Remembering the Roots: America’s Judeo-Christian Legacy at 250

Remembering the Roots: America’s Judeo-Christian Legacy at 250

Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer

Guest: Steve Herzig

Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 7/15/26. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.

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Sam Rohrer:

Hello and welcome to this Wednesday edition of Stand in the Gap Today. And it’s also our bimonthly focus on Israel, the Middle East and biblical prophecy. Now today, as I look around the world headline news, I could go in a lot of different places from the greatly expanding war in the Middle East with Iran. Now with Yemen, it appears having joined the conflict or I could focus on our president’s official rejection of the recent MOU memorandum of understanding that he just signed with a growing though uncontrolled war appearing certain and it’s already impacting global economic issues as well. But instead, we’re not going to go there. Instead, I want to continue our ongoing multi-part series now. Actually, this will be number six in the series, we’d call it that way, of marking America’s milestone 250th anniversary year today by pursuing from a vantage point that’s both intrinsically foundational and deeply misunderstood though in our modern culture.

Now the title I’ve chosen to frame this conversation, it’ll tell you where we’re going and it’s this, remembering the roots America’s Judeo-Christian legacy at 250. Now we routinely hear this phrase, we all do, Judeo-Christian. It’s used often thrown around in political debates, cultural commentary, academic lectures referred to very often. It’s a staple of our civic vocabulary yet despite its familiarity, and I will say it’s accurate description of an indisputable worldview because it is a worldview, very few people today actually understand what it meant to our founders, what it means for us now, or how it practically shaped the birth of our republic. It’s not just a convenient modern buzzword. It’s the specific moral, philosophical and legal bedrock upon which the entire American experiment was built. It’s kind of like this. If you cut the roots of a tree, the branches will eventually wither. And to understand why our culture is shaking today, and it is, and we talk about that much, we must examine what it is from which we have walked.

And to help us look back at these historic roots and evaluate our present cultural drift and I’m going to say peer into our prophetic future as well. I’m thrilled to welcome back to the program Steve Herzig. Steve is a messianic Jewish believer. He gave his testimony last month when he was with me. He’s an author. He’s retired vice president of North American Ministries for the Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry. And Steve, I’m really glad to have you back with me today. It was a joy to have you then and we’ve got a great topic to undergo here today.

Steve Herzig:

Thanks, Sam. I really appreciate the invite.

Sam Rohrer:

Let’s start at the beginning here in this first segment. I’m going to titling it The Foundation, because if we’re going to remember our roots, which is the direction and the image I’m trying to build through the program, we have to define our terms. For instance, when we see this familiar hyphenated term, Judeo-Christian, what are we actually saying? State, for instance, break this down. What is the Judeo root portion? What is the Christian root portion? And how do these two distinct worldviews merge to form a singular foundation for human liberty? Judeo, Christian.

Steve Herzig:

Sam, I appreciate the question. When we think of Judeo-Christian and go back 250 years, that term wasn’t even something they were familiar with, yet it really defines that very beginning. We think of Judeo, of course, as the Jewish roots. It’s the Old Testament scriptures. And the founders were at least Christian in the sense that they read their Bible in the generic term. And so from a Jewish and Christian point of view, there’s a few things that we share together. We share a religious heritage. Christianity was birthed out of Judaism, biblical Judaism. And so it forms a moral framework. There’s a historical connection between the two. It highlights the fact that we believe in one God. The Jewish people say, “Here, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one and you shall love him with all your heart, soul and mind.” And Christians would give a hearty amen.

There’s ethical principles that are found in the 10 Commandments. And so we share that as well. The Bible itself, we share half of that. The Jewish people believing the Old Testament and Christians believing the old and the New Testament. So we share those roots. We share the same book. We share the idea of monotheism, of the law, moral law and human dignity. And so these things are incorporated into the Judeo-Christian worldview, if you will, even before that term was coined because the Jewish people that were here in this country came because they were fleeing persecution and coming to a place where they could practice what they wanted and were respected because of their foundation, which is the Old Testament text.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay. That’s excellent. Now just give a couple of examples here, if you don’t mind. This imprint, the Judeo-Christian worldview, and that’s what it is. It’s a worldview. And it’s just like you said, Judeo, Old Testament, Jewish focus, New Testament, Christian focused, but Christianity takes and puts together the old and the new. So Judeo-Christian is appropriate. Give a couple of examples of where you see that very specific worldview finding its way in and leaving an indelible mark, say for instance, just on the framework of our American Republic.

Steve Herzig:

The prophet Isaiah wrote this in the 33rd chapter in verse 22. It says, “For the Lord is our judge. The Lord is our law giver and the Lord is our king.” Now that’s taken from the prophet. And our government is built on three distinct branches of government lifted, if you will, and applied to our own system. And that is the Lord is our judge. We have the Supreme Court and we have federal courts and that’s taken right from that verse. The Lord’s our law giver, we have Congress and then the Lord is our king. Well, we don’t have a king. Thank God for George Washington. He didn’t want to be king. They didn’t want a king, but they took the idea and the presidency is taken extrapolated from that. Not only that, on the Liberty Bell, it’s very interesting. Of all books, Sam, Leviticus is one of the verses from Leviticus is imprint.

It is actually on the Liberty Bell, proclaim liberty throughout the land to all inhabitants thereof. From Leviticus where most of us don’t even read the Book of Leviticus. I do. I think it’s an important book, but most Christians don’t even read it. And yet the founders quoted from it. And we can see it if you take a trip to Philadelphia right on the Liberty

Bell.

Sam Rohrer:

Okay. Thank you, Steve. Excellent. Ladies and gentlemen, there’s a whole lot more. Separation of powers, representative government, the 10 commandments as the basis of our judicial system. It just goes on and on and on. Remembering the roots, America’s Judeo-Christian legacy. That’s where our focus is today. Stay with us. We’ll be back in just a moment. Well, if you’re just joining us, welcome aboard. We’re beginning our second segment here of four. If you’ve never joined us before, we have four segment. This is an hour program. And we generally select headline news and then bring to it a biblical worldview perspective looking through the lenses of scripture. And today here on our bimonthly focus, which we’ve done really from the beginning on Israel, the Middle East and the biblical prophecy. My special guest is Steve Herzig. He’s retired vice president of the North American Ministries Division of Friends of Israel, raised as an Orthodox Jew.

He trusted Yeshua as Messiah after graduation from college. A month ago, if you go to our website, you can actually look in the archives and you can hear his testimony because we talked about it in the last segment. The theme today, I’m really glad to have him with me because it really brings an interesting combination as we approach today’s theme. And that is this, remembering the roots America’s Judeo-Christian legacy. And this is part of like an ongoing focus that we’ve been doing. This would actually be the sixth if we’d link them all together as different perspectives, a way of looking at our nation in our 250th anniversary year. And in that regard, we continue the broadcast here by looking at this aspect of it and that’s the significance of the phrase Judeo-Christian. Now to truly understand our theme, remembering the roots, the Judeo-Christian roots, we have to look at a bit of a remarkable history of the term.

So in preparation for that, I did some of that here today. Let me just share just a little bit with you about this because it may be helpful. Surprisingly, this phrase, as my guest Steve mentioned in the last segment, is fairly recent, meaning it had a beginning and it did not begin as a cultural or a political descriptor as we would use it today. It was first coined in English when those words were put together in 1821 and that subscribed to an Irish missionary. The term narrowly referred to Jewish converts to Christianity, Judeo-Christian. But by the mid 1800s, European theologians used it to describe first century believers who maintained mosaic law. And it wasn’t until the dark ages of the late or the dark days, not the ages, but the dark days of the late 1930s in our nation when the looming shadow of European fascism arose, that things began to change.

Writers like George Orwell, believe it or not, began using the phrase Judeo-Christian to describe what he called a shared ethical scheme of morals. Those were his words. Later in the 1950s, President Eisenhower and civic leaders popularized it to unite a diverse America in an effort to build a resistance to the threat of godless Soviet communism. And what began as a narrow theological label evolved into the moral, civic and spiritual framework describing what we now call the free world or the Western world. So that’s interesting. It’s important to have that in mind as we look at Judeo-Christian. But that brings us directly here to segment two where I’m looking at the contribution because we simply can’t fully appreciate this Judeo-Christian legacy without recognizing the physical, the spiritual and the financial sacrifices of early Jews, Jewish community in America. And though they only made up about one 10th of 1% according to history of the revolutionary area population, their impact on the birth and survival of our nation America was absolutely monumental.

So Steve, let’s shine a light on some of the unsung Hebrews, put it that way, going back to the American Revolution. One such person many of our listeners may know about the Jewish financier, Haim Solomon, who personally negotiated the vital loans that kept our early continental Congress from bankruptcy. Now that’s a great one to start with. Could you share more about this man and the vital role that he played?

Steve Herzig:

He did play a vital role. Haim Solomon… Actually, there’s a statue of his in Chicago. I used to live in Chicago and I was surprised that he was remembered there. He was born in 1740 and he passed away in 1785. He gave all his money $650,000, which today might not seem like a lot. Seems like a lot to me, but back then you’re talking about almost 15 or 16 million dollars. And he gave it, it helped pay the soldiers who fought at Yorktown and it also helped finance the war itself. And so Solomon played a incredible role. But Sam, the Jewish participation in the war, the revolutionary war was really the first time since the exile of Jerusalem that they could fight alongside Christian neighbors as equals in a fight for freedom. They were present at Bunker Hill at Valley Forge and at other battle sites throughout the colonies.

And so like Haim Solomon, they might provide logistical support. They could help raise funds. There was a man named Isaac Moses of Philadelphia who outfitted privateers to harass British shipping. There is a individual by the name of a name that most of us would never hear of Mordecai Sheftal in Savannah, Georgia. He became the deputy commissioner of general for the federal troops. So there was a vast Jewish, even though they were such a small amount of people compared to the overall population, they were enthusiastic. Now, not all of them. There are certainly some loyalist Jewish people as well. But the idea of this experiment that we called democracy in America was something so highly favored that individual Jews would not just give all their wealth, but their very lives to support it.

Sam Rohrer:

All right. That’s excellent. Now from an historical perspective, at the very early part of our nation when, as I mentioned, from a historical perspective, the Jewish percentage of our nation was very, very small. Just a couple percent, a tenths of percent were saying here, at least what I found from research. From what you know, from what countries were they coming at that point? And can you provide any insight at all into how did they know about the new world? And were they really coming because they knew this was a new world that might be helpful to a persecuted Jewish minority?

Steve Herzig:

That’s a great question. There’s two groups of Jewish people primarily after the diaspora. There’s the Sephardic Jews, which would be Eastern European Jews and their Ashkenazi. And Sephardic would be from places like Morocco and Spain. The early settlers were mostly Sephardic. That is, they came from Spain, Morocco, those places. Sometimes it was for persecution. Sometimes it was for opportunity, just like a lot of other people whose personalities are, they love the idea of starting new, a brand new place and being able to carve your own destiny, if you will. This was attractive to many Jewish people. And so they had different reasons for coming, but many of them were very religious. In fact, George Washington wrote a letter to a synagogue in 1790. Now this would have been after the Revolutionary War, but it was a pretty famous letter. The synagogue is Touro Synagogue. And some of our listeners might be familiar with this quote.

He wrote in his letter, “For happily the government of the United States, which gives no bigotry to bigotry, no sanction, to persecution, no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.” And he also said, “Everyone shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid.” That was a very appealing thought to Jewish people coming to this country. And by the way, it still is for legal immigrants who want to settle in this country.

Sam Rohrer:

That’s great, Steve. And ladies and gentlemen, let me share one other thing that I found in my research here. George Washington, very critical, and the connection’s already been made there. According to history, there was a rabbi from Toro Synagogue who wrote to Washington, welcoming him to Newport, Massachusetts it was. And in response to that, Washington wrote back to him and he closed his letter and quoting Micah chapter four: four. And he said there, and it explains itself. He said, “May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the goodwill of the other inhabitants while everyone shall sit in the safety under his own vine and fig tree.” That’s what comes from Michael four: four. “And there shall be none to make him afraid. “Isn’t that significant? So very clearly the Judeo-Christian component was visible. It was present from the very, very beginning of our nation in wonderful ways.

All right, so Judeo-Christian, very clear, very real. Then when we come back, we’re going to talk about and look at some of the things that I’m going to call the erosion of the modern Judeo-Christian actually becoming a crisis. After looking in the last segment at the, well, actually specific Jewish people, individuals who were instrumental in the founding the early days of our country, we gave just a few. And then I read just a little bit of a letter from George Washington to a rabbi and basically extending the recognition as the stock of Abraham and then quoting from Micah four: four saying here, this would be a nation where the people would find security. Things have happened since then. Our goals were moving. That was then. And then the principles of Judeo-Christian thought worldview institutionalized within our nation, our frame of government, our documents of law.

And we could spend an entire day talking on that. But I’m going to go on because those things though are eroding. And I think they’re being manifest in a number of different ways, but I think to truly understand what we’re losing and then go into our focus here, the erosion of the Judeo-Christian philosophy and mindset. I’m saying it’s actually a crisis, I believe. I think we need to look at some of the specific crews being eroded. For instance, here’s just a sum. Our nation’s birth certificate, which we’ve talked about a lot on this program, what is that? The Declaration of Independence. It is a thoroughly Judeo-Christian document. It clearly outlines the core tenants primarily referenced in Old Testament Judeo tenets of, for instance, our liberty. The God of the Bible as our sovereign creator right from the first of Genesis. He is the sole giver of unalienable rights.

The fact that human government is tasked by God with protecting those God-given rights. The concept of accountability where the signers of the declaration concluded by appealing to the great supreme judge of the world before whom all would stand. And of course, all of these truths are culminated in the New Testament where Jesus Christ himself comes, talks about the Old Testament law and then goes beyond into beatitudes and takes and expands it, combining all of that. So my guest today, Steve Herzig, made it very, very clear that Jews, the Jewish people hold to the Old Testament. Christians are known for holding to the New Testament, but true believers understand that the old and the new are together. God didn’t separate them. He completed them. They are together. And so all of that, but things have changed in our country. Here’s an example. The erosion is not just a natural cultural shift.

And we see it in our country. It’s a deliberate turning away from God and his truth. We see that in the Old Testament. We see that all the way through the New Testament. A few stats. For the first time in modern polling, Gallup reports that the percentage of Americans who consider religion very important, that’s just religion, that’s very general, has dropped below 50%, 47%. Meanwhile, those claiming no religious affiliation called the nuns, and we’ve talked about that on the program, George Barna, that skyrocketed to nearly 30% of the population. It’s a staggering leap from the 1940s. According to George Barna, again on this program, 94% of Americans embrace the false religion of syncretism. By definition, that is idolatry, 94%. So when a society rejects the creator as the source of human rights, law and morality, the entire structure of liberty begins to collapse. And of course we see that in the number of abortions and all that kind of thing.

So you get the point, but there are impacts and that’s the erosion part. Steve, when we look at the core tenets of the declaration, God is creator, the giver of rights, the ultimate judge and so forth, and we see a nation built on the concept of divine accountability, which it was, and our founders talked about it, fear of God, a sense that he is creator and judge. That’s clearly changed. The numbers I gave are just an indication. So here’s my question. From your perspective, why does the erosion of truth that we’re talking about, Judeo-Christian principles, why does that evidently manifest itself as a direct hostility toward the very people of the book, a reference to Jewish people resulting in what we’re seeing the rise of antisemitism and the targeting I think of even Bible believing Christians? Why is that?

Steve Herzig:

Well, interesting you bring that up. A verse found when the author, whoever he is, wrote the book of Hebrews to the Jewish people. In Hebrews 10:31, it says, “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” The fear of God, as you were just speaking about, is one that is losing its punch in our culture where the founders and certainly the Jewish people that were so much a part of the revolution believed that God was their judge. But I would tell you there’s always been a war and the war is a spiritual war. And it’s manifested itself in different ways because the personalities involved in that war, of course, are Satan and God. God has a plan and a program and his plan and program has front and center been the Jewish people. And Satan has raised up all kinds of enemies throughout the years, primarily to prevent the Messiah of the Jewish people, the Redeemer from coming.

Then when he came, he tried to have him bypass the cross and now he’s doing everything he can to prevent him from coming again. And so this battle that goes on will always manifest itself against the Jewish people.

You could be against a lot of things and people, but the Jewish people stand out as the key enemies in our culture. And the greatest example of that happened October 7th, 2023, where everyone who has a TV and watches the news saw what happened. And then even though that happened, within a day, there were insinuations that it was all Israel’s fault and people believed the lie. Sam, I can’t help but think of Ephesians chapter six and starting in verse 10 to 18, which really talk about being strong in the Lord and putting on the full armor of God and then listing all those things. I think the church, the Bible believing church is in part guilty of not doing what it has supposed to do and spreading the gospel, informing the church, teaching and preaching. We’re losing ground. And I think your statistics are so good, helpful because the surveys indicate that we’re losing the war as well.

Sam Rohrer:

Let me go get to this next part if you don’t mind. The 94% of Americans that embrace syncretism and idolatry, that’s a big number, but about 70% now it is of Americans self-profess to be Christians yet according to George Martin’s surveys, and we’ve talked about it much here, only about 6% of them actually embrace a biblical worldview, meaning that they believe that the word of God is authoritative. So when you get right down to it, there is a true small remnant of those who are truly believers within that group who call themselves Christians. But within the Jewish faith, there’s always been a remnant all the way through the old Testament. There was a big body of Jewish people, but there was only a remnant. Compare that kind of thing of what we’re seeing movement of the true remnant of Christianity, a true remnant of Jewish people.

And are the remnant of Jewish people that you would think at, are they messianic Jewish believers or how would that be? Just kind of put that together.

Steve Herzig:

I would say that what the Apostle Paul wrote to the church at Rome talked about a remnant. A remnant theology. You’ve outlined it very well. We think of Elijah who though he was the only one who has not bowed the need of Baal, but God had 7,000. But 7,000 is just a minority of the number of Jewish people. It all boils down to theology, Sam. And I know a lot of people don’t like to hear that, but the scriptures teach that there is only one way, there’s always been one way. And man is programmed from birth to not follow that one way. We’re all sinners. But by the grace of God who opens our eyes to see, none of us would see. And it takes us back, at least back in the days of our founding, there was an overall respect of the word and that respect drifts away culturally as more and more people are drawn away by their own desires, their own thing, their own way.

And it creates a more liberal and less fearful of God culture. And we see that Christians today raising their kids, we’re seeing Generation Z are not in comparison, not interested in spiritual things the way their own parents were. And there’s a whole generation coming that does not have, as an overall group, does not have respect for the word. All

Sam Rohrer:

Right, ladies and gentlemen, our theme today, remembering the roots, America’s Judeo-Christian legacy, doing that in this year that we’re celebrating America’s 250s So we’ve looked back, we’ve looked at people involved, Jewish people involved in impact. We’ve looked around a little bit in this segment. Now we want to look ahead, calling this segment the destiny, the prophetic future of America and Israel. Well, before we go into our final segment, I want to give you the website for Friends of Israel. It’s very easy. F-O-I, friends of Israel, foi.org. If you go there, you can sign up for Israel My Glory Magazine, which I believe is free, and then access yourself to that. Always helpful. Again, my special guest today, Steve Herzig, was their former vice president, retired now, but filling, not actually filling in, but one of the individuals that I’ve had from Friends of Israel, you can pray for Chris, let’s give you his first name, has had some surgery and we need to pray for him.

So if we have time, I’d like to pray for him at the end of the program. But I just mentioned that, so foi.org and then this program you can pick up again obviously on our website or on our Stand in the Gap app. So that being the case, in this program, we’ve defined so far our, I would say unique, and it is unique, Judeo-Christian heritage, a worldview for how to approach life that marks the beginning of America. We’ve highlighted a little bit of the history of that term because it’s fairly recent. We’ve honored the remarkable contributions of just a few early Jewish patriots and confronted the sobering statistics of our present cultural erosion from the foundational Judeo-Christian principles, which begins with the fear of God and the reverence for his word, which really formed the foundation of America’s founding and establish indelible markers on the frame of our government and our very culture.

We’ve also examined briefly the incredible erosion and rejecting of the core principles found in our declaration that of God as creator, God as the giver of rights, earthly government, civil government and its duty of protecting those God given rights, the concept of accountability to God and so forth. We just touched on some of those things, but it brings us here now to our last segment. I’m calling it the destiny, the prophetic future of America and Israel. For all of us believers, we know that the Bible tells us the beginning where we are and it tells us about the end. The spiritual foundation of America cannot be separated as we’ve talked much from the sovereign hand of God and the raising up of this nation, the honoring of the commitment of our founders to fear him and the institutionalizing of biblical foundational Judeo-Christian principles. We also can’t ignore the support of the Jewish people in the past nor consider the trajectory of America future separated from our posture toward the nation of Israel today.

And I could go a number of places, but just for brevity, I’m going to short circuit this a little bit because we have two things in place. God does institute and says there’s a condition about blessing and cursing depending upon how a nation addresses his nation, his people. That’s from the book of Genesis. Nations also run right up front and center with God’s conditional promises, Deuteronomy 28 and other places about fearing God and keeping his commandment. In the past, we did fear God more so and God blessed, and you can read that chapter 28 and it’s us. But he also says, “You walk away from me and things will happen.” You can also read that chapter and you can look at us. Now that being the case, Steve, as a Messianic believer who served for years with Friends of Israel to mention that you understand the deep connection between biblical prophecy and current events.

And I’m going to say here, as we watch global antisemitism rise and international pressures mounting against Israel, in addition to America’s pride and arrogance toward the word of God and accountability to Jesus Christ, some of those percentages I gave in the last segment highlight that. How does America’s treatment of the Jewish nation directly reflect our own spiritual state and our ultimately destiny before I’m going to say the God of Abraham? And just summarize and put all of this together and then bring in the prophetical part. Where do we know we’re going to end up and perhaps are we talking about some things where we’re actually seeing that work out in our day?

Steve Herzig:

Well, Sam, we know the end of the story. God’s told us the end of the story and we know that all the nations of the world will ultimately go against Israel and all to me means all. And so the United States falls into that category, but there is an element of hope. And I’d like to share with you a real quick story. It comes right out of the Talmud. I know that most listeners won’t be familiar with it, but it gives us me a sense of hope and bridges the Jewish or Judeo-Christian idea. The story goes back to 70 AD and the destruction of the temple. And Rabbi Akiva, a very famous rabbi was in Jerusalem with his other rabbis there. They reached Mount… where the temple was in view and they tore their garments. Of course, the temple was destroyed. And they saw a fox start out from where the Holy of Holies had stood and the rabbis, they wept, but Rabbi Akiva laughed and they said to him, “You never cease to amaze us, rabbi.

We’re crying and you laugh.” But Akiva said, “Why are you crying?” And the rabbi said, “Why shall we not weep?” They quoted lamentations and it said, “Because of Mount Zion, which is desolate with foxes walking about it. ” And so they were saying, “Look at the destruction. It’s fulfillment of prophecy. The foxes are walking.” And so Akiva said, “This is exactly why I laugh for just as we’ve seen the prophecies of Jerusalem’s destruction come to pass so too, to know that the prophecies of her future consolation shall also be fulfilled.” I laugh because I remember versus old me and old women will once again sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each with a staff in his hand because of advanced age and the streets of the city will be filled with boys and girls playing in the streets. He quoted Zechariah chapter eight verses four and five.

And I think as we think about America, I’m a pessimistic optimist. I’m pessimistic about America. I love the country, but realize the way the road is traveling, I know the end of the story. But God at any time could intercede and there could be a time where there is a turning to God. We could repent as a nation. We’re allowed to do that. Will we do it is another matter. But the idea of past prophecy only encourages me to realize that God’s going to fulfill all of prophecy and that includes for America as well.

Sam Rohrer:

Chris, that brings us right up to this point. Not ask you ahead of time, but we’ve got about a minute left. How about closing in prayer for these things that we’ve talked about and pray for your colleague Chris as well. Yu and I prayed before the program, but let’s pray for his full recovery because that’s important.

Steve Herzig:

Will do. Will do. Heavenly Father, we come to you as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And in your sovereignty, you’ve raised up America, a wonderful nation that has helped so many countries, so many people and have brought prosperity and encouragement and freedom. We’re thankful. And we’re thankful for Chris and grateful for his ministry and grateful that the medical field has been able to help him through surgery. And we pray for his recovery and ask Lord that you’d raise him back up to full health. Thank you for his participation on a monthly basis here with Sam and being able to talk about the scriptures and Israel and the Jewish people. And we look forward to his coming back next month in your will. Thank you for Sam’s ministry and all the things that he does standing in the gap. What an important ministry. And we’ll give you all the praise, the honor and the glory in Jesus’ name.

Amen.

Sam Rohrer:

Amen. Amen. Steve Herzig, thank you so much. We thank the Lord as well for our fronts of Israel and for the part that you’ve played and all this taking place. And ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being with us today. I trust that the program today and its emphasis and information shared has been edifying, encouraging and help us all to better stand in the gap for the Lord. Boy, there’s nothing better than we can do. Thanks for being with us. We’ll see you back here tomorrow. Thank