened on nine 11. Look back beyond to consider what’s happened in the history of this nation and in submission with bowed knee to God and with a humble heart, repent of our self-sufficiency and with clarity of mind, determine to return to God to re-embrace biblical truth and rebase brace, a fear and a commitment and a submission to his word. So in reality, we know that the world will not do this. We know the world’s not going to do this. As the scripture says, it will happen, but in arrogant ways, the world will lift its fists to the God of heaven. And that means the majority of our own people in our nation will lift their fists to heaven.

And well just opposite what Christ says, the Bible says, we’ll look to our own understanding and we’ll look to government and human leaders for an explanation which they won’t give and for hope and safety for which they will offer but cannot deliver. So why do I say this? Well, that’s because that’s exactly what the Bible says. So in today’s program, and I’ll tell you what’s happening, radio is a funny thing. It’s live program. My guest today, and I’m praying that he joins me and I’m going to introduce him as he will hopefully join me as Mr. 10 Vanden Legum. He’s director of synagogue and church engagement with Messianic Jewish Alliance of America. He’s a former US Air Force individual for 26 years and served for a while in the George Bush White House Air Force Intelligence team. But I’ve asked Ted to join me, and again, you can pray with me that he does.

That’s why this introduction is a little longer than normal and extemporaneous. But we were going to talk about the number of different things. One, what we should learn from nine 11, what we should learn from the assassination of Charlie Kirk yesterday. And then we’re going to talk about, hopefully we’re going to talk about what’s happening in the Middle East of which so much is happening. Then we’re going to talk about a narrative, actually two narratives that are daily presented to us regarding things here in America. And then hopefully we can talk and conclude the program by tying together prophetical events as they are tying into what we see taking place with Israel. But in this last minute here, before we wind up this first segment, what should we learn from what’s in the past? Well, I can say this from a biblical perspective. All through the scripture, we are told to look back, to look back to what God has done.

Look back to how we have responded to what has happened. That’s what God told Israel to do, to be grateful for what God has done, to learn from those things that have happened with what purpose, to bring us to our knees in gratefulness to God for who he is and humbleness of heart to fear God and keep his commandments. That’s the only basis for greatness in America. That’s the only solution for expecting with confidence, God’s blessing. So that’s where we should be. And as we lift up and we do need to pray for our nation, our nation’s leader, our people, as there is how we respond to the event yesterday, we need to pray for Charlie Kirk’s wife and two little children. And that in and through all of this, that our attention should be above all focused on, am I ready to die? What is going to happen to me? Are we prepared? If we do that before the Lord, we will learn a great thing. Stay with us. We’ll be back in just a moment.

Well, if you’re just joining us today on the program, this is a big day obviously across America and we all know that. And if you were not able to catch the introduction just a few minutes ago, my theme today was is this perilous days are here. And I looked back at nine 11 with some thoughts because that was 24 years ago today. And then tie that into the event which we as a nation and all are walking through right now, and that is yesterday, the assassination of a young man, 31 years of age, Charlie Kirk. And there’s going to be a lot of responses to that which has happened. We put that out there because now we have two events spaced about a half a generation apart, both though impactful in the lives. Well, of all who were aware, many listening to me right now and our younger generation don’t even remember nine 11, but they will remember yesterday and so forth now. So we talked about that a little bit. And I don’t know, my special guest that I introduced last segment, praying and hoping that he would come, and I’m now wondering what has happened to him because he was prepared to be with me. But live radio does it where you just have to change on the spot. So Isaac, are you there with me now?

Isaac Crockett:

I can hear you. Can you hear me?

Sam Rohrer:

I can hear you Isaac. And I thank you for being so flexible to be able to join me so that that’s not just the listeners listening to me, but they can listen to both of us. This is a significant day. I was going to Isaac look back and for all of you listening, right, you recognize Pastor Isaac Crockett. He is on this program a lot. He is actually going to be leading the program tomorrow and I’ll be with him on tomorrow’s program as we engage a very significant subject of higher law in that program. But Isaac, I was going to talk with Ted today. He’s director of synagogue and church engagement with the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America has been with me before, but we’re going to talk about some things that are happening here, but I’m going to go to you right now and just bear down on this a little bit.

We will change the direction a bit, but I suggested that there were many people who were listening to us now who for instance, don’t remember what happened on nine 11 because they weren’t alive or they were very young, and how they are responding perhaps to the assassination of Charlie Kirk rather yesterday. Now you are not as old as I am, you are of the next generation. So I’m just going to ask you your thoughts. When you look back on nine 11 as an example, it’s appropriate to go there. What do you remember about that event? How America responded? Why you say what we perhaps as a nation did learn, perhaps what we didn’t learn and what we should have learned? Just go there. What are your thoughts on that?

Isaac Crockett:

Well, so for me personally, it was the traumatic part was that my dad was in Washington dc He was a pastor involved with doing like what we do here, trying to get ministers together, involved with working with civil leaders, trying to express our biblical worldview and things like that. So he was actually supposed to be meeting with George Bush at the White House. Things had gotten changed. He was still waiting at the White House and all of a sudden strange things started happening. He’s picking up on things must be going something wrong, is going on. He couldn’t use his cell phone so we couldn’t get ahold of him. So there was that fear that we went through at a time when many in New York City were going through something like that and many in Washington DC worried about their loved ones. But as far as learning, there was this great time of unity that we looked to have come out of nine 11 when we are attacked.

Think of Pearl Harbor. I mean still December 7th is the day that we remember and we are many generations removed from that of World War II and yet, but it brings us together as a nation, as a people, as Christians. And for a while I think of the country song, where were you when the world stopped turning that Alan Jackson wrote? And for a while it led people to prayer to churches, things like that. But there were also some, as our co-host, Dave Kissler likes to say some nefarious things going along at the same time that since nine 11 2001, we have seen a new world order. In many ways, we have seen religiously a syncretism that has crept in saying, we just need to have faith. We just need to accept each other. We had a president at the time, president Bush, who said that Islam is a religion of peace in the face of this, as I think hoping people wouldn’t retaliate against Muslims.

But there were a lot of things that started to happen in 2001 that have led us to where we are in 2025, where now we have seen so many people killed like what happened to Charlie Kirk, obviously a really big situation, but so many others we’ve had state representatives killed. We’ve had our president shot at, we’ve had children just recently at a Catholic school killed. And so it’s interesting, these 24, this 24 year period, Sam, how some of what started, we call it a new world order of 2001, how it has progressed to where we are now.

Sam Rohrer:

That’s interesting, Isaac, that you went there because in reality, and that’s one of the things I was going to talk to Ted about here today is that in reality, we have two narratives that seem to be continually presented before us, whether it’s in regard to the economy of today, whether it was regarding to what the Biden administration said in the past about what was happening or not happening. We have our president today who has come in wanting to be the president, I mean the president of peace and saying that had he been in office, there would be no war in Ukraine, there would be no war in the Middle East. And at the same time, we are closer to war all the way around than we’ve been. So there’s like two narratives, good economy, but the numbers say no. They wiped away 911,000 jobs that were reported. And I talked about that my guest Michael Snyder yesterday. So they’re like two narratives. It makes me almost think, Isaac, of the reality that there’s been two narratives through history. God’s narrative of what is creator, judge Redeemer. And then there’s the devil’s narrative of what is. And all along the way people have had to choose, well, which narrative am I going to believe? Which way? Any thoughts on that? Has that struck you? Have you thought about that before?

Isaac Crockett:

Yeah, yeah. And when we come to these points, it does cause us to go to one flank or the other, so to speak. There’s been so many interesting things in the last few hours written as a result of this from both sides left, right, the spiritually conservative, spiritually liberal, we realize there is a problem. Our friend Bob Lapin, pastor Bob Lapin and pastor down in Arkansas, known for decades of radio work with counseling families. He wrote a really great article, but he grew up in the sixties and seventies and he said, what we’re seeing now, we’ve had the Trump assassination and other attempts and other things, and now this with Charlie Kirk, what we’re seeing reminds him of what started with the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. Of course other family members of him all the way to JFK and his brother. And it’s a very, very worrisome time.

But as all of that is going, there was an article I just read and it said Tonight a lot of Americans feel like someone died on their behalf. And there’s some truth in that. And this was someone talking about Charlie Kirk, someone who wasn’t necessarily in step with everything Charlie did politically, but as a believer realizing this. And we make a choice in these things. And I believe that there are powers. We know that scripture, us Paul tells us that there are spiritual battles being held in high places and we know that Satan is trying to control things. We know in God’s providence, he is ultimately in control. And there is a push to be divisive and there’s a push towards these things. And that same push, it can be divisive, can also lead us to be a more outspoken witness and a testimony for Christ and to say, you know what?

There are things worth living for. There are things worth dying for. And very seldom do we get to a point like that. We’re so caught up in our lives and the rat race, so to speak, of life and sometimes a 911 moment, sometimes a Charlie Kirk assassination, it gives us pause, maybe not for super long time, but long enough to say, what are the things out there that are worth standing in the gap for truth, even if it requires a lot from me, even a sacrifice perhaps of my life. And that question was asked, I think it was just two weeks ago of Charlie Kirk and with all the political stuff that he’s involved with, he said if he were to die or be stopped from carrying on as he is, what would he want his legacy to be? And he said he wanted his legacy to be his faith in Jesus Christ as his Savior. And that type of belief will help us make a lot of good decisions in every one of the areas that come after that.

Sam Rohrer:

Ladies and gentlemen, think about that. As I said at the beginning, when these kind of events happen, it should cause us all to, and look at the brevity of life. We’re all going to pass off this scene. Every one of us, including the transhumanist around the world that we’ve talked about before, who are even the private discussion between Putin and the President Z of China a week ago, if you remember where they were talking about, well, we’ve maybe gotten to the point where we can live forever with all these transplanted organs. They want to live forever. That’s not going to happen. So are we prepared to meet the Lord? And if we walk away from all of this with that in mind, well certainly we will be better off. We’ll be back in just a moment.

Welcome back to Stand in the Gap. Today, our theme today, I had entitled This Perilous Days Are Here. And obviously that was because of the fact that today is 24th anniversary of nine 11. I talked about that in the first segment. Isaac, who is with me, he and I talked about his remembrance of that event and all from 24 years ago. And then we segued into an event for many of our younger people who do not remember nine 11, they do remember what took place yesterday in the assassination of Charlie Kirk and so much being said, and if you were with us from the beginning, we’ve been kind of moving this program around it differently from the way it was established at the beginning. I do not know because of, we’ll see what happens here. Guess Ted Van Legum, are you on here with me now? Are you there? I was just told by our board operator that he was there. Are you there?

JR McGee:

This is JR McGee

Sam Rohrer:

1. Well, you never know who’s going to show up on this program, and JR, tell you what, I am glad that you stepped in at a moment’s notice. You. I don’t know where you are, but I do know that what we’re talking about here and what I would like to get some input from you, my guest was going to be Ted today and we’d talk, but we’re looking at the matters of what’s happening in the Middle East. So Isaac, if you just hold on there, I’m going to go to JR right now and JR this is extemporaneous because you don’t have the agenda, but you do know what’s happening in the Middle East. I want to ask you, here’s a question because here’s how I would set this up. The eyes of the world, as we have talked about for so long, have been increasingly on Israel and the Middle East, particularly since the October 7th Hamas attack against Israel and the Israeli Knesset at that point then declaring war from that point until now, there’s been an aggressive operation taking place there in Middle East.

But Israel’s surprise attack inside the nation of Qatar or Qatar as some would say, Qatar, Q-A-A-T-R, just days ago in their capital where a number of Hamas leaders were meeting and supposedly what’s being said, they were there because Donald Trump has said, you’re going to make a deal on Gaza or else got him to go to that meeting. Theoretically there was a green light given by him. Israel went in and they knocked that place down. They blew it up. And a number of those Hamas leaders, some saying all, some saying some were killed. But no matter what happens, no matter how one views what’s happening in the Middle East, it’s a boiling pot now. So JR can I go to you here and just ask you what do you know? What can you say about that attack and Qatar? And here’s my question. Why did Israel choose to attack inside Qatar for which they’re not at war?

And when they likely knew that it would trigger a larger Arab nation response, and in fact, I’m going to put this in here as in factored into your response. In fact, just yesterday, Saudi Arabia’s crown Prince bin Salman was in a large gathering of people there and their parliamentary chambers, and he condemned Israel for what they did. He threatened serious Saudi Arabian and Arab revenge and he committed and he said, I’d listened to him repeatedly committed the solidarity with his sister state of Qatar as what he said, Qatar and the Saudis would support any and all Qatar response against Israel. And then he doubled down on his support for the Palestinians with a further condemnation of Israel. It seems to me that something is changing there. Anyways, put your views together on that whole episode as it’s unfolding.

JR McGee:

Well, Sam, it is in tremendous flux, but here’s what’s really going on. Israel has reached the point where they’ve lost faith in these negotiations. They’ve lost faith that the Hamas terrorists are going to give up these hostages because Hamas knows that the moment they give up all the hostages, they have nothing left to protect themselves. And the leaders of Hamas have been sequestered in both Iran and in Qatar, relatively safely. They’ve been more than willing to risk other people’s lives because they’ve been living in five star resorts. Israel finally reached the point that said, we’re not going to let you escape unharmed when you were the one, the very ones that set this up and killed our people because they’d lost faith in the fact that Hamas was going to negotiate in good faith. They implemented this attack. It was very interesting to me the response to that.

It was immediate, and we know that everyone wants to condemn Israel. And the interesting thing is the Saudi response, the Saudi Arabian Prince Muhammad bin Salman has got to speak in a way that speaks to his people. His people are very strongly Arab, but he himself understands that Israel and the United States is actually protecting Saudi Arabia from these very terrorists. That’s why they don’t want them in their own country. So in public, the Prince is saying one thing, but in private he’s still supporting Israel. It’s very dynamic, very complicated relationship going on there. The other thing that’s interesting is that Israel has finally reached the point that they’ve decided no matter what we do, we’re condemned. So why not do what we need to do to survive and let the condemnation come because it doesn’t matter what they do. They’re going to be condemned by the UN, they’re going to be condemned by Europe, they’re going to be condemned by most of the countries in the Middle East. So they finally reached the point to where the safety of their citizens is more important than the good press that they’re wanting to get from other countries. And they’ve decided we’re going to do what we have to do to protect our people. The interesting thing is both Jordan and Saudi Arabia have to do one thing in public for their people, but behind the scenes there’s a completely different message and there’s a completely different set of values, Sam,

Sam Rohrer:

And that’s an interesting point to note JR. And I think those are the kind of things that it’s difficult for, I would say the average observer to factor in to all this information that we’re hearing. I did hear the prime minister of Qatar this morning condemned Netanyahu and Israel. He obviously did not like the fact of what Israel did. He’s trying to put the pressure on Netanyahu and condemning try to demonize him as an individual, as the prime Minister. But he did commit as their country that they were going to do something in response to Israel. Now, Netanyahu’s response was, look, if you harbor terrorists that are committed on harming and destroying Israel, and you do not turn them over to us, you can expect us to come to you. Now, that’s a bold statement, but it does seem to me jr that things are building up. Tie into that your comment with this thought as well in the Middle East, other things are happening. For instance, just some time ago there were undersea cables that were cut. There are reports that I ran sending chemical weapons to the Yemen’s Houthis who are still involved in attacking Israel. What are your broader thoughts to what is happening there? In addition to what may come from Qatar, you’ve got an involvement with Turkey that’s now threatening to come in, put that whole thing together, what you see developing.

JR McGee:

It’s a very dynamic situation. In fact, just this morning, the Houthis launched two ICBMs at Israel, and ironically, both ICBMs broke up and crashed over Saudi Arabia. Netanyahu is trying to hold together an alliance with a bunch of different people with different goals and objectives in Israel, and you’ve got all these countries that are trying also to protect the Palestinians on one hand, but they don’t want the Palestinians in their own country is kind of a question of, we want you to take care of them, but we don’t want to take care of them. As a result, you get a bunch of mixed messages and a lot of things that don’t make sense on the surface and certainly don’t make sense from the news media because the news media is doing an exceptionally poor job at explaining all this. They’re going for sensationalism rather than insight and understanding.

The Middle East is rapidly moving to a point to where the alliance between Russia, Iran, Turkey, Syria, and Yemen and Somalia is growing just like the Bible said it was going to. It’s taking shape before our very eyes. On the other hand, you’ve got people in the Middle East that realize just how dangerous the Palestinians and the Iranians are. And behind the scenes they’re trying to figure out how do they protect their own countries from these people at the same time appearing to be tough to Israel. They’re ironically looking to Israel to protect them, specifically Jordan and Saudi Arabia and to a degree Egypt. They view Israel as a protector as opposed to a quintessential threat as they used to. And what it does is it makes this situation incredibly difficult to understand unless you look at all the players and all of the things that are going on and all of the national interests. Only then can you see why people are doing and saying some of the things that they’re doing because

Sam Rohrer:

Alright, JR,  just hold that. Just hold that because you’ve referred to Biblical prophecy and ladies and gentlemen, that’s where I want to end because only until we view what is taking place through the lens of scripture and biblical prophecies, can you make any sense out of what’s happened? We’ll be back in just a moment. Our theme today on this program has been perilous days are here. So if you’ve been with us from the beginning of the program, you know that this has been a little bit of a different program than the way we’ve done.

And Dr. Isaac Crockett, who was able to step in with me from his busy schedule and join me in segment two, had to leave to go back to do other things that he was doing. He and I will be together tomorrow on this program looking at matters of higher law with a special guest and JR McGee, who is well, we’re together Jr. At least once a month on this program. You are a student of biblical prophecy. You are a trainer of military, the finest. You lead an organization that gives instruction to business and to others in strategic planning and your background and his intelligence and in the military and all of that. As our guests or listeners know, I’m so thankful that you were able to step into very, very, very last minute and doing all of this without preparation, but the things that we’re talking about on this program, events of the day, and now as we conclude by tying together here to focus on the Middle East and a focus on prophecy, you can speak right out of your heart as we do so often here on these issues.

So let me just set this up and I’m going to now ask you a question. But when it comes to Israel and the Middle East, as we’ve talked about so often, nothing that happens there, particularly now that God has brought Israel back into the land, rebirthed to the nation in 1948. And as we say, that began the clock of the end days when Israel’s back because now you know God is beginning to work and do exactly what he said he would do. So now you’ve got the nation back in the land. Jews are being regathered from around the world. Israel is beginning to be the focal point actually has been of all the world. And we ultimately know that Jerusalem we’re told is going to be a stumbling stone. The nations of the world are just simply not going to know what to do with this little country, yet God is going to do something with them.

And I think that’s important. So as scripture makes it clear, as we get closer to the end of this church age now, the clock began with Israel being back in the lamb. There’s a seven year tribulation, also known as the time of Jacob’s trouble. We’ve talked about much that’s next on the horizon, but we cannot actually talk about any of these things without talking about and looking at it through the lens of scripture. So here is how I’m going to posit this question to you. The alignment of nations around Israel currently underway that we see it and has been happening is increasingly now involving, for instance, the nation of Turkey. I think the last time you and I were together, we talked, Russia has come down on the side of the enemies of Israel, Iran obviously is there. China’s obviously inside Iran doing its thing. Yemen, you mentioned that in the last segment is there, but what events, if you took it into the big picture, it looked the Middle East, what events are you watching that are most significant to you as a Christian, a military intel guy, that kind of thing is we’re watching as a student of prophecy. How do you put these out here? What are you watching that’s most notable to you,

JR McGee:

Sam? Right now, it’s impossible to not look at all this and not be aware of the two different things that most people talk about with this. And that is the battle of Armageddon. Everyone thinks that everything’s lining up for the battle of Armageddon. And then Ezekiel’s war, which is in Ezekiel chapter 38 and 39. Now, if you look at the players that are listed in Ezekiel 38 and 39, they’re different players than the players are listed in the book of Revelation. And ironically, Ezekiel knew way before Islam was ever conceived or developed that there would be a Sunni Islam and a Shia Islam, with the exception of Russia. All the players in the book of Ezekiel or Shia, Islam nations, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Sadan, Yemen, all these are listed by name in Ezekiel. And this is exactly the alliance that has been forming and has been moving aggressively against Israel right now.

And as you look at all this in Ezekiel’s chapter 38 and 39, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt are conspicuously absent. But those kingdoms and those kings of those three countries have got to be aware of their population, which is very different and have very different objectives and desires than the kingdoms themselves do. So they’ve got to say one thing in public and support something else in private. But this schism between the Shia Islam nations and the Sunni Islam nations is becoming ever more divided. And it’s being the focus right now on Israel. I really liked what you said about quoting the scripture where Jerusalem becomes a stumbling stone to the nations. That’s exactly what we’re seeing. We’re seeing that no one will come to their aid. That’s exactly what we’re seeing. Even America is they say that the administration is becoming concerned or worried about Netanyahu.

All of these things are lining up precisely the way the Bible says that they’re going to align. The only thing that’s in question is the timeframe. And I don’t think any of us can be dogmatic about when these things occur, but what we can be absolutely certain is they’re going to happen exactly the way the Bible lays out. And we’re seeing it black and white on the news media every day. It could not be clearer where this is going and how this is going to play out. And you and I have been talking for several years about Turkey moving out of the NATO sphere of influence and into the Russian sphere of influence. And I know a lot of my professional friends and contacts actually laughed at me for saying that several years ago. Well, today, Turkey is very clearly in that alliance that axes against Israel and trying to court a relationship with Russia and Iran and Iran was their deadly enemy up till about two years ago. So the one thing that we can be certain of, Sam, no one’s got the clock, no one’s got the timeframe, but all of us have the outline and the play diagram that says, this is who’s going to act. This is who’s going to be involved, and this is the group that’s going to be reacting against Israel. And for me, this points extremely clearly to the fact that the Bible was accurate 3000 years ago. It was accurate a thousand years ago. It’s accurate today, and that tells me, without a doubt, it will be accurate tomorrow.

So if you want to know exactly how this is going to work, read your Bible.

Sam Rohrer:

Amen. Amen. We’ve got one minute left. JR. We started this program talking about reflecting back on nine 11. We talked about the assassination yesterday of Charlie Kirk. Big events, we talked about the Middle East. We didn’t even go to Russia and Ukraine and what’s happening in nature. We didn’t have time to go to all of that. But when we see all of these things coming together in about 30 seconds or so, what does it cause? How does it direct your thinking and your focus as a believer?

JR McGee:

It reinforces my belief, Sam, and frankly, it doesn’t excite me for war, but it excites me as a student of the Bible so that I can see these things that are happening. Russia has no interest in forming peace with the Ukraine. They just invaded Poland’s airspace with several hundred drones. Poland shot several of them down, NATO’s getting involved with this. Everything that the Bible has talked about is coming true. Even when people said it was impossible, nothing’s impossible where God says it’s going to happen. This excites me. This confirms my belief, it confirms my convictions, and it tells me that I need to be out reaching my friends and family because time is growing short.

Sam Rohrer:

Amen. Amen. JR McGee, thank you so much for jumping in at the last minute and being a part of the program. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being a part of it today. And I hope that all of these things we’ve talked about, just as JR said, is present in your life, that you are more excited by the day of seeing God’s plan unfold, communicate the gospel, stand in the gap for truth like it never before.