Was Muhammad a Communist? Understanding Islam’s Political Threat

Was Muhammad a Communist? Understanding Islam’s Political Threat

Host: Dr. Isaac Crockett

Guest: Paul Brown

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 8/21/26. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Isaac Crockett:

Well, welcome to this Friday edition of Stand in the Gap. I’m so glad that you’re listening. And whether you’re tuning in, maybe in your car via radio or listening to us streaming through our app or through another app or listening archived later on, online on some sort of podcast app, whichever way you’re listening to this at a computer, on a phone, at a radio, in your vehicle, welcome to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett. And on this Friday edition, we want to tackle some real issues that are all over the news right now, not just cultural, but biblical worldview. And my guest, return guest today, some of you will be familiar with him, especially if you listen a lot, you’ll recognize him, but he’s a Marine veteran. He spent decades working in military intelligence, linguistics, counter-terrorism, and all kinds of other stuff. And now he’s the founder of Googled some things about it and he’s founder of a patriotic traditional conservative biblical values watch company is what it’s called.

You don’t think of that with watches, but he’s the founder of Wasson Watch Company. And if you’ve not heard some of our programs talking about that, you can look that up. But my guest is Paul Brown again of Wasson Watch. Paul, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule and being on the program with us today.

Paul Brown:

Hey, Isaac, it’s my pleasure. Thanks for having me again.

Isaac Crockett:

Well, Paul, I want to look at today a growing thing that sometimes we call this a religion, but it’s really a lot more than that. And for years, we’ve had different people who have been coming out of this supposed religion that have been telling us and trying to blow the whistle and say, this is more than a religion. This is a political movement. This is a military movement. And you can look at the history of it, and that is Islam. And I want to look at understanding Islam’s political threat to us in the United States of America. And I also want to kind of look at Muhammad and talk about kind of a funny question because he was, when we look at the life of Muhammad, we’re going way back in history. And the question would be, was Muhammad a communist? Now, there’s a lot of things that you and I have talked about, and we’ve talked about on this program many times, many different guests, but there’s some really interesting things where we see these progressives that they oftentimes call themselves woke and you just look at them and they look kind of different.

And they are aligning themselves with communists and with Muslims. And I’m thinking back to when I did some studying in Central America and I came across some old school communists that were followers of Che Guevara and I think of Fidel Castro and some of these guys. In my mind, there’s no way they would want to be associated with some of these woke, LGBTQ loving, progressive liberals it seems, nor would they want to be aligned with the Muslims of today and vice versa, thinking of times over in the Middle East over there, the woke or the communist, because the communist being atheistic. Just these three groups seem like a very strange conglomerate. And yet somehow they get along here in the United States attacking so much of what we have going on. So I want to go to a post that you did on X, that’s the Elon Musk owned social media site, used to be called Twitter.

And it used to be on Twitter that our stuff didn’t get much attention. Now it’s more conservative leaning, it seems, and algorithms like a lot of my posts or Stand in the Gap posts and your posts at WassonWatch. And I would encourage anybody listening on your social media, look up Wasson, W-A-S-S-O-N, Watch Company. And you’ll find a lot of really, really awesome stuff that Paul is putting out there on social media. But on there you had posts on X that caught my attention. It was something like Muhammad was a communist basically. And again, obviously he lived a few centuries before Carl Marx and the modern movement we call communism. But I’m just curious, what did you mean by that? And maybe you could share with us some of the historical factors that you were looking at that led you to make a comparison to modern day communism.

Paul Brown:

Yeah, absolutely. It is kind of a weird thing when you first hear that Muhammad was a communist. And as you said, centuries before Karl Marx or the advent of the Soviet Union, Muhammad was born in what is modern day Saudi Arabia, the Arabian Peninsula, around 570AD as far as we know. And where that statement came from where I said he is a communist is what’s really interesting is in the genesis of Muhammad, sort of his origin story, if you will. He lived in a city called Mecca and he ended up fleeing that city as he began getting followers. And the leaders in Mecca realized that there was some danger to the ideas that he was beginning to spread. And they went to this city called Medina and they were running out of food, water, resources and so on. And so what Muhammad did was he told his followers to rob.

So he essentially took what they had, he appropriated it for himself and for his followers because they believed they deserved it. And that’s interesting because it’s the exact same thing as what communism is. Communism is this idea that you have something I want. I’m going to take it. Fundamentally, that’s what it is. And another area where they overlap is in a concept called friend enemy distinction, which you often hear expressed as no enemies to the right or no enemies to the left. But another way of putting it is the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And so you’ll see a lot of groups like Muslims, like communists, whatever, make compromises in the kind of people that they deal with as long as those people are mutual enemies to what they consider their greater enemy. And that’s a lot of what we’re seeing today.

Isaac Crockett:

So I’d love for you to talk about that a little bit more. We only have a couple minutes before our first break, but these progressive LGBTQ groups, these communist Muslims, they seem to be going such different directions, but they’re temporarily joining together because of a common enemy. Could you maybe talk about what that enemy is or just kind of the deeper ideological connections that bring them together for the time being?

Paul Brown:

I mean, certainly these are satanic movements. And so on one level and on a spiritual level, the enemy is God, right? And it’s the people of God. But then on as well like a physical level, it’s the United States of America. The USA is a superpower, has been an undisputed superpower since World War II. And we stand in the way of many of the dark and evil ideologies in the world that have sought to control and dominate the world. You look at the ideologies espoused by Japan and Germany in World War II. You look at the Soviet Union and the global spread of communism. You look at Islam. All these very destructive ideologies the USA constantly stands in the way of. And what I think our adversaries collectively, and I’m talking about Russia, I’m talking about communist China, I’m talking about various Islamic groups and Islam as a whole, that what they’ve looked at is if we can just get this pesky United States out of the way to some extent or some degree, we can continue our designs of power accumulation.

And we may ultimately be in conflict with one another, Russia and China, China and the Muslims, Russia and the Muslims, whatever, all these different groups. But there’s no point in us fighting each other as long as the US is there because the US is that supreme power that they wish to destroy.

Isaac Crockett:

Well, those are some really interesting ideas. I know this is a bit of a provocative question that we started with. Was Muhammad a communist? But he was taking what wasn’t his and reappropriating it. It sounds really familiar, but we want to go beyond that. We want to go beyond just these slogans and things. And Paul, you’re going in the direction that we need to go in to talk about this. So when we come back from this brief time out to hear from our partners, we want to come back and talk with Paul about what has happened historically with Islam. I think you’re going to really enjoy how Paul puts all of this together. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back on stand in the gap today.

All right. Well, welcome back to our program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett and I’m talking with our friend Paul Brown. He is the founder of Wasson Watch. And the watches are much of his life today, making watches and selling them on wassonwatch.com and posting things on X and Facebook and different things about watches. He also is very involved with spiritual warfare, looking at things. And he’s taking his over 20 years of experience looking for threats for the United States, working in the Marines and into the military as a strategically anti-terrorist linguistics info guy looking for the next threat or what the real threats are. And now Paul is doing that with us today, looking at the threat of Islam. And so Paul, you’ve been talking us through these things. And even on your website with your watches, it says that we are Christian, patriotic, American watch company.

We speak the truth boldly, come what may. We proudly make quality watches that balance aesthetics and utility. And you give the verses Micah six: eight, Genesis 1:28 and 2nd Chronicles 7:14. And throughout your website, you tie in these biblical things that help us with the biblical worldview. But on that, you speak the truth boldly. And that’s how you and I came to know each other was things that you were doing through your watch company where you’re speaking the truth boldly. And this is one of these areas talking about Islam that is difficult for some people to talk about because they’re afraid of the pushback, because they’re afraid of offending people. Because we’ve been told even by government officials that, oh, Islam is a religion of peace. Well, before we get into the modern pieces of this supposed religion of peace that it’s not really, I want to go back to what you were talking about.

We asked the question, was Muhammad a communist? And essentially in the fact that he was taking what wasn’t his from Christians and Jewish people or other Arab people and then giving it to his followers. And that way, yeah, he was following the same ideology really then of communism. But you explained that Muhammad, he went from Mecca to Medina. And I’m curious, what changed there? How did his ideas that we call Islam, how did they develop then from what might have been more of a religious movement into what is now very much in a practical way, a political, a governmental, or really a military power?

Paul Brown:

Yeah. I mean, that’s a great question. I mentioned earlier, Muhammad, as far as we know, was born around 570 AD in the region of Mecca and the Arabian Peninsula. And around 610 AD, when he’s 40 years old, he reports that he starts getting these revelations, right? These angels appearing to him supposedly and giving this information. And he starts preaching about it on the streets of Mecca in 613 AD. And in 622, nine years later, he’s developed a following and the leaders in Mecca know who he is and they want him out. And so he leaves, he takes his followers with him to Medina. And this event is known as the Hijrah.This is their flight from Mecca to Medina. And what’s interesting to me is that the Islamic calendar begins from the Hidrah. It doesn’t begin at the birth of Muhammad or at his death. It doesn’t begin when he starts supposedly receiving revelations or when he starts preaching about those revelations.

It begins when Muhammad flees from Mecca to Medina. And the reason why that is, is because that is the beginning of the first sovereign Islamic state. And so one of the things that’s interesting is a lot of Christians have to sort of wrestle with the idea of religion and politics. They’re like these two different things. And we have to figure out how does religion interact with politics? How does Christianity interact with politics? Islam is not that way. Islam is an all encompassing system. It is a system of religion, but it’s also a system of governance. It is a system of warfare. And probably the most fundamental element of what Islam is, is that it is a system of governance and warfare, a system of power, of oppression, of expansion, and ultimately of tyranny. And so yeah, I think it’s fundamental that people know this, that this is in the DNA of what Islam is.

And when you start to understand that and then see the history of Islam, as well as where Islam is today, it starts to become a lot less surprising. Islam did not spread through evangelism, through proselytization, where we just go out there and we share these ideas and people like them. It did not spread across the Arabian peninsula and the Middle East, North Africa and so on. It spread through conquest. It spread through victory, through military victory, which was spurred on by the dual incentives of temporal gain and potential eternal gain in terms of what was promised. Because just as Muhammad had his followers raid camel caravans that were taking goods to Mecca, their previous hometown, they were allowed to keep what they’ve got. They were able to essentially loot and keep that, but they were told very early on, this is a very early component of what Islam was, was that if you die in battle fighting for Allah, which robbing camel trains was equated as fighting for Allah.

If you die, then you go to paradise where you get 72 virgins who cater to your every need, especially sexual needs, which is what was very heavily emphasized in Islamic theology. And so it was win-win. You either win because you get this loot, which you get to enjoy, including women because they were taking women’s slaves very, very, very often at that time, as well as men as slaves. Or you die and you get the same thing, but a better version of it in heaven. And so that pushed people to fight with fervor. That pushed the Islamic warriors to ride headlong and with fierceness and fearlessness into battle. And so they punched well above their weight. They fought with a fervor that was previously unseen in the region.

Isaac Crockett:

And in those eras, those cities that they spread out to, even going beyond Arabia, they go into Northern Africa, places that had. At that point, there were already many of those cities were being controlled by Christianity or even Jewish cities. And what happened to the Christians and the Jewish people that were living under the new rule as Muhammad’s followers took over? What went on then?

Paul Brown:

Yeah. Great question. And I want to emphasize something you just said. A lot of these places were already Christian or Jewish. In fact, we think of the Middle East today as just this Muslim region. North Africa, Egypt, the Levant, Syria, Lebanon, these were all Christian nations. They had become predominantly Christian. And what happened was the Christians were pushed out or they were killed or they were essentially oppressed. A lot of people don’t know this, but Medina itself had a large Jewish population when Muhammad and his followers arrived there. Within less than a hundred years, there were no more Jews there. They were expelled or they were killed. They were either pushed out or they were persecuted so much that they left on their own. And this became the story across the region. What would happen is that many, many Christians, and of course Jews in these different areas would be killed, and then many more would be pressured to convert.

And so if you think even in, we see this today, they’re very committed Christians and there are nominal Christians who are essentially cultural Christians. Someone who genuinely has the light of Christ in them, I wouldn’t expect to convert necessarily or to even pretend that they converted in order to save their own lives. But there are many people out there who maybe identify as Christians that obviously do not have salvation in Christ. They haven’t truly put their faith in Jesus. And why would a person like that not convert when their life is threatened, when their family is threatened, when their livelihood is threatened, and they’re offered incentive to convert? So between conquests, killing, forced conversions and so on, you rapidly see a shift from these non-Islamic cultures to these Islamic cultures. And you see that today. Wherever Muslims take power, they persecute the minority populations, the non-Islamic populations, and put pressure on them to convert as well.

Isaac Crockett:

One minute till our next break. So what can you tell us in that one minute as American Christians, what do we see about that history? What do we look at when we see this conquest and submission that they were forcing in that area historically?

Paul Brown:

Yeah. I mean, I think that it’s important to know the history so that what happens today is less surprising. There’s that old saying that those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it. We don’t have to guess what Islam is or what adherence to Islam believe. We know both based on what has been written in their holy texts, but then based on how they’ve interpreted those texts for 1,400 years. The only thing that has maybe decreased the Islamic violence the last couple hundred years has been the relative lack of strength of the Islamic world compared to the West. I mean, the West just exploded in terms of wealth, power, infrastructure, military might in the 15, 16, 1700s and onward to the point where the Islamic world could no longer compete. I mean, not even close. And so they had to take a more submissive stance.

But as they’re growing in power, and especially as they’re growing in power in the West, we’re seeing a much more prejudicial approach. And you see it, for example, like the rape gangs in the UK. It was a very, very sad kind of a tragedy that has happened there. And there’s a much larger percentage of population that is Islamic in UK, say, than the US, but we’re trending in that direction.

Isaac Crockett:

There’s so much information here. And you’re just going back into history, Paul. We’re going to take another quick time out to hear from some of our partners. And we’re going to come back and keep talking with Paul Brown of Watson Watch, founder of Wass and Watch about this. We’re going to go from history to modern day. And look at what’s going on. I just saw videos of Kevin Rideout, the SIM missionary who was just released after nine months of being captured by the Islamic state over in Niger. And it’s a very real thing in many countries, but what about our own country? What about the West? What about the United Kingdom? What about the United States of America? We want to get into that with my guest, Paul Brown, when we come back in this next segment and look at the United States today and Islam.

We’ll be right back on Stand in the Gap Today.

Well, welcome back to the program. I’m Pastor Isaac Crockett. And our guest today is somebody that many of you who are recent listeners or longtime listeners will recognize. And that is our friend Paul Brown with decades of experience in military intelligence looking for threats to our nation. And Paul, I want to thank you so much for your service and the decades you spent going through that, going through linguistics and all sorts of difficult things, living in far away places in the military. But you were looking out for terrorists and you were part of the counter-terrorism group. And it gives you a good perspective on identifying threats. And what you’re doing for us today is you are identifying a really big threat. And I want to say just a couple things before we get back into questioning Paul, because he has so much good information for us.

But I would encourage you to go to our app, Stand in the Gap app. If you don’t already use it, it’s a really easy to use app, free resources of all of our archives. And look at some of our old programs on Islam. I would encourage you to look at our videos from Stand in the Gap TV. Go back to the first season. It was early on, I think it was in 2018. We did several programs about the Islamic threat with Mark Christian who grew up in Islam. He himself grew up in a family that helped start the Muslim Brotherhood. And he was high up in all of this. He was leading people to Mecca and Medina, and he was a religious leader over there. And then he walked away from it, ended up becoming a Christian and leaving all of that. And he warned about what was going on in America and what the plan was to unfold over the next decade.

And here we are about eight years later. And it is kind of scary how much he called it. And so Paul, what you’re talking about today, it’s not something that just all of a sudden came out of nowhere. It’s something that we’ve been trying to give a clarion cry about this for years and it continues to go forward. And so that’s why I’m so thankful for you pointing out the history. You’re pointing out some parts of history that I didn’t think about or didn’t even know to put together to connect it for us in modern day America. So when we look at modern day now, let’s go right now in front of our eyes. You live in Texas and you think, oh, Texas, that’s a Bible belt. Whether you’re in Texas or whether you’re in Dearborn, Michigan or anywhere really in the United States, we’re seeing a growth of Islamic influence.

We’re seeing political Islam. We are seeing a religious Islam. We’re seeing debates over whole parts of cities or whole cities that are wanting Sharia law to govern them. And so as you’re used to identifying threats to our nation, Paul, what concerns you most as far as national security part about this, the ideological perspective of Islam?

Paul Brown:

Yeah. Islam is, again, I think Americans just have to wrap their minds around this because this used to be common knowledge in the West. For centuries, it was common knowledge what Islam was, that it was a great evil. It was a great threat to the West and specifically to Christendom and to the nations within the West and within Christendom and to the people in those regions as well. And they knew it was a threat because they were fighting it on the front lines. I mean, one of the defining elements of what we call the middle ages, the dark ages, et cetera, was the struggle of Christendom against Islam. You had Islam essentially encroaching from the South, from the Southwest, from the Southeast, from the West, from the East, all around, coming up through Spain, coming up through the Balkans, coming up into Russia and essentially coming from an Eastern European route.

And so they knew this. In their bones, they knew it. In their DNA, they knew it. And after hundreds of years of Western economic, infrastructural and military superiority, we’ve seen a comparatively less dangerous, less threatening Islam. An Islam has had to take a more defensive posture for a long time. And we’ve forgotten what we knew. And so in America, as we’ve forgotten that, we have allowed Islam in mass in a way that treats it like it’s just another religion. Part of our constitutional Democratic Republic ideal is freedom. It’s freedom of religion and freedom of speech and these things. These are good things. But what the Constitution is not is a suicide pact. We don’t have to follow specific rules to the letter off a cliff to our death. And unfortunately, if we treat Islam the way that we would treat other religions, that’s where it’s going to lead us.

Because Islam, as I’ve sort of mentioned previously, alluded to previously, is a system of power, of governance, of conquest, of oppression, and it operates in a zero sum game manner. It does not share power. Everything is friend enemy distinction, meaning anything that helps me to gain power is on my side and I will use it until the very moment where I no longer need it, and then it becomes my enemy as well. So they work well with the left right now, but that will change as soon as they attain power. As Islamic populations are growing in specific regions in the US, this is not happening organically. It is not happening spontaneously. It is strategic. In Texas, we have an estimated 500,000 Muslims and over 300 mosques. And they’re congregating in specific areas where they have a large enough group of people to vote certain ways and impact their localities.

I saw some statistics recently that around 95% of Muslims vote. Whereas on average, the average American, 40% vote. So you think about a community that maybe has 30% Muslims in it, or 20% or 10%. That block is twice as effective as similar blocks of other elements. And they can ally with, say, leftists in their area who want a DEI candidate. And you see someone who’s a Muslim running for office and who’s allying themselves with the Democrats. And they’re going to win. They’re going to win those elections. And as they gain power in localities and eventually in states and across the nation, they’re going to leverage that power to implement Sharia law. Because for Muslims, there is no Islam without Sharia law. It’s not two separate things. It’s not like you have Islam and Sharia law. Islam is Sharia law. And they won’t rest until it’s implemented across our nation.

And so I think if I had to emphasize a key component for the average American to understand, it’s that you cannot treat Islam like other religions. And as a Christian, I’m not saying that other false religions are okay or that you’re going to somehow get to heaven through other false religions outside of Islam. No, I’m not saying that. I’m just saying that it’s evil by degrees. All right. All sin is evil. If I steal a candy bar, that’s an evil sin against God and the wages of sin, including that sin, are death. But I can see that murder is a worse sin than stealing a candy bar. God has created more significant consequences on earth for that. We can see the damage of that being greater. In the same way, I can see that while all false religions are false religions, that Islam is much, much more destructive and it cannot be allowed to continue in its current way.

We need laws that would say at the beginning, at the very least, prevent the construction of new mosques anywhere and done at the local level, at the state level, the national level, whatever we can accomplish.

Isaac Crockett:

It’s interesting. My mind is going a lot of different directions as you’re talking, as you’re explaining these things. But this ideological movement, this movement of power, more than just religious, this idea of seeking world domination and control. Again, it’s so much like what we started out talking about, communism. And a lot of people, they hear communism and they say, “Oh no, I don’t want that.” But then they’re voting for things that are essentially the same as communists and they don’t even realize what it means. And so the same thing here is they might say, “Oh, well, Islam, I knew a Muslim person and that person was really nice, good store keeper or a good neighbor or something.” So again, help us as we wrap up this part of this second to last segment here, help us understand what principles should shape the way we think as Americans, as Christians, looking at Islam as the ideological movement, rather than just judging it by, “Oh, well, this candidate is Muslim or this person I know is a Muslim.” Help us again to really understand the principles of the movement.

Paul Brown:

I’m really glad you brought that up because I think that’s really hard. That’s a really important topic. Americans are generally speaking reasonable people. We’re generally speaking kind of easy to get along with. And if you’re easy to get along with, then we like that. And it’s like, “Hey, how do I rectify this? How do I think about the fact that over here you’re saying it’s this system of power and domination or whatever else, but I met this Muslim guy and he was okay?” Well, I think one of the things that you have to recognize is even though that Islam and its DNA in its blueprints is all of these things, that not every Muslim is a perfect Muslim. We have a lot of nominal Christians, you’ve got nominal Buddhists, nominal Hindus, nominal Jews, everything else. You’ve got nominal Muslims. And the average Muslim, I don’t think necessarily knows or understands the extent to which Islam is a system of power and domination, but they will ultimately go through with what the rest of their Islamic community does.

So to be a Muslim, especially when you’re within the group of Muslims that came to America on In the earlier end, think two, three, four, five decades ago, and you’re not surrounded by other Muslims and you’re not in Islamic communities, you’re able to live a very nominally Muslim life. You don’t even go to mosque, you don’t even have other Muslims who are calling you out if you’re not being Islamic enough. But what happens in any community where you see an increase in the number of Muslims is those Muslims who might have been more nominal before, who might have been content, being essentially secular Americans with a little bit of an Islamic flavor, they have to make a really tough decision. They have to decide whether to break ranks with Islam entirely, basically deconvert, which by the way, is punishable by death under Islam, or they’re going to have to conform with

Isaac Crockett:

The

Paul Brown:

Standards and norms of Muslims in their area. And that’s what most Muslims end up doing, is conforming to the greater Islam.

Isaac Crockett:

Well, this is very helpful looking at this threat. As Christians, we can’t stop there. We’re going to wrap this up in our next and final segment. And we’re going to look, we don’t have fear or hatred. We trust the Lord. How do we trust the Lord in these times? How do we point people to Christ? We’re going to talk about that when we wrap things up on Stand in the Gap today. All right. Well, we must be having fun because time is really flying today. And I’m talking with watchmaker, Wasson Watch Company founder, Paul Brown, who has decades of military experience pointing out the threat using counterintelligence and all of his intelligence and linguistics training to protect our country. And right now he’s calling out a threat against the church and against the government, against the Constitution, against all those things that we stand for as patriotic Christians in America.

And that threat is the ideologies of Islam, which is more than just a religion and certainly not a “religion of peace.” Well, welcome back to this final segment. As I said, time is really going fast. It’s really flying. Paul, we’ve covered a lot of stuff today. Thank you so much for your insight, for your studies on this, and for calling this out publicly as you do on a regular basis. But after everything that we’ve discussed, I guess Paul, here we are to wrap it up. What would you tell us about our response as Christians? We shouldn’t be ignorant. That’s one thing that you’re helping us today. Anybody who’s listened to this program today is walking away with more knowledge, with more understanding, with more context of how we got where we are and what to expect with Islam. But also, we shouldn’t be fearful. We sometimes can just kind of throw our hands up and run around like a chicken with its head cut off and say, “Oh no, the sky is falling.” Or we can become hateful and bitter.

And that’s not an option for us as Christians either. So how do we use biblical truth, stand firm, stand in the gap for truth, recognize this threat, but at the same time, not be fearful about it, nor be hateful towards individual Muslims who we may have a chance to point them to Jesus Christ. What are some of the things that we ought to do?

Paul Brown:

Yeah. One of my favorite passages is one Corinthians 16:13 and 14 says, “Be watchful. Stand firm in the faith. Act like men. Be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.” That’s such a, I think, just holistically important passage that kind of talks about our footing, our attitude, the way we should carry ourselves, and also the spirit behind it. I want to talk more about what needs to be done, but I also want to throw in this caveat that when we’re talking about threats, when we’re talking about evil, evil ideologies, people carrying out those evil ideologies and their acts behind them, we can become so wrapped up in the evil of that and the negativity of that, that we do forget the love component. We are not wrestling with flesh and blood, but with principalities, with demons, with Satan, with spiritual matters.

And so we don’t hate Muslims. We don’t hate leftists. We don’t hate communists. We don’t hate any of these people. We do hate the ideologies, the evil ideologies they bring. But ultimately, we love our neighbors as ourselves. We love those people. We pray for them. We pray that they will hear the gospel and believe in Jesus and that they will be saved like us. Like us, they’re not deserving of that grace. We weren’t deserving of that grace. And so we do that in gratitude as well for what we have, not in sort of an arrogant pompousness like I’m better than you because I have the gospel. No, I’m a fellow beggar telling you where to get bread. But at the same time, not being kind of over-spiritualizing things and forgetting that God did make a physical world and that we love our neighbors not just exclusively in a spiritual sense, but also in a physical sense.

James said, truly religion is caring for widows and orphans in their affliction. And Islam, we could say same thing about many other evil ideologies, but Islam is an ideology that will bring terror and destruction and death to the weak, to widows and orphans and others. And so we have a responsibility not just to care for them in their affliction, but also to prevent the kind of affliction that will bring sort of unimaginable horror to them, if you can sort of wrap your mind around that. And that’s what I want. There’s so many things in Christianity that it’s not either or, it’s both and. You shouldn’t just have good orthodoxy, which is the right belief, or just good orthopraxy, which is the right actions. You need to have good orthodoxy and good orthopraxy. We don’t just love our neighbors by praying for them and hoping that they believe in Jesus.

We love our neighbors’ intangible acts. And I’m really inspired. The great thing about this topic is we have 1400 years of history to look at. And I’m inspired by brave Christian men like Charles Martel, he was called Charles the Hammer, who stopped the Islamic advance in 732 as the Muslims had conquered basically all of Spain at that point and they were going to try to advance into France. And frankly, if they had won there, they may have pushed all the way to Constantinople and we’d be looking at an entire Europe effectively conquered by Islam. But he was a man of faith. He was a man of character. He knew what he stood for and he stood up and he fought with his men. And they fought valiantly and they were just absolutely unwavering in their fighting spirit and how they countered those enemies and they won.

And it was a real physical battle. So we need to be ready to do what needs to be done to defeat Islam. And there’s a lot of ways like talking about what is the appropriate approach to doing that would probably be a whole other conversation, but we need to be ready for that in a spiritual sense. And we need to be ready for that in our education, what we understand about Islam, how Islam has fought historically, and how it was fought against historically. And then we need to be ready in terms of our capabilities physically, legally. Do you understand the legal system? Are you in regular contact with your legislators or your city council members or so on and so forth? There are things that we can and should do. And it is not loving to our neighbors to sit back and do nothing about this growing threat, about this growing system of domination and oppression that is in our midst today.

Isaac Crockett:

That is so well said, Paul. Very well said. Something I remember from even a number of years ago dealing with Mark Christian, who again came out of Islam. He had been a leader in Islam, many influential people in Egypt. And I remember him talking and we had some conferences with him at our church and with pastors in Pennsylvania. And he was saying that one of the things is push back and make it known that you’re a Christian. Don’t hide your lamp under a bushel. Have Christian verses and symbolism where you are and where you live. And I have seen this even in the Middle East, I’ve seen Christians do this. And Paul, this is something you as a business owner, you have really embodied that. You’ve all over your website, all over your social media, it’s biblical worldview, it’s Bible verses on your watches. You’ll find flags and Bible verses and things like that.

So we’re almost out of time here, but could you just maybe tell us a little bit about your company? I know you’ve talked about it on air before, but a little bit about your company and the way you incorporate your biblical worldview, even into your watch company.

Paul Brown:

Yeah, absolutely. And thank you for that opportunity. Watson Watch Company, we’re based in Dallas, Texas. I founded it in 2018. And we’re an explicitly, openly, boldly Christian American patriotic company. And we really embody each of those values very heavily. And as you mentioned, we put Bible verse references on the back of all our watches. We talk openly. Obviously on this program, I’m talking openly, but like on our social media and our website about God and about controversial issues. Because one of the things that sometimes I think Christians don’t necessarily see is that God didn’t seed politics to the secular. When Jesus says all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me,

Isaac Crockett:

It means

Paul Brown:

All authority. So we should boldly talk about all the issues, politics, culture, ethnicity, commerce, business, trade, whatever it is. We don’t check our religion at the door. We don’t check our Christianity, our relationship with Jesus at the door on any of these topics.

Isaac Crockett:

That’s so good. Paul, thank you so much. This has been so insightful and hopefully enlightening just looking at history, looking at the facts, looking at the truth. I would encourage you, go to wassanwatch.com or follow up their social media. Maybe you could buy a watch for your pastor, for a pastor’s appreciation, or maybe a gift for yourself. Everybody, until next time, I hope that all of you will stand in the gap for truth wherever you are today.