Reviewing the Old and Revealing the New: A Look at 2025
Dec. 31, 2024
Host: Dr. Jamie Mitchell
Co-host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 12/31/24. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Jamie Mitchell:
Hello friends, and welcome to a very special New Year’s Eve edition of Stand In the Gap. Today I am Jamie Mitchell, director of church culture here at the American Pastors Network, and I’m teaming up today with our president, Sam Rohre, as we attempt to wrap up 2024 and look ahead to 2025. Sam, happy New Year. We just have a few hours left of what would many say was a historic year, and I think it’s appropriate that we would be together on this last day of 2024 and share what has happened this past year and to get some ministry updates of what this coming year is going to look like. Welcome to the program that you host all the time.
Sam Rohrer:
Hey, Jamie, great to be with you here at the close of the year. It’s a great time to look back, time to look ahead, and I know 2025 ahead of us is going to be eventful. If it’s anything like 2024 and we look back,
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, Sam, before we embark on 2025, most of the time we have a very, very focused program, but I thought today we’d be just a little bit more lighthearted and maybe more personal and hear from each other what we thought about this past year. From your perspective, Sam, as you have studied this past year as you have reported and shared, could you surface for our audience the five most newsworthy events from your perspective?
Sam Rohrer:
Yeah, Jamie, I can do that. I’m not actually, I don’t have them in order per se. I’m just going to give some, and I’m going to end on the one that I think is probably the most significant as I look at it. One of them I see is this, we live in an age where the world is doing one thing, but I see, and I’m encouraged by the remnant, I’m going to say the remnant with an increased discernment and fervor to share the gospel. I think that is something that I’ve seen that’s a good thing. Second thing is that I see a continued, I’m going to say flight into apostasy by many, within quote unquote the church, a la de da type of a thing. And again, we can talk about that, but I see that because there’s been a departure from the truth within those in the church.
And another one I would say is that this year was marked by an extraordinary undefinable or undeniable anticipation by all Americans, and frankly, the world as it looked forward to the November 5th election. But I see within that there was a hope for better days. That was a big one that was marked the entire year. Another one I think was without a doubt, there is an increasing evidence, I’m going to say, of a lawless mentality, an institutionalized corruption. We see it in Washington and it’s worked itself out. I think that is one we can’t deny. The last one actually first is as I think it’s significant, I’ve seen Jamie throughout this year, we’ve covered it so many times on our various programs and elsewhere, and I’m going to say it this way, an irrefutable unfolding of biblical prophecy and evidence of the Lord’s return. I cannot look anywhere. We cannot deal with a headline with without looking at how it fits into prophecy. And it seems like everything is fitting into prophecy, and that takes us right to God’s word, which is a great place to start and finish.
Jamie Mitchell:
Yeah. Yes, yes. Well, Sam, let me add my five. As I look past this year, a couple of things. One, and it may seem pretty mundane, but the economics of this year has been amazing. The Dow Jones went over 45,000 for the first time, but right in the middle of one of the worst inflation periods. And so economists are somewhat confused trying to figure out what has happened there. You mentioned a part of my second one, and that was the taking of the White House, the House, the Senate, but more importantly the reasons that people voted. And we saw that kind of wave in the inflation and immigration. But also third thing is parents rising up and saying, enough is enough in the schools with transgender issues, with women, sports being attacked and all of that. And then the last two kind of go hand in hand at the end of this year seeing all of the pardons, the myriad of pardons, the hunter Biden, pardon, and knowing that there’s something wrong with that. But included in that, Sam is the assassination attempt of President Trump the breakdown of the secret service, the house hearings on COID and of January 6th, which brings me to probably like you, the prophetic piece, me in the world here today. And that is a tremendous mistrust of the government and of our institutions. Sam, we’ve talked about this. That really is a concern on the American mind, isn’t it? This mistrust of government?
Sam Rohrer:
Well, it is, Jamie, and I think, and we’ve talked about many programs here in the last weeks or so, but that’s been my fundamental concern that what we have been witnessing for the last four years, what we are witnessing now as we speak almost seems to be a targeted, undercutting intentional effort to destroy that concept of trust between citizen and government. But I’m going to say broader than that is between individual and any authority. I mean, when you think about it, Jamie, we came out of 2020 in Covid with about 10% only of the American people trusting government. But what we’ve been witnessing over the last weeks is a much further erosion when they say, we can’t believe anybody in government. But when you transfer that to me, that goes to the heart of, well, then what happens then if you can’t trust government or authority, who do you trust? Well, somebody or yourself. But that is to me, that part of what to me says prophecy being fulfilled.
Jamie Mitchell:
And part of this, Sam, this whole mistrust, this feeling of mistrust not only goes to the government, but it also spills over to the media. And that’s why so many people, they love what we do here. It stand in the gap today and on your television program and all that because we are becoming a trusted voice. We speak to these issues on a daily, weekly basis. And we not only try to explain the news and give accuracy the news, but then we do the analysis of, and then we try to give a sense of trustworthiness. And I know that those events just scratch the surface of all that’s occurred this past year. And that doesn’t fully sum up 2024, but it does give us a good picture of what happened this past year. But when we come back, just like we analyze things in the world and the news, we want to get specific and discuss another topic that we love, and that is the church. And how is the Christian community fairing this year and what does 2025 bring? Sam and I am joining you today to wrap up this past year and to look ahead to the new year. Don’t go anywhere, come right back for Stand in the Gap today,
Sam Rohrer:
Jamie Mitchell and I, it’s a pleasure to work with you, Jamie, and we’re going to switch back and forth a little bit on this program, but in the last segment, we reviewed a few of your top five summations of 2024, and I did the same thing. And there’s a lot of different ways to look at 2024 because at the end of the year like this, great time to look back, but it’s because we have a whole year now in front of us. And most of the things that you and I mentioned were things that were evident around us in events of the day. But we deal here and are concerned to talk much about the church and you in the capacity as director of our church culture. And interacting with pastors is your primary effort. And we just get to see you here on the program when you host the program here, which I appreciate so very, very much.
But one of the things that we began, Jamie, about three or four years ago, and you have been the director, the writer of it, that is specifically looking at the church. When we get into January, we always look forward people due to the state of the Union address. Well, here it is the end of this month, and you and I talked about it and said, we ought to do something on the state of the church, the state of the church, this year’s report, which is available on our website. By the way, ladies and gentlemen, very beautiful, very, very written. It’s called Reclaiming Lost Things. And you can find it. Jamie, let me just ask you this question. That was your idea to go that direction of reclaiming lost things. Why did you pick that theme and from where does that idea actually come?
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, Sam, in first Samuel 30, there’s an interesting story where David takes his mighty men and they go up to the Philistines, and obviously the Philistines had been, their enemy had been a threat, but he has this idea that he’s going to go up there and he’s going to have some diplomatic conversations with them and maybe even partner up with them. So to bring peace and to calm everything down, even though they were the enemy. And that all sounds real good, and we’re all for diplomacy. But the problem is, while he’s up there dealing with the Philistines, the Amalekites come into his camp and basically kidnap his, all the wives, all the children burn down the camp, take all of their precious things and basically destroys their home. David and his men come back, see the ashes, see the smoldering smoke, see all their loved ones have been taken, and he is devastated.
And it hits him that his foolishness of thinking that he could team up and partner up with the Philistines is what distracted him. And the enemy came in like a flood. And when I read that story, Sam, and also as I was researching this past year and where we think the church is at, the parallels are unbelievable because in some respects, the church has got distracted. They started really 15, 20 years ago. They got distracted trying to partner up with the world in many things within the church, thinking that partnering with the world, partnering with things antithetical to the church would help the church grow. It didn’t happen. And ultimately when we now come back and we look at this condition of the church’s, it’s empty, it’s been stripped. Some of it’s on fire. And we need now to go back and reclaim some things that we have lost in these last, I would say two decades, Sam.
Sam Rohrer:
Yeah, I agree totally with you, Jamie. And when you asked me at the beginning, my top five things were, one of them was a departure of the church, and I referred to it as OD Dessan, which is what Revelation chapter three talks about because they as well some others actually, they literally, they gave up certain things which ties in very clearly to what you’re talking about here, lost thing. So in the report, again, ladies and gentlemen, you can go to the website and you can find it. Return to god.com is where you will find that you say these things. Jamie, you identified 10 things, 10 things that the church has lost in comparison to those things that were involved with that story with David. But the church needs to get back if it’s going to do anything all remotely close to what the church is supposed to do. What are some of those things?
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, yeah, Sam, we recognize that every church has their own ministry initiatives and things they think they need to work on. But as again, we look across the landscape of churches like we do, we’ve identified some core things that we need to get back to. Let me go through a number of them and then we can highlight some. We say that they need to reclaim prayer in the church. I know that sounds like we’re stating the obvious, but Sam, there is a prayerlessness in the church. We need to reclaim our authority and doctrinal clarification and clarity because most Christians don’t understand what they truly believe, and it’s because we’ve had lackluster preaching and really deeper theological teaching. We need to reclaim issues of cultural and political discourse. Forget doing these things during the election year. We need to do them now and talk about what are these biblical issues that are discussed in the public square to help Christians know how to communicate.
We need to reclaim our children and their education, and we have watched school and schooling just abandon the concerns of children and making it almost dangerous for children. And parents may not be able to afford private school, but they need to get involved in that process and find out some options. We need to get back to pastors being an example in a church. Sam, I don’t want to elevate pastors to a higher level, but we are called, and when we fall down on our example, it affects the flock. And a lot of the pastors today just don’t see that calling in their life. We need to reclaim Christian higher education, Christian colleges or suffering. We need to reclaim biblical masculinity in the church. We need to reclaim our seniors and making seniors feel an important part of the church again. And finally, Sam, and we talk about this here, always here at Stand of the Gap, we need to reclaim and time teaching. As you mentioned in the first segment, there is some clarity about the things that are coming now to the end of the age. Well, you know that, and I know that because we are familiar with prophetic teaching, but Sam, we gave up on that in the church 15, 20 years ago. And many of the people in churches today don’t understand the end times. Now that’s the 10 of them. What do you want to do a deep dive on?
Sam Rohrer:
Well, I’m just looking at the time here. We’ve got a couple of little minutes I think just because I mentioned seeing the plan of God unfold before our eyes, and you mentioned that the teaching aspect of it. Let’s just talk about that a little bit. When I go to and read the book of Revelation, it says in verse chapter one, verse three, blessed is he that readeth, blessed is they that hear the word of this prophecy. And basically blessed are those who keep the things which are written therein. That is a most unusual thing. Jamie, what should the awareness of the unfolding plan of God we call prophecy? Why is that so important for all believers at all times, but particularly for the church in this age in which we live now?
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, I mean Sam, it is, you have combined there. Two of the issues I think we need to reclaim or two of the lost things, and that is we need doctrinal clarity. We need the pulpits here in America, especially the evangelical churches, to start helping people understand both the content of scripture, the doctoral distinctions in scripture, and obviously one of those is going to be the issue of the prophetic message of the Bible. And really right from the very beginning in the garden when sin takes place, we have the prophetic message of a savior that is coming, a Christ that would be coming, the Messiah who would show up and crush Satan’s head. We see that prophecy then being spoken about and talked about all through the Old Testament. Christ comes and then a new vision of his second coming then is provided. And so from Genesis to Revelation, there is a prophetic weaving of God’s word.
And the problem is, Sam, is that we have in today’s pulpits, a felt need driven pulpit of what do people want? I want to meet people’s needs, but at the end of the day, we got to give people what they need and they need doctrinal clarity because if they have that clarity, then they’re going to have courage to speak up. They’re going to have power to live on, they’re going to have confidence to trust God. And that’s what’s desperately missing Sam in the church today. And it’s why we say it’s a lost thing that has to be reclaimed.
Sam Rohrer:
There it is, ladies and gentlemen. So that’ll take us into our next segment. So reclaiming Lost things. It’s a part of our new report, which you can find on our website, and it’s actually@letterfromgod.com. And I’m going to explain that a little bit how all of this came about. But you can find there the state of the church, you can find it reclaiming lost things and dig much further into the things that we’re talking about. But until we know what God’s word says, how can we do it? So we know what God’s word says, his wealth commit to doing it his way according to his word, great things happen. So when we come back, we’re going to talk to you to share just a little bit about how it was that we came on the stay of the church report and the heart of the matter, and that is returning to God.
Well welcome back to this special program year end program looking back, looking tomorrow right into the new year. Hopefully you’ve had a good year and you are prepared to walk into the next year starting with walking in the ways of God. Now, Jamie, you and I were talking in the last segment about the state of the church report, which you have assembled. You’ve written, you put that together. It’s an excellent one and people can find it on our website. But just before we went into the break, we were talking about how the church has given up so many things and what it needs, and that’s a part of what you have in the report, prayer emphasis, faithful preaching, theological soundness and others.
And I closed it by saying, what we need, ladies and gentlemen, is a return to God. How do we get back? How do we get back what we have lost? Ladies and gentlemen, what the church has given up, well, back in here’s a little bit of a history back in 2020 we’re coming out of Covid. It was during member of that year. There was an election in the fall as well. It was another big anticipatory year. But I was looking around and I’m thinking, I’m saying, boy, there’s not much trust in God that I’m seeing evidenced in that year. Lots of fear, lots of looking to government, lots of hope for all kinds of things. And that compared with my knowledge of the past years and being in government and all of that, God laid on my heart the concept of asking the question, well, I know what I think about what I’m seeing, but what does God think about America?
What does God think about the government in America, the people in America, the church in America? And from that, the Lord laid on my heart the writing of a fictional but biblically accurate history of America from God’s perspective of how God brought us into being, how he blessed us, how he raised this nation to prominence and how through the years God sent messages to us. But how over the years we ignored God and walked away from him. And yet God in his mercy, just like with the nation of Israel, kept saying, come back to me. Come back to me, which really is a return to God. And from that writing of that letter, as our team looked at it and considered it, we said, you know what? This is something that ought to go beyond just a written page. And so we did. We took it and put it to video.
It’s very dynamic. It’s only about a half hour long and you can find it on our website@letterfromgod.com, and there at that site letter from god.com, you’ll also find all the things that we’re talking about, return to God, which Jamie, one of the things that’s a part of this return to God emphasis, which we’ve been emphasizing for several years, is a return to God Sunday. And you’ve put a lot of work into it. I like you to explain that return to God Sunday, when is it and what is its purpose? And why should a pastor consider staging and being a part of having a return to God’s Sunday in their church?
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, Sam, this is I guess the third or fourth year that we’ve done it in response to your original letter. And our idea was that a pastor or church would take a day early in the new year. We started when we did this, it was in January, but this year it’s February 2nd. That’s kind of the designated day. But a pastor can choose whatever day he wants to do it. But we provide a sample sermon, a theme, we write a follow-up devotional guide to hand out to the entire church. And really it’s a spiritual emphasis day and week where the church can look deep into its heart and ask the question, where am I with the Lord? Have I drifted? Has there been a decline in my relationship? Maybe things are okay, but we need to progress. We need to build upon where we are to get to full maturity.
And so this idea of a return to God Sunday was launched, and we just encourage pastors to do this and hopefully to stir in the hearts of God’s pp and oh, Sam, we desperately need to see revival in our country, but revival in our country, in our nation, we know it’s needed, but it’s not going to happen unless God’s people return to him and God’s people get serious. And so that’s our focal point. And so we produce a lot of resources and helps, and we just want to give this to pastors because we believe if they will take that day and that follow-up week that God could do and begin to ignite a new spirit of fervency in their church’s heart.
Sam Rohrer:
Now, Jamie, now this is geared, this return to God emphasis and return to God. Sunday we’re talking about it, ladies and gentlemen. It’s February 2nd. That’s a designated day here, just about a month from now. This January’s coming up tomorrow, then February that February 2nd. But Jamie, as you said, and it’s important, those who are listening understand, if you’re a pastor and you are listening to this, maybe you already have something scheduled for that day. We’re not saying that you have to do it that day, but what we are saying is this emphasis to your people is so important that choose a day in which you can do that and lead your people in considering, am I right with God? Where am I with the Lord? What am I doing? How would the Lord gauge what I am doing as a part of a return to God? And from out of that, now, Jamie, you already mentioned it, but there are materials that you put together as not to tell pastors or churches what to do, but to be a big help, and that we know that they have been a big help. Cite again what that is and then where that can be found.
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, Sam, they can go on a letter from god.com and all the materials here, but I think what’s significant is the theme that we’ve picked this year. We pick a theme every year. This year’s theme is an interesting one. We’ve entitled this year when Jesus speaks to the Church. And we get that from Revelation two and three. At the beginning, part of Revelation, we have a picture of the Lord of the church, a vision that John has. Jesus comes and he tells about the churches of Asia Minor. There were seven of them listed. There were probably more of them. They flowed out of the Ephesus Church and it really was a male route. But as he talks about each of those churches, as that letter from the Lord Jesus shows up, there’s a specific message to each church. And if we understand it that they all would’ve read about all of the churches.
They would’ve heard the whole thing. But as you study that, what you see is in five of the churches, a pattern of decline from a church that was a good church. It was doing okay, but it had lost its first love. That was Ephesus. And as you travel around to the rest of the churches, it gets to the lay of Theia, which is the church of the apostate, the church that is operating as a church, but it is not devoted to Christ. The Lord has to departed that church. And so Sam, we as we’ve constructed the resources we’ve provided, so pastors can walk their church through it, they can evaluate where they are on that scale. They’re going to take a look at the other two churches, Smyrna and Philadelphia. Those were good churches. They were a suffering church and a serving church. And then the devotional guide takes them through eight days from the Monday through the following Monday.
And we dig down to each of the churches, and we’ve had some of our stand in the gap personnel as well as guests that we’ve had on write a chapter of that devotional guide. And at the end, a recommitment to now how to avoid becoming Laodicea. And if they can figure out where they are, the pathway back to fervency and faithfulness and fruitfulness. And that’s really the return to God, Sam. And we think that this year, if churches will commit to do this, we just believe that God will do a great work and they can take the sample sermon, they can use it, they can preach it for themselves, or they can just use it as a study guide. And we think that that would be a tremendous blessing. And Sam, we then want to hear from churches. We want to hear from the churches that do this and give us a word back. And if we can help in any way, that’s why I do what I do as the director of church Cultural and pastoral engagement.
Sam Rohrer:
And Jamie, we’re about to end here, ladies and gentlemen. Most of you who are listening to me are not pastors. I understand that, and Jamie understands that. So you say, well, does this apply to me? I’m going to say, yes it does. I’m going to encourage you as a listener, go to that website letter from god.com, watch that video, which has been very, very, very watched, and see if it does not lead you to the same conclusion that we need to return to God. You can also find there the state of the church report that will help you as much as your pastor. You may want to actually print it off or you may want to have a link or whatever. If you are a person who’s faithful to church, talk to your pastor now about them and about the need of doing this and make him perhaps aware of this available material. If there’s ever a time for us as God’s people to be, as Jesus said, be a lamp stand so that our light shines forth it is now. And so with that, we put that forward to you. Stay with us here now as we finish up the program and discuss as we look ahead briefly for the year ahead here in 2025 as it relates to a
Jamie Mitchell:
Well. Thank you so much, not just for being with us today, but for your faithful followership, for your faithful giving to another year of ministry here at the American Pastors Network and stand in the gap today. And you not only listen to Stand in the Gap today, many of you watch us on tv, and we’re just amazed. We’re amazed at your faithfulness. And so from all of us here, a full-hearted thank you today, we’ve been recapping this past year and starting to look towards a new year. Sam Rohrer, 2025, I think marks the 12th year of the American Pastors Network and nearly a decade of media ministry. Many things have changed over the years and new opportunities are always opening up to us here at the American Pastors Network and for standing the gap. Sam, as we finish up today, I want to do two things. I want you to tell us a little bit of some new doors that opened to us that the Lord opened to us in 2024, and then we’re going to talk about 25. But as we look back, God opened some amazing doors for us this year. What were some of those things?
Sam Rohrer:
Well, Jamie, there were several, and I’ll just focus on this at the moment because we are on radio right now and we are reaching people across the world. I want to just focus on that just a bit because this program right here, that Standing the Gap today is only one of three programs. I think most of our listeners, you’re listening know this, but they have this program. There is a weekend program called Stand in the Gap weekend, and then there’s Stand Gap minute program that you just heard played in the break. Now, those three programs, they’re on different numbers of stations. This one here’s on over five hundred and twenty five, twenty five plus stations across the country, the weekends on about 800 stations, the minute programs on about 800 stations this year, God expanded the outreach here in this country by adding over 30 new stations to carry this program and the weekend and the minute.
That is extraordinarily significant. Then Jamie, now to share this as well, this was something that was totally unexpected during this summary. In October, actually, Dr. Gary Dahl, co-host on the program here, also a board member with us at American Pastors Network put together a pastor’s conference in Kenya where a ministry from his church missionary work has some missionaries. And bottom line was, there was a conference to which we went and I spoke and he spoke, Dr. George Barna did a program by video, but there were over a thousand pastors in that setting. These were Bible believing pastors, Jamie and believe in authority of scripture we were there to bear down on and help them understand a biblical worldview and to do what we do here on this program emphasize a biblical worldview, the authority of scripture and its application in people’s lives. Well, out of that came a wonderful response.
That group of pastors happened to have a radio, a hundred thousand Wat FM Station, five translators that cover all of Kenya, Kenya, probably the leading country in Africa with Christian principles. And if there’s a country able to influence a continent for Christ, it would be Kenya. But bottom line out of that, this program right here, staying on the gap today, what we’re doing today will be heard in Kenya and the weekend and the minute reaching millions of new people there in Africa. And the responses that we’re Jamie from that from a hungry audience is really an incredible and amazing thing. That is just some of what has taken place in 2024, in addition that I didn’t even mentioned tv, expansion of tv, but this program in particular is now literally being heard worldwide and we’re hearing from people. It just is a demonstration of the blessing from God and how he opens doors.
Jamie Mitchell:
Sam, it’s amazing. As you look at what we do here, it’s fairly simple. We look at issues facing the world today, current events, issues in the church, and I handle a lot of those whenever I’m on the radio. And then we ask the question, what does God want us to do? How does God want us to respond? What does God’s word say about it? And because of that, as Francis Shaver used to say, how then shall we live? And it’s a very simple formula that we have here, but it’s powerful. And God, I think is blessing it because he’s opening up opportunities and it’s exciting to see God work. But Sam, we also look at now at 2025, and we don’t want to get ahead of God. We want to walk with him, but we also have a glimpse that maybe some things that God has for us in the future. What do you think? You’ve been at this now a dozen years. What do you sense and see that’s coming, and especially in light of where our nation is at, because so much of what we do is in response where we think the country is going.
Sam Rohrer:
Jamie, a couple of things I think out of that, let me just go back and visit first what I just concluded with, and that is the expansion of ministry in Africa already, the churches there and the pastors and they’re such involved, have said, this program needs to be in a number of other countries. Now we’re in English, they’re in Kenya because it’s an English speaking country, and they can understand it. But the common language of much of Central Africa, as an example, is in Swahili. Well, English is not Swahili. I can’t speak Swahili. So how do we take this program, these programs and put it into Swahili? We’re working on that technology now, Jamie with, and this would be a positive aspect of this thing called artificial intelligence. Otherwise, I’m very, very cautious about artificial intelligence. But being able to take and translate this program that we speak like right now and put it into a language, a common language, if that, I’m going to say not if, but when that occurs, I believe early into next year it will reach multiple countries and millions of new people.
That is something that ladies and gentlemen do pray with us about. And then Jamie here in our country, I think no matter what happens, no matter how you look at it, 2025 is going to be an eventful year. 2024 was very eventful. I see it only increasing in 2025 globally as well as here in America. And I think because of that, our messaging, taking biblical worldview to the issues of the day and helping people to understand how to interpret it and then how to live in light of it, it’s been important. I think it’s going to be even more important next year.
Jamie Mitchell:
Sam, I said to somebody the other day is that we have been focused on the White House in 2024. I think we need to start getting focused on God’s house in 2025. And so things like the return to God Sunday and stand the state of the church address and the things that you have talked about in regards to prophecy and all those things are so crucially important. And so we really would covet the prayers of our listening audience, our virtual congregation as we call it, to really pray for us because we want to be sensitive to the spirit of God. We want to do the things that God would be pleased with, and we want to be able to meet the needs of God’s people in God’s church. Sam, you got about 30 seconds. What can our audience count on concerning American Pastor’s Network and especially the core values that we uphold?
Sam Rohrer:
Well, Jamie, we’re right out of time. What ladies and gentlemen, with God’s grace and help and your prayer support and your financial partnering support, we will stay fixated on the authority of God’s word. Not our opinion, but what God says. God’s will done God’s way in accordance to God’s Word. That’ll be the guide and remain the guide of this program.
Jamie Mitchell:
Well, thank you. Have a great New Year’s day and a new year, and remember, live and lead with courage. God needs courageous Christians. From Sam and the rest of the APN Family, God bless you, and thank you for joining us today on Stand In the Gap Today.
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