Discernment Needed:
Read the Lines and Between the Lines
April 21, 2025
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Leo Hohmann
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 4/21/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
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Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to this Monday installment of Stand in the Gap Today and it’s day after the world’s attention was brought to the Passover and Easter weekend observance. And I certainly trust that you were a part of giving due observance and celebration for that event. Nearly 2000 years ago, the Jewish Messiah, as scripture says, in the fullness of time, stepped into the human race and God became man, the prophesied redeemer, the suffering servant, the religious and the political establishment of that day, just like today reject him and they organized against him and his affirmation that he was alone, the life, the truth, and the way, and that no one would ever see God except to receive justice at the great white throne judgment unless they went through him. And according to the word of God, Jesus’ second coming is just ahead. And this time he will come as a conquering king and he’ll set up a literal global government.
It will be based in Jerusalem where he will physically sit in the most magnificent temple ever built that he will build in this day is coming quickly marked by many other things about which we speak regularly on this program and into the many evidences now comes more change as the result of the death of Pope Francis this morning, seven 30 or so and what will now consume the world’s attention. As burial plans are made, world religious, economic, and political figures continue to weigh in with opinions, their opinions and all eyes will shift for a time to the plan, the gathering of cardinals who in secret ballot will determine the selection of a new pope. These are incredible days of change, but nothing, absolutely nothing compares to the unmatched first coming of Christ and the soon coming tribulation period and Christ second coming. So I put that out there to keep things in perspective.
The most important things remain the most important things. So while today’s emphasis is not on the Pope’s death, I did want to mention it with a bottom line consideration that the minds of all God-fearing people must be to God’s word and unfolding unchangeable prophecy and not be distracted by anything in this age, this age of deception, including such events as the passing of the Pope. Now today, I’ve asked Leo Hohmann, author, researcher, independent investigative journalist with websites@leoHohmann.com and Leo Hohmann.substack.com to join me again as we consider not just this global event of the Pope’s encounter with death and other global events about which we must carefully consider and I think great discernment is needed. And with that, I’ve chosen the title to focus today’s program on this discernment needed. Read between the lines, read the lines, so discernment needed, read the lines, read what is stated, and then read between the lines. With that, welcome Leo to the program. Thank you so much for being here.
Leo Hohmann:
Thank you, Sam for having me. These are indeed exciting times.
Sam Rohrer:
Oh boy, they are. They are indeed. So since you were with me last time, you’ve written a dozen editorials and we’re going to touch on some of those. But I know that this event with the Pope passing, you’ve been bombarded this morning. I am quite sure you’re going to be coming out with an editorial relative to that because this guy was linked to so many other different people and events, but all of which requires great wisdom and discernment. Frankly, everything you write about and we talk about in this program requires discernment. So we have to read what is said and then read between the lines. Here’s my first question to you and that is share your thoughts about what might take place now relative to this pope, the passing of the Pope and the selection of the new Pope, because this is a big change.
Leo Hohmann:
It certainly is. This Pope was notoriously progressive. He did not have the respect, I don’t believe of the majority of Catholics in America, let alone around the world in many of the, there’s many countries that are more conservative than the United States in Africa, in the third world that he certainly did not have the full respect of. And so let’s just look at what he did as Pope, he shut down the auditing process of the Vatican Bank, which we believe was caught up in the whole sexual abuse scandal and other nefarious activities. He shut that down. He sent the pedophile Cardinal Theodore McCarrick to China to negotiate a deal with the Chinese Communist Party where he basically seeded all authority to choose the bishops to the CCP. So we had the CCP having to give its approval for all bishops before there can be appointed in China.
Catholic bishops, he normalized the L-G-B-T-Q toxic ideology within the church. He preached and taught that there was no physical hell, there was no hell, that the souls of unrepentant sinners just disappeared at death. Well, there’s a good chance that Pope Francis may be experiencing hell as we speak. He dismissed conservative bishops throughout the world. He tried to shut down the conservative Catholic Latin mass. He excommunicated Archbishop Vio, who was a conservative voice for Catholicism. This is a man with a long record of doing Satan’s work, and he’s probably going to be eulogized and treated as a wonderful hero pope by the establishment mainstream media in the days ahead.
Sam Rohrer:
And I think it’s going to be, at least for myself, I’m looking to see how people weigh in, even religious leaders from around the world, economic leaders, others are going to weigh in. Political leaders are all going to weigh in, and you’re going to get a tone from them if they eulogize him as a great man. I’m going to raise a big red flag over anybody who tells a lie like that if they don’t believe he actually was a great man that advanced the cause of peace, which he did not. So anyways, I’m curious about what people are going to be saying and there’s a lot weighing in already.
Leo Hohmann:
They really are. And it’s interesting that on the very same day that Pope Francis passed away, Klaus Schwab stepped down as head of the World Economic Forum. He had announced his resignation earlier but did not give a specific date he did today and said he was stepping down. My understanding is immediately, although I haven’t had time to fully research that, but so we have on the same day, within a matter of hours, arguably the world’s two top globalists, Pope Francis and Klau Schwab being eliminated from the scene. And so we are going through an exciting, if not provocative time of transition and I expect the new Pope. This is just a hunch. I don’t have any proof for any sources for this Sam, but I expect the new Pope when he’s named will be a bit more conservative, definitely more charismatic and more likable than Pope Frances.
Sam Rohrer:
Alrighty. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we will find out that time won’t take long probably. But anyways, you’ve turning into the program Standing a Gap today. Leo Hohmann is my guest and our theme today, discernment needed. Read the lines, read what’s stated, but then read between the lines. When you come back, we’re going to pick up and talk about some billionaires of great influence. Well, if you’re just joining us today, welcome on board. Thanks for being with us. Leo Hohmann is my guest today with me frequently, and I know unless you are a brand new listener, you recognize him and appreciate his writing. He has two websites, plenty of articles that he writes regularly. Editorials research, independent research, Leo Hohmann.com. Two ends in that name, Hohmann, H-O-H-M-A-N Hohmann.com. And then a second one, Leo Hohmann.substack.com. And I’ll give that again. Our theme today is this discernment needed.
Read the lines and read between the lines. With that, obviously if you’re just tuning in, if you had not heard the Pope Francis actually passed away this morning that will guide and direct all kinds of activity and news is going to be caught up on that event if you just turned in or tuned in. Rather go back and listen to this first segment again, tried to put some things into context and Leo gave his perspective and I gave some of mine on that issue, but I’ve been, in case we’re going to move on, what are other areas that require great discernment? Well, frankly, everything in this age, but while the world now shifts, its attention to the selection of a new pope. That particular event only comes on top of other developing events, potential war in the Middle East, as we know in the news every day ongoing war in Ukraine with Russia, a new war being projected by some European nations and NATO against Russia as they are ramping up the trade and cyber war between the United States and China is in process.
It’s a big deal that’s real. But here in the United States, Donald Trump has publicly stated many times how he will bring peace in Ukraine and the Middle East, and that was welcomed by everybody, but obviously we’re well into it and we’re not very close to peace either one peace remains elusive at best. These areas, I think, are all examples of why it is necessary to, of course read the lines or what is stated and then restated. But then there comes the part where discernment is required to actually read between the lines and say, but what is really happening? So Leo, on April 14th, you wrote an excellent article. This was the title given it Trump Vance Billionaire Backer. Peter Thiel sells smart AI war fighting system to NATO while talking up US Trade War with China. Now, one of the between the lines observations I have, Leo is linked to the very close connection of numerous billionaire economic kings. I’m going to call them that way because scripture does Psalms too. Economic leaders are called kings, that economic kings and our president. From a political perspective, we know that money speaks and numerous billionaires know that too. So what’s the gist of this article about Peter Thiel, smart AI and the pursuit of war at how this counters, at least to some degree, the president’s stated goal of peace?
Leo Hohmann:
Yeah, we’re undergoing a complete realignment of the global system and the alliances and the trading relationships. As you know, Sam, as we speak, it’s all kind of in flux and nobody knows completely how it’s going to shake out, but it does seem like President Trump is trying to push this realignment in a way that decreases our reliance on communist China for a lot of the critical resources that we need in today’s modern economy, rare earth minerals and such that are used in a lot of the military weapons and electronics and everything. So how is he going to go about doing that? He’s trying to bring peace between Russia and Ukraine because those two countries, this is from a real politics sort of perspective I’m going to give you here. Don’t believe a lot of what you hear and from President Trump and others about, they’re just all heartbroken about how many men are dying in the war and blah, blah.
I don’t believe any of that. That’s just for the public record and the news outlets to be quoted from. But what’s really going on here is a war over resources and rare earth minerals, a lot of which happened to be located in Ukraine and Russia. And so we see President Trump trying to get Zelensky Ukrainian president to sign a minerals deal. And that’s supposed to happen apparently as early as Thursday of this week, although Zelensky keeps us saying he’ll do it and then backing out. So we don’t know until we actually have his signature on paper. But Trump is also trying to get a similar deal with Russia as he ends this war. He wants to start doing business with Russia and buying some of their rare earth minerals as well. And this would sort of in Trump’s strategy, I think pull Russia away from China. If Russia can make a lot of money revenue by selling its resources to America, maybe it won’t be so tight with China and maybe at some point the military relationship will also not be as close as it has been because in the newly realigned world, the worst thing for America’s interest is for Russia and China to be aligned economically and militarily. Trump is trying to break up that partnership. We’ll see if he can succeed,
Sam Rohrer:
Okay? And there’s nothing wrong actually. Those are good goals and they are legitimate nonetheless. There are other things that have to happen and money’s involved in all of it because at the end of the day, things seem to be, greatness is attached to economics. Economics tends to run the political and the business leaders of the world tend to tell the politicians what to do because that’s where they get their money and that’s just the way it is. So let’s go further into this. Peter Thiel is not the only billionaire. Now he has a direct connection to smart ai and you didn’t explain that a little bit, but just take one minute and explain what is smart AI and what’s the significance of him selling that to NATO?
Leo Hohmann:
Yeah, this is all emanating from a company called Palantir, and this is a company founded by Peter Thiel for a while. Its biggest customer was the CIA and the US Department of Defense. Now it’s branching out, it’s been branching out globally for a while now. And just last week, Palantir announced a new sales agreement with NATO where it is selling its Maven Smart System to NATO, which is a military command system that relies on artificial intelligence to help make decisions in fighting wars on the battlefield. And so there’s a lot of different scenarios out there. It could be that possible scenarios. It could be that because President Trump seems to be distancing himself from the NATO countries and warning them that they could be left on their own at some point if they don’t ante up more of the financial burden of the military alliance.
But it’s also and so that they would need this AI system if they’re going to be left on their own to contend with Russia, which as we know, the NATO countries seem very eager to go to war with Russia outside of Trump who’s not very eager about that prospect. So if Trump follows through with his rhetoric and distances America from NATO, he knows that NATO could be the NATO, Western European members could be left on their own in a year or two from now. And so his friend Peter Thiel is providing them with this new AI software system that will increase their formidability against the Russian army, which is a very steep task, a tall task. And right now, if it were to happen, there’s no way that the Western Europeans could win a war with Russia without direct US military help and intervention. I’m talking boots on the ground.
So knowing that he’s never going to send boots on the ground American soldiers to die in a war with Russia, perhaps this is an effort to compensate somewhat for that with this new high tech system that Palantir and Peter Thiel are selling to NATO. It’s also possible that maybe Trump does not plan on leaving NATO, and he knows that at some point he’s going to have to go back on his word and actually engage Russia with US troops, in which case he would also want NATO to have this sophisticated system. So there’s a number of different scenarios. I don’t know which one’s going to play out. It certainly bears watching,
Sam Rohrer:
But a big billionaire wants to make more money and he makes his money off of war. So you’ve got that piece. Only about a minute left. There are a few other billionaires though we’ve talked about as well, that are in very close in advancing things like AI that are in fact not in the best interest of the American people on many levels, although there’s a reason why it can. A couple names you can throw in the pot there.
Leo Hohmann:
Well, yeah, in his first full day in office back in January 21st, President Trump sat down and held a press conference in the White House Oval Office. I believe and present with him were Larry Ellison, founder and chairman of Oracle Software Systems, big champion of AI, and Sam Altman, CEO of chat, GPT, and the head of a major Russian bank and tech operative, whose name I can’t pronounce,
Sam Rohrer:
Japanese, I think it was
Leo Hohmann:
Japan,
A Japanese banker. So you had the Japanese banker tech guru with these two American tech bros and Trump talking about the need to build out the AI infrastructure in America, and they want to build huge data centers in Texas and other states that will be used for the development enhancement of AI, artificial intelligence. This involves collecting data and storing data, and these data centers will be needed to do all of that. They’re huge users of electric power and water to cool the servers. It’s a very major undertaking, but as we know, president Trump in his first term presided over the installation of 5G, and so he is a big, big proponent of high tech.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and hold that, ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. We’ll come back, we’ll complete that thought a little bit and then move into another area here where discernment is needed. Well, before we get back into the next section and move into other areas of policy changes and directions that require great discernment. Leo, I just wanted to go back just briefly on the last discussion where you mentioned a few of the guys. It was that Japanese banker, there was the fellow from Oracle, Sam Altman from Chat GPT, that did meet at the White House the day after the inauguration. And of course we talked about it here in the program, but that’s where the commitment to $500 billion was put into place, a very clear connection because a priority first order of business after the inauguration and the announcement of billions of dollars worth of investments coming theoretically or from the taxpayer for the purpose of building these AI databases.
To me though, what is interesting, and this is what has to be read between the lines, is that these billionaires, which are billionaires because of their technological involvement are involved in a technology where that they said themselves what it would be used for, the linking of all cameras and cars and police officers and dash cams of that type of thing. The linking of healthcare records. And it was Altman that I think was, or no, it was fellow Larry from Oracle that said that we can replace, or the shortage of doctors we now have can be replaced with an AI doctor that would do a much better job, all run through this AI database. So there is big money to be made, and with AI here, you can actually replace a lot of people, you can replace a lot of employees. So there’s money to be made, which is why they’re there. But it does go counter to the whole idea of what most people are thinking that this is for. So that’s what I put out there. Leo, any other thoughts on that before we move into another area?
Leo Hohmann:
Yes, good point, Sam. It was also Larry Ellison of Oracle, who’s on the record from I believe around September of last year in an interview where he said point blank that AI will also be used in law enforcement to surveil Americans and other people around the world 24 7. And that with cameras connected to the internet all over, we would all be on our best behavior. So yeah, he is for a 24 7 global surveillance state. He’s come right out and said that, and this is the man that President Trump and the White House are working with to install these big time data centers around the country. They’re going up in Texas, they’re going up in Louisiana, they’re going up in Georgia all over really? And it’s going to be shocking to people how they end up being used with the expansion of ai. I would be surprised if Trump is going to be the one to build the system, but it may be a future Democrat president who actually weaponizes it against the American people,
Sam Rohrer:
And I think that’s significant. Right here in Pennsylvania, we have three mile Island up by Harrisburg where the capitol is, and a lot of people know that it’s been offline for a long time. That’s going to be coming back online this year. Who purchased it to bring it back online? Bill Gates, what’s it going to be used for? Well, they need these power plants to power AI generation centers, data centers that big. So ladies and gentlemen, that’s why I’m saying read what is stated, read the line, but then you have to go and read between the lines and looking at those that are involved. Okay, let’s move on to another area. April 9th, Leo, you wrote this article and this was the title of it, government and Medical Establishment continue to poison our Children with Mercury and then lie about it to parents. Then your subtitle was Marisol, an ingredient in several childhood vaccines is linked to Autism and other developmental disorders. Last week I did a program on vaccines with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. Ladies and gentlemen, if you didn’t catch that, you ought to catch that program. It’s been very hopeful to many people. We focused on the medical side then Leo, you have built off of that, but then I think you went more into policy and just the fact that something like this is still happening, but share the thrust of this article and point people to where you were trying to take them. So what?
Leo Hohmann:
Yeah, this chemical Sam marisol is a byproduct or in some way related to mercury. Okay. And we’ve heard for years that most of the vaccines contain mercury. Well, the government tried to discount and debunk that and as part of their propaganda campaign, they even came out at one point and said, you know what? We don’t think that this ingredient in the vaccines, the Marisol actually harms children in the way that a lot of the so-called conspiracy theorists have been saying, but just out of an abundance of caution, just in case it is harming our children, we’re going to remove it from the vaccines. They said, and it hasn’t been in there, they now say since 2001 in the vaccines being given to our children. Well, guess what? Independent journalist, Cheryl Atkinson, who used to be a mainstream journalist and defected when she found out that she couldn’t tell the truth about not only vaccines and CO but other issues, she came out with investigation recently where she proved that all of those claims are false. That not only is the Marisol a definite harm to children, but it’s still in the vaccines and the government has been lying to us all this time. She actually went in and got the list of ingredients from the vaccines and she showed all of the lies posted on the labels and in the verified lies by what’s actually in the vaccines and what the government is lying and telling us about it. So yeah, this was a big story that the mainstream media predictably totally ignored.
Sam Rohrer:
So ladies and gentlemen, discernment needed, read the lines, read what is stated. We have to read between the lines. Alright, second article, April 15th, this last week you wrote this somewhat connected but not quite the same title of it is this parents accused of kidnapping their own children from state custody after refusing vaccines and Texas, the state cooperates with their extradition back to deep blue state of Massachusetts. Now, we commented on this just briefly, ladies and gentlemen, last Wednesday as well, but Leo, you went into depth on it. Talk about this and why this is so significant.
Leo Hohmann:
Yeah, because it all cuts back to the broader issue of parental authority. Parental authority is under attack in this country right now like never before Sam. And so when you’ve got a deep red state like Texas cooperating with a deep blue state like Massachusetts to extradite a couple of parents because they refuse to get their children vaccinated in Massachusetts and then they fled to Texas and they get extradited back to Massachusetts for this supposed crime when it’s not a crime. Massachusetts even has in their law a place for religious exemptions, which is what this family claimed, that they were not going to get their children vaccinated because they had a quote sincerely held religious conviction according to the law that they should not be getting their children vaccinated for various reasons. Vaccines contain a lot of ingredients, the Marisol just being one of them that we already discussed that are harmful to children.
There’s also the ethical and moral issue of aborted fetal tissue being used in vaccines in the testing stage, if not in the actual ingredients. So there’s very many reasons why a Christian couple would not want to get their children vaccinated for religious reasons, and that’s what they were claiming. And that a pediatrician, their own pediatrician turned them in for neglect when he found out that these parents would not allow him to vaccinate their children, the only neglect was that they neglected to get their children vaccinated. These children, I believe they had five, the youngest of which was nine months old, and they were all well cared for. They were not in any way suffering from neglect or abuse, and yet this pediatrician tried to claim that and reporting them to family and children’s services. And from there that got the ball rolling with law enforcement. We had actually state, local and federal law enforcement officials all cooperating to hunt down this family and turn the parents over to law enforcement authority in Massachusetts.
Sam Rohrer:
Ladies and gentlemen, what’s the point of this? The point of this is to say we as God-fearing people, one of the reasons we must earnestly pray for all of those who are in authority, why that we can lead a quiet and peaceable life. I guarantee you this young couple with these five children, homeschool family are not right now living a very quiet and peaceable life. The fact that states a conservative and a liberal state can in these days cooperate against the matter of parental authority when in fact they all know it has nothing to do with the welfare of the children. It has everything to do with who is in charge, who’s the authority government as God? Most of them think they are. I mean that’s part of our problem. Or the parents who God has given the authority to raise the children. There is no evidence, according to all the records, that there was any issue here at all.
It was just none. They went in for a normal checkup and the nine month old baby didn’t have the shots yet. Well, nobody really wants to give a nine month old baby any kind of shots anyway. And that was the issue. Neglect. And then the legal process starts all the point being read what is stated must read between the lines because of many reasons we come back, I’m going to conclude by talking with Leo about, alright, now, where in the midst of all this can we get hope and confidence and build our discernment of which we need much? Well, as we go into our final segment now and try to bring some concluding thoughts to this area entitled today, discernment Needed. Read the lines, read what is stated, but then read between the lines. That’s the only best way I could think of to phrase the fact that we’ve been trying to illustrate that a little bit in today’s program.
My special guest, Leo Hohmann, just a few words here, he is an independent investigative journalist. Again, if you’ve been with us before, you know that, but it’s a good thing to be reminded. And because of independence, he does not work for a big entity, which as we know tries to tell people what to rate. And that’s been the problem over the last many years. So he’s independent. And so he needs the help of those either subscribing to what he writes, that’s an important thing or whatever. And you can do that and you can go to one of two sites, not the same thing is on both. Some are duplicated but not all. But leo Hohmann.com is one. The other Leo Hohmann.substack.com is the second link to which you can go to find a complete listing of editorials, which are always breaking, always new. And I’m going to say always relevant.
It’s one of the places that I go to get a concept. And for disclosure purposes, I do pass things back and forth to Leo and he does to me as when you find somebody who’s reliable, it helps, it helps me and hopefully what I share with him sometimes helps him. But any regard, I just pass that along I think would be of help to you. Now again, all of these programs you can get on our website archive form, stand in the gap radio.com or on our app, stand in the Gap and you can go back and find, for instance, the program that I referred to earlier that I did with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, leading vaccine expert all across the country. She’s been demonized by the guys who don’t tell the truth, but I had her on because I’ve gotten to know her and she is reliable.
So I want to help those who tell the truth and she’s very good and that would be a good program. If you are at all interested in knowing more about the whole concept of vaccines, do they even do any good? What’s involved in them, that kind of thing. I’m just going to leave it there, Leo, let’s go into this last segment. I want to ask you this. I started this program today by referring to Easter. We don’t want to forget what we just celebrated and just move on, which life is going to move us on. But Easter, the power of Christ, birth and life, death, burial, resurrection, ascension, and his promise, soon return, that is a great hope and that is really for the true believer, the true Christians hope. That is where our hope and confidence lies. And therefore, ladies and gentlemen, it should be our anchor in times of increasing uncertainty of which we certainly know those the kind of days we are in.
But we’re also warned not to be deceived. Jesus said that because that’s a part of this. So what’s part of the alternative? Well, we pray for wisdom, James, that of any of you of lack wisdom, let him pray. God will give that to us. Wisdom. I hope you pray for wisdom every day. And in part connected with wisdom is discernment. Being able to just get that sense of, am I hearing the truth? Am I seeing what is right? Anyways, all that being said, Leo, just out of curiosity, because you write and have it written on so many things like we do in the program here, always considering so much and we hear truth and untruth and we compare and all that kind of thing. What do you personally do? What’s your procedure when you see events continually unfolding? So as not to be tricked and to do as we’ve discussed today, use discernment to read what is stated and then read between the lines.
Leo Hohmann:
Yeah, great question, Sam. Two general rules, question everything and consider the source question everything and consider the source. A lot of people don’t have a good handle on considering the source. They don’t seem to know one source from another, and therein is a big problem. That’s why a lot of people, just as an example, just one example, went ahead and got the covid shots when they came out because everyone was saying it was a good thing, right? Everyone in the establishment, all of the establishment media, all of the establishment folks in government both elected and appointed in the health directors from the local all the way up to the national level. But why did I know immediately and even before they came out that when they came out it would be a very, very bad option to take them up on? How did I know that?
Because Bill Gates was the one invested in these vaccines and one of the biggest pushers. That’s what I mean by considering the source. If people knew that anything about Bill Gates, they would’ve known that any medical treatment pushed by and backed and endorsed by him would be the last thing you would ever, ever want to take into your body. Because he is one of the world’s biggest proponents of depopulation. He’s come right out and said that we need to depopulate the world in order to combat climate change. Two of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people and the global population. The world is not overpopulated and any change in the climate is not being affected in any significant way by human activity. Climate changes, everyone knows it over the years, but only God is in control. And if anything, if it is being influenced by human beings, it’s the globalists themselves that are doing it through geoengineering and other things. We don’t have time to talk about right now on this show. So yeah, consider the source and question everything.
Sam Rohrer:
Alright, I think that is excellent. That is interesting. Just when you hearken the back, what you did there, you used the Covid as an example. Okay, so that’s appropriate. It’s a big issue. You went back to something that you knew that Bill Gates had stated, and because he was involved and because there’s money involved and because he stated the involvement, you connected the dots, read between the lines. Now interesting on that same issue, do you know what made me speak out publicly and say this is a bad deal? From the beginning all the way back before the shots were mentioned, it was because when the emergency was declared from my legislative background, I said, you know what? This is a problem. There is no provision for a national emergency where you shut down everything. I said, from a legal perspective, we have just altered the Constitution, therefore, nothing good can come out of that, which is you can’t break the law in order to come up with something that you think is good. That’s how I came first at it, Leo. So it’s very interesting, but again, as you say, you consider the source, you remember things that have happened and as you say, give those two again, is there two short ones? But give ’em again.
Leo Hohmann:
Yeah, consider the source that your information is coming from, and that would include the biggest red flag is when the entire mainstream corporate media, the establishment media is singing from the same song sheet, meaning there’s no disagreement. They’re all reporting a story from the exact same angle. In this case, COVID shots are good for you. And the second thing is question everything, even if it’s coming from a trusted source. Okay, do your own homework. I don’t want people to take everything I say or write as gospel. There you go. See what you can find out to confirm it on your own. And the biggest source of confirmation should be the word of God.
Sam Rohrer:
There you go. And that’s where I wanted to go, ladies and gentlemen. Why do we say the authority of scripture all the time? Ultimately, that is the standard. So these things we just talked about, they’re necessary parts, but always go back to the word of God. The Bible speaks to all issues of life. That part never changes. Thanks for being with us today, Leo Hohmann. Thanks for the job that you do and thanks for being with me here today. Ladies and gentlemen. See you back here tomorrow. And then the balance of this week, a full week, all week.
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