Geoengineering and Chemtrails: The Ugly Truth
April 28, 2025
Host: Hon. Sam Rohrer
Guest: Dr. Lee Vliet
Note: This transcript is taken from a Stand in the Gap Today program aired on 4/28/25. To listen to the podcast, click HERE.
Disclaimer: While reasonable efforts have been made to provide an accurate transcription, the following is a representation of a mechanical transcription and as such, may not be a word for word transcript. Please listen to the audio version for any questions concerning the following dialogue.
Sam Rohrer:
Hello and welcome to this Monday edition of Stand In the Gap Today and here it is already. We’re entering the very last week of April and we’ll move right into the first week of May. It’s amazing. Two weeks ago I announced on this program that I would begin a deeper focus on what I’m terming selected, critical aspects of health impact that are real and present but filled with controversy. Most anything I found of real significance has controversy around it because you’re truth and some believe truth and some don’t. But the program title on that day, that was April 15th, so it was just a couple of weeks ago on that program, was this vaccines some good, all bad, what you need to know in that program, I engaged this particular topic with Dr. Sherry Tenpenny from New Cleveland, Ohio. On Wednesday of this week, Dr. Gordon Donaldson frontline doctor and my own family physician will join me again for an update from the frontline as we’re terming it as to what is literally being experienced by frontline docs across the country in regard to healthcare and more.
You’ve really enjoyed that program in the past and so I’m just giving you a heads up. That’ll be Wednesday of this week with him. Now today I’m glad to welcome back to this program Dr. Lee Vliet. She’s the president and the CEO of Truth for Health Foundation and also creator of the Medicine and Ministry program. Now, Dr. Vliet was with me last, Sharon was talking about, it seems hard to believe it’s this long ago, but July 17th, 2024 of last year and that program, the theme was this cell phone or EMF usage and your health, the medical truth. That was one of these type of programs we’re dealing with as today’s focus is just as critical, but it’s not even this theme now officially admitted and confirmed is that governments and controlled media have attempted to suppress for decades as conspiratorial and as we saw during the covid days actually to threaten, to punish, to dec credential, to silence and to relegate to the fringes as wackos.
Anybody who talked about what we’re talking about today and what is this? Well, in general terms, it is referred to as geoengineering or defined more specifically climate mitigation where elites through government seek to frankly play God with the weather. The methodology for this climate mitigation or climate control effort is conducted primarily and most noticeably, but I’m going to say not limited to exclusively attempts to fill the atmosphere with, in technical terms, light scattering particulates sprayed from the backs of jets, jet aircraft, and these particulates include heavy metals, some in government patents granted for these efforts including toxic aluminum and more. This methodology for doing this is visibly identifiable around the globe, not just here in the United States, and we see it in the sky as sometimes crisscrossing and expanding trails of clouds that you think come out the back of jets, but it’s not what you normally think of. They’re referred to as chem trails or chemical trails. Now legislation was just passed by the Florida Senate and soon to head to Governor DeSantis to prohibit this effort to geo engineer the weather. It’s being discussed in various other states as well. Now today with Dr. Lee, we’re going to engage this critical area, the title I’ve chosen to frame our conversation as this geoengineering and chemtrails the ugly truth. And with that, welcome back Dr. Lee. Glad to have you back.
Lee Vliet:
Thanks so much Pastor Sam. It’s great to be with you
Sam Rohrer:
Dr. Lee. You’ve done a lot on this. There’s a lot to cover. We can’t get it all in, but let’s go here first. For how long, for instance, have you as a medical doctor been aware of this effort at, I’m calling it weather mitigation and the use of what is commonly referred to as chemicals jet springing chemicals into the atmosphere?
Lee Vliet:
I would say for the last 15 to 20 years I’ve been trying to find out more information about it. It’s been difficult, but I could tell there was something going on, but very difficult to find out specifics until more recently when we’ve had in the, I would say in the last 10 years when we’ve had more access to internet searches that we could look up information on some of these programs. Actually, pastor Sam, the modification of weather using chemicals being sprayed from airplanes began during World War ii.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, now I’m going to interject, hold that. That’s a good setup because we’re going to cover that in the next segment. Ladies and gentlemen, there is a history and she already went there. We’re going to go back and I want you to build that out there. Just hold that for a second. I’d like you at this point as we’re laying the foundation, because what you’re saying was you’ve known about it for years. I have seen it too. I have not been able to find information. As you’ve talked about, you went back to World War ii. That’s what I found. You’re going to give the details next segment, but here I’d like you to do this, establish here some health connections because that’s your expertise medical doctor. We’re talking about this, but what aspects of health are either being impacted by what we’re going to be talking about more fully or potentially impacted by this spraying of our atmosphere, which is clearly being done and now it’s really confirmed.
Lee Vliet:
Well, when you look at the big picture of the damage from these, first of all, let’s name some of the common ones. Aluminum, which everyone should by now realize is toxic and is associated with Alzheimer’s and other adverse health effects. But barium, strontium, manganese, polymer fibers, they use silver iodide for cloud seeding. Some of the newest research from geoengineering watch.org, which is an incredible organization, people really need to check their website. They are the go-to reputable resource for information on all of this. Bain Wigginton just did a recent program with some of their research and testing has shown that graphene is being added to the chemicals as an ice nucleation element, creating weather extremes from extreme cold to extreme heat and causing these extreme variations in weather even within the same day. It’s a weather whiplash effect and that has all kinds of implications which are beyond the scope of
Sam Rohrer:
Today’s
Lee Vliet:
Show, but I want to mention the chemicals so people can start looking up some of those names.
Sam Rohrer:
Even that even that that I’m going to ask you about another program, but you talk individual health, but is this not also because it’s in the air coming down in rain, it’s affecting the ground, it’s affecting the crops that come out of the ground as well.
Lee Vliet:
I was going to say it’s our individual health, which includes cognitive effects, respiratory effects, fertility, and many other aspects of our individual health, but it’s altering the soil so that for example,
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, we’re out of time. Just hold it. We’ll have to come back. Ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. We’ll be back in just a couple of moments in next segment. We’re going to build this out. We’re going to start with the history and the purpose for what is taking place. Well, if you’re just joining us today, welcome aboard. Thanks for being with us. We’re tackling a subject today of great significance, of great controversy, perhaps less now than in the past because so much is now coming to official and confirmed light and you stay with us. You’ll pick up some of this, but you ever look up in the sky, clear blue sky, and then you find lines that look like planes have gone through and left a little line behind them. And then lo and behold, before you know it, it’s not clouds, but everything’s gone, all hazy all of a sudden.
And you wondered what about all those things. Well, they’re called chemtrails. That’s the name for it, but we’ve already identified it’s geoengineering among other things, and that’s our title today, Geo-Engineering and the Chemtrails, the Ugly Truth. And my special guest is Dr. Leelee been with us many times here before, but she’s the president and the CEO of Truth for Health Foundation and has a website@truthforhealth.org. Now, if you didn’t catch it already, you need to go back and listen to the program. We’ve already given some important introductory information in this segment. We’re going to move into the history and so forth because according to information generally available, this aerial sprang of the atmosphere has been identified well literally for decades and not just here in United States, but globally. And while from the testimony of certain whistleblowers and others, there appears to have been, some have used the word gag order placed on those entities like national weather folks who are looking at the sky all the time that they can’t talk about it.
There have been threats of employment termination for pilots of aircraft, perhaps involved and government employees and such agencies as, for instance, the FDA who possessed the responsibility to oversee the safety of air and water and other natural resources and health impacts. But aggressive efforts are underway as we speak in the United Kingdom who just last week on April 23rd, according to an article in the Daily Mail, and here’s the title, so I’m going to give it, but it gives you the idea of this is active and it’s kind of coming out of the woodworks even more. Here’s the title, experiments to Dim the Sun in Bid to Curb Global Warming will be approved by the UK government within weeks. Then the article goes on and talk about it. If I cite that, just to let you know, it is a headline news issue we’re discussing. So Dr. Lee, let’s go now to the history of attempts to alter the weather and the move to spraying the atmosphere with chemicals. Here’s my first part. Don’t go into the why, but who and when. What can you tell us?
Lee Vliet:
Well, it began after World War ii, but the CIA documents that were disclosed in the JSK assassination files released just recently by President Trump show an unexpected benefit of the release of those files is documents that prove the CIA was involved in weather warfare and chemical spraying in our skies in the 1950s, and this was passed by the UN in 1978, weather modification treaties, which allowed this massive spraying of the skies in the globalist agenda to block the sun controlled population by controlling food production. And weather warfare has been practiced by governments around the world, including the US government since the 1950s. And in 1978, the UN passed the weather modification treaty. Then under the Obama administration, Obama gave the UN access to our skies and slapped a gag order on Noah. Noah knows, and the National Oceanic and Aeronautics administration knows who’s involved in all of this chem trails and weather engineering.
But Obama’s team slapped a gag order on them to keep quiet about it. And the thing that people don’t realize is that this is still going on. President Trump and Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy, have declared a war against the chem trail spraying because they recognize that it’s damaging all life on the planet from the birds to the bees, to insects to soil, plant yields, crop yields are down. Aluminum toxicity in the soil is causing problems with heirloom seeds not growing, but only GMO seeds designed to grow in aluminum toxic soils. It’s really extraordinarily frightening and it’s affecting many aspects of human health.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, so you’re going to build that out in the next segment because ladies and gentlemen, I know what’s going through your head already. Alright, well, Dr. Lee already mentioned some harms because if it’s in the air, we’re breathing it. If it’s in the rain and it goes into the ground, if it’s in the ground, the plants absorb it and out of that then we eat it. There’s alright, you get the connection. So she’ll talk about more of those harms brought into the next segment. So the who and the when after World War ICIA, there’s a military weather weaponization type of a thing that’s going on. There’s the dimming of the sun. So we know that the climate change people are involved. That’s what the UK is trying to do. But let’s move to this why that’s always the what, why? What was the original justification? Was it a military purpose, was it something else? And perhaps has that changed to what’s happening now? If so, how?
Lee Vliet:
Well, there was a major motivation under President Lyndon Bain Johnson when he stated after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, who had been trying to stop some of this by the way. But LBJ is in a graduation speech said, and I’ve listened to the video, he who controls the weather controls the world, whether warfare was begun with LBJ escalating it from what the CIA had begun in the fifties and it was initially a military operation to control populations. But since Bill Gates and others have developed the a hundred year depopulation plan, which I’ve written extensively about and researched extensively, the a hundred year depopulation plan, elites have decided in an attack on God’s gift of life that there are too many people on the planet and therefore they should decide how many people should be here. And they set about all of these efforts to control the population, controlling the food, controlling water, toxic chemicals in the air toxic vaccines.
And anyone who has been paying attention for the last 30 years can hear Bill Gates on TED Talks talking about reducing the world’s population. The goal is to have 500 million people because they decided that that was what the planet could support. They as vote know nothing. And the thing that is very frustrating is that Congress mandated funding with our tax dollars of these geoengineering projects years ago without a single study on the effect of human health or a single vote passed by any of the people they represent. It’s only through those uncovering the spending in some of these federal agencies that have been doing this in secret that we now know where our money’s been going on grants to support the toxic spraying. So it has had very nefarious goals from the beginning, either warfare or control of population, and it’s an assault on God’s gift of life. It is transhumanism on steroids. It’s not climate mitigation at all. It’s weather warfare, climate control, and people control and you have to call it what it is and stop using the nice words the left wants us to use to hide what they’re really doing.
Sam Rohrer:
There you go. I think Dr. Lee, what you just said there is really clear, and I’m glad that you stated that because in my definition that I kind of gave in the first segment was that in effect it is elite trying to play God with the weather. And your statement about Lyndon Johnson before who controls the weather, controls the world and then this broader effort because of the humanist, I’m going to say the humanist antichrist attitude that exists and for a long time that has no respect of life and the goal has been to reduce life and the number of people there have been multiple strategies. I’ll put it together. I mean abortion is one yes, but it’s not the only one. So you spray the air and you make people sick or you come up with shots to give them that harm them. There are multiple strategies, but it all fits within this context of a certain group of people wanting to play God in all aspects of life. That’s my quick summarization. You agree with that?
Lee Vliet:
Well, right. It’s multi-pronged. The mRNA vaccines designed to modify the human DNA was an example of the transhumanism attack on God’s design. Its Satan’s effort to redesign God’s design of life, which impairs fertility and impairs our health and leads to cancers and leads to deaths and all of the things we’ve been seeing exploding on us since the Covid shots were rolled out in 2021. But it’s more than that. It’s using soy as an endocrine disruptor that
Sam Rohrer:
Permeates, okay, I just have to because of break, I got to break in, ladies and gentlemen, see the connection and it is in fact a connection because it’s a worldview. That’s where we’re talking about at the end of the day, it’s a worldview difference. What we’re talking about is totally different than a biblical worldview, not even close. When we come back, we’re going to go further into identifying the impacts and if there are any benefits, we’ll identify them too. Okay, Dr. Lee, this has been great information that you’ve been sharing has been very, very helpful. Let’s move as we progress through this. We’ve identified this matter of playing God with the weather. That’s how we just came down playing God with the weather, which has been done through governments all the way back to World War I. CIA has been involved in it, other countries been involved in it.
It’s gone to the point of the United Nations. It’s being pushed right now aggressively by the United Kingdom with their goal and the headlines is to reduce the impact of the sun. It’s all weather modification, they say. Anyways, there’s a whole range of things, but you went to, the idea is that behind all of these things and of which there are many different strategies, different efforts, it is to either sicken the population to lower the population. And many, many, many have stated this clearly, these antichrist individuals for a long time, they have no respect for life when it’s young in the womb out of the womb when it’s old and when it’s living and their goal is to get the world down to 500 million. That is a very anti-God consideration, but that’s what they are out there. We’re not making it up. And so that being the case, as you have established that it’s happening now, some states like Florida and Tennessee and some others are working on in their state legislatures to prohibit it from happening because it’s come to that point.
Okay, now let’s move now to this. You identified that some of the ingredients that are a part of these mRNa, chemical spraying that comes from the back of jets, you can see it in the sky. It’s all over. Anybody can go and just Google and find the pictures and most have seen it. It’s been impossible not to see it. But let’s go to here, identify against some of the ingredients that is known either by observation, by testing, and or by patents because there are actual patents on these things as well that’s available. What are some of those items and then what are some of the health related impacts that perhaps maybe you have even seen as you’ve treated people on individual health?
Lee Vliet:
Well, some of the main chemicals that have been used are and are being used are aluminum, barium, strontium, manganese, graphene, polymer fibers. And the silver iodide has been used as cloud seeding ostensibly to increase rain. There are likely other chemicals that they’re using that we don’t yet know about. And in fact, I would encourage people to look at two different resources. First of all, there’s an old older Discovery channel documentary from 2007 that you can go back and watch where they explain that chem trails are used for weather manipulation. So it was so well known that Discovery Channel had a documentary on it and yet anyone who talked about it in recent years has been labeled a conspiracy theorist and crazy. Well, it’s not crazy when you look at the fact that I can sit here in southern Arizona with blue skies, and this has been going on extensively since the winter, just January, 2024.
It has escalated and the Tic-Tac toe boards created in the sky with these chemtrails leads to severe respiratory problems. I’ve experienced it myself. I don’t normally have respiratory problems or allergies or coughing or sneezing or congestion. And patients of mine thought we can have days where they’ll be crisscrossing the skies with chemtrails and patients coming in with difficulty breathing with coughing that they can’t stop and feeling short of breath when they’re not sick with a different type of illness. They don’t have a respiratory illness like a viral syndrome. They’ve just been exposed to all this garbage in the sky. And you can see the haze. It’s affecting the plants. We don’t have the bees in Southern Arizona that we used to have. There used to be lots of beekeepers making local honey. They don’t have the bees. The bees are being killed by these toxic chemicals.
And if we lose our pollinators, then we lose our source of food supply right now and go look up the former FBI chief Ted Gunderson. He has lots of interviews that he’s done warning about the chemtrails is a genocide and it’s murder by the United Nations. Those are his quotes. People need to be aware of this because right now, particularly with the Trump administration and Secretary Kennedy making an effort to expose the trails, people need to know that our voice matters. We need to stand to protect God’s gift of life, which includes the Sun and that sun is a gift of God, the SON. And we need to stand for that. It’s a biblical principle that we need to take care of the body as our temple of the Holy Spirit through which we serve God in this world and our bodies are being assaulted from the skies, from the foods that are grown in soils like this. And we need to speak up. There are 24 states that have initiated legislation to stop the chem trails, to ban it completely. We are God’s people that need to stand and speak out in our local legislators. Now, I can list the 24 states very quickly if you’d like, so that people in those states can get busy and those in other states can make an effort to get it going in your state.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay? If you have that list, just to read it very quickly, and I would assume it’s on your website@truthforhealth.org too, also,
Lee Vliet:
We will put it up. It changes Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming so far.
Sam Rohrer:
And that really is a very, very good thing. So ladies and gentlemen, again, get the program again. If you heard your state, then you have an opportunity to do something and to contact. If you didn’t, then you can go there. But Dr. Lee will put that up on the website and it’ll be in this transcript. If you go back and pick up the program again on Stand in the Gap app or stand in the gap radio.com, this will be as a part of the transcript. Let’s go here and pick it up a little bit more. Some of what you said, you’ve actually seen people manifest or evidence coughing and other respiratory type issues after it’s been evident that there’s been spraying and it’s not because they have a respiratory virus, whatever. So that is one. So an individual is impacted that way, but it’s going into the soil. It’s going into water, I am assuming so I’m asking about it. And therefore if it’s in the soil, it’s got to be pulled up into vegetables and fruit. Is it making itself all the way through? And you did reference about it affecting heirloom seeds but not affecting GMO oriented seeds. Build that out a little bit.
Lee Vliet:
Well, what we hear from farmers is that the soil is increasing in concentration of aluminum soil testing has confirmed that farmers have tested and confirmed that the aluminum concentration in the soil is much higher than ever before, and that affects the ability of traditional seeds, heirloom seeds growing. And farmers are saying that only the GMO seeds are growing. So it ties in with the broader purpose of genetic modification of our food supply. And people who are trying to avoid GMO foods are having a hard time doing that. For example, more than 90% of the corn in the United States is GMO corn. You can hardly find non GMO corn and corn products are in practically all of our processed foods in one way or another.
And it’s not just the respiratory problems from the chem trails, it’s cognitive problems, it’s foggy brain, it’s memory problems, it’s concentration problems, it’s headaches and chest tightness, for example. It affects our cardiovascular system, not just the respiratory system, and it affects our immune system. People are made sick by what is being sprayed in the sky, which then comes down as rain. And there are people who have tested rainwater to show toxic chemicals in rainwater. And you’ve read about this toxic fog that this mystery fog that people were seeing suddenly appearing this year. And there have been lab tests done on what’s in that that are resulting in studies coming out that are quite alarming. And a lot of this is beyond the scope of this one show, but geoengineering watch.org has lots of details and has a documentary that’s outstanding called the Dimming, and it shows the effects of all of this.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, hold that right there. I’m going to want you to give that site again, Dr. Lee, ladies and gentlemen, stay with us. Next segment. We will close up the program but try to move more to the concept here, providing a response. We’ve given a number of things I’m going to repeat some of these sites to go to and some things that can be done. Alright, we’re going to go into our final segment here now. And again, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening today. If you happen to have joined partway through the program, and we all know how radio goes, where some of you I know are at home right now, some of you I know as you listening to the program or on your way to pick up your children from school. And I know that because you’ve told us that. So wherever you may be, you may not have heard the entire program.
And I would encourage you to go back and listen to this one again and another one back on the 15th of this month, we did on vaccines, but things that are issues that are very, very real. Things that are impacting our health, things that are controversial, but things for which we need to know be informed. So anyways, I do that now, this one here today, geoengineering and chem trails, the Ugly Truth, that’s the title I’ve given to it because in reality, geo-engineering, weather modification goes much further beyond that. It’s been done for a long time. It’s been a matter of what the military has been attempting to do because if you can control the weather and you can make a storm come up on the beaches of whatever, you can disrupt your enemy. I mean, you can understand how that is being done, but the mechanisms to do that is clearly indicating and involving chemicals that are toxic.
But what you put in the air comes down to the ground you breathe, it goes into the plants. We have talking about some of that in this program, laying out some of that. So if this is intriguing to you, and I think it would be get the entire program. So I’ll just do that as a way of setting it up here. So now a little bit of a resolve, Dr. Lee. There are two aspects of responding here. I want to touch on this segment’s not real long, so I have to kind of keep it short. But one, a policy perspective, you already kind of commented a little bit. The other is a health remediation or a precaution perspective. Now let’s start with the policy. I’m glad that states like Florida and Tennessee and you gave 24 states in total that are entertaining legislation to limit outlaw, the springing and the skies and so forth.
But I understand, and I don’t know how far it’s going to go, I’m glad the states are doing it, but I understand from being a former Pennsylvania House member here, that the federal government has in essence claimed jurisdiction over anything in the air. And there is general confusion as to who can dictate what’s in the air, who travels in the air and what they do in the air, as we saw with the recent drones over New Jersey and across the country and the Chinese spy balloon. So there’s another issue that’s taking place because the federal government, CIA military has been the ones doing this primarily. But all of this is involved. It’s a policy perspective. But here, this is a short one before we go into the medical part of it. Past administrations have denied that either such weather tampering is even happening. You’ve mentioned that under the Trump administration and under RFK that they are pushing to open this up a little bit. Just a brief comment about what people can do to encourage this further opening and exposure.
Lee Vliet:
Well, first of all, the EPA new director Lee Zeldin has at the federal level also come out strongly in against the chem trail and has already curtailed grants that were operating through the EPA to support the CHERA operations. So the EPA is working on it at the federal level. We need citizens to push, put pressure on their state legislators and their congressional legislators to ban it at the state level and the federal level. We need a multi-pronged approach.
Sam Rohrer:
Yes. Okay. And that’s great.
Lee Vliet:
So I think the policy is critical and we do finally have a presidential administration and people in terms of HHS and C-D-C, F-D-A, E-P-A, all the federal agencies that are working to stop the assault on our health.
Sam Rohrer:
Okay, and that’s excellent. Just leave it right there, ladies and gentlemen, there is a window. Now there is an openness where in the past it’s been denied. So again, go back and listen to this program again. But there are things that can be done and should be done that a couple of years ago wouldn’t have gone anywhere. Alright, let’s go here now on the medical side. What can wise, and I’m going to say God-fearing people do since stopping. What is taking place is not an immediate, it’s not going to stop tomorrow. There’s a process and because most likely our bodies are already under the influence of these chemicals because it’s been done for decades. So we’ve already breathed in a lot. It’s already found its way into our body. We’re eating some of the results of it. So what can be done? Is there any way to undo damage or to prevent further damage?
Lee Vliet:
Well, we have extensive resources for improving your health and resilience and overcoming some of these toxic inflammatory effects in the resources@truthforhealth.org. Both the seminars that I give every Tuesday night that are many of them are on these medical topics of improving your health, mitigating the damage from inflammation, from the chemicals in our environment, what nutraceuticals are appropriate to use, which ones you have to be careful about. And then we also have the treatment guides, both radiation vaccine injury, and many of the anti-inflammatory immune boosting responses and health benefits that we talk about in the Vaccine Injury Treatment guide apply to the same chemicals that are present in the geoengineering climate, weather warfare, chemical spraying. So the strategies have benefit across all of these different assaults on us. And I encourage people to go to geoengineering watch.org, look at the documentary on the dimming to understand how dangerous and life-threatening the blocking efforts to block the sun are, and also look at the consumer activism steps that are listed there and look at their programs and articles on the health effects and what you can do about it.
Go to the credible resources for your information on all of this, for the activist suggestions, for the help options, and then make your voice heard. God gives us a brain, God gives us a voice and he wants us to use it to stand against this evil assault on his gift of life. And all of your listeners can make a difference by speaking out writing letters, calling local representatives in the state legislature and their congressional representatives, and letting the Secretary of Health and Human Services, secretary Kennedy know that you support his efforts. You want him to take steps on these chem trails, okay? We need to be vocal about it because our lives are at stake in the lives of our children and life on the planet.
Sam Rohrer:
Alright, and Dr. Lee, I think that’s great. We’re just about at the end, ladies and gentlemen. Can I just suggest that what Dr. Lee has said and go back again, all the information that was given, go back and listen to that again, but to a large extent, resisting evil, resisting the devil is what we are supposed to do. The devil is behind all this. Why? Well, because he’s against everything and all about God’s plan, which is life and joy and health. We know we’re under the curse of sin. We know that we’re going to have issues, but there’s an active effort underway by him and these things are a part of it. And we should resist that to some degree. We can do some things, some degree we can’t, but we must do what we can’t. That’s part of our obligation as being salt and light. Dr. Lee Vliet thank you so much again for being with me again, her website, truth for health.org, and a lot of information there. And ladies and gentlemen, be with us tomorrow and I’ll see you again with my own family physician on Wednesday, the Lord willing.
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